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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2016

    Yo!

    Surgery prep at 11, surgery at 1....no food after midnight. Just had tea and half an english muffin half an hour ago. Take toooo many meds in the a.m. to be on empty stomach. Shhhhhhh......don't tell anesthesia guy! ( I always eat a bit of something no sooner than 8 hours before a surgery thing)

    I asked FF last night if he had any worries for today. His only concern? "I'm worried about your recovery. Last time you kept whining about the wound oozing and making a big deal" . Sorry ladies - he's all mine! Stupid Fart Face.

    WildT - DS looked way tall in your pic. If he is 5' 5", you must be about 5'? Being little, I am always excited to meet someone my height. Better yet, someone shorter :)

    Eeyore ~ awwwe....hugging on DS! How old is he? Hawaii! Wow! Were you able to celebrate the Chinese Moon Festival? That sounds so magical!

    JunieB ~ Hope you can wear that brace more - gotta heal that hip. Anything to do with the guts is wicked scary to me. Hope the anti-bs kill all the bad stuff and your innards mend up fast! Will make sure to have a nice comfy recliner waiting for you in my pocket :)

    Gotta gets ready.....FF will be driving like a drunken teenager; fast and reckless. Texting, web surfing and eating too. Plus he will stop a minimum of 2 times on the way. He is a serial stopper.....made me late for the last surgery I had :(

    Happy Friday to All!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2016

    Loverly, Thanks for the much needed hug! Feeling a little better this AM.

    Shep, Yep, you guessed pretty close...I used to be 5' 1", now slightly shorter. It's so funny, I don't see myself as short, but everyone else notices. Well, except when I can't reach something in the grocery store and I'm either climbing the shelves or grabbing the nearest tall person. Oh how I wish I could come and take care of you while you recover! I would show FF how to treat a person recovering from surgery! I hope with your surgery prep you put a bell, or something annoying, next to your bed to get FF's attention when you need something. Show him who's boss! You must have a long drive if he has to stop along the way. I don't recall you saying how long the surgery is, or if you are staying in the hospital. Take care, Shep. My thoughts and heart are with you!!

  • queenmomcat
    queenmomcat Member Posts: 3,039
    edited September 2016

    Just a quick gallop through....

    JazzyJuneBug: isn't KnitPicks addictive, now? (Avid knitter over here, myself)

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited September 2016

    Darn it! Have not slept this hard for a long time. So sorry I am late for the pocket party. You are probably in the prep room now waiting to be wheeled in. My heart and prayers are with you. You must come out better the other side.

  • feelingfeline
    feelingfeline Member Posts: 5,664
    edited September 2016

    Mommy sorry to hear of your bereavement. May he rest in peace and rise in glory.

    Best wishes Shep hope you are recovering by the time you read this.

    Lover I teach web development and Information and Communication Technology. My reaction to the nose piercing would have split the screen, one word MUCUS!


  • feelingfeline
    feelingfeline Member Posts: 5,664
    edited September 2016

    PS I am an expert on mucus at the moment as despite DH's best efforts not to infect me I have caught his cold. Cannot imagine combining blowing nose with nose adornment AAAAAGH that's me running out of the room to sneeze.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited September 2016

    Morning afternoon Owlies, Hoping everyone that's had, bugs and booboo's and tx's are doing better.

    Smarrty, YAY another new baby--Benjamin. Hope all is fixed quickly with the uterine thing. How long was her water broken for? Most common cause for uterine infection with childbirth. There's a standard time to either induce or do a section after the water has broken, b/c it's such a usual thing.

    Shep getting trampled in your pocket, Loverly has her foot in my face.! Hope the dream docs are keeping their shirts on.

    Kathy, We got the whole family in the same hotel. YAY last 6 rooms Whew. It's a cross between a B&B and regular hotel. Looks very nice http://hollanderhotel.com/ Asked a friend to help me shop for a dress. It's a bit strange. She's the mom of one of DS's old girl friends. Sorry, DD getting stressed. I dislike weddings for that reason, but basically I'm on the periphery of this. Glad you are able to sit back now. :) When are DD'2 and family coming from Japan?

    Patty, kiss and make up was fun :) I knew it wouldn't be long. Me and the dogs have spoiled him for single guy living. He'll be good till he's not good.......then we go through the process again.

    Susieq, aww YAY two days in a row :) Hope you get some sleep tonight.

    Mommy sorry for the loss of your Stepdad's brother. Condolences

    Loverly, YES, kinda. All his clothes were clean as the wash had just been done. . It only took two nights being away and he called to come back. I don't have many rules, but he has to work by those rules. So, we will see if he really straightens out. I'll know by his actions in the next couple of weeks.

    Poor Mitsy, would she do better without the walks? My Brits would always find the stinkiest things to rub themselves in, earthworms were even worse than dead things. Last house we were in, the first thing we did was put in a wash tub to bath them. ........I got the Prozac for Shats, but haven't started it.

    What a hilarious pic response about wayward DD and nose piercing. Sure hope she doesn't do it. There are disaster infection type pics on the internet, they might dissuade her. BTW you hardly look old enough to be a Mom :) AND DD2 is beautiful That pic of that tattoed guy---UGLYCan you imagine who would marry that? Dysmorphic for sure.

    JUNIE, again CHIt. Let us know what PA says. Seems you are in a medical system that always has PA's seeing you after events. What's up with that? Chit again popping in and out. The brace?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2016

    still waiting in pre op. scheduled for one but pushed back to two. FF stopped for breakfast and gas on the way..... and got pulled over for speeding! only got a warning - professional courtesy ;) we were a half hour late... guess it's good OR is running late....

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited September 2016
  • Eeyore07
    Eeyore07 Member Posts: 113
    edited September 2016

    ShepK : why FF has to pull the professional courtesy card. Late for operation won't cut it? Guess man just won't own up.

    Sorry late for your pocket, but Hawaii is just at day break. Wish every procedure is smooth, we will hear from you soon.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited September 2016

    Lookie, YAY recovery sounds decent :)

    Tulip, So sorry, re: pain and neuropathy. Are you done with the chemo? If not review with NP. Glad she really paid attention to your concerns before continuing tx. Too often the concern isn't addressed, when perhaps an alternative was available. Have you tried a different AI? Gabapentin/Neurontin/lyrica? Hugging you right behind Loverly.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited September 2016

    Feline, I agree.. ewhwwwwweeeh, Boogers and steel......nope

  • Jazzygirl
    Jazzygirl Member Posts: 12,533
    edited September 2016
  • PattyPeppermint
    PattyPeppermint Member Posts: 11,162
    edited September 2016

    jazzy. Aww so sweet.

    Feeling good. Fever is completely gone. Migraines are getting fewer and back pain is GONE. !!! Trying to decide what fun me and dss can get Into this weekend while dh works. They have grown Into teenagers and I am trying g to figure out what we can do together. The days of playing at the park or chuck e cheese and all those other childish things are gone. Any suggestions ???

    Hootie hoo. Hugs all





  • Smaarty
    Smaarty Member Posts: 2,951
    edited September 2016

    Patty, movie? Any amusement parks around you? Shopping? Hah

  • kathindc
    kathindc Member Posts: 2,042
    edited September 2016

    Hi Sas, DD2 lives here in the city as well. DS lives in Japan. He is due, the last I heard, to come in the week before with the grandchildren. They will be here for close to two weeks. DDIL is a teacher so she won't be able to make it. Speaking of outfits, I've got to pull a suit out that I plan on wearing and see how it fits. A neighbor is a seamstress so hoping it will work. I hate buying fancy clothes.

    Sounds like things are perking along for Stephen's wedding. Great that the family will be together. Gives everyone more time to catch up on things.

    Smaarty, what a head of hair Benjamin has. All three of mine had "peach fuzz" - just enough to keep the glare from light to a minimum. He looks nice and healthy.

    Patty, glad you are posting with us again and that your back pain is gone. Hope the migraines vanish soon. Hmm, do the boys have a favorite place to eat other than fast food? Nice sit down lunch with each other could work.

    Shep, hope all went well for you. Saying prayers and keeping fingers crossed that you get relief from this. Sorry FF had to stress you beforehand with stopping for breakfast and then speeding. Have a friend whose husband was a volunteer firefighter. He was notorious for speeding and pulling the courtesy card. He did it in VA, they live in MD, he finally got an officer who wouldn't let him off. Did my heart good when I heard that. She loved to brag about it.

  • M0mmyof3
    M0mmyof3 Member Posts: 9,696
    edited September 2016

    Thanks for the condolences Wildtulip. Where in MN? Was born in NW WI.

    Thanks feeling and sas


  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited September 2016

    Oh waiting for postop- Shep

    .....................

    Went out to dinner and now back and sent Donnie on his way. Sounds like I have lot's of rules. But not really. Mon-Thurs he can do what he wants. Fri out to dinner and he can go out after. Sat and Sun after work are mine. That's it. Plus, a phone call that he's not coming home till late.

    Too much time together he makes me crazy. He has so much leeway, that when he messes up it is just so stupid.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited September 2016

    Dini has advanced from lizard hunter to Armadillo hunter. Two in the last couple of weeks, another within last few months. He guts them. I was there for one problem. It was kind of scary. Barking at the front. Not unusual, but then they went to the back door with great barking and aggressiveness. There was enough time from the barking at the front to the back that it could have been someone to be trying to go around back Donnie wasn't home.

    I opened the backdoor. Flurry of activity and all I see in the dark, is a tail. Then great growling and movement. Blood, awful, but wasn't human. Dogs called off. Responded very quickly considering. Shats went under the table. Dini took a few seconds longer. I was very proud of Dini's responsiveness considering he is a lab/pit mix. He responded very rapidly considering he was in the middle of a kill. Sounds gross, but Middle of the night with a creature trying to get in the door. I give him stars.

    Never heard of an Armadillo trying to get into a house. I tossed my worry aside. But with this last Armadillo kill Mon. I got busy.

    Health department sent me to>>HD epidemiology>>animal control>>fl fish and wildlife>>health dept>>another HD section that didn't call me back.

    Lived here since 1992, never saw an armadillo before this year? We finally put things together for the last two weeks when two neighbors said they put Dini back inside the gate. 10,000$ worth of fencing and he jumps it. Chit.

    Area totally built up. No forest land. So, why the increase in armadillo's ?

    I googled "What are they good for? They eat bugs. Basically, manicured lawns. Mines native with no irrigation. Something has changed. Adaptation to an unfriendly environment? They are suspect for carrying diseases, but no one I talked to was "into armadillos's" They are considered a nuisance critter that can be trapped and relocated, or killed.

    Anyone have a clue?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2016

    Mommy, I'm just West of Minneapolis. Except for college I've lived in the metro area all my life. I could do without the snow/cold, but can't take my kids away from their dad.

    Sas, I finished chemo a year ago. I then had radiation and was on Tamoxifen for 3 months. My MO quit end of Jan and my new MO changed me to Aromasin & Zolodex, plus Zometa IV's now too. The SE's were tolerable, until I started back to work 3 weeks ago. I'm just spending too much time on my feet and my body can't take it. I'm sorry about what you are going through with Donnie. Big hugs back at you!!

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited September 2016

    Okay, on a mission

    I have lots of phone numbers and have talked to many folks over time. Initially it was sharing of info b/c it is important to have a contact in case someone goes MIA. But it allowed me to call and vis versa

    What's more important is to think about talking to each other. Not just in troubled times, BUT just for fun.

    It can be sooooooooomuch fun. Hours of fun. Some want to keep anonymity. Okay, get that. But we loose enough contact with the real world b/c we can't talk our real stuff.

    Outside folks so interject platitudes that we know are false.

    Take a chance PM someone that you feel a special affinity for, and have a chat.

  • Jazzygirl
    Jazzygirl Member Posts: 12,533
    edited September 2016

    Sassy is so good about keeping in touch with people and especially when the go off line for awhile. BCO is a place where friendships develop and some result in outside conversation, visits, even vacations together. I can't get her that often being a self employed person who is super busy, but have developed a few deeper connections along the way. I have met one BCO sister who also lives in my city and she just PM-ed me the other day to check in to see how I am doing. Felt great!

    It is hard for anyone to understand how BCO can be a lifeline for so many women. Four years ago when I found this place, I was having one of the worst years of my life (and bc dx just topped it all off for me). There were women here who were just present with all my stuff without the need to control or judge it. We all know we don't need that, going through this is hard enough.

    Funny, I was talking to the friend visiting last weekend about something here on BCO, not necessarily cancer related, and she looked at me funny. I said cancer support group web sites are not just about talking about health issues, but can be a place to talk about many things related to us. Cancer is part of our story, not who we are.

  • kathindc
    kathindc Member Posts: 2,042
    edited September 2016

    Jazzy, your last paragraph hits the nail on the head! My hubby can't understand why I still visit the site. I now try to be clandestine about it.

  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited September 2016

    I think I'm closer to some people from here than to some friends in the same city.

    SAS, I know that armadillos can catch leporsy. I ate one once before I learned that little tidbit. I believe they're the only other animals who get it. Poor little things, they're harmless and are killed so easily.

    Shep, Hope your surgery went well and you have good drugs.

  • JunieB
    JunieB Member Posts: 1,023
    edited September 2016

    Queenie - I didn't know you are an avid knitter too. How awesome. Yes, KnitPicks has lots of great yarn.

    Shep - Been thinking of you all day. I hope the surgery went well and you are resting comfortably.

    Jazzy - Those bunnies in the glasses are so adorable. And yes, you are right. Trying to talk to anyone who hasn't experienced a cancer dx doesn't have a clue. I have tried to keep my dx under wraps around my apt. complex, but found out after my trip to ER on Monday that the very people I didn't want to know, actually do and like to gossip about it. I guess now that I know that they know it's kind of a relief. Shep recently posted a comeback on the "OMG-They found a cure for stupid" thread that I thought was/is priceless and plan on using myself if the opportunity ever arises.

    Sassy - Sorry to hear that Donnie is misbehaving. Good Dini, he was protecting his Mama.

    The PA's seem to be the answer here for filling the gap. Apparently there is a shortage of doctors. As I'd said before, my GI doc is booked out to December and one of her PA's until November. The PA I got to see on Thursday was awesome. She explained the importance of staying hydrated and eating enough fiber to maintain bulk in the stool, so it doesn't get into those pesky pockets in my colon. Of course my MO had to stop the Ibrance until I finish the antibiotics. I am so tired and with all the medical stuff & insomnia, I haven't had the energy to call my Sister or sew. I've done a small amount of knitting, just trying to keep up with the stuff around the apt.

    I am also wearing the hip brace. It is bulky & hot, but seems to make the hip feel more secure. So I'll stick with it.

    Refresh my memory, but who in your family is getting married?

    Kathindc - When is the wedding for your DD?

    Patty - So good to hear that your pain is better and you're up to doing fun stuff with your Kiddo's

    Feline - So your caught your DH's cold. Web design and all that computer stuff is cool. Wish my brain worked that way.

    Well I guess I'll say goodnight for now. Eyes are struggling to stay open.

  • Jazzygirl
    Jazzygirl Member Posts: 12,533
    edited September 2016

    Kathyindc- I will share some interesting parallels between two things I have gone through in life; the experience around a major loss of a family member and related grief process, and then when I got my cancer dx (and a whole lot of other bad things as mentioned previously). What I have noticed there seems to be a general time table on things like grief or recovery from cancer treatment by others, and have always found that to be very odd. I have never been one who appreciates being told how to feel about things by others or for how long.

    At age 32, I had an older brother who became ill with a rare lung disease and who passed at age 40. We were very close and it turned my world upside down, along with the rest of the family. It took me a long time (maybe the rest of my 30's) to really heal from that loss. With time and grief counseling, I found my way through and even to live life a bit more purposefully. There were comments during this period about that loss, getting on with things, over it, etc. I learned then that people were not interested in dealing with my pain for very long. With time, many of them were in similar situations with the loss of someone they cared about and later commented how they never understood what I was going through until it happened to them. We can just see that as either un-relatable to them or just lack of empathy for others suffering.

    With cancer treatment, I felt a lot of the same thing, except instead of it just being an emotional wound, there were the physical ones too. We end up with physical and emotional scars, some which the world will never see but that we live with. Never mind the longer term SEs. Recovering from cancer treatment takes years, it has for me. We are not the same after, just as you are not after the loss of a loved one. Forever changed, lives take on a different focus. But yet, there is a time table that seems to show up in these situations too. And again, I think that is odd.

    The reason we are all still here on BCO is that it meets a need we all have on some level. To have community with others who are living in the post treatment world. To help sisters newly diagnosed in the ways many here helped us. To be with those living with cancer. We are here because this is a place that provides us support without a time table. Coming here is so refreshing to me in a world that is filled with "aren't you done with that yet?"

    I appreciate all of you and thank you for being here too!


  • JunieB
    JunieB Member Posts: 1,023
    edited September 2016

    Jazzygirl - Very well put and ((((HUGS2YOU))))!

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited September 2016

    Tulip Thank you for the thoughts on Donnie. The thought putting him out this week as with each previous time is/was...he crossed the line of acceptability. I'm the comfortable one. He would have to go home to a single room apartment with no accoutrements. No warmth of anything.

    We women truly make a home. Guys have no clue, unless they either have decorators or wife/mom helping. The exception is gay guys. They have generally great taste. I totally love gays guys. They are so interesting to talk too and never hit on you. Great decorators and taste. But I diverge.---------------BUT I totally dislike Modern Family. So not like any gays I ever met. UGH. Did a divergence again.

    Tulip Contact Bride by PM. Talk about disability. You can start the process and stop it at any time. BUT the clock starts at the point of application. That's very important. I fought starting it for six months. It was a huge mistake. If I had started it when it was recommended, it would have saved money.

    You can still work on disability. There's a "Ticket to work" program. It protects you from workplace discrimination.

    You have no idea about outcome on the neuropathy. Please, start the process now. It means so much.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited September 2016

    Jazzy, so get your friend reacting strange. A dear cousin had BC now 20years ago(as my twin did and several relatives) , ML developed sarcoma of the Leg and was through chemo, then on hospice, then LIVED, then had more sarcoma with a recent amputation.

    I invited her here to BCO. She declined. But she is very supportive of my posts on FB . So we are of like mind. I'd like her to be here b/c she could find "whatever"

    Jazzy, I love your statement" Cancer is part of our story, not who we are". Within BCO we can find what we need. Unique to all other sites that I've seen

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited September 2016

    Wren, when I googled it about armadillos's and the connection came up with leprosy and several other thing's, That;s why I got on the health department tract. and kept following the calls.

    The one's that had a clue about the leprosy link, blew it off. UGH When case reports in Jacksonville had six reported cases.

    Not sure who brought up the rabies concern, but that propelled the next phone call, and the next, and the next. It was a learning experience.

    Dini is hot for the chase. One of the neighbors that ratted him out said he was coming up the street from the south. She called him and he came and she put him inside the gate.

    That was the same night I put Donnie out, I thought Donnie took Dini with him. Then we found the carcass of the Armadillo in front of the wall the next morning.

    The buzzards came in the afternoon, the children played. They disturbed the buzzards. The buzzards dragged it to a safer place to eat.

    Duh, that was for Queenie. Dramatic, but absolutely true.

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