I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

rosemary-b

Mmmm...Pot roast with potatoes and carrots for dinner. From my friends hormone free antibiotic free beef and no gravy so it was as healthy as chuck roast can be.

Alpal

Well goes to show you can't believe everything! I've been hearing forever (way before he announced his "maybe" intention to run, that he'd filed bankruptcy. Sorry the Donald.

Medigal

Ladies, I just finished "another" email to Mitch McConnell after hearing the news tonight.  It seems Sen. Paul Ryan has a proposal to do what I have been fearing for months.  He refuses to tax the rich a bit more but has no conscience about going after Medicare, Medicaid and other programs for the poor, sick, and elderly.   With one stroke he will be destroying the Repugnagant Party and handing a second term to Pres. Obama.    Mitch McConnell must be sick of my letters but I can't sit back and watch this happen when the majority of polls show the US citizens "do not want this to happen"!

I think our nation is going to become the joke of the world if they get away with using the sick, elderly and/or poor people to cut the "over-spending" THEY did with our tax dollars.  Just when you think it can't get any worse, it does.  And, no, this was not on Beck's show.  He's still ranting about hoarding food, I think.  I was watching other channels for different opinions.  Ryan's proposal can be found by just googling up the info with his name and "Medicaid".  The Democrats must love this guy!   Have a good evening.

crazy4carrots

Poll: 70% Of Tea Partiers Oppose Cuts To Medicare, Medicaid

Jon Terbush | April 20, 2011, 3:05PM

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Tea Partiers may say the government is too damn big, but when it comes to at least two federal entitlement programs, they sing a wholly different tune.

In a McClatchy-Marist poll released this week, 70% of registered voters who identify with the Tea Party opposed making cuts to either Medicare or Medicaid -- the government-run health programs for the elderly and the poor -- to help reduce the nation's deficit. Meanwhile, only 28% of tea partiers said they'd be willing to cut spending on those two programs.

Tea partiers were not alone in opposing Medicare and Medicaid cuts. An overwhelming 80% of all respondents said they opposed such cuts, with a majority of every demographic measured in the survey lining up against them.

Ninety-two percent of Democrats opposed cutting Medicare and Medicaid, as did 73% of Republicans, and 75% of independents.

The survey only broke down the age of respondents into two categories -- above or below 45 years-old -- and found that both groups opposed the proposed cuts by a similar margin. Respondents under 45 years-old opposed the cuts by an 82%-17% split, while older respondents opposed them by an 80%-18% split.

But it's the Tea Party finding which sticks out as the most glaring. The Tea Party has led the charge to slash government spending, but the Marist poll suggests they're loathe to touch what amounts to about 20% of the entire federal budget.

The Marist poll was conducted April 10-14 among 1,084 registered voters nationwide. It has a margin of error of 3.0%.

BarbaraA

Interesting thing happened on Facebook yesterday.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/04/20/obamas-facebook-townhall-crashes-conservative-group-claims-credit/

Enjoyful

Nothing says freedom and the American Way like shutting down civil discourse.

BarbaraA

Agreed.

Medigal

I don't do Facebook but it never ceases to amaze me how much these internet blogs can influence politics.  Thank goodness for that especially when it does it in a good way!

Anonymous

You ladies who are sooo worried about the Donald's financial dealings seem to have missed the key phrase in that article:

"he parried with Ivana Trump in a bitter divorce battle that hinged on properly valuing his dwindling assets" 

He does seem to have desperate financial downturns every time he approaches divorce court, and then bounces back quickly once a settlement has been reached. 

While some degree of shrewdness is an important quality in a potential President, I'm not sure such blatant calculating deviousness is something I could support.  He is more entertaining than most of the other potential candidates though.

IronJawedBCAngel

I thought that was the case with the Facebook event.  I was trying to access the site because a "Tea Party Troll" had posted a pretty disgusting comment on a post I had made earlier.  I never could get it to come back up prior to the program. It's sad that they claim to embrace the Constitution, but deny other Americans the right to their own opinions and free speech.

Medigal,  Paul Ryan presented his budget proposal a couple weeks ago, and they voted on it last week.  I believe only four Republican House members voted against it. A great resource to keep track of how Kentucky's village idiots vote is MegaVote.  You can sign up for it at congress.org.  I use it as a reference frequently in my emails and letters to McConnell and Whitfield. Whitfield surprised me last fall by voting to extend unemployment benefits and other issues that I knew were things that McConnell was vehemently opposed to.  I wrote him then to thank him for putting his constituents first.  Unfortunately, I assume he was spanked thoroughly by McConnell and is now back to acting like Mitch's "Mini-Me".

I did not vote for Obama in 2008.  I had reservations about his readiness, and wanted to vote for an intelligent woman in my lifetime, so wrote in Hillary's name. I knew I was throwing away my vote, but also was fairly sure I was not endangering a Democratic win.  He has performed pretty much as I expected, which is why I did not support his candidacy in 2008.  However, I will vote for him in 2012, as I will not vote for any GOP/Tea Party candidate who will only further the agenda of the plutocracy that now exists. I will not risk being the "one vote" that gives the GOP a win.  It is not Obama who is wanting to do away with access to healthcare, Medicaid, Medicare, WIC, mental health services, etc. etc.  It is the Republicans and the Tea Party who are wanting to take America back to the days before Roosevelt.

In 2001,many financial analysts predicted the economy we have today if Bush enacted his tax cuts for the very wealthy.  Since Reagan started the tax breaks for the ultra wealthy, our country has deteriorated because we can't afford our basic infrastructure, never mind our social programs.The middle class is disappearing into the ranks of the poor, and the rich have gotten much wealthier. The impact of those tax cuts are like a two income family suddenly having to survive on one income, it's so difficult to balance that budget, and I certainly can not blame Obama for the failings of Reagan and Bush, or the actions of the members of Congress.  Yes, spending needs to be cut, but they need to start with bringing our young people home and cutting the cost of these wars, not balancing the budget on the backs of the poor, the middle class and cancer survivors.

Anonymous

enjoyful wrote:

Nothing says freedom and the American Way like shutting down civil discourse.

You are referring to Facebook shutting down the page, and limiting comments once it was shown that many different people with an opposing viewpoint were posting there aren't you?  Civil discourse implies an exchange between people with varying viewpoints, rather than a one sided narrative.

Alpal

PatMom - If you're referring to me, I'm not "sooo worried" about anything - especially not Donald Trump. It seems that many people hide their assets in divorce court. Doesn't change a thing - now he's just dishonest in addition to the other things I dislike about him.

River_Rat

The reason that people think Trump has filed for bankruptcy is that some of the businesses he has been associated with (and have the Trump name in them) have filed.  I remember Trump seeming more liberal in the past so I've been looking for information on that and I ran across an interesting piece, 'Trump: Ultra-Conservative or Liberal in Disguise?'

http://blogs.forbes.com/erikkain/2011/04/19/trump-liberal-in-disguise-or-ultra-conservative/ 

Interesting Trump quote from the article, "The goal of health care reform, wrote Trump, should be a system that looks a lot like Canada. “Doctors might be paid less than they are now, as is the case in Canada, but they would be able to treat more patients because of the reduction in their paperwork,” he writes."

And no, if he is a "stealth" liberal that doesn't change my opinion of him.  I still think it's better if he sticks to running his businesses and doesn't run for the presidency. 

Enjoyful

PatMom -

Comments were limited after a coordinated denial-of-service attack that shut down the page for almost an hour.  The comments weren't limited because of the content, but because of the commenters' successful attempt to shut down the site.

E

Alpal

E - for a minute I thought you were talking about BCO. What is going on? I can't get into most of the things I want to read. Decided to comment on the Page Error thread, but can't get there either!

Enjoyful

Hey Alpal -

I'm referring the the link that Barbara posted:

"Interesting thing happened on Facebook yesterday.

http://dailycaller.com/2011/04/20/obamas-facebook-townhall-crashes-conservative-group-claims-credit/  "

BarbaraA

Alpal, if you go in Internet Explorer, tools, options, browsing history, delete and delete your history, close IE then log back in, it will make 90% of the threads work again.

River_Rat

The page error thing is annoying, but I'm not going to clear my history or cache.  I will just wait out the problem.  I use my history for going back to things that I've read recently rather than bookmarking everything.  I just wanted to mention that in case others use their history in this manner too.

This is what the Moderators are recommending:  

Thanks for your reports! We've let the tech team know about the Page Error messages. I'm finding that clearing my cookies and cache helps too.

If there's ever a problem with a report going through, feel free to send a Private Message to the Moderators name, and we'll get it that way.

Judith and the BCO team

BarbaraA

Tonight is comfort food: Uncured beef hotdogs, Mac and cheese and sauteed spinach. Yum. Followed by the turtle trails cocnut milk ice cream.

Have a great evening, friends.

208sandy

I LOVE hotdogs and mac and cheese - where do you get uncured beef hotdogs?  I am in Canada but still.....

A wonderful evening to you too and puleeeeeze send us some warm weather - we've been having the coldest, wettest time of it up here in Ontario.

Sandy

River_Rat

(((Barbara))), I had a comfort food dinner like that a couple of weeks ago.  In my case it was because of bad news concerning a friend.  I hope yours is just because but in case something more pressing is going on I'm sending the hugs.

We're having chicken kabobs and a salad.  I'll probably also have ice cream tonight with a little hot fudge on top. - I hadn't weighed myself in the last couple of weeks and my weight was down a little this morning so I have the horrible problem of having to gain back a couple of pounds. - and I know some of you know that it can be a problem and that others might just want to smack me right now.   

crazy4carrots

RR-  Consider yourself smacked!!!  OTOH, I was so skinny as a teenager that I well remember trying eat everything in sight in order to give me some shape.  Oh, those were the days!

crazy4carrots

 Mike Huckabee is one ticked-off Republican:

This week Glenn Beck has taken to his radio show to attack me as a Progressive, which he has said is the same as a "cancer" and a "Nazi." What did I do that apparently caused him to link me to a fatal disease and a form of government that murdered millions of innocent Jews? I had the audacity--not of hope--but the audacity to give respect to the efforts of First Lady Michelle Obama's Let's Move campaign to address childhood obesity. I'm no fan of her husband's policies for sure, but I have appreciated her efforts that Beck misrepresented--either out of ignorance or out of a deliberate attempt to distort them to create yet another "boogey man" hiding in the closet that he and only he can see. The First Lady's approach is about personal responsibility--not the government literally taking candy from a baby's mouth. He seems to fancy himself a prophet of sorts for his linking so many people and events together to describe a massive global conspiracy for pretty much everything. Sadly, he seems equally inept at recognizing the obvious fact that children are increasingly obese and that we now see clinical evidence of diseases in children that as recent as 20 years ago were found only in adults, such as Type 2 diabetes. The costs to our nation are staggering in increase health care expenses, but it even effects national security with now 75% of young men between the ages of 17 and 24 are unfit for military service primarily due to obesity! His ridiculous claim that John McCain and I collaborated and conspired in the 2008 campaign is especially laughable. Is he not aware that McCain and I were competitors---not cohorts? Beck needs to stick to conspiracies that can't be so easily de-bunked by facts. Why Beck has decided to aim his overloaded guns on me is beyond me. But he ought to clean his gun and point it more carefully lest it blow up in his face like it did this time.

Enjoyful

It's obvious - Huckabee is an Obama plant.

River_Rat

Linda, Ouch!!!  

I should mark this day down on the calendar.  I didn't wake up this morning thinking that today would be the day that I would agree with Mike Huckabee about something, but there you have it - I do!

Enjoyful

Wasn't Huckabee's maiden name Soetoro?

bluedahlia

Was it on the long form of his birth certificate?

Enjoyful

We should probably ask for that now, as well as circumcision records.

bluedahlia

Also, I think it's very important to know how often he brushes his teeth.

Medigal

Did I miss something here?  I am not a great fan of Huckabee but in this instance, I agree with him. Beck doesn't know when to quit.  E:  Huckabee's maiden name is Soetoro?  You hate him that much?  Just curious.