The FDA and drug companies: Must read

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I still can't understand where the moderators are on threads like these that serve no other purpose other than promoting a certain individual's political and social agenda. Unfortunately, when an individual poster is allowed, or really enabled, to threaten and intimidate others either through outright stated personal threats as with you or, as she did with me, rounding up her posse to encourage five or more members to collaborate on banning those she doesn't agree with, it affects all of BCO. Just extremely unfortunate for all of us, I'm sorry to say, to allow so much control to one individual.

Anonymous

"Drawing on more than thirty years' worth of scientific research, Dr. Michael T. Murray has assembled irrefutable evidence that the pharmaceutical treatments for the most common diseases that plague our society are often ineffective and result in serious, widespread side effects -- the existence of which is frequently hidden from the public.

What the Drug Companies Won't Tell You and Your Doctor Doesn't Know" offers a close look at the way that the American healthcare system has evolved in the last fifty years and examines the roles of the FDA, the pharmaceutical monopolies, and the medical community in producing what has become a failing healthcare system with little accountability. Dr. Murray illustrates how a nationwide dependence on pills has hobbled health in America and resulted in a national wellness epidemic as lifestyle, ignorance, and politics collide in our medicine cabinets"

http://www.amazon.com/dp/1416549390/ref=asc_df_14165493901921150?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&tag=pg-1583-07-20&linkCode=asn&creative=395097&creativeASIN=1416549390

Kaara

Maud:  I tell you, it amazes me that people haven't figured it out yet that our system of dispensing drugs is so harmful.  How can anyone look around these days and not believe that people are being drugged to the point of becoming dangerous to themselves and others.

It will be difficult to find a cure for any disease when the simple taking of a pill or an infusion can mask the symptoms, and keep the patient alive for a little longer.  I don't have the answer. 

Anonymous

Kaara, awareness, ignorance in this day and age is not a valid excuse anymore.  It's everyone's responsibility to take charge of their own health, maybe that's how we'll get some kind of respect when we have to visit allopathic physicians.  Confronting them in their ways may be the first step. This is difficult, because they love the control that comes into play in a doctor/patient relationship. Basically, what I'm saying is educating them....lol

I told my onco Tamox is NOT working for me; he counter offers Zoladex injections, then AIs.  I tell him, I'll get back to you on this one. I get back to him after researching on the subject and tell him: This is not an option for me, oophorectomy maybe.... Right now, I'm waiting for brain MRI end of March plus three more to follow to rule out metastases.  Until then, still taking Tamox, but have started DIM and will be adding other goodies to my protocol.  I spend hours and hours searching, that's the price I'm willing to pay.

kingjr66

Maud:  I like your post, the responsibility must start with yourself and letting your doctors know that you are in control, not them.  I am NOT taking any hormone therapy.  I no longer have any doctor push pills on me unless I know the facts and all SE.  I'm not a health nut but I am very serious regarding my health and find alternatives and research, research, research.........

Anonymous

To our health Kingjr ! I like your tag line 'the mind has tremendous healing power' let's never forget 

thenewme

Oh brother.... "This post has been removed by the Community."  Here we go again.

So much for discussion. 

Anonymous

kaara, kingjr and maud,

Good articles and comments!

A large part of the dependance on drugs is the huge focus of ads on TV, radio and internet. We are bombarded by propaganda making us think that it isn't ok to have emotions that are normal. We should feel happy all the time. We should be like 20 year olds when it comes to sex (Cialis) we shouldn't suffer with stomach problems if we overeat spicy or deep fried junk, so take a pill and keep eating. On it goes. Remember when cigarette ads were on TV all the time? At some point in the not too distant future I can see Big Pharma ads disappearing. At that point, we'll all wonder why we were so duped. Or doped

As Maud said, we have to take responsibility for our health. Research is so available now.  The problem with modern drugs is - you get a quick fix. But the problems remain masked, only to return with a vengenance. This is what modern medicine doesn't address - big pharma likes the fast cash. Natural supplements are not always the 'fix' either, but they at least do not leave you with debilitating illnesses and side effects. The natural alternative medicine world is not an instant remedy and some people don't like to have to wait for results, but remember - the body likes homeostatis and will try to balance itself with the proper treatment & time. 

People have been sold a bill of goods about pharma & docs go along with it because the bottom line is MONEY. Plus, a lot of docs are ignorant of natural healing herbal supplements because they don't learn anything about it in medical school. "Do no harm" oath that doctors take has lost its meaning.  

tucker

Anonymous

Tucker, EXACTLY !!

I am in so much pain right now and was wondering what's up with this - just realized I ran out of Boswelia a few days ago, it works miracles ! I need to run and get another bottle and trash the Advil which does absolutely nothing for me

"The body likes homeostatis and will try to balance itself with the proper treatment & time" so wise Tucker 

Anonymous

Maud,

Can you get a natural enzyme in the States called serrapeptase? It's wonderful for pain, and is OTC in Canada. If you have stomach ulcers or GI problems it's probably not for you. Otherwise there are no se's. Except absence of pain   It's sold all over in Canada. It's made a huge difference in my activity level.

The Advil did a lot for me. It trashed my kidneys for the years I was taking it and Tylenol for fibromyalgia. 

Ah yes, me the wise one, ha. I spelled homeostasis wrong...chemo brain

tucker

Kaara

It pays to do research on any kind of meds before taking them..supplements or prescription and even over the counter pain meds.  I went to my eye doc yesterday and found out that my macular degeneration is advancing and I have to see a retina specialist.  This was the last thing I was thinking about since bc, but I knew I had an eye problem.  Fortunately there are treatments, not pleasant, but if they work to keep me from going blind, I'll do them.

 I was planning to start taking an asprin a day because it said that it was good for preventing bc recurrence; however, after reading on my MD site last night, if I take asprin, I could have a retinal hemmorrage, so that's off my list, along with any kind of blood thinners which fortunately I don't need.  Now every med must be checked and cross checked, but the good news is that the diet and supplement program I am following is also good for my MD, so I have very little tweaking to do.

tuckertwo:  I agree on the TV ads.  When drugs started getting advertised on TV, it was the beginning of the end for any control.  Now patients are demanding that they be given this or that drug and the doctors go along with it. 

Anonymous

Tucker, I once got digestive enzymes with serrapeptase in them, but did not know it was good for pain, you have fibro too hein  Anything natural that can help, I'll take, thanks for the tip !  My chemo brain never noticed your chemo brain's mistake Lol

LOVE your tagline  

Kaara, I'm so sorry about your eye condition and thank God you're doing your homework, retinal hemmorrage sounds scary

Did you ever come across this site ?  http://www.macular.org/nutrition/index.html 

Kaara

Maud:  Thanks...I'll check it out.

Anonymous

Maud, if you do get serrapeptase try to get 120,000 units. You can take up to 6 to start then taper off. They are amazing for pain relief.

tucker

leggo

About this serrapeptase, I called every health food store in the city and nobody has it. One larger store had it, but told me it was recalled about two years ago. Does anyone know why that might be?

kingjr66

Tucker:  like your post regarding TV ads.  Notice how they state "ask your doctor if such and such is right for you" but don't even tell you what the drug is for.  It's like you have to go to your doctor and say "I just saw this ad and want to know if this is right for me".

And remember TV cigarette ad slogans (a lot with celebrities to boot)

Dorel - taste me taste me, come on and taste me

Winston - tastes like a cigarette should - most disturbing one was with the Flinstones stating "you know I never smoke nothing else".  great inspiration for the kids.  How about, yeah me and my winstons got a good thing going

L&M - just what the doctor ordered

Virginia Slims - you've come a long way baby

Marlboro - come to marlboro country, come to where the flavor is (and the hunky marlboro man)

Camel - I'd walk a mile for a camel - just what the doctor ordered - for digestive sake, smoke camels (for you granny)

Chesterfield - blow some my way

Philip Morris - call for Philip Morrissssssssss (with the little munchin guy)

Newport - cool and refreshing as a summers breeze

Tareyton - the taste worth fighting for - this one had a lot of macho men celebrities

Here's to top it off, all the informercials from celebrities John Wayne, Yul Brenner, Sammy Davis Jr, James Arness, etc. all hocking that cigarette smoking is bad for you, all after they died of lung cancer or throat cancer.

Pretty soon celebrities (actually already has stated) will be hocking the drugs supposed to be good for you thinking that if he/she uses it then it must be good for me. Why is the public so hyped on celebrity advice, what makes them the experts.  One comes to mind is Sally Field for the bone density drug.  I thought I just saw something in the news about this drug.  Can't put my finger on it right now but will google and see what it was. 

Kaara

kingir66:  Good analogy and right on!  You would think we would have learned our lesson with the cigarette ads, but no, now we have drug ads.  Imagine the money that changed hands in Washington to get that approved!

kingjr66

you are so right.  What's wrong with this???  Are celebrities that hard up, floundering careers????

And what's up the the beer commercials that have warning to drink and drive responsibly.  How could they even promote or use this phrase in their commercial when drinking and driving is illegal.

Anonymous

Thanks Tucker !  googling right now and getting lost again....

I'm with you Kingjr 

The Failed War on Cancer  

"Virtually every significant effort to investigate and validate alternative and innovative
methods of cancer prevention and treatment has been buried by the National Cancer
Institutes and the American Cancer Society. The fixation on chemotherapy and radiation
therapy has doomed all efforts to cure this deadly disease." - Frank Wiewel, former
Chairman, Pharmacological and Biological Treatments Committee, Office of Alternative
Medicine, National Institutes of Health, and Founder, People Against Cancer"

"For much of history, the cancer war has been fighting the wrong battles, with the wrong
weapons, against the wrong enemies. The campaign targeted the disease and left off the
table the things that caused it. The result is appalling - over 10 million preventable cancer
deaths over the past thirty years. This has been no accident. The official cancer effort was
directed by leaders of industries that generated a host of cancer-causing materials and
products. Their economic interest lay in making the disease less deadly but never in
preventing it altogether. This is the story of a major public health effort diverted and
distorted for private gain, at the cost of million of lives."- Devra Lee Davis, member
National Academy of Sciences, The Secret History of the War on Cancer"

Dr. Ian MacDonald, internationally known cancer surgeon: the massive educational, diagnostic and therapeutic attack on mammary carcinoma of the past two decades has failed to alter rates of incidence and mortality of this most frequent malignant neoplasm in female patients. Reports on the therapy of mammary cancer in the surgical literature often lack significance through selected samples of small size and the lack of statistical validation." When the statistical errors are accounted for, he added, the corrected data "lend little if any support to the case for 'early' diagnosis.

Dr. Dean Burk, serving as head of the Cytochemistry Division of he NCI, addressed a letter to his boss Dr. Rauscher, which stated, "I submit that a program f FDA-approved [chemotherapy] compounds that yield only five-to-ten percent effectiveness' can scarcely be described as 'excellent,' the more so since it represents the otal production of a 30-year effort on the part of all of us in the cancer-therapy field. Even hat five-to-ten percent effectiveness," he adds, "is suspect, possibly being more than offset in the majority of patients who do not benefit from chemotherapy) by shorter survival and ower quality of remaining life occasioned by the (widely acknowledged) great toxicity of early all approved chemotherapies, most of which, are capable of causing cancer in their wn right.

In a exhaustive review of cancer therapy entitled Chemotherapy Heals Cancer and the World is Flat, author Lothar Hirneise states, “Sooner or later the use of chemotherapy will go down in history as medical malpractice, and it is certainly a medical error today to use it and the sole means of treating breast cancer, coloectal cancer, prostate cancer, pancreatic cancer or lung cancer.” 

WOW !!!!!

More at  http://www.peopleagainstcancer.com/pdfs/news/20080916n2.pdf  

Ang7

I think most people know that drinking and driving is illegal.  The message I get from those commercials is to be a responsible drinker and have a responsible driver.  Not necessarily the same person.

Anonymous

gracie,

You must live in the US, I gather, because of the difficulty of getting serrapeptase?  It is widely used in Canada, is Health Canada approved, doctors use it. That's the FDA again - that's why you can't find it in the US. Recalled because it works! You can google some sites such as vitamin shoppe; they are many online stores you can get it from and have it shipped. A friend of mine from the states stocks up on it when she visits me here in Canada.

I just took one this a.m. for my sore back and 10 mins later, no pain. No se's. If you need more help/info let me know!

tucker

Anonymous

ok. I have some info from the bottle of serrapeptase. The Miracle Enzyme, by enerex - www.Enerex.ca  They may be able to explain how the enzyme works and how to buy it.

tucker

Kaara

Ang7:  I think a better message would be "Don't drink and drive...period!"  The other purposely leaves it up to individual interpretation.  Almost everyone I know drinks and then drives their car....I don't.  If I go out for an evening and I'm the driver, I make a conscious decision to not drink, and I make sure that everyone knows it.  

leggo

Thanks tucker. I'm in Canada actually and couldn't find it. Thanks for supplying the brand name.

leggo

I thought this was hilarious!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0q4oibfs9g

Anonymous

Maud,

Really interesting stuff you posted - thanks!  I am going to read more on their website tonight. I think there is a growing movement against drug companies and their massive campaign to get everyone on some kind of prescription.

tucker

Anonymous

Hi ladies,  GMO foods anyone?  Read about how hormones and GMO altered foods can cause breast cancer, and how you can learn what to avoid. Monsanto putting small farmers out of business.....

http://alsearsmd.com/freebonus/frankenfoods/naturalnews.html

tucker

Anonymous

Hi, been on vacation but didn't go anywhere, just not here for awhile.

Am reading a book on MSM which is what DMSO breaks down to when taken or applied.  That was also pulled by the FDA, all the trials.  Good for pain, and I am using it for opening cells to get antibacterial resources inside.  MSM is used by the Cancer Institute.  Will write more later, but just mentioning yet another one that bit the dust.  Hubby was at a safety meeting a month ago, they said that DMSO causes cancer.  OMG is all I can say, and yes, of courseI will be researching this one, but taking it with a grain of salt too.  Does anyone have viable links to share before I begin my own search?  Thanks.

Anonymous

Essa,

We were able to buy DMSO when in Calif but had to go to a health food store or vet supply/feed supply store. It was ok'd for use on animals. Did the FDA ban that as well?

tucker

Kaara

I take MSM as a supplement, and get DMSO in my weekly infusion at the naturopath as part of my cancer additives.  It has helped the pain in my shoulder and neck.  The pain is almost gone.