Anyone want to sit and wait with me?

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  • ColleenS80
    ColleenS80 Member Posts: 271
    edited August 2018

    Amica, I noticed my PET/CT from my initial diagnosis didn’t look at my brain either. At least I don’t think it did-it says “mid-thigh to base of skull.” I’m going to ask my onc at next apt why we didn’t look at my brain, esp as triple positive likes to go to the brain.

  • Amica
    Amica Member Posts: 488
    edited August 2018

    Colleen,

    That's a good question to ask your onc. I think they base it on if you have symptoms, like headaches, vision changes.

    My onc and I debated whether or not to do a brain CT, and first she said yes definitely. I have a lot of headaches, but it's not new. And all this radiation, I wanted to reduce it; she kind of left it up to me which is kind of scary. She said we could always do it later on if indicated.

    An article in PubMed states that "It is generally accepted that MRI (contrast enhanced) is superior to CT scan (contrast enhanced) in the diagnosis of brain metastases" so I don't know why CT is always being done instead, they are saving money again I guess.

    Inclusion of Brain scanning for cancer patients

    How did the Rads experience go for you?

  • WC3
    WC3 Member Posts: 1,540
    edited August 2018

    Amica:

    I'm glad to hear your oncologist is willing to work with you to get the PET. I hope it yields some good news. One clinic I originally went to gave me a hard time about getting an outside order for an MRI when their own facility was booked for three weeks and their own radiologists were saying I needed the MRI within 14 days.

  • Gudrun
    Gudrun Member Posts: 140
    edited August 2018

    Dear Colleen, I've just been reading through your thread and am very sorry for the insecurities you've had to deal with.

    Maybe I missed that, but was the remaining tissue rediagnosed as to percentage of ER and PR, or if it was still HER2, or if Ki67 has changed ...

    My daughter also had residual tumor tissues. But HER2 had disappeared, Ki had decreased considerably, and HR status had nearly remained the same.

    She was told by her oncologists that TP didn't usually get pcr since driven by estrogene, which didn't mean a worse prognosis than HER2+, HR-, together with a pcr.

    Best wishes Gudrun

  • ColleenS80
    ColleenS80 Member Posts: 271
    edited August 2018

    Amica, I was actually reading that very article last night haha. It is a hard decision when they leave it up to us. I understand your hesitation in more exposure but also wanting to know if anything’s going on. A bunch of crappy choices we shouldn’t have to make.

    Gunrun, thanks so much. My tumor was not retested when it was removed because my onc said it would not change my treatment plan. I understand what she’s saying but it would still give me peace of mind to see what changes may have occurred. Thanks for sharing what your daughter’s onc said about TP not usually getting complete response-that is encouraging.

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited August 2018

    Weird. I posted, I saw the post, and now it's disappeared. It had jokes and everything.

    I will join you on the waiting side of the waiting room. I have a nuclear medicine bone/joint scan next week. I'm probably still experiencing effects from the chemo port, which was hard on me, but it's getting worse over time. It's probably still that, but 3 members of my BCO chemo cohort (that I know of) have mets or recurrences, so it seems stupid not to get imaging. I want an eval for mets to the clavicle before I use more aggressive treatment, like acupuncture, for the pain.

  • ColleenS80
    ColleenS80 Member Posts: 271
    edited August 2018

    ksusan-that's happened to me before too! (The post being seen but then disappearing.) So annoying.

    I don't blame you for wanting to get it checked out to be sure. I am sending lots of hope and love and prayers and crossed fingers for good news from your scan!

    In the meantime, welcome to our waiting room. The waiting sucks a$$, but the company's great. 🤷🏻❤️


  • Amica
    Amica Member Posts: 488
    edited August 2018

    Colleen, actually after reading that article, I thought about it and phoned my onc and asked if she could order an MRI of my head and ---ta da! -- she actually agreed to order one. Because I do have daily headaches, so just for the peace of mind.

    Ksusan, Greetings. Sounds like you are doing the right thing. Hey, and scroll up if you want to check out our poolboys. Apparently our waiting room has a pool lol :)

  • ColleenS80
    ColleenS80 Member Posts: 271
    edited August 2018

    Amica, I’m glad you will have the MRI so you can have peace of mind! Let us know when it’s scheduled. ❤️


  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited August 2018

    Thank you. I know all about the pool boiz & grrlz. That's why I picked this facility.

  • ColleenS80
    ColleenS80 Member Posts: 271
    edited August 2018
  • oxygen18
    oxygen18 Member Posts: 164
    edited August 2018

    Just dropping by this great "facility" to say hi, even though I I'm off in the forest yonder, I'm thinking of each of you, waiting with you, hoping for the best possible outcomes, and meanwhile, enjoying this resort-like environment which has just about any features one might wish for. Being a BC survivor (as we all are) can have its perks :)

    Colleen, how are your eyes doing?

  • ColleenS80
    ColleenS80 Member Posts: 271
    edited August 2018

    hey oxygen!

    Are you on vacation somewhere?

    So, I’ve been wearing my glasses way more than my contacts lately...it’s just easier/lazy through all my treatments. I usually wear my contacts almost all the time. My glasses are quite a bit older than my contact prescription, and when I thought about that, I put my contacts in yesterday to see if I noticed the same bluriness I’d been experiencing—I did not! So, I think it’s probably just that my eyes have gotten a bit worse and my glasses need updating. I know chemo can change vision, so I wouldn’t be surprised if it messed mine up a little more. I’m relieved though-I was convinced for a few days that I had brain mets causing blurry vision. 🤦🏻♀️ Every new little thing is mets now! Will we always be so scared?

    ANyway, thanks for checking. :) If you are on vacation I hope it’s glorious!

  • Amica
    Amica Member Posts: 488
    edited August 2018

    My bone scan's tomorrow. sigh. Then MRI, then PET (if it is approved.) I guess I will be in the waiting room a lot. I send you all greetings and wishes for a good week :)

    Colleen, glad that your vision improved with contacts, so that you'd not have to worry that blurry vision meant something ominous!


  • oxygen18
    oxygen18 Member Posts: 164
    edited August 2018

    Just got hold of an aerial view of our luxurious "facility" and I am hanging around right here with you all, mostly exploring the surrounding woods.

    Am impressed we now even have Yoda as a resident guest.

    Colleen, glad there was a non-worrisome explanation for your eye issues, and that anyhow the heavy chemo is now completed.

    Amica, I hope tomorrow and the following weeks bring reassuring news!

    Ksusan, so sorry about the bone pain, glad u r having it checked out. Sure hope it's just port related, I had multiple issues with my port. Jokes ecstatically welcome whenever u can find them again :)

    Isn't our facility grand.

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  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited August 2018

    Let us know how it goes, Amica.

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited August 2018

    Thinking of you Amica,

    Let us know how your scan goes!

    Hugs

  • Amica
    Amica Member Posts: 488
    edited August 2018

    Thanks all -- I appreciate the support. I found the bone scan claustrophobic when that thing was positioned about 2 millimeters from my nose--I closed my eyes and tried to meditate. Helped a little.

    Our waiting room is starting to look like a resort ! ;)

  • ColleenS80
    ColleenS80 Member Posts: 271
    edited August 2018

    oxygen, what a lovely aerial view. Instead of a nurse coming out and calling us to go back to see the dr, one of our pool boys/girls comes out with a towel and a margarita. “Take your time, dry off and sip this drink while you wait on the doctor! When they come in, they will have all ofthe answers to all of your questions.”

    Amica, I hate those claustrophobic machines. I feel that way when the rads machine gets right in my face. How long do you have to wait for results? I hope it’s not terribly long. 🤞


  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited August 2018

    I close my eyes and, if it's noisy (like an MRI), throw a bass line and tune over that percussion noise.

  • InnaB2018
    InnaB2018 Member Posts: 1,276
    edited August 2018

    The scans usually don’t bother me. Like Melvin the Giraffe from Madagascar, I always fall asleep during them. It’s the waiting for the results that sucks big time. Well, right now I am waiting for the side effects from my second Taxol to go away. Day 6, so the deliverance is near... Where is my pool boy with the drink? Although all I could do rightnow is just look at him, whoever he is...

  • ColleenS80
    ColleenS80 Member Posts: 271
    edited August 2018

    ksusan, how is it that I’m a music teacher and never thought to turn that MRI racket into a percussion line?! 😂 Probably bc they usually make me nervous, but I’m getting so used to them that on my next one, this will be my goal. 👌

    Inna, you should take a well-deserved nap today and dream about looking at all those lovely pool boys.


  • Amica
    Amica Member Posts: 488
    edited August 2018

    Colleen, the oncologist phoned and said the bone scan was negative for signs of metastasis. So, good news on that front. How are rads going?

    During the scan, I did a silent "nam-myoho-renge-kyo",the classic Buddhist mantra, intermixed with visualizing ocean waves breaking on the shore. According to Hinduism, a silent chant, called Mansikj-Japa, chanting internally with the mind & no movement of lips or tongue, is even more effective than chanting out loud. I certainly hope so, it's very hard to stay immobile for 15 minutes!

    Inna, I'm hoping your side effects abate, and you feel better!



  • ColleenS80
    ColleenS80 Member Posts: 271
    edited August 2018

    Amica, yay! So glad the bone scan was clear!! Hoping the good news continues!!

    Rads are ok. Just counting down the days. :)



  • InnaB2018
    InnaB2018 Member Posts: 1,276
    edited August 2018

    Amica, so happy to hear your good news! So it’s just 3 lymph nodes, right? Maybe they will be able to do a wide excision and then some rads in that case? God bless you

  • Amica
    Amica Member Posts: 488
    edited August 2018


    Thanks Colleen, InnaB :)

    Apparently it is still unclear how many lymph nodes are involved. I will have the MRI of the brain on Labor Day of all days.

    May all your waiting be as peaceful as possible :)

  • couragement
    couragement Member Posts: 114
    edited August 2018

    Amica! Just read the good news! Great to hear about the negative bone scan. Delighted to know. Any PET scans in the future? Or are they working off this and the other previous scan? So glad you have a brain MRI on the schedule. Finally answers are arriving. I know they are slow to do so, but thank goodness appointments are on the books.

    Sending much love your way!!

  • ksusan
    ksusan Member Posts: 4,505
    edited August 2018

    Amica, yay!

    Colleen, Mickey Hart's album Planet Drum is my model for MRI percussion!

  • Amica
    Amica Member Posts: 488
    edited August 2018

    Heeeyyyyy Couragement !

    How is life going port-less?

    Yes very slowly they are getting the tests done. My onc is applying for "special access" for me to get a PET-CT scan, because the Ontario government healthcare system will not fund PET-CT scans for breast cancer--which I still find disgraceful. She said it takes about a week to find out if you are approved, and then a couple of weeks delay to get the test. If the application is turned down and they frequently are, there is one private clinic that I can pay for one out--of-pocket. PET-CT is standard of care everywhere in the world and in the rest of the Canada; I don't know what is wrong with Ontario.

    I predicted that despite finding the lump in mid-June, I wouldn't start treatment until September, October--- unfortunately it looks like I will be right.

    Amica

  • ColleenS80
    ColleenS80 Member Posts: 271
    edited August 2018

    Hey friends.

    I need a good cry today. Dunno if it’s starting the Zoladex/Arimidex, or just emotional. I’ve been working on controlling my anxiety and I feel like I’m doing better with that, but now I’m just feeing this overwhelming sadness. Today I just feel convinced that I’m going to end up at stage four, and they just haven’t found it yet or it’s just a matter of time. I hope it’s just my emotions and not a premonition. The uncertainty of this disease is maddening.

    I’m on Zoloft and I’ve started seeing a therapist, so I’m doing everything I can. Just feel like whining and being sad today. I hope you don’t mind me sharing it with you all; I know you understand. I think my husband just thinks I’m being pessimistic when I get this way. And I hate to burden him with my sadness because I know it makes him anxious too.

    So, crying in the waiting room today. I’ll gladly accept hugs, crying partners, and strong drinks. ❤️


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