How and when did you tell your kids?

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ps0705
ps0705 Member Posts: 122
edited December 2017 in Just Diagnosed

So many questions!

I'm dreading telling my kids. Diagnosed 11/21 with core biopsy. 4/7 samples cancer. Not staged yet.

Diagnosis so far- DCIS Nuclear grade 3 progesterone negative, estrogen negative.

I really want to live in denial so I don't have to tell them. We have a son in college and a 12 year old daughter who is unfortunately in the throes of some middle school mean girl stuff (excluded, kids now leaving the table when she sits down) . I just don't see I can add this to her plate.

Does anyone have any advice on how and when to tell them? Thanksgiving was difficult but we didn't tell them since we don't know tx plan yet and didn't want them forever associating Thanksgiving with my diagnosis.

Thanks for reading


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  • anotherNYCGirl
    anotherNYCGirl Member Posts: 1,033
    edited November 2017

    Your prognosis in excellent, - dont rush into telling them until you have more info and a followup plan! They will handle it well if YOU do! Stay positive!

    My children were about the same ages when I was first diagnosed, and I was able to visit college parents weekend, make birthday parties, and I was 'mother of the bride' soon after chemo started, too.

    Dcis probably wont require chemo. You'll see, - you'll be FINE!!

  • TarheelMichelle
    TarheelMichelle Member Posts: 871
    edited November 2017

    I wanted to share my thoughts because it was the week before Christmas when I was diagnosed Stage IV. That made two discussions I had with my son. He was 9 when I was Stage I and 13 at Stage IV. I think it's a good idea to wait until treatment is set. These days, breast cancer isn't a death sentence, but kids don't know that. Lots of explaining ahead. As much as you'd like to avoid it, you need to be the person who tells them. Use the word cancer. Kids live in the moment, and you may have to educate them on how things will go in the months ahead. My son's concern was that because I had cancer, he might find me in bed one morning, deceased. I had to explain that people who die from breast cancer don’t die suddenly.

    It helps if you can process your own grief (as much as you can) before telling them. I promised my son I would never hide any progression news from him. We saw a counselor a few times, and it helped us process the life changes that accompany a breast cancer diagnosis.

    This can be a time of relationship building with your daughter. Being ignored by peers hurts; the best version of herself is the person who can have a happy day regardless of lunch partners. You and she are in similar circumstances — don't let the problems you face steal your joy.

    Remember, it's YOUR health news; not theirs. It doesn't have to ruin the holidays. One possibility is to tell them at the beginning of Christmas break, so you can be near them: “I have some news about my health to share. I don't want Christmas to be just about this. I want us to do fun things, like we always do, and let's focus on enjoying each other. I might seem sad at times, and that might make you feel sad, and that's normal. But we should try to have fun, because I'm your mom and I love you." Let them make choices. Do they want to choose a movie? That's how my family relaxed. I made sure my son wasn't trying to play the part of “Poor me, my mom has cancer." I reminded him there were moms a lot sicker than me, whose kids were making Honor Roll, etc.

    It's different discussing your breasts with a son versus a daughter. I thought through how to explain what was going to happen. “They will take the tumor out. It i tiny, the size of a peanut." That's about all he cared to know. I think it was important for me to tell everyone that they could ask me questions. That way, I didn't overshare, but people could ask me if they were curious. People outside the breast cancer community may assume that everyone has a mastectomy, or everyone has chemo. If you have chemo, it may help to share some then and now photos of other patients with your kids. To show them that hair does grow back.

    If you can afford, plan a special event to celebrate a treatment milestone. Some nonprofits provide family vacations for moms going through breast cancer treatment.

    This topic is close to my heart. My son was post-divorce, and he had to live temporarily with his dad during the first months of my Stage IV diagnosis. We honestly didn't know how long I had to live. I know those fears may be weighing on you. Don't let them stay in your mind for long. You and your kids have a lot of living to do. I wish you the best possible outcome — many more years of good health.

  • RedemptiveSufferer
    RedemptiveSufferer Member Posts: 242
    edited November 2017

    PS, I don't know that I could add anything to what Tarheel Michelle and anotherNYCGirl have said - they offer excellent advice. My children were 12, 11, & 7 when I shared the news with them. I felt like I had dropped a bomb on them because I didn't have a treatment plan in place to let them know what the future would look like. After telling them of my diagnosis and fumbling for the right words, I simply told them, "It's not contagious" and changed the subject! It was early Nov. and we were quickly headed for the holidays. All I can say is I did it "all wrong" so learn from my mistakes. :-) Get a treatment plan, be truthful, knowing that your prognosis is excellent! Also, I like the point that TM made: this could be the very thing that gets your daughter to take her focus off of the mean girls as she focuses more on you. My children became extremely understanding and supportive in their own way after I told them of my diagnosis. Who knows, BC may give her a cause to rally behind and she'll begin to ignore the middle school drama. God bless you as you move forward! ~ Kim

  • ps0705
    ps0705 Member Posts: 122
    edited November 2017

    NYCgirl- thank you so much for your positive reply. After I got the hormone receptor status I felt like it was another punch. I appreciate it.

    Michelle-thank you for sharing your advice. You are amazing and I really appreciate your suggestions and will follow your footsteps.

    Kim - thank you for sharing and your honesty of how you told your kids. Also for helping me to see that this could hopefully help my daughter put the middle school drama into perspective.

    I'm so relived that this forum is here. It would be a lonely and anxious situation to be in without people like yourselves.




  • Binniebin
    Binniebin Member Posts: 87
    edited November 2017

    PS, as a mum my first thoughts were the kids. Ours are older, 18, 20, 23. My 18 yr old was close to starting his final school exams. This made it easy for us to decide when to tell them. I had biopsy, lumpectomy and all results aside from her2. When we had a treatment plan we told them which meant we were less uptight than at the start. It was a month before major exams so he had time to digest the info. We also discussed that counselling was available to all of them aside from family and friends to talk to. I have 2 siblings who have had very treatable cancer years ago and my FIL passed away in feb After 8 years of tmt for cancer. So I discussed that mine is treatable but that it's not 100% cure rate. if you know anyone that has had cancer you may be able to use them as an example. When my FIL was diagnosed, kids were much younger so we gave them info in little parts. Good luck with eve

  • Binniebin
    Binniebin Member Posts: 87
    edited November 2017

    ...everything!


  • NotVeryBrave
    NotVeryBrave Member Posts: 1,287
    edited November 2017

    My kids were 15, 13, and 10 when I was diagnosed. I got the news on a Monday afternoon and told the kids at dinner on Tuesday (after I had met with the BS earlier in the day and told my parents). I tried to be very "matter of fact" about it and positive, but I did end up crying. But you know what? That's okay.

    I would say share small amounts at a time and let them know they can ask you more. A lot of kids don't have the dread understanding of cancer that we do. I think it's just important to be honest.

    I also contacted the guidance counselors at each school and had them notify the teachers - just in case problems with grades or behavior came up. My youngest did meet with her's shortly before my surgery because that was upsetting her. It helped a lot.


  • Shellsatthebeach
    Shellsatthebeach Member Posts: 316
    edited November 2017

    I have three children at the time of diagnosis ages 16, 13 and 11. The two oldest are sons and youngest is my daughter. I was dreading the fact I would need to tell them after hiding it until I found out all the information I needed. My oldest has bipolar so I was nervous that this news could have a negative impact on his mental health. My daughter (youngest) too struggles with pre-teen mean girl stuff and was feeling lonely after her best friend stopped talking to her. I ordered T-shirts that said Team (last name). Then I had them open the boxes and made it into a conversation how we would team together to get through this. My oldest burst out into tears and panic, my youngest started to cry and my middle looked like a deer in the headlights. I then asked if they had questions and I was fine. I made sure to reassure them I wasn't going to die with a time line. I educated them that the kind of cancer I had (BC) offered treatments, so I could get on with living. They've been fine ever since. I try to keep the communication lines open as much as possible. I try to keep the information I give them simple so they can understand it.

  • ps0705
    ps0705 Member Posts: 122
    edited November 2017

    Thank you Binniebin, Notverybrave and Shellsatthebeach. Your replies are so helpful as we plan how to let them know.

    NotVerybrave - how in the heck did you get a surgeons appt the day after your biopsy? I'm going on a week here because of Thanksgiving and it's truly driving me crazy. Biopsy was last Monday. Tuesday afternoon got results and every.single.surgeon. has been closed since. I couldn't even call to schedule because they've all been closed. So Im guessing it'll be another week before I get in for an appointment. ugh.

  • NotVeryBrave
    NotVeryBrave Member Posts: 1,287
    edited November 2017

    My OB/GYN's require that all of their patients needing a biopsy see a BS beforehand so I had met her already. She had gone over my scans with me and examined me. I had to ask and she said she was 95% sure it was cancer.

    So she was the one who called me 4 days after the biopsy to give me the news. And she told me to come in to see her the following morning to discuss the report.

    I'm realizing now what a help that requirement of the OB/GYN was!


  • VL22
    VL22 Member Posts: 851
    edited November 2017

    I told my kids , 13 and 15 boys, the day of diagnosis and before anyone else, except my husband. We sat them down and I cried. They were in shock. We assured them I’d be ok. My older son stayed home from school the next day feeling sick. After surgery when I got the news that I had another tumor and it was TN, I was devastated. I waited until I could be calm and told them a more aggressive tumor was found and I’d need chemo - before this wasn’t going to happen. I dont share my fears with them and if I’m gong to have a good cry, they won’t see it. My prognosis is good - I share this.

    We’ve been very honest with them throughout and we’re very happy that we have. They’ve really stepped up to the plate. It makes me so proud that we’re raising such fine young men.

  • Herculesmulligan
    Herculesmulligan Member Posts: 175
    edited November 2017

    My kids were 16 and 17 when I was diagnosed. They knew I'd had a biopsy and was waiting for the results ( which I was sure would be negative ). So I found out after dinner on a Thursday. My husband wanted to wait until wed processed for awhile, but I just couldn't.

    I was raised in a family with a father with lcancer. For four years we didn't discuss his treatment or prognosis because it was too upsetting. So I always felt bewildered by what was going on. I was 11 when he died and it caught me completely off guard, even though he'd been sick for 4 years, because no one ever talked about it.

    So we sat our kids down and told them I had breast cancer. We all cried. I promised I'd never withhold information or lie to them about my illness. So far they seem to be dealing pretty well. My son shares more with his friends which was a surprise. My daughter holds more in.

  • meg2016
    meg2016 Member Posts: 287
    edited November 2017

    Where I had treatment they also had a family support counselor come talk to me. She helped me create a script for talking to the kids and also let me know some of the things they've learned about how kids receive the news. She also gave us a great kit including a couple of kids books on a parent with cancer, a small stuffed toy, a journal with colored pencils, some other small things in it. My kids were 8 and 12. The best advice I got from her was:

    1) Practice the script ahead of time. Literally rehearse it and if you need to, read it (or at least have bullet points written out.) Its emotional and hard to get through without crying, this will help.

    2) Anticipate their questions and answer them before they ask (and even if they don't ask they are likely wondering) which include:

    `- Who will take care of us while you are sick?

    - Will you die?

    - Will you lose your hair?

    - Can I get it (like a cold) or will I get it when I am older?

    - Who are people I can talk to about this if I have questions or am scared but don't feel like I can talk to you? (it helps if you have a list of other family members you've told or family friends, even a school counselor or a teacher.)

    - Be honest, but you don't need to provide too much detail right up front. The detail can unfold as you find out. Its ok to say we don't know everything right now, but we will share it when we know it.

    I dreaded the conversation with my kids but it was such a relief when I had it and honestly, they suspect something is up, they are super perceptive, so sooner than later would be my advice.

  • ps0705
    ps0705 Member Posts: 122
    edited November 2017

    Thank you. I can't believe that I still haven't told them. It's been 9 days and I still don't have an action plan or know what's up. Dr's offices can't get me in yet because of the stupid holiday season and I was told they are now booking surgeries in January. WTH?! By that time my whole diagnosis can escalate. Sorry I need to vent - this is so overwhelming and then to be put on hold for soooo long.

  • samp7
    samp7 Member Posts: 17
    edited November 2017

    From the date I was first diagnosed (11/7) to the date of my upcoming surgery (12/7) is exactly a month. But each week between those two dates felt like an eternity. I understand exactly how you feel, and I'm just so sorry you're dealing with this. I think once you have gathered all the information and have a plan of treatment, it'll be easier to tell the kids. I started by saying, "This is going to sound scary, but everything is going to be fine." My son was home from college when I told him the day after Thanksgiving. Sending you a cyber hug. Hang in there.

  • ps0705
    ps0705 Member Posts: 122
    edited November 2017

    Thank you for responding to my rant ;) I'm glad you were able to get in quickly and best wishes for an uncomplicated recovery.

    I'm grade 3 and TN and something I read on the internet said those tumors double every 90 days which true or untrue is adding to my exasperation with not being scheduled for surgery until Jan.

  • Jumpship
    Jumpship Member Posts: 305
    edited March 2019

    ps-hang in there. It was nearly 3 months from diagnosis to surgery for me. Our center had art therapy for kids. My 10 year old felt it helped. My 13 year old dropped out of school during cjemo

  • ps0705
    ps0705 Member Posts: 122
    edited November 2017

    Thank you for your response. How are you doing now and your kids?

  • Annette47
    Annette47 Member Posts: 957
    edited November 2017

    Just now seeing this, but it really resonated because I had gotten the news two days before Thanksgiving .... 5 years ago. I didn’t tell anyone until after Thanksgiving because my mom was celebrating having just recovered from a mastectomy and I didn’t want to bring her down (her diagnosis was what prompted me to get a mammogram).

    My kids were 12 and 9 at the time and what I told them was (this was based on the DCIS as I hadn’t known about the micro invasion yet), that I had cancer but “not the kind that can kill you - but because it could eventually turn into that kind we need to treat it”. They were fine with that explanation and really didn’t ask too many questions or get too upset. I just tried to keep things as normal as I could for them. The older one eventually asked if it meant that she would get it too (so explained that not necessarily but that since she would be at higher risk she would need to be checked from an earlier age), and the younger one asked if it had been removed with surgery what was the radiation for. Fortunately she had just learned about cells in school, so it made an explanation easy. I don’t think they asked anything else.

  • Lula73
    Lula73 Member Posts: 1,824
    edited November 2017

    PS-My DH & I waited to tell anyone til we had a treatment plan in place. Was it hard not to say anything? Yes. Was it hard to hide the obvious biopsy spot and bruising from my mom & sister on 2 different girls’ trips? Yes. But it was much more reassuring for them (and easier to tell the news for us) having all the pieces of the diagnosis and treatment puzzle put in place. The reassurance is what your kids will need the most seven you tell them. Having as few “open ended” questions that you can’t answer at that moment but if you waited another week or so til your appointment you would have the answer to it dangling as possible is important. Inevitably that would be the question they would ask. You need to have all the answers you can. And be positive and confident in your responses and when you give the news-they pick up quickly on our worry or when we’re fibbing a little. The question that absolutely will come up in some fashion will be about dying. My advice? Remind them that we will all die one day-it’s part of life after all. But that you have no intention of going anytime soon. Ad-lib that based on your needs. Good luck to you!

  • ps0705
    ps0705 Member Posts: 122
    edited November 2017

    Annette - congratulations on your 5 year anniversary. sorry yours was over Thanksgiving too. That must have been really hard balancing your news with your mothers.

    Lula - I think you and the others are correct about waiting until I have a plan.

    I'm now realizing just how painstaking waiting for surgery is so have decided to tell our kids only 2-3 days before surgery so they don't spend a month worrying. Just a day or 2 and then the surgery will be done.


  • DanceSmartly
    DanceSmartly Member Posts: 69
    edited December 2017

    Hi ps:

    DD is 12 and DS is 10. I told them about 2 weeks after I was diagnosed, when I still had two weeks to go before my surgery (6 days to go now!). My thinking was that it might be easier for them to get used to the idea that I would be going into the hospital for surgery rather than suddenly disappearing on them.

    I tried to be very matter-of-fact and not make a big deal out of it but not hide anything either. I have had two other surgeries in the last three years, one of which was emergency, so my kids know that Mom will come home from the hospital. They are also somewhat familiar with the "C" word as my father has been battling Stage IV prostrate cancer since 2009 and my mother-in-law just finished treatment for Stage II endometrial cancer this past summer. (Sidenote: cancer sucks and can stop messing with our family anytime now.)

    I was a bit surprised at their reactions. I thought DD would be most upset, but she only asked one question (related to breast cancer searches on our internet browser - these tech-savvy kids terrify me!) and has been pretty quiet since. She tells me she Ioves me a lot and hugs me a lot. DS, on the other hand, has had a million questions, the first of which was, "Are you going to die?". (My answer: "No, not for a long time because we are going to do all the things we need to do to kill this cancer!") He wanted to feel the cancer, tried to figure out how different it is from the cancers his grandparents have, and had a long debate with himself about whether he should tell his friends at school or not. I just let him talk and tried to answer his questions as honestly and factually as I could.

    I visited each of their teachers as well as the school front office. I told them that I would be away from home for medical treatment for considerable lengths of time in 2018 as I will have to travel 2 hours one way for surgery and chemo (if needed) and 5 hours one way for rads. I asked them to please keep an eye on our kids and let us know if they are struggling or overly emotional during the remainder of the school year. I also phoned the mother of my daughter's BFF and let her know about my upcoming treatment, so that she can help her daughter support DD when I am gone.

    I totally understand your concerns about middle-school mean girls, as DD is the same age as your daughter. Fortunately, DD has an awesome BFF now, but she spent the first five years of elementary school with no good friends at all. It's tough to see them struggle.

    Dance



  • ps0705
    ps0705 Member Posts: 122
    edited December 2017

    Thank you Dance. It sounds like you and your family are on the right track.

    I got my surgical date set (2 and 1/2 weeks away) and we told our kids this morning. They handled it surprisingly well so far. Our 19 yo son was emotional but asked intuitive questions (stage, how bad is it, etc.) our 12 yo daughter asked technical questions (chemo?, is it genetic/will I get it, will you have nipples).

    I'm so glad we waited until we had a game plan and had dealt with it emotionally ourselves first. We presented it in a way that was reassuring for them (it was caught early so we are so lucky) and "what a great celebration to be able to celebrate Christmas and the New Year cancer free".

    I'm so thankful for this board and the wisdom of others. My knee-jerk reaction was to want to tell them right away. I'm glad we listened to others and that they shared their experience.

  • bevin
    bevin Member Posts: 1,902
    edited December 2017

    hi there,  I actually never told my child.  I feel strongly children don't need adult worries. They have many other issues in life to figure out and my health worries shouldn't become a childs.

    My child was 10 when I was diagnosed so to young to fully understand and young enough for a head to get filled with worry of the unknown. For that reason, I chose not to share . I had a lumpectomy and radiation and  favorable outcome was anticipated.. There was never a reason to involved my child in my worries.  No one can tell you're going through that treatment.  If I had opted in for Chemo, I suppose it would be a different conversation of course, but it would have been couched around age appropriate information. i.e., I'm taking medicine that may make my hair fall out, but its killing bad cells I had in my body. This conversation would have been guided by the psychologist available at the cancer center to ensure I was on target with what I said and how I said it..

    When my child is old enough and needs to understand for screening purposes, I'll fill in our health history. For now. Its not necessary to know. 

    Good luck on your decision. I'm glad I handled mine the way I did.  Just think through your decision. A lot of input here from a lot of great ladies. Seek input from your cancer center too if you havent' yet. The deal with this all the time and can be a good source of help.

  • houmom
    houmom Member Posts: 162
    edited December 2017

    I’m planning to tell mine right before I go in for surgery. I was also diagnosed during thanksgiving week, they were home from school so obviously it seemed a bit strange that we were out a lot during that week but they didn’t ask us anything. I am hoping the surgery will be done while they are in school so that they won’t be home all day to see me recovering in bed. My daughter is almost 14 so I think we will have to give her more details than my 7 year old son needs.

    I haven’t actually told anyone apart from one friend who’s mom had the same diagnosis as me. I just don’t want people fussing over me or feeling sorry for me, I feel very fortunate to have caught it so early (stage 1 grade 1 IDC ER+/PR+/HER2-). One of my former co-workers has stage 4 colon cancer that I don’t think she is going to survive. I wasn’t planning on really telling anyone, until my friend told me that one of our other friends actually found a lump and went through the whole biopsy thing alone earlier this year because she was too scared to tell anyone. I will tell the rest of my friends once I have had my surgery and have a clear, concise answer to give abouthe future holds. I hope that none of them feel alone if they find themselves in a similar situation one day.

  • ps0705
    ps0705 Member Posts: 122
    edited December 2017

    Update - it's been almost a week since we told them and they are still doing well with the news. I am so thankful for you wonderful ladies on this forum and for your advice.

  • DanceSmartly
    DanceSmartly Member Posts: 69
    edited December 2017

    Hey ps: glad everything seems to have gone as well as could be expected under these trying circumstances! I had my surgery today and both kids were anxious to confirm that the lump is gone! It will be interesting to see how our adjuvant treatment discussions go...

  • ps0705
    ps0705 Member Posts: 122
    edited December 2017

    DanceSmartly - so happy for you having your surgery done. I hope your children rest easy tonight knowing their mom's surgery is over with.


  • DanceSmartly
    DanceSmartly Member Posts: 69
    edited December 2017

    Thanks, ps! My daughter is super clingy tonight; I think she set a world record for heart emojis in her texts today! 😁 So happy I was able to come home to them tonight.

    Hoping that your surgery goes equally well in a couple weeks... All the best!

    Dance

  • Nkb
    Nkb Member Posts: 1,436
    edited December 2017

    I just wanted to add that every child has a different response and need to know. You as the mom are the best judge of how to handle it with your own kids. I wanted to tell my kids in person (20,20 and 24 at the time) they came home for Christmas and I was going to tell them when one of their friends committed suicide-so I thought that is enough sorrow. Anyway-put it off a few days and downplayed it a lot-hadn't had surgery yet so I didn't really know how bad it was. We all cried together. I did end up needing chemo and radiation so I am glad I had told them-, but, also glad they were away at college for the tough parts. They did call me every chemo day which I loved.

    5 years later when I got mets to my bones I asked my MO should I tell the kids? And she said, if it was in your liver I would say yes, but, maybe not while it is just in your bones. I did visit with each of them separately and told them - the first question they each asked unbeknownst to the others was "How long have you known this?" I was really glad I had told them right away-sometimes they worry more if you don't tell them.


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