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  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited December 2015

    This was a planned event..........they rented the SUV 4 days ago, pipe bombs sitting around the house, assault rifles that are illegally held, thousands of rounds of ammunition.

    He travelled all around in the middle east 2 years ago. Facts coming out hourly.

    Neighbors are coming forth that new something wasn't right, but didn't come forward b/c they didn't want to be termed racist.

    Yet our President says we need gun control...........Gun control would not have stopped this. Many laws in California were subverted. They have the strongest laws on gun control in the USA. These two radicalized Muslims broke the laws

    Listen to the Dana show on 96.5

    I think the bigger question we need to ask of all Muslims is to come forward and stop other Muslims from killing. That question was asked after Paris. A demonstration of muslims against violence. 30 showed up.

  • luvmygoats
    luvmygoats Member Posts: 2,942
    edited December 2015

    Coming out now they had contact with people on watch lists and they had searched online for ISIS literature.

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited December 2015

    You are right Mags.... And I remember someone had brought that up after one of the last shootings.... If just one person had a gun in that room, this might not have happened.... at least to this extent...

    Yes, it is the people.... the radical people who care about nothing....not even themselves. They have so much hate in them, and it must just take over. I just wish we could all feel safe.... but any different "noise" in a shopping center, just scares me half to death....

    I thought from the beginning, that since there were at least two, that it had to be terrorist related.... He must have just been waiting for the right time.... where he could do the most damage.... Yes.... it was planned.

  • Jazzygirl
    Jazzygirl Member Posts: 12,533
    edited December 2015

    Six month old baby left behind too. Just so damned sad.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited December 2015

    Yup Jazzy...................poor kid

  • Rosevalley
    Rosevalley Member Posts: 3,061
    edited December 2015

    Patty I hope you made it home. Morphine makes me puke. I know from puking on Monday my ribs are very sore and I was sore already from my fall on the cement last week. So I know repeat vomiting will make your sore and aggrevate the bone mets in your back. I hope you get to feeling better. Enough is enough isn't it!

    Goats- just got reglan and carafate - to add to prilosec. I can keep fluids down it's solid food. Just backing up. I disagree on the gun control. I do not think we should have assault rifles for sale to anyone in the public. Millitary and police only should have access. All the hunters, target shooters, bird shooters and all would have access to all the same amo and guns as before. Too easy for the wackos to get access to assault weapons and go on killing sprees - for what ever reason. If Adam Lampart 's Mom hadn't given him an assault weapon 18 little first graders would be alive today in Newton, Conn. Stupid Mother and she died with the guns she gave her son. Same stupid mother in Roseburg Oregon! She knew her son was emotionally unbalanced and had been in special needs schools all his life, suffered from depression and disconnect. So what does she do she buys him lots of guns! She was an RN too! Why was she not also responsible? The folks yesterday were on a mission too bad they didn't care about their little daughter. She will get social security how ironic- pitiful. What a horrible legacy to leave a child.

  • Jazzygirl
    Jazzygirl Member Posts: 12,533
    edited December 2015

    I think we could all use something to life us up a bit, wouldn't you agree? I am not sure if any of you saw this today on the Ellen Show, but think you will find her voice amazing and her courage even more amazing. I personally think she has a wonderful voice and hope she has many wonderful singing years ahead.

    Caly's Song

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited December 2015

    Jazzy, Hadn't heard that before. Wow. Had to see and know more. Thanks I know a couple places I want to put this. It's like she wrote it for us. Caly and Rachel doing it together -special

    Rachel Platten's https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xo1VInw-SKc

    Lyrics

    Like a small boat
    On the ocean
    Sending big waves
    Into motion
    Like how a single word
    Can make a heart open
    I might only have one match
    But I can make an explosion

    And all those things I didn't say
    Wrecking balls inside my brain
    I will scream them loud tonight
    Can you hear my voice this time?

    This is my fight song
    Take back my life song
    Prove I'm alright song
    My power's turned on
    Starting right now I'll be strong
    I'll play my fight song
    And I don't really care if nobody else believes
    'Cause I've still got a lot of fight left in me

    Losing friends and I'm chasing sleep
    Everybody's worried about me
    In too deep
    Say I'm in too deep (in too deep)
    And it's been two years
    I miss my home
    But there's a fire burning in my bones
    Still believe
    Yeah, I still believe

    And all those things I didn't say
    Wrecking balls inside my brain
    I will scream them loud tonight
    Can you hear my voice this time?

    This is my fight song
    Take back my life song
    Prove I'm alright song
    My power's turned on
    Starting right now I'll be strong
    I'll play my fight song
    And I don't really care if nobody else believes
    'Cause I've still got a lot of fight left in me

    A lot of fight left in me

    Like a small boat
    On the ocean
    Sending big waves
    Into motion
    Like how a single word
    Can make a heart open
    I might only have one match
    But I can make an explosion

    This is my fight song (Hey!)
    Take back my life song (Hey!)
    Prove I'm alright song (Hey!)
    My power's turned on
    Starting right now I'll be strong (I'll be strong)
    I'll play my fight song
    And I don't really care if nobody else believes
    'Cause I've still got a lot of fight left in me

    No I've still got a lot of fight left in me

  • PattyPeppermint
    PattyPeppermint Member Posts: 11,162
    edited December 2015

    chevy. - I always cook my beans in the crockpot. But I boil them for about 2 minutes first. Then I throw in whatever hambone I have left with little ham on it. Let it cook. Yum yum. Usually done about five to six hours.

    Mags - sas. - I agree. Everyone who passes te background check needs a gun and need to know how to use it. Criminals are going to get them illegally anyway. Levels the playing field . My husband has been a concealed carry for a lot of years. I want to. Just can't stand the 8 hour class. Luckily Arkansas passed an open carry laws no permit required. So you can wear it on your hip for everyone to see if you want. I am excited. I had my own gun for a long time and have it on me usually at home. Unless husband is home. Then he can protect us. Since we live in the country, we get to target practice often. So I've been looking for some purses that have a side pocket where your gun can fit. And i also have a holster. Back in 1998 our town has one of the first school shooting. An 11 year old and a 13 year old boy killed five and injured ?10. Because they were minors then they stayed in jail only until they're 18. At my boys school they practice monthly safety drills. When I was in school we practiced fire and tornado drills. Never would have thought to practice for an active shooter. At the school now several teachers carry and they have 3 resource police officers. Still scares me to send them to school. My oldest son got into the argument a few weeks and was scared when he went back to school the boy might be shooting or stabbing. Truth was I couldn't tell him it wouldn't happen. I toldhim it wasn't very likely but to watch his back. Crazy world we are living in.

    I am still in the hospital. Feeling great. WBC still low. Really really hoping to go home tomorrow. If not I make escape. My oldest son skip school and spent the whole day with me. Has been very upset. He needed to see that I was doing okay. At the end of the day he was doing much better. Husband took them to the doctor today and I got a referral for counseling. Praying it helps us all. Dh refusing to go. I'm hoping that it makes such a difference for us and he notices that he decides to go.

    Hugs all around

    Hootie hoo



  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited December 2015

    Pistol Packing PattyPeppermint :)

  • queenmomcat
    queenmomcat Member Posts: 3,039
    edited December 2015

    Miz Patty: (whistles back companionably) Makes sense to let Oldest Son skip school to spend the day in the hospital with you; all this is upsetting for them.

    Opera (Merry Widow, with Renee Fleming and Thomas Hampson in primary roles--wow@!%) on day trip to Chicago. Otherwise uninspiring, but lovely to travel from spitting distance of my own home, on Amtrak, to spitting distance of the opera house and back again.

  • Jazzygirl
    Jazzygirl Member Posts: 12,533
    edited December 2015
  • Cubbie2015
    Cubbie2015 Member Posts: 875
    edited December 2015

    LOL, Jazzy, even the women.

    "You grow a beard, Dorothy! Believe me, I woke up one morning, I looked like Arafat!"

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited December 2015

    Anyone with school age kids should have fun with this or older kids like me.

    http://news.discovery.com/space/astronomy/mystery-cosmic-radio-pulse-leaves-magnetic-clue-151203.htm

    Mystery Cosmic Radio Pulse Leaves Magnetic Clue. Think of the movie Contact.

  • Rosevalley
    Rosevalley Member Posts: 3,061
    edited December 2015

    Cubbie.. "Arafat" OMD I am so chuckling... haha super funny.. Patty maybe your son just needs to be with you. Indulge. I went to counseling with DD2 in 2014 and it made me go back into treatment her pain was so total. She wanted me to see her graduate highschool and so down the hatch went the afinitor. Counseling can be good if you find the right person.

    Patty the first time I shot a rifle I was 10 years old shooting at plastic plates on tree limb up at my Grandfather's cabin. First shot I landed flat on my butt! There was always a big gun case full, locked. My Grandfather and Great Grandfather, Uncles all were hunters. They dressed and ate what they killed. They all had specially trained bird dogs - amazing dogs vezelas (sp?) and springers. My Dad and brothers were/all gun nuts. My Dad had a gun on every level of the house and concealed weapons. (permitted) Only a fool would have broken in. Once we had a mildly retarded autistic deaf child there was no way I was having a gun in my house, too dangerous. With my other kid being bipolar again too dangerous. Just our experience.

  • Smaarty
    Smaarty Member Posts: 2,951
    edited December 2015

    got MIL all moved. We showed up this morning. Says nobody told her she was moving! Oh well. Got it all done. Now we wait for the shet to hit the fan. She's also lost new Medicare card. DH will have to order her a new one. Boy am I pooped out. Heading out of town tomorrow for some R&R.

    Night, night

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited December 2015

    Good rest and have a safe trip, Ms. Smaarty.

    Jazzy, thanks for the video. I love how generous and supportive Rachel Platten was toward Caly.

    Rose, adding Reglan and Carafate was a very good choice. Glad you got some relief

  • kathindc
    kathindc Member Posts: 2,042
    edited December 2015

    Patty, hope the WBC goes up so you can be sprung. Glad to hear you are feeling better. Breaks my heart to hear what you and your family are having to endure. Hope your son gets some good counseling. ((((HIGS)))).

  • susan3
    susan3 Member Posts: 3,728
    edited December 2015

    loveroflife, had a great day with mom today. Only lost her for a moment in the store..lol she was happy and chatty. Couldn't pay any bills, sign her name or remember what we bought. But that's small stuff from what's around the corner for us . We laughed and had a good time, and I got my shopping done. Yeah me

    Patty, hope you are getting better. I have sprung myself often...want help??? Hope you are home soon. Prayers and hugs girlfri

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited December 2015

    Susan all your Christmas shopping. I know Jazzy's done and likely shipped. I'm practicially done. Glad you had a good day with Mom. Loosing your mom in the store reminds me of Stephen as a toddler. This won't work for your Mom, but it's a happy memory for me. I started way early with rules. One rule was when I said "sound off" it was a rule he had to answer "Here I am". Worked really well. Then one day I hear his little voice say "Sound off" and my brain went what? Then I got it. It was a rule. I responded "Here I am".

    I bought two things that are interactive for my niece and nephew. Gavin and Audrey. 4&7. They are just the age that rules are being taught and life lessons. Their mom is a Teacher and a wonderful teacher. One item is a kids nativity scene. She can teach them Christ's birth story with the kids being able to handle all the pieces. I can just imagine how beautiful it will be. The second item is the Ten Commandments translated to kids language. For example, Thou shalt not commit adultery is You only love the one you are married too. I'll post the board if I can find it on line. I thought it ingenious b/c as they are written, it's not easy to explain to little ones in the beginning.

    Patty, when it first came up about the bullying you handle it well then, the counseling will be the icing. I've been in counseling since the beginning. I always recommend it. It's a safe place. Try with Dh to get him to understand the kids will need counseling for along time. It's better for their future health to be involved. Right now he's in denial. Denying that you are going to die is not healthy for him. Sounds cold, but it's true. DH and I went as a couple, then we went individually. Our goal in the was to learn to deal with what was coming. Not sure how I would have handled everything if I hadn't had that time with Greg. The pain was immense, but I often fell back on feelings shared from those sessions. Gary our counselor was an excellent guide. Still is.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited December 2015

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    Easy for small ones It's from the What on Earth catalog

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited December 2015
  • Jazzygirl
    Jazzygirl Member Posts: 12,533
    edited December 2015

    Sassy- no, not all done! One yet to ship and going to do that this morning. I went to the PO the other day and there were 30 people in line and only one person at the desk vs. the normal 3. After standing there for 10 minutes and not moving, I realized I would be there for hours and left. So I am going to UPS today and will pay more but no lines usually!

    Oh and there was this lady behind me going on and on about how she had to pay for her PO box, she forgot, it expired the day before blah, blah, blah. Yes, I get it, you want to cut the line. So when I decided to opt out I said "well, I don't have to do this today and you can have my spot and good luck!" Ha ha, good luck getting the other 29 people to give you a break.

    People are fun this time of the year! Said no one ever.....

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited December 2015

    Susan, wonderful!! It helps to have the right perspective, yeh? BTW, thank you Ms. CHEVY for sharing the article a few days ago. I haven't started on Christmas shopping yet. I am a procrastinator. God has humor as He had given me a daughter (DD1) who is also one. She put in two applications for the UC a few minutes before the deadline!! This child is going to give me a heart attack one of these days. Wait, that sounds familiar DH told me I am having a taste of my own medicine.


  • magdalene51
    magdalene51 Member Posts: 2,214
    edited December 2015

    Queencatmom, if you are an opera buff, you will appreciate this performance of Strauss' Die Fledermaus (The Revenge of the Bat). It stars Kiri te Kanawa, and features Placido Domingo in his conducting debut at London's Covent Garden. It's a hoot! Especially great if you have any familiarity with German, French, and Italian as it switches between all of those and English. I have watched this so many times the lines get stuck in my head. There is cheating, drunkenness, and a masked ball. This is the performance of Fledermaus that could never be reproduced. Ok I think I will go watch it again.

    Die Fledermaus

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited December 2015

    Jazzy, you are right about people's impatience this time of the year. On my way home after dropping DD2 off at school, the driver behind me gave me a long honk for slowing down to let a moving truck cut in front of me. He then sped up and cut in font of the truck. The old me wanted to give him more than the "look" as he drove pass me, but I had to humbly let it go. Didn't want to make it worse. People!!!

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited December 2015
  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited December 2015

    Darn it! Screen froze on me and lost the original post.image

    Jolyn supposedly makes good quality swimming wears and they just happen to have 20% off on their products that particular day to attract swimmers and surfers who were in town to watch the World Cup Surfing. These are pics from inside the bus.

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    Riding with the locals.

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  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited December 2015

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    Father and daughter bonding....such a sweet sight.

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    Sisters bonding in Waikiki.


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    Surfing lesson on land before they hit the water.

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    Where is the wave? On the left off of the pic..can't take very nice pic with the phone. Good thing the lesson was in Waikiki where they have baby waves.

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    You get big waves in North shore and less people.

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  • queenmomcat
    queenmomcat Member Posts: 3,039
    edited December 2015

    Magdalene: I am exactly that much of an opera buff, both in appreciating Kiri Te Kanawa and Die Fliedermaus. That's one of my favorite operas: pure foam. This performance of 'Merry Widow' at Chicago's Lyric had Renee Fleming and Thomas Hampson in the lead roles. WOW#)*!

    DuckyB: beautiful strength!

    (whistles encouragingly to Patty) Need help digging an escape tunnel?

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