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  • JunieB
    JunieB Member Posts: 1,023
    edited November 2017

    M0mmy2 - Happy Belated Birthday!

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  • JunieB
    JunieB Member Posts: 1,023
    edited November 2017

    M0mmy2 - Sorry you caught a cold. But glad your DH made it special for you.

  • JunieB
    JunieB Member Posts: 1,023
    edited November 2017

    Well 5 weeks now of this blasted phlebitis. Leg is still red, hot and painful. I've had 2 ultrasounds and zero blood-clots. Yay! on that at least. I've had enough though. I am calling some vascular surgeons tomorrow to see if there is anything that can be done to get me some relief.

    Also, it seems that my 17 year old left hip reconstruction may be failing. I have pain with every step, right in the socket. Unfortunately the surgeon who did they original reconstruction is in Phoenix at the Mayo Clinic. So if it is failing, I'll have to travel there to see him. Thankfully he hasn't retired yet. My Ortho. Onc. in Portland is not at all thrilled with the idea of doing anything with my left hip because the procedure was so complex. When I live in Las Vegas it was no big deal to travel 350 miles to the Ortho. Onc., but from where I am now it's 1,400 miles. Yikes, quite the commute.

  • JunieB
    JunieB Member Posts: 1,023
    edited November 2017

    Read this article on the grain-free kibble many pet parents are switching their beloved pets to and thought someone might find it interesting.

    https://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/...


  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited November 2017

    Junie, Thanks for sharing. I'll stick with my cheap kibble. My cat, Squeakers, doesn't like the wet stuff. He eats a little bit because foster cat does and he doesn't want foster to get anything he doesn't have too. Without foster cat, he won't touch the stuff.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited November 2017

    Helllo, I've been down the rabbit hole. I worked on housekeeping threads this morning then had to nap.

    Junie, we need to play 20 questions, I'll call and see if it's a convenient time to talk Hugs


  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited November 2017

    Poor Junie, it was a million questions

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited November 2017

    Blue, Had great fun with all the dogs on T-Day. I spaced it out. 12 pm ds & dil (they came earlier than 12) worked well. The dogs ran off the energy. 12:15 the forth dog arrived. The others were already worn out. My dear, dear friend brought treats. I can not convince him that is NOT a good thing to do in a multiple dog greet scenario. But it worked out okay.

    Irony, DSI was concerned about 4 dogs being here. Yet, for the length of their life of having a dog it was always included. ?????

    I've included the dogs b/c then folks don't worry about having to go home to let them out. The dogs have always gotten along well. It's so much fun watching how happy they are about being included. Lots and lots of wagging tails and good behavior after the initial running and dominance play

    Most dogs were 5. They were all great together.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2017

    Sas - you're right, no treats, no quarrels. Danny Boy is doing better. Have him on PhytoMax for joints and pain and inflammation. He is doing some bounces now when he wants in the house. Long time since he did those. When it snows he has always run and played and it is what he eats for his fluid, ceases to drink water in the winter. Though I strongly discourage that and the subsequent puking due to frozen liquid.

    Been sleeping the night. But going to bed closer to 2 or 4 or even 5 in morning. Too much cancer crap in my thoughts and just want to watch Gilmore Girls marathon of 153 episodes I recorded and chill, No thinking.

  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited November 2017

    (((((((Mamma Ray)))))))

  • kathindc
    kathindc Member Posts: 2,042
    edited November 2017

    Sending love and hugs you way MammaRay

  • feelingfeline
    feelingfeline Member Posts: 5,664
    edited November 2017
  • Faithonfire
    Faithonfire Member Posts: 85
    edited November 2017

    hi I'm new to this thread but I have nobody to talk to that can understand what I am going through right now. I'm shy but so desperate for basic validation that I will fight through my insecurity to gain perspective from people suffering the same nature of insanity I am with my diagnosis and the current situation I must survive as I am mercilessly preyed upon for my weakness during chemotherapy treatments!

    My own husband and children that begged me to get proper mental health treatment for my ptsd during my diagnosis of braca 2 breast cancer claim I abandoned them for having to leave the state I live in for the duration of my treatment because the appropriate care and medication vital to save my life is legal and unattainable in a timeframe to prevent my death!

    Welcome to the reality of Chris Christies Fallout after he stripped the entire state funding for EVERY service possible to his failed political bid to become Vice President, THEN claims to be the champion of mental health and addiction treatment services by leaving gutted programs that serve nobody except those that took the money and never provided the services they were given to fund!!

    The new addiction program he launched is only domestic jail with full Medicaid funding to overcharge each victim under chemical restraint for 30 day minimum and zero follow up care that leaves patients the option to relapse or overdose as they are shamed and blamed for their moral failings for daring to admit they need professional help to survive!

    That is what Chris Christie SHOULD be famous for, metoo movement needs an abuse of elected officials caught so blatantly violating the law with impunity believing he is above the laws he swore to honor to GET elected!!!

    If anyone deserves to be locked away in his new Stanford prison experiment style of mental health treatment it's HIM!!!

    Mental health system is SUCH a joke and so understaffed and overbooked that initial appointments can take over 6 months for the few that bother to take insurance at ALL, and longer for anyone qualified to prescribe medical cards or ability to fill prescriptions for medical marijuana with confirmation of qualified diagnosis verified, and charging outrageous prices for office visits while preventing qualified insured patients from ANY access at fair price over blatant extortion of state law and every federal law that protects patients rights from such indisputable industry condoned abuse of the system designed to SAVE LIVES for financial profit with undeniable lack of a single conviction for these crimes!

    I finally got a Marinol prescription to stop wasting away but I am more terrified to travel with that than my morphine prescription for fear of being incarcerated as a criminal for my legal medication critical to my survival crossing any imaginary line I must to be with my family that transforms me from cancer patient to junkie criminal in the eyes of the federal government because I lack the financial ability to bribe the criminals actively extorting the entire system they implemented!

    I just want to do something about this insane set of circumstances I am forced to face on chemo brain! I don't know how else to get a reality check when these things I mentioned have been so well documented and easy to research YET continues to this Day without any acknowledgement or conviction on state or federal levels!

    So I guess this was a good first crack at it and I hope someone qualified will read this and finally shed light on it for the sake of all those forced to suffer because of their FALSE belief that they are untouchable once elected.

    Strangest fact is, a convicted felon cannot vote but you CAN vote a convicted felon to public office!?

    So who convicts the federal government for failing to uphold its OWN laws that protect those it was created to serve?

    So far NOBODY because WHAT YOU gonna DO BOUT IT? The president made his fortune extorting the same state for the same reason

    So who will protect people like me from DOCUMENTED CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR like that?

    Don't bother calling the state police because even THEY are too afraid to go in the pine barrens with guns, so they cower in their cars and call the brave and infininatly more well trained dnr department that respects the environment and people who inhabit it because they don't go missing in the forest like the wicked do all too often!

    The jersey devil will because even his legend has more honor in its motives than our president or the elected officials that continue to profit from this

  • Faithonfire
    Faithonfire Member Posts: 85
    edited November 2017

    I apologize if that offends anyone but I felt it needed to be said, and I hope at least I can help find a way to solve the problem that the "new mental health" program FINALLY being recognized as a national health crisis clearly extorts funding away from ANY condition absent the addiction treatment component of mental health treatment instead of helping people in most need with combined severe diagnoses like ptsd and stage 3 cancer manage and navigate nessicary proper use of these vital substances from start to finish of the agreed upon professional treatment plan that deemed them nessicary for survival of treatment!

    I'm so angry at the indignance of the medical community when the treatments you agree to pay them for put you in so much pain that you cannot survive without proper pain management, then you are denied the prescription to TREAT the pain they cause out of fear of reprisal from the federal government for not extorting patients insurance, copay or uncovered treatment options enough while they are too weak to object or report it because they are denied the validation of their pain that impares the ability function on any level as they are blamed for their moral failure of suffering the documented side effects caused by the medication on TOP of being denied the pain medication at effective doses specifically designed to treat it!

    May every scum that ever made a dirty dime that way or failed to stop it for financial gain find themselves rotting in a waiting room unable to escape and overflowing with the pain they deserve for the innocent honest patients they preyed upon to amass their filthy fortunes as the hours tick by with NO pain meds, dignity or fair treatment for every soul that died for being denied the same care they prevented and profited from!

    All the paper and metal on earth is no good at treating pain until you trade it for the chemical that provides the relief, and no matter how much blood money was collect that way, it will NEVER be enough to buy salvation or relief for those they stole that from in their greatest hour of need!

    I think it's time to level the field and demonstrate true social justice where laws that are uninfoced fail us all and encourage the illusion of superiority by those openly profiting from breaking them!.

    We have all seen the results of TRUSTING our government to protect us, so WHO will protect US from THEM if this is the current reality we ALL face!?!

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited December 2017

    MammaRay, wish I have the magic wand to smack those buggers away from you and my other love ones. I still haven't gotten a chance to get groceries yet. Oh talk about food....I went to the casino the other day. Oh JunieB, don't worry. I didn't sin by gambling, but I did indulge in 3 whole lobsters and 2 heads! The best part is the head not the tail, by the way. All you can eat lobsters at the buffet and the max my stomach could handle was what I mentioned umm plus several king crab legs. Had a small bowl of clam chowder also. And that was my only meal for the day. Did the American Heart Society recommend that your biggest meal should be at lunch? I am sure it was them.

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  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited December 2017

    JunieB, hope the antibiotics will take care of the what-ever-it is. Here is a pictures of Mitzy. I haven't given her back to the SPCA yet. I don't think they want her back anyway. I told her many times that she better behave herself

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    This is how she often answers me:

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    ....by howling. She talks back. That little brat !!

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited December 2017

    Welcome Faithonfire! Should I send firemen your way?

    I agree with you about our mental health system. Very sad. I have seen many in and out of jail or because these folks fall through the cracks.

    Ms Sas, why were you in the rabbit holes?

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited December 2017

    Loverly, I was just busy busy. I shouldn't have used that phrase. Everything's good here. Love seeing Mitsy.

    Faithonfire. Welcome here, no clue about responding. I'm more of a technical person. But it was good to hear you get that off your mind. There might me another thread where you would get a better response. It's called the "Steam Room for Anger". I'll get the link and bring it back. Consider cutting and pasting both posts to place there.

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/102/topics/833446?page=79#idx_2350

    Do you have something specific we might help with? :)

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited December 2017

    MammaRay. sorry. A good person to talk with this about would be MTwoman. Your feelings and anger are normal. But when it seems like they are controlling you versus you controlling them, it's time to talk with someone that does this type of thing for a living and MT does. I'll bring her link back Hugs sweetie.

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/83/topics/855477?page=4#idx_113


  • Faithonfire
    Faithonfire Member Posts: 85
    edited December 2017

    thanks so much for all the support everyone,

    I'm sticking to my therapy for crisis management and holding out until I FINISH chemotherapy December 5 and then I will NEVER EVER do chemotherapy again!!! What I went through will take a while to sort out so I am just looking forward to ACTUALLY healing as soon as they STOP poisoning me every week.

    I got the best news of my entire treatment so far that I am a good candidate for nipple saving reconstruction for my double mastectomy about 4 to 6 weeks after chemotherapy. I also got to confirm the braca 2 gene for my mom and the rest of our family as we wait for their results the insurance refused to pay for until my diagnosis was confirmed.

    It would have been nice to know with my moms diagnosis 3 years earlier but they treated me very differently at my age and more severe stage.

    I'm trying my best to stay positive but I have a lot of anxiety about the holidays and how to protect myself from getting sick or having my medication stolen. I will let you know what advice I can find with the American cancer society in the subject. I love my family more than I'm embarrassed to ask how to remove temptation from them when I can't not take them and function like this.

    I fostered a puppy for paws for a cause, and it was a LOT to handle for me so my brother did most of the work but it helped me so much to feel unconditional love when my husband and children won't talk to me right now. They are angry that I abandoned them by using the same team of doctors that cured my mother of the same exact kind of cancer, HOW can everyone else in the world understand that except the people I dedicated my life to?

    It's almost as hard as hearing my teenage girls call me a liar when I told them my diagnosis on the phone and they refused to even see me before I left for treatment and I have faced bullying and hatred ever since. I'm still in too much shock over that to be angry, I'm scared of the sudden personality change so suddenly and worry about how to NOT screw this up as I get them help.

    Any advice would help, I am having a horrific time with separation anxiety this is the longest in my life I have not been with my children and they only curse at me when I try to reach out.

    My husband is completely emotionally abandoned me and thrown me under the buss with our children so they don't talk to me either and tell me to never come back or die when I do.

    He says nothing for days and a few one word answers if he wants to give me enough false hope to keep me as upset as possible then blame me for the pain I'm in! It's horrific to watch them all fall apart and blame me when I am powerless to even get out of bed for days because of it.

    I don't know how to make this stop and prevent the abuse pattern before my children start victimizing anyone else as badly as they have been allowed and encouraged to hurt their mother,


  • Faithonfire
    Faithonfire Member Posts: 85
    edited December 2017

    I'm sorry if I upset anyone with venting my anger but I'm not used to doing that and my therapist encouraged me to try and he was wrong, it only made me embarrassed that I am so good at pushing people away.

    I'm just trying to keep my head up until I am done with chemo and I was promised it will FINALLY feel better and I won't be stuck on pills forever.

    I don't drink anymore again but this time I'm not counting months, I had 10 sober before my diagnosis and I'm still mad at myself that I couldn't make a year, A

  • Eeyore07
    Eeyore07 Member Posts: 113
    edited December 2017

    Loverly, I know a lobster lost one claw is called a cull. What do you call a lobster only has the head? How can you get two heads🧐?

  • Lula73
    Lula73 Member Posts: 1,824
    edited December 2017

    loverly-what casino has an all you can eat lobster buffet? I’m hopping in the car and heading there ASAP!

    Faithonfire- so very sorry you’re dealing with everything you are. No wonder you’re so angry! But as I read through your posts, it does seem that expressing that anger through your posts is helping as the anger is less in each subsequent post. MTWoman May be able to help too. Any clue why your kids think you’re lying about your diagnosis? That’s crazy. And I can’t say I understand your DH either. But I will say that everyone deals with this journey in different ways. I hope it gets better for you. On your meds and keeping them safe, may I suggest a nightstand gun safe? They are available with a key, a combination or a fingerprint lock. If you have a Costco membership they often have them for a good deal at the holidays. Here’s the link to the one on Costco.com and you don’t have to even be a member to order it online! We have the one made by gunvault but we bought this one for my dad.

    https://m.costco.com/Sports-Afield-SA-RV3-Lightning-Handgun-Vault.product.100377124.html



  • JunieB
    JunieB Member Posts: 1,023
    edited December 2017

    Loverly - Being as petite as you are, how in the world did you manage to eat three lobsters? LOL! So glad you enjoyed them though. Also, a little gambling isn't sinful. Remember what Paul said in 1 Corinthians 6:12 - "All things are lawful for me,' but I will not be brought under the power of anything."

    Oh! sweet Mitzy, she is looking quite beautiful. In the early pics you posted of her, she looked somewhat fearful. I don't think you'd had her very long then and she hadn't had time to realize that she is "HOME". Now she has a look in her eyes that says "I know I am HOME!" "These are my HOOMANS!"

    I don't think the antibiotics are really doing anything. My leg is still very red, hot, & hurts like the dickens. The PA from my MO's office called today and said to finish the antibiotics though and they are referring me to a Vascular Surgeon ASAP. I'll be surprised if I can get a consult appt. before Christmas. Let alone having the procedure done. What I've heard about the vein surgery is that it is VERY painful. I'm scared! Yikes!

    Hips still hurt too and I am having a bone scan next Tuesday.

    Poor Mr. Kirby, he is so scared and hiding under my bed. I broiled a steak for dinner tonight and when I opened the oven door, smoke came billowing out and set off the fire alarm. The alarm has the loud BEEP BEEP, plus a flashing light. Kirby is terrified and I couldn't even coax him out with a bite of steak. He did let me hold him a bit, but he was shaking like a leaf. I have the living room window open with a fan blowing out the window to clear the smoky smell out.

    Mammaray - (((HUGS to You)))

    Anyway, I will say goodnight for now. I hope everyone gets a good restful nights sleep.

    Oh my, Kirby just snuck out from under the bed! I'm going hug on him a bit now.


  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2017

    Poor Kirby! Cooking is BAD! Oh the trauma......... I think I have mentioned before that I hail from a long line of undomesticated women. My mother though was a bit of a rebel and did actually cook. Sometimes she would use all 4 burners AND the hot thing underneath. She did remain faithful to family custom - not once did she ever clean the oven. As the years went by meals became more and more exciting. My younger cousin would absolutely beg to come over for dinner. "Please Mommy, please can we eat at Auntie's house? I want to see the firemen and the trucks!", True story, honest! The firemen visited a few times to put out the clothes dryer too......

    When the FF and I were in our courting days , he mortified me by cleaning my oven. It was awful! I had to hurry and get the childrens and kitties outside. Ooooh the stench! And the shame of a spotless oven.

    Miss Pris is adjusting to DS being here. Her opinion of him was greatly improved once he started feeding her fave canned food. She is even chasing DS around the house so she can bite him

    Junie, I do so hope you can get in to see the specialist right away. Maybe the anti-b's need a little more time? You cannot be sick or hurting - we have an adventure to have!

    I am finally off decadron - doc agreed it was doing more harm than good. BestBird has very encouraging info in her Mets Gude. She had listed Boswellia as very effective and safe way to treat brain edema - plus it kills cancer cells! So far it's working great. It is supposed to be very effective to ease fibromyalgia and joint pain.

    Want to "visit" more but I keep dozing off!

    Faithonfire ` Sas has advised you well as to seeking other threads. You are still adjusting to your DX and are still processing it all. You are scared and angry. Please check out share.org. They have live people -all have BC ` available to answer your questions, The American Cancer Society also has counselors.


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  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited December 2017

    Faithonfire, Thanks for giving us more info Stay here with us as long as you need.

    We could be an anchor to your boat that's in the storm.

    But you have way to much to much going on. I second Lulu of talking with MTwoman. She has Breast cancer. So, she has the perspective of cancer. She's also a licensed counselor. This is the link to her thread here on breastcancer.org.(BCO). She's fabulous. I'll send her a PM to check in here to review your posts. But we are here when we are here. She may be off a world cruise, ergo, may not be available. So, don't fret if she doesn't answer.

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/83/topics/855477?page=4#idx_113

    The other thread "Steam Room for Anger" Is a great place to blow of the anger. Like a boiler plate exploding. The topic box will explain it. I'll re-add the link here to make it easy for you

    https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/102/topics/833446?page=79#idx_2350

    Put threads in your "favs" Favorite places. I'm guessing you know how to do this b/c you got back here. But just in case. There is a "add to my favorites" at the top and bottom of each page.

    next post

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited December 2017

    typing to faith on fire

    Loverly please write a PM to MT and ask if she wouldn't mind coming here, we need help Thanks

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited December 2017

    Faith, I'm going to ask that you attempt an outline I'm going to write a series of questions. I would like you to answer each question with maximum response of 2-4 sentences. The point being is to try to clarify what's going on. Hopefully, this will have value to MT if she's available.

    DO NOT ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS HERE, WRITE THEM ON A NOTE PAD

    1. What is your number one concern today.

    2. Why do you think your family thinks you are lying?

    Husband----

    Daughter 1

    daughter 2

    3. You left home for treatment where is home--state? Where is treatment-state?

    4. Who are you staying with in the treatment area? general answer only, attempt to know if you are safe

    5. Define what you mean in this sentence " I am mercilessly preyed upon for my weakness during chemotherapy treatments!"

    6. Leave out problems with Christie and Obamacare unless relevant? I see no relevance to problem at hand. The point here is to stay on topic of your present problem.

    7. Prior history of mental health problems? Substance abuse problems?

    8. Define:" I'm sticking to my therapy for crisis management?

    9. Define: "or having my medication stolen." Who would steal your medicine?

    That's all I've got. My thought is if you clarify some things, if and when MT is available it may help your discussion.

    Ranting is excellent for letting off the energy related to anger, but it should be done in a space designed for that. That's the Steam Room". We are supportive, but we , also, go to the steam room when we want to let loose. If there is a particular problem we can help with, we are the helping crew. I hope that is understandable and not off putting.

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  • MTwoman
    MTwoman Member Posts: 2,704
    edited December 2017

    I am here, and am glad that sas made the list of questions above as they will be helpful in prioritizing help and support. I am typically not on the forum very much over the weekend, but will make sure to check in over the next few days to see what I can do.

    Faith, if you can give us more info (per above) I am happy to do what I can to help. It does seem like an overwhelming situation, and we would all like to be able to do something that would be helpful to you. Please keep talking to us. We get it.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited December 2017

    Hi MT Thanks for coming . Bless you.

    Thanks Loverly for conveying the request.

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