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I'll second the new body works!
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This is from Wiki. It just sounded so romantic.
Chinese Hairpins[edit]
In addition to displaying the status of women hairpins were, and still are, an important symbol in Chinese culture. In ancient China, hairpins were used by both women and men.[2] There would commonly be a rite of passage when any girl reached fifteen years of age. Before fifteen they were just girls or children but at fifteen years old they could be treated as adults. This was called the “Hairpin initiation” or “笄禮”. Before the age of fifteen, girls did not use hairpins but rather wore their hair in braids. When they were over fifteen years old they were considered women and combed their hair into a bun, secured by hairpins. The symbolic meaning of this was that she could now enter into marriage. This was three years earlier than the males in that society who underwent a "hat ceremony" at the age of eighteen. Thus, hairpins played an important role in the rite of passage from child to woman. They were also connected closely with marriage. Hair has always been important in Chinese psychology. The Chinese call a married couple “結髮夫妻”, which means the relationship between husband and wife is just like they tie their hair together. Clearly, the matrimonial ceremony always focused a great deal on the hair of the two sexes and hairpins played a very important role in the lives of women in classical Chinese society.
At the time of an engagement, the fiancée took a hairpin from her hair and gave it to her fiancé as a pledge. This was a reversal of the Western tradition of the potential groom presenting his betrothed with a ring. After the wedding ceremony the husband put the hairpin back into his new wife’s hair. Some Chinese couples used an exchange of a lock of hair as a pledge, while others broke a hairpin into two parts. Each of the betrothed took one part. When they met again in the future they could put the two halves together again as proof of their identities and as a symbol of their reunion.
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thanks for posting Eyeore, fits him almost perfectly.
I'm with Ya Mags. When I went to bed last night I asked Spookie why, just because it CAN hurt, does it need to? I got a nose lick, and that helped.
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wjoo, thanks well my sister is having still a hard time with Se,
I am hoping soon it ll end and her recovery can start. Wow thanks I miss your post and now I read and it's lovely you update me too, I am having difficulty keeping up these days. I am today relaxing cuz that Vegas trip was great but exhausted lol and unplanned. Love you all ll post later
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Have fun in Vegas Enerva!
Smarty-thanks for asking about DD, she's back to her normal sassy sweet self.
Mags-I've been having shoulder issues too, but I can't tell if it is bone or muscular pain. I think it is muscle, it hurts worse at night and it has been harder and harder to get sleep because of it. I'm gonna ask RO about this next week...wondering if this is from radiation or mx.
I got my sleeve, glove and I broke down and got bras and forms. I picked it all up today and I'm wearing the sleeve and form. I have to say that the forms feel very natural and look natural too. Little DD said that I look the way I used to look lol, it was sweet. I have mixed feelings about the forms, but mostly feel good about it.
Jwoo-you are so awesome in your posts!
Blondie-sorry about food stamps-can you file a repeal or whatever it is called?
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Okay.... didn't anyone ever hear of "Bobby-pins?" I used to roll my hair up every night, in "pin-curls" and stick a bobby-pin in each one, and then take them out every morning!
And then came "clippies".... but those hurt when you slept on them.... and we used little pink sponge-rollers, with the clip that held them in place!
And I used to run in and take them out real quick when my boy-friend.... DH .... would come by to pick me up.... Ha! I didn't want him to see me with my hair "up."
This was my Senior picture.... Haaaaaaah! Hair-style not much different than now.... except now it is "higher"... We ALL used bobby-pins every night! I borrowed my girl-friend Anna's sweater, because she had pretty ones... with stitches around the sleeves....
STILL the SAME! Almost 60 years later. This is sooooooo funny! So much for staying "in style"..... At least I don't have on that same sweater! I just have more "necks" now....and the same make-up.
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I still use sponge rollers and do pin curls!
man- you were and are such a looker Chev! your hubby sure lucked out!
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Thank you JWOW! This was him in about 1956... We took those pictures in one of those little booths...
I met him at the Frosted Scotchman drive-in... In 1955.... . I drove in with my Dad's 51 Buick, and parked next to him... He looked over and said "Big car ya got there..!" And I looked over and said "I'm a big GIRL!" Ha, ha...! That is so corny.... So my gal-friends and I drove up to Inspiration point with him and his Buddy, and we showed each other our pictures in our wallets.... And that was the beginning of my "story..." Ha!
And I think he looked a lot like these guys....
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While I was in England, I did some shopping at CathKiddston. Al little too much. But, I found this perfect little handkerchief, and then when I got home, found this perfect little hand carved pin. I'd been trying to find just the right things to remind me of Kristine, and finally did.
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Chev- sweet story- and he was pretty dreamy!
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I never had enough hair, some of my friends used coke or beer cans to roll their hair
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Jwoo - what a beautiful scarf and pin! Perfect memento from your trip. I can't believe that post - you must have written things down. I also loved the shared photos.
Chevy - your photo reminds me of my Mom - same hair style. Quite the couple too. Love it that you have the old photos.
Mags/Sass spookie- wouldn't trading in for a new body be grand!
We went and saw Into The Woods, the new Disney film. I guess I spaced on it being a musical. It does not work for Deaf kids even with a cochlear implant. Both my deaf girls said they liked it and my hearing daughter said it was too long! The scenery was great and nice little twist on the stories. I did think it could have been shorter more action. Some of the scenes were definitely not for kids - what's with the wolf (pedophile - creepy!), killing the elderly giant Grandmother and the Prince cheating??? Just a bit dark.
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Jwoo, you are amazing to include comments to everyone! And how thoughtful you are to remember FBB with those beautiful items. Hoping you find time to rest with your busy work schedule.
Chevy, what a cute couple you and DH are!
Enerva, thanks for the photos. Too bad you couldn't meet up with Chevy.
Mags, hoping your shoulder is feeling better soon.
Blondie, sending you hugs
Tang, good you got your supplies.
Sassy, thinking of you.
Rose, glad you got out with the kiddos.
Blessings, how are you doing?
Badger, congrats on the 5 years!
Spookie, how are you doing?
Sorry for all the other names I may have missed. Hope you're enjoying your weekend
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Sleep well everyone, I will wake up for You, long week but
life is good. Hugs to all!
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JWoo...my gosh what an amazing post!! Thank you for addressing my question. It's really shocking how many of us didn't get offered mental health care. That's interesting that a nurse called from your medical insurance co. asking if you wanted them to navigate your care. We've all had different experiences it seems. Different resources offered to us. I'm still getting over this flu/cold and still have a housefull of people here. They leave NewYears Day. After all 7 of them shower in the morning, it's almost lunch. I find it amazing that they ever make it out the door each day. Found out today I have a water leak in the main pipe to my house. My front lawn is squishy from all the water leaking out. I'll get it fixed next Friday after everyone leaves. They need to turn the water off to my house while they work on it? Can't do that with 7 people each taking showers!! I hope everyone had a nice holiday. I need to catch up. Hugs to all....(cute pics Chevy)
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oh no. Paws, a water leak is not so good! Hope you feel better soon, sending you healing hugs!
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Thanks 2nd. Not looking forward to seeing that water bill
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Just peaking in from my couch...I used to watch Burn Notice, ages ago, but can't get into it tonight so decided to check ya'll out. Bobbie pins & clippies...I still have some from my mom..we used them as little kids & can't part w/them! As for curlers...I was always lucky (or cursed) w/curly hair :-)
Pawprint...7 extra people...you're a saint! We had a Thanksgiving like that once and ended up blowing fuses thanks to 2 families' 36 ft motorhomes & 7 teenagers playing video games in all 3 places. I think you need a collection plate for your water bill...I'd be a little freaked out
Right now I'm a little bummed that I left a huge Costco tin of Belgian chocolate cookies at our DD's house. Guess it's a good thing
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Hi gals! Morning Ronnie Kay! See, I'm going to go right on talking to you, like I remember you posted or something... Looks like you have a little kiddle in that picture? And sounds like you had BC in 2009 and then again in 2012? WTH???? I'm just sorry.... Are you okay now?
Yes Paws.... All I can say is OMD!!!!!!!! In the same HOUSE? ALL at ONCE? I'd get them a room somewhere.....or several..... Ha! And you have 5 days to go yet.... with a water LEAK? I would call in the National Guard. You need help here. Do you know these people pretty well? Man, that is tough... Make them limit their showers to every other day. They don't need to be THAT clean... They probably caused that damn leak! All that water being used.... Call the Police!
We could get Phyllidink to summon the authorities... she always had them at her house...
We might get out doors today..... We'll see how cold it is out. I have those little masks I can wear.... Seems like COLD weather is not good for older women with Asthma......I'll just wear them out to the garage, and hold my hand over my face when we go into the store.... I mean Walmart!
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See, I had to post that, so I could go back to see you other gals.... I should have just started a "write-mail" then I could flip back and forth...
(that's pole talk) and then copy and paste... But oh well!
So you thought my fingers were broke Spookers? Nope... just frozen! But it's 12 degrees out right now.... Almost up to freezing!
Enerva! You look good! You look so very young! And you have been through a lot, it looks like!
And that one picture... Were you at Caesar's Palace, at the Forum? Oh wait, it says Grand Canal Shoppes... Maybe at the Venetion? We need more pictures. ANYthing that reminds me of warmth and fun and stuff!
Spookie...Your friends dog has heart issues too? I can't imagine what a dog heart doctor would cost.... but we would do anything.... right?
I told my DD about my friends problems (which is her X mother-in-law).... with her Son's (which was Janie's X)...Pacemaker with de-fib, and her Husband not being able to walk, and then the older dog with heart problems....
SHE said "She should put them ALL down!" Now I'm sorry, but I just laughed out loud. Then we agreed, ....well maybe not the dog....
Sass.... I feel that way about shopping at Ross or Burlington... If it is pretty, and I don't have one, and if it is on sale, BUY it.
Mags, how much snow did you get? Glad the cold weather didn't hang around.
You need ALL those things replaced? WTH? Are you falling apart? Can you do just one thing at a time? I don't know about that replacement stuff. MAN, just one broken hip and rod/screws nearly did ME in.... I can't imaging going through that with all those joints of yours! I'm sorry....
Sass, that article you posted about Chinese hairpins was GREAT! I had never heard that before!
Enerva.... sorry about your Sister.... You just need to sleep awhile...
Morning Tang... Glad you are getting used to your forms.... And your cute DD said that! That is sweet!
Rosie... I had that tiny picture in a little glass holder, along with the going-steady ring he gave me, and a little pin... with some little ear-rings he gave me... I scanned it, and it came out big enough to see... Ha!
Your Daughter's doing okay! I can't imagine not hearing, even with aids...
I had mine adjusted, and now I have to take them out sometimes, because things are so LOUD! I have heard of the cochlear implants... do they work alright though? For them?
Okay, and the Wolf stuff? Sometimes I think that stuff is added just for the adults... cause it ain't for the kids.... that's for sure. Maybe the kids know it's just make-believe.... and don't pay any attention to it all?
2222222222! You doing okay? You sound tired... or exhausted.... or both! How's the family?
Okay... I think I got everybody... don't tell me if I didn't.....
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good morning ladies. Looks like we all survived another busy Christmas. Yes ! Feeling stronger everyday but back pain has returned every since hosputsl visit. Back on pain meds. Yuck. Double edge sword. Helps tremendously for pain relief but then I just sleep. When oh when will some kind of normal life come back. And no not this crsppy pain being accepted as normal.
Rosevalley - so you still remember black and white tv. Wow. I can't remember what happened yesterday unless i take notes.
Luvmygoats / thanks for the mint uses ideas.
Chevy - was 8 degrees. Oh my. Both of your "senior" pics were gorgeous. How is dh's new med working for him ? That was a super sweet card you made him.
Susan - think bing of you. Hope you are lurking occasionally.
Hi1 - no treat baking for you ? Spinach salad? No wonder you are healthy enough to be out playing golf everywhere. You go girl.
Mags / Christmas Adam lol. Gotta remember that. Yes I 2nd the notion if a new body as long as it was hotter not scarier.
Enerva - hope Denver has been fun. Love you pic at the Harley Davidson store. Looks like a kid coming out of a candy store.
2nd - Shame on you scaring us like that with the break thing. Took me a couple of reads to get it. Whew. Don't leave us. I really like you.
SAS - no ban please. We need you. Thanks again for starting this thread and keeping it going. I love it.
Jwoo - had to put up Christmas tree whether I felt like it or not. Kids needs gotta come first over mommy whining. I can cry all I want after they go to bed.
Smarty - hope you are loving the "girls"
Cami - howdy. Glad your back more often but still miss your daily updates.
Blondie / tge food stops thing sucks. Can't catch a break can you ? Will twin son help with food or other finances since he is working ? Has it really been 5 months off chemo for you ? Glad shingles are gone now just get rid of the nerve pain huh.
Hoping everyone had a pain free day. Thankful for all you wonderful ladies.
Hootie hoo
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Smarrty and Blondie send me your State, county and zip by PM. Smarrty while I'm looking for your SIL I'm going to also look for Blondies resources.If you could also send specific goal/need for funds
Do you want me to post back to you by PM or here on the board
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I'm going to start listing Foundations with my comment about them:
http://www.healthwellfoundation.org/
Healthwell F. initially helped with certain meds. They have expanded their mission. Their charity navigator rating is 3:4 very good. Their web site isn't easy to navigate. Use tool bar at top and at bottom. In Novemeber this year 2014, they launched a new program that expanded what they would fund. It's under Emergency Relief Fund. That particular page is difficult to find where to go to next. Best to locate directions from tool bar of main Healthwell's page. I think the simplist thing to do is call them after looking at the site if your confused with what they offer
The HealthWell FoundationP.O. Box 4133
Gaithersburg, MD 20885-4133
grants@healthwellfoundation.org
(800) 675-8416 Phone
(800) 282-7692 Fax9:00 am to 5:00 pm Monday through Friday Eastern Time---------------------------------------------------------
Smarrty this is going to give you a route to research, but again it will take patience. At Northwestern University is a clinic dedicated to fertility of cancer patients. It's called "The Oncofertility Consortium ,represents a nationwide, interdisciplinary, and interprofessional network of medical specialists, scientists, and scholars who are exploring the relationships between health, disease, survivorship and fertility preservation in young cancer patients.".(statement from the about us page)
I want you to study the flow chart about what OC does on the 'about us' page (first link below).. When you study the chart, you will see that the intervention of helping with fertility stops at preservation. It alludes to the family. What it doesn't say is that it helps with IN Vitro. Study the site enough that you have a sense of what they do. Then contact Kristen Smith, she is the main coordinator. Her number is Fertline --18667083378. Then after picking her brain call the men's line for Dr Brannigan 13126958146.
questions:
1.Do you offer IN Vitro fertilization to the CA survivors that you have stored patients eggs/sperm ?
If answer is yes--Yay If answer is no
2. Is anyone in the nationwide Consortium providing the service?
3. Is anyone in the Consortium doing and longitudinal studies on the outcomes of fertility through to childbirth and evaluation of long term morbidity ( disease/illness) and mortality (death) of the children?
Hope I can make this clear. It's very nice that they offer a means of saving the eggs and sperm. But if the next step of bringing a child to fruition isn't taken, then what's the point of what they are doing? Northwestern is involved b/c it is a multidiscipline scientific university. The flipside of the altruistic provision of the retrieval & storage service is their undergrads and grad students in medicine, bioengineering, lab, Medical Residents, and Fellows in all the related disciplines of the retrieval & storage process are learning how to do the procedures as part of their training. What's missing is what I wrote in question 3.
Now the question sounds awful, but it is research that SHOULD be done. If they aren't doing it, then keep talking about the scientific benefit. (see below about starting near home) You can start by calling Kristin Smith and asking for the names of involved universities near your SIL &DD. You can address the questions with Kristen and Brannigan, but if you loose the ear of Kristen and Brannigan. Keep calling other members in the consortium and ask the same questions. Your goal is to get someone to 'see' the necessity of this part of the CA puzzle.
If someone sees it as advantageous, I could see them establishing a study that would included patients like your SIL and DD. If this is done then the cost of the In Vitro, implantation sx, all follow up care during the course of the study would likely be free.
Now if this is clear, see who is in the Consortium that's closest to SIL &DD home b/c travel would be an issue, and start trying to convince them of the value of the study----------clear?????
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My mom put up her hair every night with bobby pins. She was pretty hot, I think.
Pepper, I want this body back.
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Smarrty, just when you think something doesn't exist here it is. I changed the keywords to "cash grants for In Vitro Fertilization"'. There's a slew. The keyword that brought them up was 'cash'. Gotta love the internethttp://www.payitforwardfertility.org/
http://attainfertility.com/article/ivf-cost-grants
cash grants for IVF
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thanks sass, I'll pass info to the kids.
I'm in the process of trying to catch my cat to take him to the vet. He came up on the bed this morning and peed! Also did that last night in my lap. So he's got blood in his urine and he won't let me catch him and put in the crate. Grrrr! I ended up tripping this morning trying to catch him and landed on my hands and knees. Not to far to fall but caught myself on my hands. Nothing seems to have torn but a little achy. If this cat has cost me my boobs, he's toast.
He's got an 8:30 pm appt. so have all day to get him into the crate.
Hope everyone has a better start to their day than I have so far.
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Smarrty, sorry, hope foobs okay. Use the keyword phrase when you get around to it. There are oodles out there. -
Hey Mags, nice pics? Is that you in the red swimsuit? Chevy...you are right, seals are dog mermaids, they even bark. PP, back pain is the worse, there just seems like no matter how you sit, stand, or lay down the pain is always there. I wish the doc could give you something that would help. Ronnie, thanks for the collection plate idea, I'll just have them leave credit cards
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I'm often asked why do I keep searching stuff. Well, the biggest reason is I keep learning stuff. Always have been a learning sponge. But this one's been extra special. Because of doing the search for Smarrty's SIL, I learned more than just the IVF stuff. I put keywords 'cash grants for personal needs for cancer patients'. Oodles of sites came up.
Some cautionaries---if someone asks for money, in order to receive money -- it's a scam.
Attempt verification through Charity Navigator(CN), but this isn't an absolute thing b/c a charity has to be in business for 5 years before they can be listed on CN.
Look for 501c3 designation.
Check out with BBB
Ask for address if it's a PO box, if they won't give it --it's a scam. Same with phone.
Don't sign a contract --it's a scam
Don't give any personal data until absolutely identified as a legit organization.
I'm sure others will pop in with other cautionaries.
I just found one that would have helped with my brain tumor.
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Smarty! I'm sorry.... Have the vet check for Addison's disease.... That's what Lacee had.... Yes, she would pee while laying down, like she didn't even know.... We tried so hard to help her... To fix her.... But after a week of IV fluids, antibiotics, she couldn't even walk.....
This had gone on for about 2-3 months.... weight loss, not wanting to walk as far as we used to, and I would carry her the rest of the way home.... I just wanted to hang onto her forever.... and I knew that someday I couldn't...... It is just so hard to say good-by.....
I hope your cat is alright! xoxoxox
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