Can we have a forum for "older" people with bc?
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Just wow about all those stories. Anne yours was very ambivalent. I really had a laugh about the priest letting you know that the a/c wasn't working on the day of the funeral though it came back on. Spirits are strong at times -- and your husbands was very much so.
Dh and I have some wars on this. He likes it at 78 or 79. Well, it runs a bit more at 77 which is where I like it. I'm usually the one running around here like a chicken with its head missing. I am responsible for the indoor morning chores. Dh goes out and feeds the dogs -- his choice since there is a lot less to do for him. But it doesn't take a whole lot to get me sweating. Soooo, I do the sneak it where I want it to be as well. He lets me get away with it, but at night --- it goes up to at least 78. That's okay for me pretty much. I do have some fans here and there to when he has it higher the fans speeds go higher.
I have nothing but a sheet for cover at night --- and usually only stick my feet under it. After chemo I have some foot neuropathy and my feet seem sensitive to everything -- including cold sensations when the rest of me is fine.
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Tappermom, Only the newer buildings in Seattle have AC. During a heat wave, the local grocery put up a sign that encouraged people to come in to cool off, but please try to hold it to an hour at a time! Our house, like most, has only heat. The upstairs (attic, really) gets pretty hot, but the downstairs is ok and the basement is cool. We could sleep down there if it weren't for the spiders.
We lived in Houston without AC for years. If you had it you couldn't afford to run it. The electric bill for AC could be $200-300 a month (back when rent for a house was $125. Moving to Seattle was a real breath of fresh air. Even in hot weather there's a breeze in the early evening that really helps with cooling.
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Cooled down here yesterday and today......only in the 60's. Even had to close the windows, as it was chilly. We never had A/c as a kid in Chicago. Actually neve had A/c in our other house here. Had a finished basement and spent time there when it was hot. We hve a log home now which stay fairly cool, but we do have a portable A/c in our bedroom. We spend most of our free time there, have a TV and our recliners in it. With the portable we stay comfortable. Last week it was so hot and humid we even took our dinner in there! Call it our MAster suite, Haha, with our huge 1500 sq foot cabin. Had a second hand window A/c from our daughter, but didn''t like it as we live on 1 floor and have heard of them getting shoved in and the house robbed. The portable we just remove the hose setup when we go out shopping, easy! Love it. I usually have it at 74 or 73. Dh will say he's not hot, me, I never used to sweat, but now, the humidity gets me soaking, if it's not turned on. I can't sleep in a hot room. Anyway, right now enjoying the break from the heat and humidity!
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Is gues my feeling is.....if you pay to keep warm in the winter....then why shouldn't you pay to be cool in the summer.......at least in the winter you can add clothes, and more clothes, but you can only strip so much off in the summer...........everyone deserves to be comfortable, and each person does not cool or sweat the same way..........working with each other helps..........and not being self centered thinking about only your own needs..
I remembeer as a little kid, not being able to sleep becaue of the city summers.....A/C was a luxary back then, and sometimes non existent.....and remember also some have health issues and heat is their enemy..........
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Same here.... It's like I am always the hot one, and he sits there with a blanket over him in the recliner! Maybe because he has lost so much weight? He used to be 200, years ago, but is down below 170 now, and pretty thin, for 5ft. 10 inches.I have the swamp cooler going.... It works great, by adding colder water, and spraying it over the grids! It's not on the roof, but through the North side of the house, ....right by the hose, and that's how it fills, when it needs it. I( don't think swamp-coolers use as much electricity as air-conditioning.... At least our bill isn't very high, even when we run it a couple hours a day. We have fans on low, during the night....
It was 100 out on the patio porch a little earlier today.... supposed to get some showers, but lately they miss us.
No, we never had air-conditioning when we were little.... I'm still in the same neighborhood as I grew up in, but it just seems a lot more days of over 90 degree weather now!
Turned our bedroom around this morning.... The bed, dresser, etc. are now against different walls... Maybe it'll be cooler now at night! Washed the bedding with my new washer.... That thing is so FUN!!! Who else would be excited over a new washer? Hah! It doesn't use near as much water, and spins them nearly dry.... I used those perfumed "beads" sample, and everything smells so good!
NEXT, I want another Refrigerator.... I made a mistake when buying this one a couple years ago... Just TOO SHORT, TOO LOW, AND we hit our head on the bottom of the freezer every time we have to bend over to FIND anything! My fault!!! I didn't measure right.... It could have been a lot taller, and wider.... But DH just never thinks we need anything unless the other one does not work!
Guess I'll have to take matters in my own hands, again this time, and just go look around, and measure, and order one that we both will like!
DO ALL MEN JUST KEEP GETTING MORE STUBBORN AND SET IN THEIR WAYS WHEN THEY GET OLDER??? And they constantly whine about the "old days".... the old neighborhoods, and how the "yippies" and "druggies" are taking over everything!!!
We are so lucky we live where we do, that our neighborhood is so much better than it ever has been, that neighbor's are more friendly, helpful, and willing to give us a hand!
I KNOW things happen, EVERYwhere! But that's just life.... I don't let it get me down.... I know people die.... that they get old first, and get sick, but it doesn't have to get you down....
Maybe something's wrong with ME.... Hah! I'm just happy to get up and go work outdoors, and water the lawn when it is cool out.... early in the mornings.... And I actually don't care that people get old and maybe sick.... it doesn't have to make them GROUCHY.....
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Oh boy, I seem to have a story for everything. Our fridge was old, but working. Not great, but working. I wanted a new stainless one, but Bob, as usual, said we couldn't afford it. I was at my son's campsite, dropping off my grandson, and I saw a friend there who used to teach at the same school I worked at. She just happened to ask if I knew anyone who wanted a stainless steel fridge. I asked if something was wrong with it and she said no, she had just remodeled her kitchen and the fridge just didn't match. I asked how much, and she said, for you? Nothing. I came home and told Bob I just happened to get a new fridge while I was out. Just as he was about to explode, I said, Cool down, it didn't cost a penny (except we had to rent a truck to get it ). Even he couldn't argue with that,
Anne
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Bob grew up entirely w/o A/C. His family's little tract half-Cape (bought new in 1950 for $5K, all cash!) didn't have adequate wiring for central air, though as a gas-forced-air heated house the ductwork was in place; the windows were shallow casements and there were no sleeves cut through the walls. So in the misery of summer, he & his parents would sit in front of fans in the basement—without the TV—eating cold dinners; they had fans in the two bedrooms at night. Our building in Seattle—the U.W. Pacific Apts. married student housing, designed by (probably failed) Dept. of Architecture students—had neither adequate wiring nor cross-ventilation: the only windows, on the east-and-west-walls, had a wall between them. We had a box fan and later a swamp cooler; we needed them only for two weeks each summer, but oh, how we needed them! Our little dorm-size under-counter fridge couldn't crank out trays of ice cubes fast enough for that swamp cooler; the larger top-freezer (one door) manual-defrost unit the mgmt. finally installed wasn't much better, but at least the freezer had enough chunks of frost we could hack off to augment the cooling supply. The rest of the summer, the shade from the birches & firs alongside the building was enough to keep us cool…ish.
When we moved to Chicago, the first thing we bought on our first day here after signing the lease on our first apt. (we lived in a no-tell motel for a couple of days) wasn't furniture, not even a bed (we slept on the floor in sleeping bags)—it was an air conditioner. Bob insisted. Even now, he's the first one to turn our window units on. We still use window units & ceiling fans because our house, built in 1908, is steam-heated. Installation of ductwork alone would cost us $10K, even just the rudimentary ducts for a gravity-feed unit were we to install one in the attic. Yeah, we're eco-criminals, but we drive fuel-efficient cars. (Bob's is a hybrid that gets 50mpg the way he drives it). I try to walk or take public transit if I can.
Summer-in-the-city and the rarity of A/C in working-class Jewish neighborhoods was one of the two main reasons the Catskill Mts. Borscht Belt resorts (and bungalow colonies, or “kuchalaines," translated as “cook for yourselves" for those who couldn't afford resorts) were founded (the other being that most major Northeastern resorts were “restricted," for white Gentiles only). Those who could would move up to the mountains—whether for a week in the resorts, or a few weeks in the colonies or in our case, my aunt's summer house—and the dads would stay down in the city at their jobs M-F and drive up north for the weekends. It took decades of decline to kill the Borscht Belt, and there were several “assassins:" affordable air conditioning, enabling families to endure NYC summers; the end of ethnic restrictions at resorts (ironically, there were many more kosher resorts in the Catskills, catering to but not limited to Jews, than there were restricted ones nationwide); and the advent of affordable air travel, giving families the option to travel to more exotic locations in the U.S. beyond the reach of a couple tanks of gas. (Before that, the Adirondacks or “down the Shore" was about as exotic as it got in summertime for most Brooklynites).
It was a good thing that my family's apt. in E. Flatbush had A/C back in 1965, because that was the summer my dad had 3 heart attacks in as many weeks. A/C is absolutely essential for heart patients. Whenever we have a heat wave here, Bob gets a lot of hospital admissions for elderly folks with M.I.s (and the ER gets DOAs), mostly from the poorest S.Side neighborhoods: seniors in old buildings can't afford A/C; and they are too afraid of crime to open their windows, even if screened, for fans to circulate air, so heatstroke is endemic among them.
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I hate freezer-on-the-top refrigerators - earlier this year I got rid of a perfectly functioning fridge to get a new one with the freezer on the bottom. No more banged head, no more losing food in the abyss in the back of the fridge. Freezer rolls out, nice little sliding tray at the top, nice French doors and adjustable shelves in the refrigerator section. Love it.
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That’s the configuration of my 2006 LG, too. Unfortunately, it’s been malfunctioning like crazy—the freezer is frosting up, the left hand crisper tends to freeze tender moist veggies no matter how I set the humidity control, the ice/water dispenser leaks around its outer seam, the icemaker tray overfills and keeps falling off its swivels as it tries to dump its block of ice into the bin. But acc. to CR, it’s still the best there is among those with icemakers. (No way I’m going back to filling & emptying ice cube trays).
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Sounds just like mime ping-pong. I sort of traded with an extra few dollars my older but clean as a whistle Kenmore fridge. My HUGE complaint was that though it had a bottom freezer, it opened from the side. In our other house -- it wasn't so bad, but in this house it opened right by a wall and after yrs. of a very awkward arrangement I got the chance for the French door, bottom pull-out with extra pull out and deep ice cube maker tray and jumped at the chance. I had to pay about $150.00 for the newer Kenmore, but it has been heaven ever since. I never loved the older Kenmore, but at the other house it was tolerable. Since you don't have a pull out --- it was often hard to stack items or rotate them well and now and then something would actually fall out.
Moral of my story --- I think the pull outs are the very best to have and I'd never buy anything else.
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When we really love others, we accept them as they are. We make our love visible through little acts of kindness, shared activities, words of praise and thanks, and our willingness to get along with them. -Edward E. Ford
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Sunny morning here today. Going to go up to 99 but our humidity got a mite better. A mite is not much but I'll take anything. Come the week-end we will get better and have three or four days in the 80's. That will be easy to live with since we have had a number of triple digit days.
Lots of things to do, but likely will hold off on anymore yard work until we get those cooler days. I never lack for things to do around here so I'll still be able to keep busy.
Just thinking during these hot days how great it was to go and get a fresh bucket of water from the well when we were kids. The water was good and cold and tasted really good. Totally unlike how it tasted from the few people around town who had indoor running water. That water didn't have a good flavor at all. Seemed bland. There were good things about being a kid. The well ( which few people have now ) was one of them. That and the gorgeous willow trees in our back yard. I still like to see willow trees.
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The most refreshing water I ever drank was glacial runoff at a trailhead near the Sunrise entrance to Mt. Rainier Nat'l Park. Second tastiest was straight from the garden hose on a hot day. Well water in Northern IL, as well as in MI and OH, however, has in my recent experience tasted and smelled horrible, like rotten eggs. It wasn't that bad in eastern Queens where Bob grew up drinking artesian well water (piped in, not drawn from private wells),but it wasn't as tasty as that from the NYC water supply that originated at the Ashokan reservoir upstate. (They still bottle the stuff to sell as NYC souvenirs to sell to tourists).
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We were somewhere in New Hampshire and stayed at a little old fashioned motel with the nicest owner. The next morning, we asked where to eat breakfast. He said we had to go to Polly's Pancake Parlor. On our way, we were to stop and drink from a hose that had spring water. He was right that it was really tasty. Polly's was great too. Lots of pancakes in a restaurant with a view to a horse pasture containing a beautiful horse. It was a sunny fall day at the end of the leaf season.
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Only the wise person draws from life, and from every stage of it, its true savour, because only he or she feels the beauty, the dignity, and the value of life. The flowers of youth may fade, but the summer, the autumn, and even the winter of human existence, have their majestic grandeur, which the wise person recognizes and glorifies.
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Try saying this silently to everyone and everything you see for thirty days and see what happens to your own soul: "I wish you happiness now and whatever will bring happiness to you in the future. "If we said it to the sky, we would have to stop polluting; if we said it when we see the ponds and lakes and streams, we would have to stop using them as garbage dumps and sewers; if we said it to small children we would have to stop abusing them, even in the name of training; if we said it to people, we would have to stop stoking the fires of enmity around us. Beauty and human warmth would take root in us like a clear, hot June day. We would change. -Joan Chittister
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We got our foster cat adopted last weekend and I picked up another one last night. He's a gray male, hyperthyroid, and may be in renal failure. He's on the anti-thyroid medication for 3 weeks and renal values will be retested. Being hyperthyroid can make it look like a cat has renal failure when he doesn't. He's separated from my cat now. He hissed at him thru the door last night, but he'd been on a stressful car ride so perhaps it will go well in the future.
Going to be 80º here today. For us that's a heat wave. We're going to the annual Art in the Garden event. Artists display their wares around the edges of a community garden.
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My great grandaughter's 2nd birthday.....love her..
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Hi all
Ducky, your great granddaughter is adorable.
When we first moved to the apartment in Cooper City, in 1973, the water was awful. It smelled funny and tasted awful. We used to get those big jugs of water that sat on a base with a spigot. We moved to our first home for four years, then back to the house I am living in now- the water had completely changed, and smelled and tasted how water was supposed to (odorless and tasteless). But one thing we have always known is that NYC water is the best water around. Just like pizza anywhere else just doesn't taste as good, nor do bagels, although I admit I have heard Chicago has some good pizza. I also have to admit, I haven't travelled extensively enough to consider my opinion as the absolute truth, but have met many others from NYC who agree with me whole heartedly. Of course, over the past forty years, I no longer remember why it tasted so good, and think water is pretty much water wherever you are, but that's my story and I'm sticking to it!
My brother has returned. He called a few weeks ago, and asked if he could come down sooner than planned. I said sure, but was kind of surprised when he arrived. His car was packed with clothes, a TV, - I don't know that there was enough room left in the car for an extra water bottle. There was a little confusion about sleeping arrangements, because my son is there for a few more weeks- should we make him move so my brother can unpack in the "guest room" or should we put my brother on the futon in the used to be office turned guest room? It worked itself out with no problem. My brother arrived a day early, on Tues, but my son was gone with the camp on their annual sleepaway trip, and not going to be back till Wed night. But Thurs morning, my brother and I flew to Atlanta to help my grandson get ready for college. My brother asked if he could hang some stuff in the closet in the guest room He filled the whole closet. My brother slept in my grandson's bed for the two nights before we left for Atlanta. And my son goes home for the opening of the new school year the day before we fly home. I keep calling them "my brother" and "my son" because they are both named Rob.
All I know is he was willing to drive down from NC on Tues to fly to Atlanta on Thurs. Then he is renting a car to drive back to NC next Fri to attend a concert and get a check up with his Dr. He will drive back here on the 9th to fly back to Fl with me on the 12th. Each trip from Atlanta to NC is a 6 hr drive each way. Good thing I enjoy being with him.
Happy weekend everyone,
Anne
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Hi all,
So nice to read back all the nostalgia here. So many wonderful memories!
Life was simpler, but I do remember how the post-war world began to change with the Vietnam War, protests, riots, assassinations, and political unrest around the world. I was 12 years old in1960 and was deeply affected by what was happening. I have learned over the years that we should never give up on peace. It comes and it goes....and somehow we survive through it all.Ducky, congratulations on your beautiful family and latest great-grandchild. And to have a great-granddaughter named after you....how precious! Your entire family is so darned good-looking, starting with those photos of you in your late teens and 20s.
Chevy, I love the photo of you and DH....wow 60 years coming up....that's amazing. You two look like a movie poster!DH and I met in high school and married young after his military obligation. We will be married 50 years in 2018.
We had so much fun negotiating life on $140/month while he went to college after the military. It was no problem. We bought a mobile home and decorated it beautifully....planted flowers....shared a car....and spent $40/month on food. We had all we needed! And soon a baby daughter. I cannot remember being much happier than we were those first 5 years. We both worked and saved and even bought a house before baby daughter #2 came along. Life was good...it still is, but my 5 kids have grown up in a different world.I have a lot more reading back to do....been working and traveling since Memorial Day.
I worked all of June then traveled to California to visit DS. Then attended my godson's high school graduation in North Carolina. Then my granddaughter's moving up day from elementary school...
We just got back from a business trip in Cape Cod (then home for a day) and followed it up with a trip to northern Montana. We visited old friends...Ray has rare leukemia and had to move from their beautiful mountain home in Colorado to a lower elevation with more medical facilities in a valley in Montana. Dee is having a hard time adjusting to the new area and taking on all the housework, yard work and making sure Ray eats well and keeps rested. We had a very simple visit with good meals and local drives...and one adventure into Glacier National Park where we had lunch at the Lodge. We got home 2 days ago, and now DD is coming for a visit but renting a house nearby. It will be a fun week with the kids at the beach. The summer is flying by.Best wishes to everyone here for a happy and healthy summer.
Time for me to catch up....but not before I thank Jackie once again for being here every day with her inspiring quotes and words of wisdom.
xoxoJoan
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Joan.........so great to hear from you...always the busy lady.......will send you a PM soon...hugs girlfriend.....miss you
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Never pass up an opportunity to speak a kind word of appreciation. There are six billion people on the planet, and 5.9 billion of them go to bed every night starving for one honest word of appreciation. -Matthew Kelly
The aim of life is appreciation; there is no sense in not appreciating things; and there is no sense in having more of them if you have less appreciation of them. -Gilbert Keith Chesterton
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Family pictures of lovely little ones enjoying life and Anne with the company of your brother that has always it seems, been a big bonus to you. To cap it all off then someone lovely whom I've been thinking about arrives, Joan. Always seems to happen when I THINK hard enough and put out lots of strong positive feelings into the Universe. Maybe a pm will come your way Joan.
Our temps are now staying in the very tolerable 80's so I likely will get to spend some time in and out in the next few days and complete some of the yard work I let go on hold ( had the worst handled already anyway ) for better temps. It is always fun to hear how people ( our very good friends here ) from afar many times, lived life way back when, which is when we were all much younger and definitely with the energy of youth. For me then the future seemed so far away. It now has caught up ( in fact a while ago for sure ) and while it could have many improvements I still find myself grateful for the fact that I am here to see and be a part of all of it.
Starting to look forward to our annual Balloon Fest. Didn't really get to go last year as we had a number of items needing to be handled just at that period in time. The Fest is only for three days and a few times through the yrs. we have not been able to fit it in. I love going the first night as that is when they have the fireworks to cap off first day. For some reason they have ALWAYS been better than the 4th. display.
I hope all of you have a satisfying Sunday doing whatever makes you happy.
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IllinoisLady, that Balloon Fest sounds wonderful! Would you be able to get any pictures and post them here???
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Tried to get a picture on but it didn't load correctly....so I'm hoping to insert something from the City of Centralia that should allow you to look at many aspects of the Fest.
Centralia Balloon Fest 2017, Centralia, Illinois
www.balloon-fest.com/Bring your lawn chairs, flashlight, camera, film, sunscreen and enthusiasm! The Centralia Balloon Fest is in Centralia, Illinois. Hot air balloons. Held on Friday, Saturday, Sunday, August 18, 19, 20, 2017.I could open the site --- not sure about everyone seeing it here. Just some facts about it here. For anyone who has attended a Balloon Fest anywhere....Centralia is one of the VERY few ( there might be one other or perhaps two other places ) where you can actually walk up to the pilots and their balloons, look at the balloons up close and personal and ask questions of the pilots and crew. It takes a fair sized crew. They hold the balloon on the ground while it is being inflated with helium gas with long, heavy tether ropes.
At Centralia, all the balloons usually between 40 or 50, come into the park a short while before the sun starts setting. They take an assigned place around a pond which is in the park. All the balloons get inflated to a maximum size so they are standing up tall --- and then just as dark falls they have what is called the Balloon Glow. They turned on the burners ( which send the gas for flight into the balloon ) on a count of three, and all the balloons light up the night ---- and one of the most beautiful things is that the balloons are reflected in the pond at the same time they are alight on the ground. The balloon crews continue to hold on tight so that none of the balloons take off and they do several of these glows. This is one of the things along with the fireworks that to me always makes the first night pretty dramatic. It has been a year for the most part since any of us have seem THE GLOW and it is always sort of breath-taking and awe inspiring. There are few things like it.
Early morning is one of the best times for flight and then the crew become chasers --- following the balloon through the sky so that when it comes down ( often in a farmers field or meadow, they can fold up the balloon and put it on the balloon platform attached to the chase vehicle and either return to the park or return to the holding area ( usual a hotel parking lot ) until it is time for another flight. The balloons ( weather permitting ) are in the park both nights of the balloon fest to do the glow and many will come back on the very last night. Many though, have another engagement and have a long drive so leave after the last morning flight on Sunday.
Centralia ( only about 13,000 residents do some BIG things for such a tiny town. Not only the Balloon Fest every August, but the Oct. Halloween Parade is often about 3 hrs. long due to all the entries. At Christmas, there are two areas of the park ( same one where Balloon Fest takes place ) has city workers that decorate the park and you can drive through in your car with lights lit of beautiful scenes from Christmas. One area is set up to tell the story of the Savior's birth and though I like all of the areas the birth story is very quaint and sometimes has live animals like the ones from the original setting.
I came home after being a California resident for 25 yrs. not because of the very nice aspects of living here, but all the same I am highly appreciative that there are such things to enjoy and look on as something special in an otherwise ( ssshhh ) sort of Podunk place. I came home because my mother came home, and I wanted to spend a lot more quality time with her.
Forever grateful too -- after a yr. and a half of spending that quality time she passed away. I miss her everyday, but feel the urging, unseen and unheard ( strongly mental pushes ) that I received before we came home happened so that I could have that time with her and look back, though I miss her, with heartfelt gratitude that I was given the gift of time with someone who was not only deeply loved, but as well highly respected by myself and her very large family. Love you Mom, always did and always will.
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Hi, and thank you Joan! We are so lucky to have over 60 years together! We met in 1955, right after I graduated.... but in those days, you just went out, went steady, then got engaged, and finally started planning for a wedding.... Ours was very small.... Just went to a JP, then a little reception at my In-laws house.... nothing much really.... but I'll always remember it...
My Mom flew out, but my Dad stayed in California.... We had a little 1/2 of a double... $55 a month! 2 rooms, and a little kitchen.... Hah! We got married the last of September, 1957... and I made our first Thanksgiving dinner for some of his family.... ! Guess I was trying to prove something, marrying into his Italian family.... Hah!
And I'll be 80 tomorrow.... DAMN Ducky that sounds OLD.... If I didn't know better, I would think I was maybe 55 or so, but my girls are older than that! I still really feel good though, when something doesn't hurt.... But thank God we still have each other.... and I can still work in my gardens.... I've been patching up spots around one of our garages with cement, and then scraping up old paint/cement, and spray painting around the garage!
Janie is bring pizza over after she gets off work, and we'll have my Birthday then.... And Sheri & the boys will be here Wednesday, so we'll be going EVERYWHERE they want to go!!!
Okay girls.... take good care! xoxo
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Since I might forget sweet Sunny -- have the bestest birthday ever. XXXOOO
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