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read this today...
Tony Allen-Mills
ON almost every step of his march towards the Republican nomination, John McCain has relied on the support of his glamorous second wife Cindy. Yet she has not always been a political asset. A Republican victory in November would bring to the White House a formidable but flawed first lady.
McCain's marriage has long attracted attention both for the 18-year age gap between husband and wife and for their adopted Asian daughter, who became the focus of one of the most vicious dirty tricks of the 2000 presidential campaign.
The couple have also overcome daunting health problems that included McCain's bouts with skin cancer, a stroke suffered by Cindy in 2004, and her admission a decade earlier that she had become so addicted to painkillers that she was stealing them from a medical charity she ran.
Yet somehow the McCains have emerged as a potent and durable political partnership. Cindy McCain was at her husband's side last week as he celebrated the Florida primary victory that has put him at the front of the Republican field.
A former Arizona rodeo beauty queen and daughter of a millionaire Phoenix businessman, Cindy McCain was 25 when she met her future husband at a cocktail party in Hawaii. John McCain was a 43-year-old naval liaison officer travelling with a congressional delegation, his sights already set on a political career.
He was also still married to his first wife Carol, although the couple had recently separated. Carol later attributed the breakdown of the marriage to "John turning 40 and wanting to be 25 again". McCain fell like a brick for Cindy, who was the heir to a brewery distribution business worth millions. For several years afterwards the McCains endured Washington gossip that he had dumped his first wife - who had been crippled in a car accident - in favour of a trophy bride to enhance his political ambitions.
It was in the late 1980s, after a series of miscarriages and giving birth to three children, that Cindy developed spinal problems and was prescribed painkillers after surgery. Her husband and family had no idea she was secretly taking pills stolen from a charity she had created called the American Voluntary Medical Team, which sent mobile surgical units to war zones. When federal agents began to investigate gaps in the charity's records, Cindy telephoned her husband, a senator in Washington, and confessed.
She admitted at the time that the 1994 episode had "nearly destroyed both of us". But she underwent treatment and attended meetings of Narcotics Anonymous as part of a deal with prosecutors who dropped charges.
A few years earlier she had visited Bangladesh with a different charity and decided on the spur of the moment to help a little girl with a cleft palate whom she met in Mother Teresa's orphanage.
The McCains eventually adopted the girl, named her Bridget and raised her as their daughter. She is now 16, but during McCain's ugly presidential primary fight against George W Bush in 2000, voters in South Carolina began receiving telephone calls suggesting the senator had fathered an illegitimate black child.
The authors of the smear have never been identified, but Bush was the beneficiary and went on to win the South Carolina primary and the Republican nomination. The McCains have never publicly blamed Bush and their relations have been outwardly cordial. But Cindy recently admitted that she keeps a "grudge list".
Cindy McCain, now 53, claims she has no interest in policy making - "I am not the legislator in this family. He is" - and that she intends to keep busy running her charities and her family's company. As first lady, it is clear that she would play a key role. Acknowledging that McCain had made many enemies in Republican ranks, she added: "The only person my husband can trust is me."
Watch Cindy McCain on
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Puppy-five a fetus is an extention of the woman, who has the right to choose, until the fetus is born and can live on it's own. A fetus is the potential for life, not life. Even if this wasn't the case, people can't give consent for medical procedures until they reach the age of majority. If men were the ones who got pregnant and had babies, I doubt this would be as much of an issue. Nobody tries to tell men what kind of medical procedures they can and can't have.
Beth, McCain's wife shouldn't have anything to do with whether or not he gets the nomination, in my opinion and her personal life should be off the record. Shame on anyone who goes after the child of a candidate. Even if his daughter was illegitimate that has nothing to do with the type of president he would be. I don't want McCain to be our next president, but I don't want to see him, his wife or their daughter slandered.
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Amy, the unfortuate part, is that the partner of the person running for president always gets examined. I just think people want to talk about "billary" all the time, so the other candidates should have their fair share of spousal exposure as well.
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This is a link to the LAF site that shows which candidates participated in a cancer forum. I don't know if it was discussed here earlier.
http://www.livestrong.org/site/c.khLXK1PxHmF/b.3256473/?msource=eml0204st&auid=3351282
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I believe I've decided in Obama as a leader for a democratic US of diverse interest and for a democratic US that can articulate to the rest of the world the peaceful interests of the US within it's strength....for whatever my opinion is worth....I know that my vote is important.
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You know after Amy talked about the Robo-calls I started looking at some of the tactics of some of the campaigns whether true or accusations.
One of the really strange accusations was that Hillary once nominated
was going to use dirty tricks to insinuate that McCain was mentally unbalanced by way of his temper.
So imagine my astonishment to see not Hillary doing it but his own party!
It's getting ugly out there!
And all you have to do is watch Fox for a few minutes to see that station and former Senator Rick Santorum who now works for Fox try to sabotage him.
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From the Washington Post today :
GOP Senators Reassess Views About McCain
His Old Foes Still Wary Of His Pugnacious Style
By Paul Kane
Washington Post Staff Writer
Monday, February 4, 2008; A01
John McCain once testified under oath that a Senate colleague inappropriately used tobacco corporation donations to sway votes on legislation. He cursed out another colleague in front of 20 senators and staff members, questioning the senator's grip on immigration legislation. And, on the Senate floor, McCain (R-Ariz.) accused another colleague of "egregious behavior" for helping a defense contractor in a move he said resembled "corporate scandals."
And those were just the Republicans.
In a chamber once known for cordiality if not outright gentility, McCain has battled his fellow senators for more than two decades in a fashion that has been forceful and sometimes personal. Now, with the conservative maverick on the brink of securing his party's presidential nomination, McCain's Republican colleagues are grappling with the idea of him at the top of their ticket.
"There would be a lot of people who would have to recalibrate their attitudes toward John," said Sen. Robert F. Bennett (R-Utah), a supporter of Mitt Romney's who has clashed with McCain.
Many Senate Republicans, even those who have jousted with McCain in the past, say their reassessment is underway. Sensing the increasing likelihood that he will be the nominee, GOP senators who have publicly fought with him are emphasizing his war-hero background and playing down past confrontations.
"I forgive him for whatever disagreements he has had with me. We can disagree on things, but I have great admiration for him," said Sen. Ted Stevens (R-Alaska), a senior member of the Appropriations Committee who has often argued with McCain over government spending.
But others have outright rejected the idea of a McCain nomination and presidency, warning that his tirades suggest a temperament unfit for the Oval Office.
"The thought of his being president sends a cold chill down my spine," Sen. Thad Cochran (R-Miss.), also a senior member of the Appropriations panel, told the Boston Globe recently. "He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and he worries me."
A former colleague says McCain's abrasive nature would, at minimum, make his relations with Republicans on Capitol Hill uneasy if he were to become president. McCain could find himself the victim of Republicans who will not go the extra mile for him on legislative issues because of past grievances.
"John was very rough in the sandbox," said former senator Rick Santorum (R-Pa.), who is outspoken in his opposition to McCain's candidacy. "Everybody has a McCain story. If you work in the Senate for a while, you have a McCain story. . . . He hasn't built up a lot of goodwill."
Santorum was a fierce advocate for the GOP's social conservative wing -- a group particularly hostile to McCain because of his apostasy on immigration and same-sex marriage -- while Cochran is considered one of the more genteel senators. Both men back Romney, a former Massachusetts governor, for president.
To McCain's allies, his fiery personality is part of the "Straight Talk" lore, and a positive quality in a passionate fighter who will tell you to your face how much he dislikes an idea.
"When he's arguing about something he believes in, he's arguing about it," said Mark Salter, a top aide to McCain. "It's an admirable trait, the capacity to be outraged."
Salter scoffed at the idea that McCain is not fit to be president and said most stories about his temper are "wildly exaggerated." He pointed to McCain's success at "across-the-aisle cooperation" with Democrats as an example of how he would deal with Congress if elected president.
Those legislative wins include a major campaign finance law in his name in 2002 and a deal with 14 Democrats and Republicans in 2005 that broke Democratic filibusters on judicial nominees. "That resulted in a lot of good, solid, conservative jurists being confirmed," Salter said.
McCain's battles with colleagues have often gone beyond the ins and outs of policy, taking on a fierce personal tone that other senators do not often engage in, at least not in public.
Stevens, for example, has long stuffed the annual Pentagon spending bill with earmarked provisions for his home state that draw the ire of McCain, who has crusaded against such pet projects. In 2002, Stevens inserted an unusual provision in the defense appropriations bill that allowed Boeing Corp. to lease fuel tankers to the Air Force for $21 billion.
McCain regularly took to the floor to criticize the provision and tried to steal jurisdiction from Stevens's subcommittee so he could kill the deal. "This is the same kind of egregious behavior we often rail against here on the Senate floor when it comes to corporate scandals," he said.
While he has lost almost every earmark fight with Stevens, McCain won the Boeing battle by using his perch atop the Commerce Committee in 2003 and 2004 to investigate the lease deal, uncovering corruption inside the Air Force procurement office.
As president, one of McCain's most critical relationships would be with Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.), a necessary ally in the conflict with a Democratic-led Congress. But their relationship has been gravely tested.
In 2003, after McConnell challenged the McCain-Feingold campaign finance law in court, McCain gave testimony that almost accused McConnell of breaking federal laws. Under oath, he said that in 1998 McConnell tried to scuttle McCain's legislation to settle lawsuits against the tobacco industry by informing GOP senators that Big Tobacco would spend millions of dollars supporting candidates who opposed McCain's bill.
McConnell has denied the nature of the allegation, but that deposition culminated a five-year fight between the senators over the tobacco bill and the campaign finance legislation. But McConnell said last week that he would have no trouble with McCain as the nominee or as president.
"We've had a great relationship since," McConnell said. "All of them [McCain's fights] have been respectable and entirely within the traditions of the Senate."
McCain's relationship with House Republicans has been strained for years. After stumping for more than 50 GOP candidates during the 2000 campaign, McCain dramatically scaled back his efforts in 2002 out of pique toward House Republicans who opposed his effort to overhaul campaign finance law. In 2004, while McCain was objecting to GOP-backed tax cuts, then-Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) suggested that the senator, a former prisoner of war, should go to Walter Reed Army Medical Center to see what "sacrifice" meant to the nation.
Nevertheless, many House Republicans now view McCain as the best possible nominee. Despite the senator's heresies on taxes, immigration and campaign finance, Rep. Tom Cole (Okla.), chairman of the Republican campaign committee, said McCain could appeal to independent voters.
"You'll have more Democrats running away from Hillary Clinton than you'll have Republicans running away from our nominee," he said.
In his first run for the presidency in 2000, McCain's temperament became an issue as campaign aides to George W. Bush questioned whether the senator was a suitable occupant for the Oval Office. Only a few of McCain's Senate colleagues endorsed him then.
But the past few years have seen fewer McCain outbursts, prompting some senators and aides to suggest privately that he is working to control his temper. This time, 13 senators have endorsed his presidential bid, more than for any other candidate, Democrat or Republican.
"We all get a little bit mellower," Salter said. "But he doesn't get up every morning saying, 'I must control my temper.' "
Last spring, however, McCain's confrontational side reappeared during a closed-door meeting of senators from both parties. After spending six weeks away from the Senate, he showed up for final negotiations on a fragile immigration bill, leading Sen. John Cornyn (R-Tex.) to question where he had been. McCain responded by swearing at Cornyn loudly and repeatedly, according to witnesses.
Cornyn, who has not endorsed a presidential candidate, doesn't expect to befriend McCain anytime soon but said he will happily stump for him as the nominee.
"We've had our moments, but we've gotten over that and moved on down the road," Cornyn said. "You're talking about people who are professionals. You don't have to link arms and sing 'Kumbaya' to get things done."-------------------------------------
Personally--I like that the guy is passionate about what he believes and don't mind the salty language one bit.
By the way if I recollect rightly LBJ had some of the saltiest language around and look what he was able to accomplish working with both sides
of Congress.
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Marilyn, with living in Italy, are you able to cast absentee ballots for the primaries?
I think it is a legitimate argument to bring up the "Billary" factor.
There are political spouses and there are political spouses ...
For the GOP, the VP has taken on a very large proportion... Dick Cheney changed the role dramatically. And whomever is McCain's running mate will be the shoe-in candidate for the next election because McCain is a one term pres.
But if Hillary is pres, the chain of command will be Hillary, Bill, and then the VP. Whomever is the VP will be a non-entity. And Bill is an overwhelming force.
He has overpowered her in this campaign and it is because of his campaigning that she has slipped in the polls.
I also do not want to repeat history.
I really want a NEW face in the White House.
And I will never forget, for as long as I live, something I felt was a disgrace.
And no, I am not talking about Monica.
I am talking about the lack of respect that was exhibited for the White House and its history.
This is Abraham Lincoln and his beloved son
Here is a photo of the boy
When the Lincolns were in the White House there was room that President Lincoln felt the most comfortable in. It was his private study. Imagine him writing the Gettysburg Address in that room.
When his son took ill, he had him brought to this room. He died soon after.
He died and was laid out for viewing in the bed in that room.
That was when the Lincolns were in the White House.
When the Clintons were in the White House, their first guests, "honored" this room and the SAME BED, like this
That is Markie Post and Linda Bloodsworth Thomason jumping on the bed in what is now known as The Lincoln Bedroom.
Another 8 years of the Clintons?
No thank you.
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This is disgusting.Who are these women, and why are they actually JUMPING ON A BED??They appear to have shoes/boots on.
I'm SO appalled.Can you say BEYOND disrespectful?
No, no more Clintons in the WH for me either (even before, WAAAYbefore I saw this outrage)
You know my vow:if billary actually grabs the nomination, I will definately vote for McCaine.(Thinking of you, Beth!)
Marilyn, what a good decision I think you have made, and how true your sentiments
"I believe I've decided in Obama as a leader for a democratic US of diverse interest and for a democratic US that can articulate to the rest of the world the peaceful interests of the US within it's strength....for whatever my opinion is worth....I know that my vote is important."
Your vote is very important, but...do you have to vote in absentee ballot from PA.?Because you will join the rest of we disgruntled folks who will join the primarys after the horse is already out of the barn.Maybe.
Hugs for your beautiful Harlequin --00000XXX
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The photo of the girls in the Lincoln bedroom looks very fishy to me - very photo-shopped looking. I did a google search and was able to find only one very obscure right-wing blog that referenced that photo.
I doubt that it is real.
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Oh, good, Donna, thanks.The photo is too awful.
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Yep.
https://www.overseasvotefoundation.org/svid-pennsylvania
There are enough overseas votes that we constitute the size of a state (I don't remember which one). It's an important issue if our votes are not counted until after the election! It was important to us in the last presidential election that is certain. But, the issue election fraud in Ohio during the last election and Florida .... well .... seems we have work to do in the country to clean up the mess.
I believe it was Carter who said that the elections in the US were less than fair...and worse than some foreign countries. How did we get to this place?
I still believe in the principles that our country was founded upon. I believe too that Americans are unique to rebound toward justice and peace in a manner that captures the hearts of the world. Live outside of our country for a time to see just how true that is. It is the reason that I cried when the election results were announced for the last presidential election. Even the secretary in our doctors office wanted to know how it was possible for the people of the US to elect Bush twice.
Va bene, basta!
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Marilyn, I think that is great. I liked learning about overseas voting. I also think you are making an excellent choice!
Donna and Joan, I wish that photo was a fake. But it was really big when it broke in 1993. I have some non-fringe references to it for you.
http://www.democrats.com/node/6753
http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=95001280
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Gina,
The original source of the photo, according to the links you provided, is a tabloid. Not saying that everything in a tabloid is fake, but I don't see, and nor do I recall, any major news outlet reporting on this supposed incident.
When the Clintons left the WH, there were rumors about how they trashed the place, which turned out to be false as well.
I'm not a big fan or defender of the Clintons, but hatred of them that some feel escapes me.
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Beth, don't you think that Bill Clinton is a different than the typical political spouse? He has more access to people and more who own him political favors than the other spouses of candidates, just by virtue of having been a former president. I sure hope all his dirty laundry has been aired. I do not buy into the notion that spouses personal lives are fair game just because it often happens.
Blundin, I do agree with you.
NS, I really hear you on not wanting more of the clinton circus and the nastiness. Hillary in particular is polarizing and will bring out the calls for special prosecuters and investigations.
DJD I could care less about the photo-- whether real or photoshopped. It has nothing to do with how Hillary will run the country if she's elected-- there are enough political reasons why Obama would be better. Unless the clintons were the ones who actually took the picture, it's more a reflection of the jumpers than the clintons.
susie--- santorum frightens me-- he's all about the negative ads-- I'm sure you'll remember them from PA.
I hope McCain, if nominated, isn';t pressured to pick a holy roller as his running mate-- I have visions of a McCain/Huckabee ticket and they're frightening. Huckabee seems like a genuinely nice guy, what he wants to do to the country is scary and with a 71 yo president it's not out of the realm of possibilities that the veep could be called to duty.
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It's SUPER tuesday.
I'm sitting here watching the GIANTS parade down the streets of Manhattan... We won this weekend, and hopefully Hillary will win with NY again.
Can't wait to get out there and vote.
guess I'll check back in here late tonight, when the results start to come in. Happy voting.
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Amy --For once I can agree with you 100%---Huckabee speaks well, is very personable with probably the best sense of humor of any of the candidates---He is genuinely funny---but the thought of him becoming president and wanting to add amendments to the constitution. Very,
very scary prospect!
Every once in a while I'll have an all news station on in the background---then as I pick up bits and pieces of weirdness I'm thinking "What the heck am I listening to??????".
Inevitably, it turns out to be the Fox news channel with guys like Santorum, and Bay Buchanan.
Yes, I certainly remember him---I get nuts everytime I see him on Fox.
I wonder if Senator Arlen Spector will endorse anyone.
As to McCain marching to his own drummer--I said that saying that he
would have nominated Sandra Day O'Conner would have been political suicide-----so by that reasoning--will someone tell me why the day before Super Tuesday he is embracing Lieberman in Massachusetts?
Is that the new way to garner Conservatives in California? What were they thinking?
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Sorry...I tried to copy/paste and post the stats of the % of eligible voters who voted in PA Presidential elections between 1960 and 2004...but it didn't work. The point being VOTE! -
Donna, I don't have a hatred towards them. But I don't want to go back to them either. I apologize if it appeared that way.
Madalyn, I remember when that photo came out. I do know that Linda Bloodsworth Thomason made a tv show in 2000 parodying the event, starring Delta Burke as a reprise of Designing Women and she visits the White House and jumps on the bed and it breaks. It was a tongue in cheek poke at the photo that caused such a ruckus.
But you know, I don't think the photo means that much - it is what the "Lincoln Bedroom" came to represent with the White House being turned into a big frat house back in the day.
I just can't see Michelle Obama running the White House like that.
Maybe I should have just written that last night instead of being the history geek with old photos of Will Lincoln! ( I get that way- somebody needs to smack me when I do!)
I heard on the TV at rads today that McCain supports bringing back the draft. THAT is one hell of a scary prospect.
I hope everyone gets out and votes today.
Amy- Political Junkie Playoff Time hits a fever pitch!
Beth the parade was awesome. So glad they didn't get rained on!
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Asking McCain about the draft
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx8jL4kBkmgIt's Jack Murtha that wants the draft
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Anybody see what West Virginia did---May portend the rest of the day.
Nobody got a majority in the first round but Romney had the most with Huckabee coming in second and McCain a distant third.---
In the second round the McCain backers threw their support to Huckabee leaving McCain with 1% but denying Romney the winner take all delegates.
Huckabee gets the delegates. This is fascinating---- All this wheeling and dealing.
Fox news must be blowing a gasket. LOL
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Okay, those of you who never actually watch Fox news but seem to comment on it, this is what is really going on: First of all,it you actually watch Fox, you would learn that McCain never campaigned in WV and has conceded the small conservative states because he feels it is a waste of time. So that is why he will not win any delegates there, he does not expect to. Secondly, if you really watched Fox news, you would see there are people supporting all the various candidates, not just the conservatives. Yes, guys like Hannity are all about the right wing candidates, but did any of you notice that Mike Wallace interviewed both McCain and Clinton on Sunday and they had a very civil debate? Obama has been asked to be on Fox many times but he refuses because he might actually be challenged to answer a question and not dance around it. As for Fox news pulling for Romney, I guess you all missed OReilly giving McCain a pat on the back for his polictical comback, and the fact that he did it all on his own, shaking one hand at a time. They even have some really intelligent dems who I love to listen to because they give their opinions in a non combative way, and they respect the opinions of others. Their panels are always equally repubs and dems. Of course you would never know this by just reading the internet blogs that take them out of context and make it seem like they are saying something totally different. They only quote Hannity but never mention that Colmes always gives the other side. For instance, I saw the mainstream media mocking Hannity for saying "only === days until George Bush is reelected", but never mentioned that Colmes also said, "Only === days until Kerry is elected".I challenge you to actually watch Fox news. You might actually learn the truth about the station. The reason they beat everyone else in cable television is because you really do get both sides of the issues. But then again, I guess you only want to hear one side.
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OH darn, its the middle of the work week. Dont have any time.
Now picture this. Hillary went to the same high school that I did. Maine South right here in Illinois.
Obama is Illinois Senator.
Politics are interesting here in Illinois.
I voted. I didnt know who until I walked into the booth. But I did it and Im happy.
Now - onward to watch the results.
Nicki (aka chemosabi)
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Linda
Maybe I should have prefaced my statement with: some commentators at
"Fox news must be blowing a gasket. LOL "
You get me wrong. I am a Fox viewer. Actually, some of my favorite shows are on Fox news network particularly the weekend--I never miss The Beltway Boys. I've been watching Fred Barnes and Morton Kondrake for years even before Fox on PBS on The The McLaughlin Group.
I wasn't questioning the fact that McCain lost west Virginia--I knew that was a given.---Merely commenting how a race that Romney should have won by this caucus selection should wind up in the Huckabee column by
the way caucus candidates are awarded. I found it a fascinating lesson in politics.
Other favorites of mine on Fox
On the Record w/ Greta Van Sustran
The O'Reilly Factor
Your World w/ Neil Cavuto
Cavuto on Business
Forbes on FOX
Geraldo At Large
Plus a few of the shows with Brit Hume
I'm just tired of listening to all this McCain bashing and have little patience for it. I certainly realize that there are moderate voices on Fox and listen to them often. And yes I did catch OReilly giving McCain a pat on the back. Sorry if you were offended.Actually, I'm sick of CNN saying "the Best Political Team On Television" as well.
Who anointed them?
PS. -I am a political junkie--I watch Fox, CNN and MSNBC and BBC America
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Just got Breaking News from CNN that (they predict) Obama wins Georgia!Great start!
Saw my man on the news saying he doesnt expect to WIN, but to do better than expected.(Too polite to say "put a spoke in miss hillary's wheel").I know he WILL! He's been surging bigtime!As a member of his website and campaign, am thrilled at the equipment he made available to us, to help the campaign!(Move On has been great, too.)
I've been singing it all night & day:
We've got high hopes
We've got hiiiigh hopes
We've got high , apple pie in the SKY hopes..
Like a stupid MAN watching a game, I'm watching the coverage of Super Tuesday wearing my team sweatshirt:A dear friend made me a very special Obama '08 shirt--it has a little picture of "Woody, for Vice President," on the sleeve.
(It's not that we didnt try to buy Obama sweatshirts, it's that there!were!none!available! at the website
This was weeks ago!)Hiiiiiighh Hopes....!
Obama is happy going in to this, and so are we, his supporters.
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I heard that Rush Limbaugh said nasty stuff about McCain---best reason I know to vote for McCain!
Now If I can just figure out who I'd choose on the Dem side.
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Joan, all this time, the way you were knocking hillary, I thought you were a republican...
I guess I really do learn something new every day.
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Beth---ROTFWL!!!!!
By the way I'm a registered democrat too.
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Awww Beth,I have been a Demmie since the Kennedy election!Well actually, at 19, in Boston, I wasnt old enough to vote for Kennedy.But my husband sure did, and we attended many neighborhood campaignings by Kennedy!I have been a Demmie all my life!
But I dont like Hillary.Never did, since the first movie, when I voted for Bill IN SPITE of hillary.
Look-you've got poor Susie rolling on the floor.I'll help ya up, Sista!
PS Barack has done wonderfully tonight.Billary is going to have to really sweat it, and scramble to pull this election off.Because the painful rest of the states are not bought, uh, are not hillary states!Look!Barack even won 2 states in billary's firewall!Connecticut REALLY hurt!
From what I read at the site, Barack hoped to "do better than expected.".And I now understand he is too polite to say "take LOTS of delegates away from miss hillary".And hasnt he done this??
Oh, I hope hillary doesnt cry again.
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I haven't read the entire thread here. I had to stop because I felt something that was said was not necessary and insensitive. Here's the quote by Amy:
I hope McCain, if nominated, isn';t pressured to pick a holy roller as his running mate-- I have visions of a McCain/Huckabee ticket and they're frightening. Huckabee seems like a genuinely nice guy, what he wants to do to the country is scary and with a 71 yo president it's not out of the realm of possibilities that the veep could be called to duty.
Isn't Huckabee a Baptist minister? If so, we don't call Baptist's "holy rollers." I try to be sensitive toward your issues. Please realize there may be "holy rollers" on this board. I am, however, not a "holy roller," but I am a Baptist. And, Amy, believe it or not we do have a mind of our own (we Baptists). We really are civilized people.
I cannot see McCain asking Huckabee to be his running mate. The reason is....people like you would definitely not vote for McCain. He's having a hard enough time with his own party. The Hillary haters say they'll vote for McCain, and the McCain haters say they'll vote for Hillary if either one of them should win the nomination. It's a very interesting election year to say the least.
Shirley
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"Okay, those of you who never actually watch Fox news but seem to comment on it, this is what is really going on: First of all,it you actually watch Fox, ......... Secondly, if you really watched Fox news, you would see there are people supporting all the various candidates, not just the conservatives. Yes, guys like Hannity are all about the right wing candidates,........ As for Fox news pulling for Romney........ They even have some really intelligent dems who I love to listen ......Of course you would never know this by just reading the internet blogs that take them out of context and make it seem like they are saying something totally different. ......I challenge you to actually watch Fox news. You might actually learn the truth about the station. The reason they beat everyone else in cable television is because you really do get both sides of the issues. But then again, I guess you only want to hear one side."
Linda, you have another Fox News "watcher" here. You said it all well.
I "snipped" some of your posts inserting........
I believe people would find Fox News as a very honest news station. And, if they make a mistake they'll tell you they made one. Of course, I'm a bit prejudiced towards the "fox news gang."
And when O'Reilly has something on that is controversial (he's not a news anchor guy so he can give his opinons..a bit different than a journalist) he'll have the "others side" on with him to discuss the controversy. I call that "fair and balanced."
Okay, I've admitted that I'm a registered Republican and now I'm admitting I like Fox News.
Shirley
Now I'll go back and finishing reading this thread.
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- 79 DCIS plus HER2-positive Microinvasion
- 529 Genetic Testing
- 2.2K HER2+ (Positive) Breast Cancer
- 1.5K IBC (Inflammatory Breast Cancer)
- 3.4K IDC (Invasive Ductal Carcinoma)
- 1.5K ILC (Invasive Lobular Carcinoma)
- 999 Just Diagnosed With a Recurrence or Metastasis
- 652 LCIS (Lobular Carcinoma In Situ)
- 193 Less Common Types of Breast Cancer
- 252 Male Breast Cancer
- 86 Mixed Type Breast Cancer
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- 189 Palliative Therapy/Hospice Care
- 488 Second or Third Breast Cancer
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- 9 The Political Corner
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- 806 Prayers and Spiritual Support
- 285 Who or What Inspires You?
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- 1K Benign Breast Conditions
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- 586 Alternative Medicine
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- 775 Diagnosed and Waiting for Test Results
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- 50 Immunotherapy - Before, During, and After
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