I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited May 2013

    Just a little something that helps staying grounded....though no one here needs it much:

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
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  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
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  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
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    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
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  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited May 2013

    I have a question, which maybe the Canadians here can answer. A few days ago I waws looking at tomatoes in the grocery store. I had one in my hand, basically just checking out its firmness. Anyway, unsolicited, a store worker said to me "you know that one is from Canada." Surprised I said, "is that a problem?" The guy just shrugged and walked off.

    Don't really know what to make of that comment. Undecided

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited May 2013

    No surprises here:  from Add. Info

    "IT DOESN'T GER ANY WORSE THAN CURRENT IRS SCANDAL SAYS Reince Priebus.

    HERE ARE 5 GOP SCANDALS THAT ARE.

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    In discussing the IRS scandal with Newsmax, Republican National Committee chairman Reince Priebus said, “Using government, using the hand of government to intimidate people, it doesn’t get any worse than this.” It’s true that illegal and unethical activity in our government needs to be investigated and those guilty need to be brought to task. The problem is, like many strictly partisan “thinkers,” Priebus is suggesting that nothing like this, and certainly nothing as serious, ever occurred before, and implying that’s especially true when a Republican was in the White House.

    In fact, just when it comes to the IRS, George W. Bush’s IRS targeted many left-leaning groups, including churches that preached anti-war messages, and other groups that criticized his administration. The truth is that, since its creation, the IRS has been used by administrations to target their opponents. Very few presidents actually suffer worse than a drop in approval ratings for that, if they suffer any consequences at all.

    Aside from misusing the IRS, the Bush Administration tried to assign blame for the 2001 anthrax attacks on someone in the Middle East. Bush said there may have been a link to Al Qaeda, and Vice President Cheney said that Al Qaeda’s men were trained in handling and spreading those types of substances. The truth there was that, by the time they were pointing fingers, the FBI already knew that the anthrax strains in the packages came from U.S. military labs. While this may not have been using the government to intimidate Americans, it was using the power of their offices to mislead the American people for the purpose of strengthening fear and hatred of the Middle East.

    During the Iran-Contra Affair, which involved diverting funds from arms sales to Iran (in exchange for releasing American hostages being held by Iranians in Lebanon) to the Contras in Nicaragua, Reagan initially denied that we’d even sent weapons to Iran, and then reversed his position a week later, but maintained that we didn’t trade those weapons for hostages. As for the diverted funds, that was at the behest of Lt. Col. Oliver North of the National Security Council, with the full knowledge of the NSC’s director, Admiral John Poindexter. While there was no actual evidence linking Reagan to the diversion of funds, it was known that supported the Contras in their fight against the Sandinistas. Poindexter resigned, North was fired, but his conviction got overturned and Poindexter was pardoned by Reagan’s successor, George H.W. Bush.

    Of course, the GOP has been quick to compare any scandal that implicates Obama, no matter how small or manufactured, to Watergate, which seems to show a complete lack of understanding about what Watergate really was. Five staunch Nixon supporters, in an attempt to secure his re-election, broke into the Democratic National Committee headquarters at the Watergate Hotel, took pictures of documents, illegally tapped phones, and were arrested during a second break-in attempt. Nixon’s involvement was proven beyond any doubt, despite his lies that he knew nothing about it, and he resigned in disgrace before impeachment proceedings could begin. He was given a full pardon by President Ford in 1974.

    But when it comes to misuse of government power, the worst, the absolute worst, at least in recent history, was George W. Bush’s “weapons of mass destruction” lie. This particular lie did not selectively target political opponents, or involve illegally obtaining people’s private information, or engage in illegal surveillance against Americans, or anything of that nature. Rather, we sent our own soldiers into a combat situation overseas for a lie. Soldiers were permanently injured, and killed, for a lie. Families were torn apart by grief over a lie. We toppled the entire government of a sovereign nation based on a lie. And we compromised what was left of our reputation after Kosovo with the rest of the world, for a lie.

    It doesn’t get any worse than the IRS scandal? Reince Priebus needs to reread—or learn—our recent history.



    Read more: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/05/25/reince-priebus-it-doesnt-get-any-worse-than-this-in-reference-to-irs-scandal-except-it-does/#ixzz2UJHmDDPT

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited May 2013

    Yorkie...strange comment.  Maybe Canadians don't put so much junk and chemicals in their fields as we do....we could all be better off for eating tomatoes from Canada. Now.....I'll go see what the Internet says, if anything. 

    Jackie

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited May 2013

    Jackie, I didn't consider that angle. I thought it might have been a pro-America comment, akin to the freedom fries insanity. I am in Kansas after all.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited May 2013

    Another little piece from ADD INfo.....boy --- real proof that you just can't teach a frog to sing.  Oh my how they love to wallow in their stupidity:

    BRAINLESS REPUBLICAN CRUELLY TELLS WOMAN SHE SHOULD HAVE CARRIED HER BRAIN-DEAD FETUS TO TERM.

    Conservative states across the nation have been passing so-called fetal pain bills banning abortion after 20 weeks of pregnancy on the false notion that fetuses can feel pain at that point of development. Unfortunately for the women who live in states with such laws, it is impossible to humanely abort a fetus that has an excruciatingly debilitating defect that will cause the fetus to die in womb or suffer painfully before dying shortly after birth.

    Not only do these women have to suffer immense heartbreak watching their baby suffer at a hospital for most of its short and painful life, their families suffer financially as well. But none of that matters to Texas Republican Congressman Louie Gohmert.

    During a Thursday House panel hearing about H.R. 1797, a fetal pain bill being pushed at the federal level by Arizona Rep. Trent Franks, Gohmert cruelly told a woman testifying against the bill that she should have been forced to carry her brain dead fetus to term and watch it die while her family suffered financially from the hospital bills.

    According to ThinkProgress, Christy Zink told lawmakers her heartbreaking story of discovering that at 21 weeks, her fetus had absolutely no brain function and wouldn’t live long, if at all, outside the womb and would suffer painfully all of the time. Rather than watch her baby suffer, Zink made the decision to have an abortion, thereby sparing the fetus of suffering that would have been incurred due to the defect that couldn’t have been detected any earlier by doctors.

    CHRISTY ZINK’S TESTIMONY:

    “If this bill had been passed before my pregnancy, I would have had to carry to term and give birth to a baby whom the doctors concurred had no chance of a life and would have experienced near-constant pain. If he had survived the pregnancy — which was not certain — he might never have left the hospital. My daughter’s life, too, would have been irrevocably hurt by an almost always-absent parent.”

    LOUIE GOHMERT’S RESPONSE:

    “Ms. Zink, having my great sympathy and empathy both. I still come back wondering, shouldn’t we wait, like that couple did, and see if the child can survive before we decide to rip him apart? So. These are ethical issues, they’re moral issues, they’re difficult issues, and the parents should certainly be consulted. But it just seems like, it’s a more educated decision if the child is in front of you to make those decisions.”

    Here’s the video:

    There are at least three problems with Gohmert’s response. First, he is clearly and cruelly trying to shame Zink by accusing her or ripping her fetus apart. Just his use of those words is an outrage. Second, Gohmert says parents should be consulted, but only the government should make the decision of whether or not a fetus can be aborted. That’s an egregious example of government intrusion into our personal lives and medical decisions, which Republicans constantly and hypocritically say they oppose. Lastly, Gohmert says the decision to have an abortion should be made when “the child is in front of you.” In other words, AFTER the baby is born. So Gohmert wants women to wait until after giving birth to decide on an abortion? How does that make sense? The point of legal abortion is so that women have the option to terminate an unwanted pregnancy or a pregnancy that will result in death, pain, or suffering of the fetus or the woman. Terminating a baby after birth is known as murder. The Constitution guarantees that “all persons born” have rights not before.

    Fetal pain bills are cruel. They are also unconstitutional and were written based on absurd and scientifically unsupported claims that fetuses can feel pain at 20 weeks. In the past two months, two such laws in Idaho and Arizona have been struck down by the federal courts. Medical science has time and time again debunked the right-wing fetal pain theory. Fetuses actually do not have the capacity to feel pain until the third trimester because they lack the connections in the brain that are necessary to send pain signals. That’s science as opposed to the desperate theories concocted by anti-abortion fanatics in their quest to subjugate women and destroy personal privacy.

    Republicans have zero compassion for the women and families they are seeking to harm. They would rather see a fetus be born, suffer, and die in excruciating pain at a severe emotional and financial cost to the mother rather than allow women to make the heartbreaking but humane choice to terminate the pregnancy. The GOP is full of cruel and heartless human beings, if you can call them human beings at all, and people are devoid of hearts and compassion do not belong in government.



    Read more: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/05/24/republican-louie-gohmert-tells-woman-she-should-have-been-forced-to-carry-her-brain-dead-fetus-to-term-video/#ixzz2UJM87XSz

    Almost makes you physically ill, but didn't faze idiot Gohmert.  There's some real cruelty for you?

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited May 2013

    Morning, all!

    Yorkie -- If that tomato came from Canada, it meant that it was hydroponically OR simply greenhouse-grown.  I expect your grocery clerk was making a silent statement about not buying "Amurrikin-made"!  Or maybe he's a Repub and hates Canada.  Yes, that's probably itWink.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited May 2013

    On Internet....regarding tomatoes from Canada......this was just a quickie.

    Canada is caught in the crossfire of a tomato war between the U.S. and Mexico.

    The price of tomatoes from Canada has dropped 40 per cent because of a glut of low-priced Mexican varieties flooding the U.S. market, according to the Ontario Greenhouse Vegetable Growers.

    In 1996, the U.S. Department of Commerce set a minimum price on Mexican tomatoes imported into the United States. Now, 16 years later, that minimum price hasn’t changed and it’s too low, say tomato growers in Florida.

    Perfect growing seasons and bumper crops in Florida, California and Mexico have also pushed prices down this year.

    Those low prices undercut Canadian tomato exporters, especially those in Leamington, Ont., the tomato capital of Canada.

    Leamington is also often referred to as the Greenhouse Capital of North America. The greenhouses in Canada’s southernmost town cover an area roughly the size of 1,000 Canadian football fields.

    Don Taylor, chair of the Ontario Greenhouse Vegetable Growers, said 70 per cent of the province's greenhouse growers are marketing their produce to the U.S.

    “The lower price means the greenhouse growers are less profitable,” Taylor said.

    Steve Enns, owner of Enns plant farm, knows that first-hand. He said tomato prices are lower than his cost of production.

    “Returns are 10 cents a pound, which is less than it costs us to grow them,” Enns said.

    Makes me wonder if the price of the tomatoes you were looking at were higher, Yorkie.  Interesting.  Another article to the side was suggesting that there is/will be a real GLUT on the market of not only tomatoes but cucumbers as well this year.  Interesting. 

    My first theory....out to lunch. 

    Jackie

  • lassie11
    lassie11 Member Posts: 1,500
    edited May 2013

    I deliberately buy tomatoes grown in Canada because I want to support local industry. Obviously, if you are buying Canadian tomatoes at this time of year, they were grown in a hot house. The ones late in the summer are yummier. I have no idea what, if any, differences there are in regulations about growing them.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2013

    cfc - you always make me giggleWink thank you.

    Ok, this is for real - snow showers.  As Dave Barry would say, "I am not making this up."  Will say no more about it, cuz it's supposed to be in the 70's by the end of the week.  But this is vurry, vurry strange....and I REFUSE to turn on the heat. Refuse.  Will wear woolies b4 I use up the oil in May.

    Don't know about Canadian tomatoes, but noticed a Canadian little sticker on a turnip I bought.  Delicious. Don't buy tomatoes in store, taste like red cardboard.  I adore the Sungold cherry tomatoes I grow - and with such a short gorwig season here, they ripen early, and my favorite is eating them right off the vine, warm from the sunshine. Yummy.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited May 2013

    Sun....yummy.  Makes for lots of memories too....way back when days.  We would just carry a salt shaker ( yes those were the days when bodies could metabolize it properly ) out to the garden, pick a tomato.....dust off the skin and start eating a piece of heaven in your hand.   Radishes, gooseberries, strawberries --- since mainly natural methods ( right kind of bugs and bees ) were used, some really good eating took place. 

    There was lots of canning done back then as well.  Well -- that required a fair amt. of sugar or salt.  We did seem ( the majority of us anyway ) to be able to metabolize food done that way.  Wow....no salt shaker at my house and not very much for sugar either.  South Beach diet broke me almost totally of my dependence on both.  Now sweetened or salted food is sometimes hard to get down. 

    Jackie

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited May 2013

    Yeah, I think the latter. Right wing nationalism is alive and well here, and my town is considered the liberal mecca of KS!

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited May 2013

    Over $2 billion worth of goods (including tomatoes and turnips!) cross the Canada/U.S. border every day.  Keeping bridges and roads in good repair is vitally important economically for both our countries. Too bad some in Congress don't see it that wayFrown.

    On another note:  Sunny...snow showers???  Really???  Here in Niagara we had coolish weather yesterday.  Warming up and sunny today and expecting temps in the 70's next week.  Surely your weatherperson's been smoking something s/he shouldn't (!)

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited May 2013

    Elmore Vermont has 38 degrees tonight.  Here in central Jersey, it's in the mid-40ies and COLD.  We have to remember that what's happening with Global Climate change is not just warming - it's unpredictable weather.

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited May 2013

    Unpredictable is an understatement!  Within less than 24 hours this week we went from 85F and humid to 35F and very windy.  Luckily, it didn't go down to freezing so my tomato plants survived!

    Jackie -- my favourite lunch in bygone days was a fresh-from-the-garden green onion sandwich with lots of butter and black pepper!  I didn't much care for tomatoes way back then, but I sure do now!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited May 2013

    alexandria - thermometer outside my front door right now is 42 - and well below 38 tonight - fields across the street from me are COVERED with sheets, plastic, looks very strange - farmers desperately trying to save their crops - CSA ( Community Supported Agriculture) shares all start for Spring/Summer this weekend.

    Are green onions the same as scallions?  You can have some from my garden if ya'd like'em, fresh garlic tooLaughing

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited May 2013

    Um....about the tomatoes:

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited May 2013

    Jackie, that saying "a picture says a thousand words" is really resonating! Surprised

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited May 2013

    Yep, SF, scallions = green onions.  I think people from the midwestern U.S. (and, evidently, Ontario) tend to call them green onions; but I when I lived in Massachusetts, everyone called them scallions.

    E, just imagine how smitten this guy is going to be when you unveil your amazing toe-eating talent!

    Suzieq, I'll ask my daughter what software she uses.  (She's working for a small benefit fund, not an insurance company, though.)

    Even colder here today!  But I did find New Jersey strawberries at the greenmarket: I assume they were grown in a hothouse or with some kind of protection, but still, they're going to be SO much better than the supermarket ones.  Strawberry-rhubarb tarts for dessert tonight, I think.

    Linda

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited May 2013

    Yep green onions, aka scallions (which always makes me think "scalliwag"!).

    We have tons of blooms on our strawberry plants but it will be at least 3-4 weeks before the first ones are ready.  Our Presbyterian Church always has its Strawberry Festival in mid-June.  Last year, with everything a month early because of our really early spring, there were very few strawberries left for the Festival.  This year, I think there'll be lots (well, okay, fingers crossed!).

    E -- I used to be able to eat my toes, but never mastered the "eating WITH my toes" feat (or feet, take your pick!).  BTW, your semi-beau has the same first name (and same spelling, even) as my brother, which means nothing in the long run, other than that it makes me favourably disposed towards himKiss.

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited May 2013

    Lewing - it probably won't be the same software - it is mainly for household/motor vehicle and workers compensation claims.

    We don't import the majority of our fruit and vegetables due to strict quarrantine rules. They want to import bananas from the Philipines but we are fighting it. Our state is the big banana growing state and we don't want the threat of imported diseases.

    Tried to stay asleep, but the internal alarm clock went off at 5 as usual.

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited May 2013

    Oh God, I don't EAT my toes, I eat WITH my toes.  Eating your toes is just gross.  

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited May 2013

    And eating WITH your toes isn't???

    BTW, I only ate my toes when I was a wee young'un.  Didn't you?  Didn't everybody?  I bet wee Phillip (Blue's grandbaby) willLaughing

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited May 2013

    Exactly, CFC.  Exactly.  ;-)

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited May 2013

    Guess who got groomed?

    And guess who won't leave her alone!

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited May 2013

    They're the same size now!

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