INSOMNIACS place to talk in the wee hours

Pawprint

Great idea Sas about gathering stuff up in baskets in case of quick exits from fires. Good morning Teka. Hahaha, omg....how the heck did Cami underline everything like that....so funny. And Chevy trying to figure out WTH she did. Always good for a laugh ) . Have a great day everyone. 

Anonymous

Pawprint

Oh hey 2nd, I just noticed you here. Yes, you are correct we are about 1/2 hr away from each other. I slept from 5am-8am. Hope you got some sleep as well. Enjoy your day. 

Anonymous

besides the baskets, would need to have the pet carriers handy.

Pawprint, you couldn't have gotten much sleep either. 

Badger enjoy the wedding!

Chevy, got the idea of using BCO as an area to chat from your chats with Cammi and others

sas-schatzi

Cami, each joint in the skeleton has a Range Of Motion (  ROM) that the joint can move through. There are multiple types of joints. Each joint type is defined by what  the range of motion i.e minimal to 360 degrees. One thing in common to all joints, is when they aren't moved on a regular basis the tendons tighten up. When the tendons tighten up, the joint is limited in it's movement. When a joint is totally immobile, the accepted medical description is it"s frozen

Frozen shoulder can be a complication of any sx that the shoulder is not allowed to move through it's rotation. The debate re: immobilization of the shoulder for breast  & lymph sx is whether it's neccessary. My conclusion from research for my sx in 2009. was, that it's never been adequately studied. There was allot of surmising that it helped to prevent seromas with the tube in place. Also, that the tube was more secure b/c ROM activity would pull the tube out of place. Nice thoughts , but wasn't backed up by and scientific evidence

I wouldn't advise anyone else to do this, but within 12 hours of sx I was doing full ROM. Docs weren't happy, but just as I said the research didn't support the usual practice

Immobilization after breast surgery was  established  when Radical Mastectomy was first started in the 1880's or 1890's. Often things were done that seemed to be the right thing to do, not necessarily helpful or even good. As time progressed methods /treatments were changed. Shoulder immobilization hasn't been studied

My interest in it at BMX came from my experience as a 19y/o. Four wisdom teeth were pulled in the same day. My jaw froze b/c I didn't move it. Movement caused pain. Pain was less, with no movement. No one told me it should be moved, so, I didn't. TMJ joint problems ever since

Trigger finger- this link to Mayo Clinic is very good for explaining trigger finger.

 http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/trigger-finger/basics/definition/con-20043819

 

 

sas-schatzi

New thread--construction complete, but not seen under active topics. But hasn't been deleted. My hope is that it will remain intact until Melissa and the editorial board read it

https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/110/topic/821164?page=1#post_4020833

sas-schatzi

2nd , had to buy extra clothes  LOL b/c the baskets stayed packed for about 2-3 months. Had them in the living room in order of what was to be moved out first. It was an organized mess.

maddy, congratulations re:DD scholarships YAY.

Made the bones of a thread now must get in the mood to write.

Alyson

Hi all just popping I'm to say hi. Have bees reading but not writing lately. Have long list of things to do today before heading off to Prague, then England and then to Canada. Sitting on bed drinking a cup of tea - it's not yet 6 am. Have fun owlettes I will fly through when I can. 

Holeinone

Alyson, happy, safe travels. Check in when you can with the highlights...

sas-schatzi

Pawprint there is allot of stuff on the web re:your iron. But I think you need to ask your doc what diagnosis he has given you. He may not of told you a diagnosis, but in order to get insurance approval he had too. Otherwise it wouldn't be covered. Since the reasons are very different in origin and meaning. I seriously suggest you ask them directly. You could read volumes and have no answer. sassy

sas-schatzi

Alyson, have fun with the kids and grands L&H&P's sassy

Blessings2011

I had a shoulder reconstruction in 2001 (arthroscopically, thank goodness) - it was outpatient, and I got home at 3 pm.

At 4 pm the doorbell rang and in walked these delivery men with a ratty looking plastic chair with a robotic arm on it. I had to sit in the chair with my bandaged arm in the tray, and DH programmed it to move gently back and forth. 

I was 2 hours out of surgery and still under anesthesia and falling off the chair, so DH had to prop me up.

Every day I had to sit in that chair every few hours while it put my arm thru wider movements. It was a PITA, but today I have complete range of motion in that shoulder.

(Dang, it sucks to type with a metal brace on my finger! Perhaps I should rethink posting for a while.)

Flipping off all my sweet Owlettes! xoxoxo

Teka

Blessings2011

Teka

Anonymous

Blessings, ouch! Pretty manicure, btw.

Aly, enjoy your trip! Pretty new avatar, don't you look cute!

Teka

I love to listen to barred owls at night!

gardengumby

blessing. What kind of shoulder reconstruction did you have done arthroscopically?  Was it rotator cuff or bone spurs or what?  I'm trying my damndest to avoid shoulder replacement, but also know I have some hefty bone spurs... lookin' for info/help. 

Pawprint

Sas, thanks for checking out my iron stuff. The doctor listed diagnosis as Iron Deficiency Anemia. I've had the infusions before to help but it doesn't raise the levels much. Never had this until after BC....seems true for other conditions as well. I can blame it on the BC and the meds, or just getting older. Doc thinks I'm bleeding somewhere, but ran lots of tests and no source was found. The iron infusions help for awhile. I'm wondering if it's inflammation, going to ask for a C-Reactive protein blood test. I have a history of very high C-Reactive Protein. Seems like if inflammation is the root cause then giving me iron is dangerous. Just tired of being tired. 

Blessings2011

Thanks, 2TA! Color is called "Dreamer"... Cute pic re "Personal Trainer"!

Gardengumby - it started with a rotator cuff tear and a complete separation of one of the important muscles, plus a couple of bone spurs and a ton of free-floating debris. I'll have to dig up my records to see what else the doc did - he said it was a LOT. I was SO relieved not to have an open incision... Still, it took a good 9 months to recover enough to sleep on that side. I have three tiny scars: one on the front of my shoulder, one on the side, and one on the back. I went to a Sports Medicine Orthopedic surgeon - he was the doc for our University football team!

Anonymous

Chevyboy

Morning gals!  Such a beautiful day in the neighborhood! 

The sun is coming up, it's not snowing, nor raining, the birds are chirping, and the squirrels are sitting out on their fence, waiting for DH to take out his dish of scraps for them! 

Blessings, that is sort of a funny visual.... You sitting in that robotic chair, falling over from the anesthetic,  and your husband running for the pillows and tie-downs! 

Glad it all worked out.  I had Arthroscopic surgery not once, but twice, on both knees!  It was a torn medial meniscus in each one!  I somehow, (shut up Cammi) twisted my left knee, and it got so bad, that I could hardly WALK!  So they did the same thing... 3 holes, then put on this brace thing, and I made Thanksgiving Dinner the next day!  

But the 2nd one, I was cutting this huge rug, and squatted down, to cut it, with both my legs bent back, and I tore the other knee! 

No matter what Lil-shit and Cammi try and tell you, it had nothing to do with a pole!  Either time!   So my knees are fine...  ! 

This is not me, but I finally found a picture showing what NOT to do with your knees...   So don't try it... no matter what someone tells you!

Teka, such a darling little picture!  Yes.... that's us!

Okay, I see blue nails!  So I'm not the ONLY one that likes to wear pretty polish?  Ha!  Will that official titanium brace do the deed Blessings?  And no surgery or anything? 

22222222ndT...!  Yes, as a matter of fact, we DO need a personal trainer!

And this is MY actual personal trainer...

Morning LilPaws and Annie! 

Teka

Owlettes, rise and shine!

Chevy,

sas-schatzi

Morning Owlettess  hmm  ttess instead of tes. That makes use princess owls.

Chevy I got my magazine from HSUS--humane Society of the Unites States. There is an article about chickens and how smart they are. The peeps in INSIDE THE SHELL will peep to tell mom they are to cold. Inside the shell. They talk about all kinds of other things. Mom's teaching their peeps what food is good what's bad. The way they recognize people and remember if they were nice or mean.

Pawprint  your welcome. The Bone Marrow Bx that you asked about will help allot. Lot's of info in one study. Hope Allie Mae is comfortable.

Morning Teka, thank you for coffee. You peeps are beautiful. Look at all the colors/ I guess we've bred that out.

sas-schatzi

Chevy BTW Yummy guy on the bottom Muah

sas-schatzi

Blessings  how long do you need to take AI's. Both my thumb trigger fingers healed after about a year, once I stopped Aromasin. Not suggesting you stop. UGH I hate those drugs. Thanks for the other thing with Jellie

sas-schatzi

https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/110/topic/821164?page=1#idx_18

hope you visit sassy

Holeinone

Happy Sunday to all, 

We are a busy group as always, DutchChris, no worries on keeping up or commenting to all. No one can, we are an diverse group of yakkers. 

Badger, enjoy the brunch, fun weekend for you..

Pawprint, good luck with AnnieMae surgery....thx for asking about me, I am fine. 

Garden Gumpy, I also had shoulder surgery. They repaired tendons, cleaned up all the floating stuff, I think it's very common to saw off the end on the collar bone? Not sure if I have the correct bone, but they saw the end off of one of them to give you more range. I did get a frozen shoulder, but was able to get it back in shape with PT. 

2ndTimeMaddy, congrats to DD & you & DH. What a cool thing. Proud Mom is the best feeling. 

FierceoneBbird, are you safely off that damn high wire ? Let us know what's happening girl ! 

Zigpop, you still in the north forty, digging, pruning, creating a bounty of beauty ? 

Ohh, here is my amazing news. Sitting at the table Thurs. evening, eating spaghetti. I look out to our patio, and there is a deer. Very surprising..... We live in town. I thought it was a goat for a second, then I wondered if I was hallucinating....lol...yelled at DD & DH. We took photos, called the neighbors. Went outside. We are about a mile or less to the Snake River Canyon, they live down there. 

Looking at some other threads last night. Someone in our group is having a Bday this weekend.....

Waving hello to all, BBL

Smaarty

went to a class before the wedding. It was a stenciling class. This is what we made

here's the happy couple. I stitched the sign in front of them.

Smaarty