The Brand New Respectful Presidential Campaign Thread

Cherryl...you can click on anyone's name and their info will come up, it shows when they last posted and when they checked into the site. I clicked on obamaforpresident and saw Amy is checking in on a regular basis but is not posting. I stand corrected, go to community members, then type her name in "search" and it will show the last posting and the last time they were on the site.

shokk, i accept your apology. I really would like to keep on enjoying reading this thread without having to read everyone's character assassinations of everyone else (about the posters here and about the politicians). thank you for giving it some thought.

celia 

My sister and I were talking yesterday and wondering where is everyone (even Ophra) who continued asking Hilary to run for President, we heard it for years.  I still listen to Obama, but I'm hearing lots but he's saying nothing.  I was very enthralled with Obama but I am really thinking that Hilary knows just what she's going to do as President and how to do it.  I think it takes amazing tenacity to continue on when everyone is telling her to stop, I think that would make a good President.  I feel so bad for Hilary so many people have (dumped) when they pushed for her to run, that's got to suck and to keep on going that shows strength of character. So I can't vote but if I could it would now be Hilary.  I really hope everyone is listening clearly, and if I have missed something fill me in.  I keep hearing from Obama it's time for change. Well thats a nobrainer, it is time for change but what's his plan, someone please, please explain.

Did anybody see the article about the "2 Michelles" ???

2 MICHELLES, 2 AMERICAS  &  SHAME vs. PRIDE 

By Michelle Malkin 

Like Michelle Obama, I am a "woman of color." Like Michelle Obama, I am a working mother of two young children. Like Michelle Obama, I am a member of the 13th generation of Americans born since the founding of our great nation.

Unlike Michelle Obama, I can't keep track of the number of times I've been proud - really proud - of my country since I was born and privileged to live in it.  At a recent speech in Milwaukee on behalf of her husband's Democratic presidential campaign, Mrs. Obama remarked, "For the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country, and not just because Barack has done well, but because I think people are hungry for change."

Mrs. Obama's statement was met with warm applause from other Barack supporters who have also apparently been devoid of pride in their country during their adult lifetimes. Or maybe it was just a Pavlovian response to the word "change." What a sad, empty, narcissistic, ungrateful, unthinking lot.

I'm just seven years younger than Mrs. Obama. We've grown up and lived in the same era. And yet, her self-absorbed attitude is completely foreign to me. What planet is she living on? Since when was now the only time the American people have ever been "hungry for change"?

Michelle, ma belle, Barack is not the center of the universe. Newsflash: The Obamas did not invent "change" any more than Hillary invented "leadership" or John McCain invented "straight talk." We were both adults when the Berlin Wall fell, Michelle. That was earth-shattering change. We've lived through two decades' worth of peaceful, if contentious, election cycles under the rule of law, which have brought about "change" and upheaval, both good and bad. We were adults through several launches of the space shuttle, in case you were snoozing. And as adults, we've witnessed and benefited from dizzyingly rapid advances in technology, communications, science, and medicine pioneered by American entrepreneurs who yearned to change the world and succeeded. You want "change"? Go ask the patients whose lives have been improved and extended by American pharmaceutical companies that have flourished under the best economic system in the world.   If American ingenuity, a robust constitutional republic, and the fall of communism don't do it for you, hon, then how about American heroism and sacrifice? How about every Memorial Day? Every Veterans Day? Every Independence Day? Every Medal of Honor ceremony? Has she never attended a welcome-home ceremony for the troops? For me, there's the thrill of the Blue Angels roaring over cloudless skies. And the somber awe felt amid the hallowed waters that surround the sunken U.S.S. Arizona at the Pearl Harbor memorial.

Every naturalization ceremony I've attended, where hundreds of new Americans raised their hands to swear an oath of allegiance to this land of liberty, has been a moment of pride for me. So have the awesome displays of American compassion at home and around the world. When millions of Americans rallied to help victims of the 2004 tsunami in Southeast Asia - including members of the U.S.S. Abraham Lincoln Carrier Strike Group that sped from Hong Kong to assist survivors - my heart filled with pride. It did again when the citizens of Houston opened their arms to Hurricane Katrina victims and folks across the country rushed to their churches and offices of the Salvation Army and Red Cross to volunteer.

How about American resilience? Does that not make you proud? Only a heart of stone could be unmoved by the strength, valor, and determination displayed in New York, Washington, D.C., and Shanksville, Pa., on September 11, 2001.

I believe it was Michael Kinsley who quipped that a gaffe is when a politician tells the truth. In this case, it's what happens when an elite Democratic politician's wife says what a significant portion of the party's base really believes to be the truth: America is more a source of shame than pride.

Michelle Obama has achieved enormous professional success, political influence, and personal acclaim in America . Ivy League educated, she's been lauded by Essence magazine as one of the 25 World's Most Inspiring Women; by Vanity Fair as one of the ten World's Best-Dressed Women; and named one of "The Harvard 100" most influential alumni. She has had an amazingly blessed life. But you wouldn't know it from her campaign rhetoric and her griping about her and her husband's student loans.

For years, we've heard liberals get offended at any challenge to their patriotism. And so they are again aggrieved and rising to explain away Mrs. Obama's remarks.

Lady Michelle and her defenders protest too much.

Rocktobermom that was fantastic!

Jeez Kelly that just makes me sooooooo proud......thanks for a great couple of post..................Shokk

Michelle Obama is going to be Barak's biggest problem........she is a huge liability..........she can't keep her mouth closed and she is angry......not sure what but she is pissed..........not sure how Obama's team is going to muzzle her and who is going to tell her to shut up but how great of a SNL skit would that be?..........ha...............you can tell Obama is scared of her........Shokk

Jaybird, I'll drink to that!!

Cherryl

Jaybird, i like your idea of writing in Hillary if Obama wins the nomination.  I know i will not vote for McCain for sure, and I don't want to vote for Obama.

Roctobermom, i loved your post about being proud of America. I was so annoyed at Michele Obama for her statement.

Oh, I'm pissed too! I can't even watch the tv for fear I'll throw something at it and ruin it. The $600 I got from Bush barely paid my mortgage - I cannot afford a new tv!

Give me a phone number and I'll call her and tell her to not give up, and to kick Obama's ass back to where he came from. (I swear I'm not a violent person...)

I originally joined the other political thread when I read a post that said Hillary had done nothing for New York State.  It was so untrue (can't remember who said it?) that I couldn't resist joining in to point out the actual facts.  Back then, everyone was against Hillary, so I'm delighted to see that so many recent posters see her virtues.

Grace--I'm rather disappointed that you would be the one to bring up that old canard about Vince Foster--a vile rumor that began with Rush Limbo and his crew (speaking of Limbo, where is Imma these days?).

Shokk--I don't remember calling you out .previously, but that certainly was a nice mea culpa you did just now, to Joanne and Celia, although I'm not aware of what caused it  I'm still wondering if you're really a Republican?  

Jaybird--For the same reason I can't watch MSNBC any more.  And I doubt I'll ever watch it again after this election is over. 

I wonder if anyone else here feels as I do.  It's become very personal for me in the last few months with respect to Hillary.  I didn't realize how much I resented the treatment I received during my lifetime, on various jobs, where I did the work and the men got the big promotions and even bigger raises.  Some people would have said I did well, but I know that if I had been a male I would have done much better.  I constantly saw my work used by others, always men.  It's no longer Hillary that I see getting the shaft, but me!  I can't imagine how any woman can vote for Obama over her.  What has this man done, ever, to merit running for president, let alone winning! 

Not all Americans love atonement.  When the DNC has to explain all that they did to keep Hillary out, this November I'm hoping, I won't be forgetting or forgiving.  I'll be doing everything I can to make sure I get the McCain vote out.

Voting will be our ticket to get the DNC and the rest of the Party to realize they have to make changes to their system.  McCain's win will have to be big so heads will start spinning in place.  They already have plans to blame Obama's loss on Hillary, but a big McCain win should stifle that.

And let me just say this..........if I were Hillary the second that she is ROBBED of being the nominee I would go back to Washington and declare myself an Independent and spend the next four years as Senator from NY and getting my name on as many policies as I could and run against either McCain or Obama in four years.............not only stick it to the Republicans but stick it bigger to the Democrats.........so there...........Shokk

Well, I'm still going to write her name in even if it won't count. That is, if she doesn't get the nomination. It's still close, she has many supporters, so it ain't over yet!!!

I'm just so pissed at how this is playing out. I do believe that this country is afraid of smart leaders (as how articulate Gore lost to inarticulate Bush) and expecially of smart women! Grrrrr........

Conspiracy theory...there is probably some unknown force behind Obama that we the people know little about and they are controlling the entire affair and will control the Whitehouse when he is elected, he will be there in name only voting PRESENT on everything!