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Okay.... got it! It was your MOM who wore the pants, and your Dad was scared of her.... I mean he didn't want to rock the boat! Same here! That's the way I used to be...Your Dad was actually the one who gave in....like me.
I KNEW what his family was capable of.... The TEMPERS those people had! I mean screaming and yelling happened all day! I didn't do that! Actually my folks were always fighting too.... mostly because of his drinking and other women... I just wanted to have my own family, and be NOTHING like the way I was raised, or doing the things HIS family did....like fight, and always talking LOUD!
Those people must have all been deaf! ... Okay.... Sass is telling you to behave and don't do drugs.... Weed is okay.... just not drugs....
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Oh Oh I forgot to tell u--I was at the front desk and my pants fell down to my ankles and I had depends on--I turned around and said welcome to my world and u get to share it. I picked up my pants and sat down.
Sas I agree with u but everything I take is for some damn thing that I have, when I started all this crap I was on 3 meds that's it now it just keeps on adding up and maybe Xanax once in a while----now what I'm on I didn't even count the pain meds or Xanax and sometimes I stop one or 2 and I always get caught cuz it comes out in my tests.
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the front desk reallyomg george is bitchin that michael hid the controls, he went to work, these kids get on my nerves...
it is 124 go away.
Jen love the pix nope only went to 1 football, never made it to my grandsons, still not feeling well.
HUGS ALL AROUND
BBL
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Thank you everyone for prayers.
Chevy, thanks for the video, pasta salad recipe and funny story
Sassy, appreciate the offer, difficult to do, then phone battery died.
In ER all day with Mom. Lots of blood taken, chest x-Ray, US and CT scan. Nothing conclusive. Admitted her for observation. Stayed to feed her for an hour (hadn't had anything to eat or drink for over 10 hours, only 1 small IV). With help she ate more than expected. Plan to get up early to take Dad out so we can feed her breakfast. Floor nurse was such a sweetheart.
Jwoo, thanks for sharing beautiful photo of you and your family!
Cami, I feel your embarrassment.
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Hey Blondie.
Oh 2nd I'm sorry for what's going on. It's such a sad time when we take care of our parents. (((HUGS)))
Oh I wasn't embarrassed at all, that's the sad part. And the room was filled.
Joey slept over at my DD1's home tonite, I wasn't in the mood--u have to have loads of patience with her husband he talks constanly about nothing or things he thinks no one else know and then when I really get fed up I debate him and I seem to know more. U have to be in the mood and I'm to tired and worn out for it and it's not like my DD and I visit cuz he never gives us a chance. Oh well I do have 1 good SIL so I should be happy.
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Well I have given up it's 1:15 am and I have tried the guest bedroom... now out in the livingroom... thrashing around. Can't get comfortable and can't sleep... joints hurt & a headache.. In short a normal night. Waiting until morning and trying to find anything to do - stir crazy. Funny all the posts.
My Mom and brothers live in Sarasota but she hasn't mentioned unusual amounts of rain. Then again she is whifty and can't remember what she had for lunch. Love all the photos. I used to like walking around my Mom's community because there were so many animals, turtles, birds, alligators and neat fish, lots of ponds. If it wasn't for the bugs and the humidity Florida would be cool to live in. I swell up when it's too hot. This is the hottest summer and the driest that we have had in Oregon in 14 years we have been here. Our family in CA is just roasting and not a drop of rain. Pitiful.
Blondie sorry you aren't feeling good. I haven't really felt good since all this BC BS started back in 2007. Instant chemical menopause and no sleep year after year after year. ugh. My left arm is all bloated.. sigh. I stopped wearing the sleeve or wrapping it. That kept me from sleeping too. What we have to put up with..OY! Thank you all for the amusing stories to read in the wee hours.
Good luck trying to get some zzzzs.
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So now I am getting requests from all these GUYS
on FB! One of them even posted this picture, from when we were
seniors...It's just so HARD being a tramp! No.... I
won't "friend" them.... they just missed out.... that's
all.I was so quiet and introverted when I was a
girl... but THAT thought sure disappeared!I only went out with 2 boys when I was in
high-school.... and I found out, even with all my attributes, that there was
only one thing they were interested in....ONE even slammed my head into the back window,
because he was rather drunk, and would not take NO for an answer... Then he REALLY got mad because my head broke his window. My girlfriend was in the front seat, crying.... It's a wonder me made it out alive. Then they took us home.... probably sobered up a bit...Bad
memories....I just hated that paper-bag they put over my
head!Meeting my DH was my life-saver....
Sass! That was aNOTHER head slam! Man, it's a wonder I can even rub two sticks together to make a fire....
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Cammi? Ah geez gals.... I TOLD you we can't take her ANYwhere! I talked to her about this.... um..... problem on the other thread.... the older woman's thread....
Which brings me to the question, WHY ARE WE ON THE OLDER WOMANS THREAD? I mean some of us ARE, but others are NOT.... yet! Oh well.... I'll continue....
Cammi, I TOLD you to wear a rope around your pants.... or suspenders.... or better yet, wear a long skirt..... oh wait.... never mind. Put suspenders on your thong, to hold it into place. That's what I do.... Depends are not cool..... wear a heavy duty pad.... or even a disposable diaper.... or is that what they are? And no-one noticed? Where WERE you when this happened? In the Forest somewhere? I just hope so.... I think I am embarrassed FOR you! You are such a loose woman!
Okay RoseValley! Where ARE you? In a valley of roses? That sounds so NICE! And I'm sorry for all your problems, and not sleeping! I was on Tamoxifen, and that caused the same thing!
Can you try sleeping at different times, like maybe early daytime, or even in a different place? Once when I was sooooo sick with pneumonia, I went outdoors with my pillows and slept in the swing..... It's like your mind just stays awake in the darkness.... but outdoors, it is just different.
Do you try and sleep with a fan on, or a radio or TV? I don't mean loud enough to blast you out of your socks, but just something else to listen to besides your brain.
Hi Sass, Blondie and 222222nd! We have to "fix" this Cammi, before she thinks of going out again!
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Lordy, Chevy,,,, how times change. today that guy would go to jail!!!!!!.Quiet day, windows open, fans on. A/c off. First time since spring.
Hi Rose, Hope your sleeping since you posted. Hated those 36-72 hours without sleep. Killers. Usually we are much more yakkity. But the weekends are kind of quiet. Which is good
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I know Sass.... My friend just kept saying the Lord's Prayer in the front seat..... My Dad wanted to find him and kill him....
He was a body-builder, and I had gone out with him before! And he had picked me up from work a few times, but THAT time, he must have been smoking something or he and his lame-brain friend must have been drinking....! My friend and I ran into them at the drive-in, and they asked us to join them.... and since I thought I KNEW him, we went...
But he became an animal.... Never saw him again.... someone else probably shot him!
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Chevy, you are an amazing woman as well as beautiful, kind hearted, funny... Ok, enough of that, your head won't fit thru the door!
Welcome Rose!
Seems quiet today.
Dad and I went to see Mom this morning to feed her breakfast, no moaning and crying, they must be relieving pain. She would wake up long enough to take a few bites then back to sleep. They have her legs on electric compression devices which seem to be working. Have to restrain arms, trying to remove cath and IV lead. Won't release her today as still no definitive dx. Hopefully tomorrow. Dad and I leaving for our dinner in a couple minutes, then out to feed Mom dinner.
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Chevyboy - that's amazing being sought after by folks from high school. Amazing.. hope it's not alarming. ;-) You all sure do have lots of energy!
Yes i did finally get some zzzzs. Yay! Absolutely gorgeous day the Rose City Portland Oregon. Unseasonably warm middle 80s in October??? We are still picking tomatoes off the vine! We are 5 hours from Canada - this kind of weather does not happen very often. I am enjoying the tremendously warm sunny weather. Sounds like most of you are from FL so sun is an everyday thing. Must be nice. The rains start here in November and last until May! Right now it's just beautiful.
2nd-time around - hope your Mom gets better and out of the facility. Blondie - hope you got some sleep.
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hi, just stopping by to say hi and share a picture
It's so cute lol
I am going back to my real job tmw, hope all goes well
Yes I like my part time better but I can't afford to lose my real paying job lol

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Hope everyone had a wonderful weekend n caught up in their sleep. Me i am taking medication for what is aling me. Nothing to do tomorrow.
Chevy i love that u r tramping around, they r lucky guys.
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Hey Owlettes. Welcome, Rosevalley. I'm a rose lover myself. I used to grow them when I gardened, nd my pup is named Rose. Glad you joined us, though I know we all wish we could get some sleep. I've been in bed for almost 3 hours, but the neuropathy in my feet is so bad it will keep me awake most of the night.
Cami, honey, I sure hope your puter gets fixed soon because it's just not the same without you. And I know that your nemesis misses you though she might not admit it.
Blondie, I can sympathize with the breathing stuff, haven't been able to catch my breath all day and get winded walking to the kitchen for coffee. Well, at least I can drink it again!
Sassy, I'm thankful you started this thread. Thanks for letting me poke my head in every once in a while.
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Mags, I had painful neuropathy in my feet last winter. The Taxol created havoc with them. I was worried that I would battle it forever. I would not say I am 100% confident that it is gone, BUT it is much improved. My last tortuous chemo tx was 12/1/13.
Rose, welcome, I maybe already said that, who knows...lol... My DD was in Portland Oregon today, running the Portland Marathon. We live in Idaho, I wanted you to know that we have 2 very active posters from Florida, the rest of us are spread out.
Cami, when you are with your talk alot SIL, just raise your hand and say in a firm voice "Heard it"... Not polite, but sometimes it is all you can do to get someone to STFU.
Jwoo/Jeni, beautiful photos, thanks for posting them. I am happy you heard from FiercecestBluebird DH. I need to send another card, saying thinking of you.
Hello to all.....
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Holeinone- We were in Portland taking my DD out to lunch and had one heck of a time trying to get across the river because the Hawthorn bridge was closed due to the marathon! Half the streets were blocked.. we drove all over! It was a gorgeous day in Portland; your DD must have had a blast. Lots of folks out.
Magdalane51- yep we grow gorgeous roses here, rhodies, camillias, irises and tulips and azaleas too. I live in the Willamette Valley and you can grow just about everything but citrus and desert type plants. The neuropathy in my feet only bothers me when my feet swell.. which is most everyday - joys from Taxol in 2007. I haven't found the cure for it, so I cant offer you suggestions. It keeps me up too.
Blondie- you are "taking medication for what's ailing me?" Did you mean sleep aides or pain meds? Still off treatment? Did your Granddaughter have her baby? Are you a Great Grandma? Hope you are getting some sleep.
I hope you all get zzzzs.
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Rose
No baby april.. yep took the pain meds n the sleep aides n medicine 4 the coghing n runninng nose n chest congestion . Yep still no treatment
HAPPY MONDAY
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Hi, I'm new. Had surgery last week. My bedtime used to be 3am but then I got a cat so now my bedtime is 1am, 3am, 5am, 7am, 9am. Got cat from SPCA a few months ago - she was so scrawny! Now she knows I'll throw food at her every time she bounces on my chest. I knew better but I needed the sleep.
Glad I found you!
WT
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)ol glad u found us 2
Good night hopefully
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Got up this morning to take the dog out to do his business and dang near froze this morning! Its colder than my MIL's heart here today!
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Ah geez 22222222222nd! WAIT... I tried to get in the
house, and my head wouldn't fit! DANG! Ha!Okay, this is just me, but I would rather your Mom stayed
in the Hospital, or somewhere like that, until she knows what is going on....
and isn't falling asleep like that.... Is it the meds?I don't think your Dad could take care of her at home....
or you.She sounds like she isn't in full control of herself
yet... and maybe tell them, SHE AIN'T GOIN' NOWHERE until we find out what is
wrong, and will she ever be able to function for herself!I think when your Dad keeps seeing her like this, it will
make it easier for him to understand that he can't do as much for her as THEY
can... I know it hurts.... both of you.... But I wouldn't want my Mom home, or
is she going to a nursing home? It sounds like they have her sedated enough so
she isn't in control at all now....?They want to remove the catheter, so she can leave, but
that just means she has to wear diapers, or get up all the time...I did THAT with only a broken femur, and I wanted the
catheter put back IN! Ha!So I'm thinking of you.... Let us all know.... okay?
xoxoxoMorning Rose... You know, I really didn't know those
people when I SAW them every day... There were different "clicks" and some
were just way too good for us.... So they thought.And the guys were cute THEN, but MAN, WTH happened to
THEM? Ha, ha! I think Face book is just for something, but I don't know
what...I don't want any more friends from when I was younger, and
I am not lonely, and I see all my friends HERE....! Ha!Where are you from? No, my Daughter and her family live
in Florida! We only go there to visit! I'm a native of Denver.... live a block
away from where I grew up! I'm not much for change....
Okay.... gotcha.... Oregon! Sounds pretty where YOU are
too!Morning Enerva... cute picture!
Hi Blondie.... No tramping around today.... except to
Costco.... can't get into much mischief THERE.... I have a friend of my
Daughter's helping me look for another CAR... not a new one, and not from a
dealer. He has bought all his cars from finding them online, so he has been
looking and sending me emails a LOT!I trust HIM.... DH doesn't seem to interested in getting
ANYthing different, so he is leaving it to me, because I am DRIVING, and I am
tired of my stick-shift, and besides I kind of broke my door handle... sort
of... but my car is a 1999... and I am not getting any younger, and I am now in
charge, and so I WANT one! Ha, ha!Do any of you guys know about a Honda Civic Hybrid? I
don't... but we'll see.Morning Mags! Your pup is named Rosie? I LOVE that!
Yes, I miss that little kiddle Cammi! She KNOWS it.... that brat! She goes
around all sickly and getting tests, and dropping her drawers, just like some
one she isn't!I'm frustrated, and just want to "fix" her!
Hiho! You are "spread out?" Well so am I.... Hey,
that's a good one! About holding your hand up, and say "Heard it!" Better
than flipping her the bird and turning tail and walking away I guess.....Blondie.... hoping you are getting a little better... I
just hate when you are feeling puny....Oh? We have a new WhiteTiger? WOW!!! That means she is
a fighter girls.........And you got a new cat? Well you fit right IN here!
Glad to see YOU! Are you feeling okay?Ha,ha Mo2! "Colder than your MIL's heart! YES.... I
remember that! It's only 48 degrees out here now, but nicer than yesterday
morning!Are all the leaves turning where you are? They are HERE,
and it is just beautiful during the days.... Sunny and warm!So Spookie and Sass and Cammi must be asleep or off
somewhere... Cammi is probably figuring out how to keep her pants off the
floor... I think there is a song about that! -
Oh I'm around, have to go for fasting routine blood draw. Feeling grumpy and HUNGRY. I'm officially a freezing Floridian. It was 58 yesterday. Even the dogs were curled into balls with their noses covered. Is nice to have a/c off for a few days.
It's birthday month. GS#2 was Sat. Tomorrow is DH. Next week is DD. Then SPOOKIE. Lots of cake! SPOOKIE will have Frosty Paws.
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good morning, happy Monday

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been awake since 4 a.m. Ugggg
Envious of you that have cooler weather. We're having unseasonably hot weather, for the past couple of days, 100*+ scorching days. Problem is, people crank up the A/C, the going outside its a flat furnace. Either freezing or scorching, nothing in between.
About Mom, she's been in an Alzheimer's memory care assisted living home since July. They treat her and other residents we'll, my biggest complaint is the food: they tend to overlook meals (some have been dried out when I've been there) so Mom doesn't eat all the time. She's not picky, just that she was such a great cook she would never serve food like that. Have politely tried to explain that, they don't understand. I think she is sleeping so soundly now because she's finally not in pain. Nurses said she's not getting sleeping meds, primarily anti-b's (for UTI) and to drain fluid from her legs. I'm actually glad she's sleeping so much. With the electric compression devices on her legs and arms restrained (to prevent removal of cath and IV line), she's pretty cranky when she's awake. So that's why Dad and I are feeding her. Under normal circumstances she needs help, with restraints she's dependent on us. It appears she knows she's not in normal surroundings but no clue she's in the hospital. Whenever nurses have to touch her (check her legs, draw blood, slide her up because she's slipped down the bed), she screams, loudly. Doctors won't release her til they determine what's causing the swelling (she has known heart probs, could be kidneys or other organs). Once they determine cause, will act accordingly (provide appropriate meds). Dad doesn't provide care for her, but he's been told by nurses in the home she's needed to see a doctor for weeks and hasn't done it, probably wouldn't have gotten this bad. Finally got the reason out of him: he can't handle Mom alone. Was furious with him he didn't call me sooner to help (even a male nurse volunteered to help get Mom to be seen by a dr on his DAY OFF), Dad was hesitant to ask. Had a long talk with a bro last night, made him realize what a mess he made of her medical directive. Timing has been all wrong.
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Chevy.... it was only 37 here this morning. Looks like I'm gonna have to get my winter wardrobe out this coming weekend and change the curtains in the house to the winter ones! Might even have to add another blanket to the bed!
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Welcome White Tiger. We are 24/7. Mouthy and irreverent, but nice

Morning Blondie Have a pain free week and hope the breathing is better HUGS

Mo2, A couple of stories to give us a clue how bad your MIL is? I seriously disliked mine too! MIL treated my family wonderful, and treated me like dirt. It was very strange. Sorry, you are so cold. We are getting into open window season
Yay.Enerva , cute pic
have fun back at work.Chevy, "Tequilla makes me Crazy?"
2tttttttt call when you can

Morning spookie had the windows open for the last 24 hours and the door to screen enclosure. Dini & Shats love to be able and lay out there and come in when they want
Socks & fluffy robe time 
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You drink Tequila? Doesn't that make EVERYone crazy? I've never tried it, but it sounds fun!
Oh NO! Spookie is grumpy... WHAT are we going to do? You are freezing? You poor baby! I don't think I feel sorry for you..... Ha!
Okay 22222222nd! I remember that now...They still don't have a difinitive answer as to what her problems are? It sounds like when one thing goes hay-wire, then everything else tries to join in. Like Dominoes! With my Mom, it was congestive heart failure, but she drove herself to her Doc's for a check-up! So they decided they didn't like the looks of things, sent her over to Emergency.... then THEY took her by ambulance across the Bay to San Francisco.
THEN to make matters worse, they decided, Okay, lets do a quadruple by-pass on her, WITH a valve! Dad was frantic! She had been home doing just fine!
So they did the surgery, but a couple days later, they had to put in a pace-maker.... then she had a stroke! DAMN it was just a whole bunch of chit that happened! Finally her kidneys quit... they asked if we wanted to start dialysis.... couldn't do that to her.... she was out of it by this time.... It was just hell for her.... and for us, watching what happened!
They should have left her alone.... Never sent her over to emergency.... she was on meds for her CHF! She was 82....! Sometimes all the stuff they do, just don't help. My Dad didn't live much longer after he lost her....
It's just a heart-breaking situation to be in..... I'm sorry for you guys...... we're always here.
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Fluffy robe, oh yeah. Socks? not yet.
So the vampire sticks me, the vein rolls. Can't do other arm because LE. Have to go back tomorrow! Grrrrr
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