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hi ladies,,i missed u all so much,,,
dear sue ,,i was on 3# FEC since 3rd of oct,i finished those afull three and will start the taxotere in the 7th of dec also for three #,,then will have 25 RAD after that ,,,god it seems so long way till the end,,,
these are my wonderfull days now after the last #,,i am really worried about the taxotere side effects too,, i tink karyel is in the same # protocol of mine,,, i hope she will do graet ,,,,
dear karyel,,i love ur posts so so much u make my days really ,,i feeel like u r talking exactly the same words that i want to say,,it is really funny to know about ur words salad,,i am suffering really from a problem in expressing myself now,,i just have a white ,blank,empty head suddenly and it is embarresing more wen the words came out in the wroung way no matter how hard u try to take them in the right way,,,,
i have a real pain and swelling in my upper arm ,,it seems LE ,,i feel it bgger but not warm or red ,,just bigger,painfull,,heavy like lead ,,,i dont know how to minimize this pain,,,
love u all
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Here I am ladies! Hi Sue
! And just to let you all know , you're not having chemo brain or anything else when it comes to my avatar , I didn't have one before , it just said honeygirl. Sue , I'm puzzled about the hair. I can't imagine it getting thin but none falling out. Run your hands through your hair and see if it comes out. When mine started falling out , it was everywhere , couch , pillow , brush , drain , everywhere! Well , I'm sure you are fast asleep by now. I think it is midnight there and I know you have to work tomorrow. I hope you have a great day Sue. Good luck with the counting. Hugs and much love to you and your boys.xxx
Hey lisa! Glad to see you ran today. You will be in the zone before you know it. I love your avatar. What a little sweetie.
gb , fishing! I just love fishing. I haven't been in alot of years. But my S/O just bought us some fishing poles. So hopefully this spring we will be fishing! I really just like the sport. I throw them back. And how exciting for your sons. You must be so proud of them.
Hang in there Poppy. Time is the key to recon. healing. I had drains in for a while for the fluid. Did you have any drains? I would ask your doc if there is anything they can do for you.
Hello to everyone else , and I hope you all had a peaceful , healing weekend. xxxx Melody
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Hi Ladies!!
Hello, Melody...my avatar is my 4lb yorkie..Oliver!! He is my little companion. I will be sending you an email soon. Ill include some pics.
I enjoyed my run...my knees are so bad though. I worry..not sure if it's chemo related, or just from not doing it for so long. I splurged and had more pupmkin pie today...yumm...at least it's not one of the high fat/calorie laden pies...haha
If you see above...karyll. I think....mentioned that the type of chemo sue is on, does not cause you to lose your hair, just thins it out! So maybe our Sue will not have the kojak, Uncle fester look! haha
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Rats! I went to the Christmas card list and I am too late to get on it. I would love to send a few more cards so if anyone would like to pm me their snailmail address I will try to send you a card. I say "try" because I am going to Canada in a few days and I am running around like a chook with its head cut off trying to pack, pay bills, and collect my scattered thoughts. I will post the cards before I leave.
Hugs everyone!
gb
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Hi ladies, I am back. Have browsed the posts, but not posted as I have had other issues, but I'm back now.
Poppy, we do have LE specialists in the UK. Ask your oncologist for a referral to a Lymphoedema Nurse Specialist who will give you some exercises to do and train you and your OH in massage techniques to get that lymph fluid to go to other areas of the body. I have LE and have found the improvement remarkable. Hope that helps.
Sue you are amazing - still working and through your chemo. You sound brilliant - even your off days are days when you post and just plough your way through even the most difficult challenges. Give me some of your energy, Sue.
Hey when you meet in Hyde Park for the picnic next spring can you include me? I'll provide the basket of goodies and we can sit by the lake and feed the ducks!!
Love that you are okay, Poppy. Best news in the world.
Shirlann, Fumi did a good job with your photos and what a cruise. You both look like you are enjoying it and having a great time. Just what the doctor ordered I would say. Bet you've come back from that ready to take on the world.
Much love and big hugs - will be back soon.
Valerie S
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Ulla, I had 3 FEC and 3 taxotere. It wasn't pleasant, but I found my hair coming back during taxotere. The first taxotere was the lowest I got and with the second I was definitely on the way "up" before Christmas last year. I then did 25 rads which started in Feb and finished at the beginning of March. Like you I felt that the end would never come, but it does and when I look back now it seems like it was all over in a flash. My thoughts are with you for what seems such an uphill struggle, but one step at a time - don't keep looking at how high the mountain is, just plod on to the next camp and one day the end has snuck up on you
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Much love
Valerie S
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YOO HOOOO XXX
Good evening sisters! I hope you are all having good moments inspite of being in this club...do ya remember that gary glitter song ..dya wann be in my gang my gang my gang...lol...well that is whirling round my head...oh my....I am strange eh..
Well today I worked 8am til 6pm
I think I overdid it but I had to allow for my brain to get round the paperwork...and the lad I worked with this afternoon does not stop yakking... so I ended up counting over and over...and saying "Adam please be quiet for 5 minutes" ...lol
Anyway I went to the garage to buy some fuel on the way home....I could have got it in the morning...I wish I had!!!! On the counter was the evening newspaper with the headlines of two nurses dying of breast cancer a day apart..... my heart sank a million feet.... why are these things sent to try us!!!
My hair is getting thin , I am doing 4 epirubicin first...which is the E in Karylls' FEC ....which means I will lose my hair...the treatment next year is CMF..... so it may grow back....
How do I feel .... really fed up and this is a drag...and I don't want to die.... but hey the roundabout keeps on spinning...and as long as I am travelling fast and keeping ultra distracted I guess it's healthy...and the only way I know how to cope xxxx
My O/H is on nights this week so I may start to dwell when I go to bed.... but as long as I know I have my sisters then I know I am safer .... You to me are everything!!!
And for those of you who have not PM me your addresses for some lil xmas cheer ...get to it ...or I will whip ya asses ....EVERYONE!!
Valerie it is so good to see you... I am thinking of you loads and hope you are living in the moment.... xxxxx
Much Love xxxx
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Hey Sue!!!!!!!!
Sounds like you are in quite the ornary mood!! That is good! Don't worry about the news you saw...can't dwell on that. Yes it is a reality, but you my dear are going to beat this beast just like the rest of us who have and those that are still fighting!
I will pm you my address.
I just got back from the oc a little while ago. She said all blood work looks great...and that if she didn't know better, she would have no idea that I had gone through chemo!! That was good to hear! I don't have to go back to see her for 3 months!! wooohooo!!!!!!!!!!!
xoxo
Lisa
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Anyway I am going for a bath...my nights when I work til 6pm go in a flash and it is like groundhog day every day at work ...lol...
I DON'T WANT TO DIE ....I just am a little haunted lately.... I really need to snap out of it ....sorry sorry sorry xxx
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Great news Lisa ...that's brilliant!!!!
Thanks for your mails last night too ..... Have a lovely day xxx I am going to drown in a radox xxxx
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HELP !! My hair is all over the place..it is coming out in handfuls...I am really trauamtised and my O/H is at work...
I spoke too soon....I hope I hope ...well I am really worried about my wig falling off when I am out....its all too much xxx I HATE THIS STUPID ILLNESS...
I am going to buy punch bag .... I am so cross
xxx
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Oh dear sweet Sue, you are truly a riot, I am going to take this whole thread and write a book! "How Sue's dear friends SHOVED precious Sue through treatment and back to good health!" Now there is a title! I know about the work. It was better for me, too. I just worried at home. When you are at work, you can only think about that, and that is good.
We ALL hate this danged disease, after a lifetime of walking into the docs with a sore throat, and maybe a sore back, getting well in 6 days, we are all spoiled rotten.
I will tell you a story about my last boss. She had a daughter, her 3rd and last child. One day, as we all know the "period" started. This girl was extremely athletic, all sports, and very much the Tom Boy. Well, Dotti was sympathetic, Katie was wailing about what a mess it all was, they went to the drug store, got her all the the stuff and on the way home in the car, Dotti starts to talk to her about different things, accidents at school, first few days, the whole nine yards and Katie literally leaped off the car seat and shouted, "What? You mean this happens every month! I thought it was just once!!!!!.
This is absolutely true! And Dotti and I have laughed about this for all the years since. Poor Katie thought the period happened just once in your life and that was it.
Anyway, that is my laugh for the day, to take your mind off of bootface.
Remember, honey, one step at a time, one day at a time. You will make it and we will all meet at Hyde Park and have a picnic and a hug fest!
Love you, Shirl -
Sue...sorry about the hair...but YOU CAN DO THIS!! I found it kind of liberating when my hair fell out! I still hate the wig, even though everyone says it looks sooooooo good..yuck!! Mine has never fallen off. It has gotten lop sided, but thats about it.
Do you have a g/f that can come over and help you?? Shave your head...if it is that bad. I wish I were there to come over and give you support!! Darn!
Shirlann...thanks for the funny story! Omg...I laughed..and I can just see that young lady...seriously asking that question.
xoxo
Lisa
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Shirlann,
Thank you for your kind words in my pm. I shared this story with Sue as well. I could share it with the world...because it shows how loving our God is.
Sue...u ok?? Darn...I wish I could be there...!!!!!!
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL Shirlann...my dear cybermam...lol....I am a riot and then some....my hair my hair .... OH NO ..... I hate having bad hair day....
I am in the middle of writing some crimbo cards...so if you find any hair when they arrive...you will I hope send it back to me!!! lolol
Lisa...I wish you were here....I really need cheering up!!
I am just going to resort to making a cuppa ...and I am going to assess the state of head in the mirror upstairs... I DON'T WANT TO BE LIKE UNCLE FESTER
brb
Much Love xxx
I am way disgruntled !
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God I love your spunk!! If it is coming out in handfulls...you may want to consider shaving it. Only if it is really falling out fast and full. You could not look like uncle fester...how about demi moore in GI JANE?!
Wow..look at you...doing Christmas cards already...what a girl. I just got together my girls gifts, that I have bought so far, and made my list...got to have a list...I am such a list person..oh my! I told them, this is going to be a very lean Christmas...luckily they are older..and totally understand. It won't be our first lean Christmas! Without getting any child support (damn ex) it makes things a little more difficult.
Oh well...
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hahaha Lisa...
I do lean every christmas until I get my self into such a state that I over spend....I aint doing that this year ...I bought my son a pc for his bday/christmas in October...and my other son I have bought ds lite for...I have told my o/h we will buy something for 'us' this year ...and the rest of my family know with work and treatment it is unlikely I will get round to really shop to drop mode....
Well I am off upstairs to look at damge to the hair....and say goodnight to David...who will make me feel better...."don't wowwy mummy don't wowwy" goodness I love him
brb...
Much Love xxx
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Isnt it amazing how the little ones will always make everything alright!
Let us know how it's going. I am in the midst of making dinner for me and my daughter. Ill check in on you!
xoxo
Lisa
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checking in on our Sue...how is the hair doing??
Let us know, unless you have already gone to bed...if so...sweet dreams!
xoxo
Lisa
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My poor 15 year old.... he reluctantly rubbed my bald head after I had a buzz but he couldn't help himself - he said ohhh it is so soft... and was pleasantly surprised. About 3 weeks later I was talking to him about just school stuff.. and said, now when my hair grows back it might be different; curly, white, thin, thick.. I dunno.
He gave me this look first of shock, then of relief and then he grinned from ear to ear... and said.. "OHHHH mommy (first time he has called me mommy since he was like 6) It's going to grow back?
Then it was my turn for shock - poor kid, talked about all this stuff coming off me, body parts, hair, white cells - neglected to tell him my hair would GROW BACK.
Both my boys internalize so I try to be as up front and open about anything so that I can open the doors for them to feel free to discuss these things with me - fears, worries, excitements, challenges and all this time this poor kid, is thinking I am going to be bald and sick forever.... We haven't talked in great depth about the dying thing yet, because we don't know prognosis really - but I am going to have to be very vey careful when we do. We briefly touched on it, but I told them both not to dwell there and they seem to be okay about that, but I really wonder what their minds are up to - it's hard eh? But they seem interested and fairly upbeat (16 and 20) and have grown accustomed to my overly high forehead.. *Grin*...
Sweet dreams to those sleeping, sweet moments to those awake.
Karyll
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Hi Sue
! I'm so sorry your hair is falling out. This was one of the most upsetting things to me. Lisa is right , if you have a friend who could come over and shear your head , it really helps. My hair really "hurt" at the stage you are at. But after my girlfriend buzzed me it really relieved the pain. I sooooo hate this disease. My friend that buzzed my hair , is one of my best friends. We met in junior high. Been through alot together kinda friend. And she always gave my perms or cut my hair for me over the years. Well , on the Sunday that my hair needed buzzed , she was there for me. It was really weird. A sudden calm came over me , I said ok , lets do this. Her hands started shaking and she stopped , and said this is so hard for me , and she broke down crying , and I comforted her! Thats really when I started concentrating on "one day at a time." I knew I could get through each day. And that would be another day behind me. I think your wig will be ok. Tighten the tabs on it to fit snug. With me and my job , I am always on the move , I perfered a scarf. I could tighten it up and didn't have to worry. I had to be comfortable. I think I had my wig on maybe four times! I wish I was there with you too Sue. Know I am in my heart always. Its ok to be angry. I was. ##$##% bootface! Another hill on the roller coaster. Hang tight sweet sister. I hope you are asleep now. Remember , another day is behind you.xxxx Melody
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Hi Karyll , thanks for sharing with us about your sons. Oh , I am soooo glad I have a son , except for the fact , with him , it is like pulling teeth to get him to talk about things at times. Being a "girl" , and being with my nieces as they were growing up , us girls talk about everything. Boys on the other hand... He did ask me about my prognosis , just before my surgery. And was anxious to hear my path report after my surgery. So I make it a point to tell him things instead of waiting for him to ask. And that seems to open him up a little. Yea , I think they are ok with stuff like "bald mom" because they love us no matter what! But sometimes I wonder to what he is thinkin'. Hugs to you and your boys.xxxx Melody
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Oh Sue, I can just hear your little fellow, how sweet, how sweet. What would we do without them?
Don't worry about your hair, honey, it will grow back. And some gals like the new hair better. Better texture. Don't worry sweetie, you are you, hair or no hair.
I would shave it. I would refuse to let it hurt you by falling out in clumps. Screw the hair! Lop it off! Then, you are so pretty, I know you will look just fine. Some of the gals look better in their wigs. We had a Southern Calif. luncheon last month, and one of the gals had a sorta short do with beautiful streaks, and I almost asked her who did it, when she said it was a wig. Literally, my mouth dropped open, I had no idea. Could not tell at all.
So get by this hump, lovey.
Love you, Shirlann (And kiss those sweet boys for me) -
I'm so sorry that the hair thing has you so upset, Sue. I've never liked my hair, so losing it wasn't a huge, traumatic thing. You have nice hair, so of course you're feeling more of a loss. When I was at the point where you are, my scalp hurt so badly. It was a relief to have it shaved off. I guarantee that you'll feel better if you do the same. Having it fall out by the handfuls is such a nasty mess. I'm with Shirlann. Take the control back and whack it off!!
Your boys sound so sweet. My Chase is such a loveable little guy. My daughter just never was as sweet or affectionate. She's her daddy's girl. Now she get jealous when her brother crawls on my lap and snuggles with me. She actually tries to do the same thing---but she almost weighs as much as I do! Ouch!!! And she has a boney behind!!
Take care, Sue! You'll get through this. Your hair will come back in even more beautiful.
Love and hugs,
Karen
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Oh--forgot to mention that my son LOVES my bald head. He rubs it and cracks up! He also gets a kick out of trying on my wigs, scarves, and hats.
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Good advice from all of your friends here Sue!! I know you are sleeping now, and that is where I need to go...5:45am comes very quickly!!
Melody....your scenario with the head shaving sounds very much like mine. My dear friend of 47 yrs came over with her sheers to shave my head, when it was at that point..falling out, and painful. She then offered for me to shave her head first, if that would help me get through my hair loss!!! What a friend!! I am so fortunate!! She is one of a kind. Of course we both cried, and hugged, but I told her...I love her, and thanks...but I can do this. When she shaved my head...I did not shed a tear. And I had great hair...but it was very liberating.
It's great that we have such incredible women friends to be there for us. That same friend went with me to all 8 of my tx's!! Sue...we are all here for you too...anyway that you need us! We love you!
Good night ladies...Karen, Sue and Karyll...give those boys hugs and kisses!!
I only have 1 left at home and she is 16...
...time flies!
xoxo
Lisa
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Hello to all my girls!!
Sue...I figured about now, you will be getting in from work. How was your day?? How is the hair? I am at work now...so I will be checking to see how you are.
I hope all of you lovely ladies are having a wonderful day!!
xoxo
Lisa
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Hello Everyone.... xxx
Just got in from work..I left half hour earlier to avoid rush hour .... it's rush hour every hour in Bolton!! .....Roll on the Xmas hols...It takes me half hour less each way without all the traffic from the school runs...
Well.....BIG HEAVY SIGHS tonight....xx
I dun't want lose all my hair damn stupid ugly bootface....I haven't shaved it yet.... I just might get away with not losing it all....just couple more days ...I think.... I will feel so much worse bout it if I see my head every day...I will have to put my wig on without looking in the mirror...and hope for the best...lol...... OH MY ..... I never ever ever wanted this...why is life so punishing at times....I have tried my hardest to be good!!!
I am going to make a cuppa....cuppas cuppas...thats all I resort to ...lol....and if you were all in my cosy house I would make you all a nice lil cuppa....and we could all have lots of chatter and laugh for ages as if nothing matters....
Claudia phoned today...(you know I don't want to be in Claudias club b/c nurse but she's ever so kind) ....well she's been leaving me voicemails all week...that I havent returned....they have really frustrated me as work in the only place I can escape this thing....so I have been cursing her...but felt a bit guilty after the 8th voicemail so I rang her back.....she is going to see if she can get me in a nearer hospital for treatment as I have to trek to Manchester....TBH I don't really mind...God she's so nice...I wish she wasn't linked to this thing...well I am waffling...lol....one of the nurses phoned from christies and offered me a 400 grant if I would cut my hours at work....but I don't want to...I just want to be as normal as possible....
I am waffling ...I will go for my bath LOL.....and shurrup ma face which is going to take me longer to wash when it gets bigger!!
Much Love xxx
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...it is so lovely to hear about all your children...we mothers speak the same lol.... I would be lost without David and Daniel...me and David are like two peas in a pod...he is my best mate...and has been of great support...I never burden them but am open honest and very humouros ....they are so strong....I am aware of their darker moments and always reassure them....
I just want to be around forever with them...but in all reality in a normal world this would be an impossibility...unless I were immortal...so that is how I am rationing these lucid thoughts at the moment... I would feel just as sad ANY age at leaving them ...and one day that ANY age will happen.... nothing morbid ...just reality I guess...and trying to readdress the balance in my hectic mind ...
OK I will shurrup before my cuppa tea stews.....ewwwwwwww
Much Love xxx
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