My (perhaps controversial) thoughts as a "newbie" to CA.

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  • Molly50
    Molly50 Member Posts: 3,773
    edited March 2017

    Trill, darn you look younger than me. What a beautiful woman you are! I am great. I feel good. Still a bit tired and sometimes sore but overall an uneventful two weeks at home. Grateful to be going to work Monday.

  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,558
    edited March 2017

    Trill, I'm hoping my DH got the stinker on video who tried to run off with my blanket! It was a smaller raccoon who seemed to want to play 😊

    Molly, continued prayers for healing. My job is also in my home. I'm busy sitting here watching my house fall apart. Bad day today, I'mjust very, very run down

  • Trill1943
    Trill1943 Member Posts: 1,677
    edited April 2017

    Molly, I'm blushing at your compliment..I will turn to your nice wordsl the day--soon to come--when I've been digging stuff out of my closet to pitch--in shorts with a big tear, socks also with holes, hair not combed all day, grim expression that makes me look mean....yesterday I took two old pc computers and broke them apart--pulled off cover, took out batteries, dug out hard drives--everything. Then I put them in a bunch of trash bags and sent them down the trash chute. Nobody will mess with them now!

    I'm so glad you are coming along--and that's good you'll be back to work soon and having that sense of accomplishment and just that good feeling when you get home and can flop and think "Ah, the day is done and I've done my job!" My mom used to call it a "good tired." The rest from that is always a good one. (What is your job?)

    Lori, do get your rest--you've had a lot to deal with. Just know that if you are too pooped to write, that I'm thinking of you every day. . . . . and your critters are sooooooo happy to have you there!

    As am I.

    love to both of you! t

  • DisneyGirl16
    DisneyGirl16 Member Posts: 121
    edited April 2017

    Lori, congratulations on completing radiation! You look great! Take it easy and rest as needed. Keep the photos of your critters coming. They are all so cute!

    Trill, nice picture! What is your secret to looking so young!?!

    Molly, don't work too hard! :-) Ease into it.


  • Trill1943
    Trill1943 Member Posts: 1,677
    edited April 2017

    DisneyGirl, good to see you here!

    I stay young by staying crazy. I keep the nuttiness alive....in creativity, in just plain how one thinks....my favorite year was when I fourteen and it remains so...after that I got stuck in boxes--or let myself be--until one day I just broke free...it's a process and an attitude I think...lots of wabi sabi!

    Molly, I hope you're proceeding well with healing...how is it being back at work?

    Spring is upon us finally and firmly....yay!!!

    Pantaloon loves seeing your critters, Lori! Send us more pictures!

  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited April 2017

    Lori, how about—in honor of his ancestry—naming that kitty “Pilgrim?"

  • Molly50
    Molly50 Member Posts: 3,773
    edited April 2017

    I am so far doing well at work. I am definitely tired but it's good to have my mind occupied.

  • Trill1943
    Trill1943 Member Posts: 1,677
    edited April 2017

    Great, Molly! Take care, take it easy--and know I'm thinking of you! trill

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    Trill1943 Member Posts: 1,677
    edited April 2017

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  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,558
    edited April 2017

    Sandy, done! His name is now and forevermore Pilgrim!

    I tried to get pictures of Yellow Cat slapping one of my raccoons while sharing a food dish but they kept taking off! 😩

    I did get a fuzzy picture of an oriole this afternoon I can share! At least I think it's an Indiana Oriole? lo

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  • Trill1943
    Trill1943 Member Posts: 1,677
    edited April 2017

    Lori, love this exotic-looking bird. Whatever it is. We have the Oriole as our state bird but I didn't know there were other types...sorry for my slow-wittiness...

    I see that I posted that political thingy above on this site by mistake...it was meant for the left-leaning site....I WONDERED where it went when I didn't see it there! Thought I was losing my marbles...tee hee....

  • JBeans
    JBeans Member Posts: 388
    edited April 2017

    Hi everyone!

    Molly and Lori - I'm glad you are both doing well. Lori - I adore the pictures of your critters.

    Trill - OMG! (Or at least that is what my students would type) you are beautiful - whatlovely lovely skin you wear :-)

    Spring is springing here and I couldn't be happier.

    xo to all.

  • Trill1943
    Trill1943 Member Posts: 1,677
    edited April 2017

    Hi JBeans! So good to hear from you.....how are the bEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS?

    Yes, spring is here!!!

    What are you and fam up to?

  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,558
    edited April 2017

    Good morning everyone!

    I had a busy time on my deck last night and I couldn't keep the food dish full! Such hungry critters! We had several mama possums stop by with their pouches full of squirming babies. I wish they'd bring the little ones by once they are kicked out of mama's house. There was a gorgeous silver mama possum that I've not seen before. She was very small so she could have been one of last years babies. Just as I was about to take a picture of her my DH came in a scared her so badly that she jumped 2 feet in the air and ran off. It was a funny sight to see but all I got was a picture of my empty deck!

    Here are some pics of last nights visitors. I can always tell the newbies as they run as soon as they see me. My regular bunch run up to me

    Moooom! He's hogging all the food!

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    Where's my marshmallow? I'm coming in the house to get it!

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    I'm a newbie, whatcha got?

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    Mine! You can't have it!

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    Easter is coming up and myDH has already gotten them their Easter treats! Until next time 🤗

  • JuniperCat
    JuniperCat Member Posts: 658
    edited April 2017

    Wow.... what great photos! Do the critters all get along with each other? So adorable!!!


  • DisneyGirl16
    DisneyGirl16 Member Posts: 121
    edited April 2017

    Trill, I can do nutty and crazy! Ha! I thought Spring had sprung for good here but. alas, the temperatures are dropping today and tonight into the 30's. It is cold, windy and rainy today. Yuck!

    Lori, love the pictures! And I love Sandy's suggestion of the name "Pilgrim" for the one kitty. So what kind of Easter treats did your husband buy your house guests?

  • Molly50
    Molly50 Member Posts: 3,773
    edited April 2017

    Lori, great pics! I can't believe the cat is not afraid of the racoon.

  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,558
    edited April 2017

    Junipercat, all of the animals get along great with each other. If there is a fight it's usually coon vs coon or coon vs Yellow Cat. Smokey, the one in the picture loves everyone

    DisneyGirl, he got 5 different flavores of peeps, their regular bags of marshmallows and he picked up the plastic Easter Eggs that I put hot dog pieces in for the critters to find and open. We'll set up an obstacle course to hide all of the eggs in and DH will record their antics and I'll put some of the videos on here for you gals can get a good laugh too.

  • DisneyGirl16
    DisneyGirl16 Member Posts: 121
    edited April 2017

    Lori, that sounds great! How creative of you both! Please do record the antics and share it with us!

  • Trill1943
    Trill1943 Member Posts: 1,677
    edited April 2017

    Lori-- I see you have a complete Game Show set up there,or are about to set one up.....wow.....these pix are great! And I love your description of their antics....how about an obstacle course? You know--like they have in those dog challenges....who can jump into a pool the farthest, through tubes the fastest...you might even get a new TV show out of it, now that real life politics are are weakening the hold reality shows had on us....

    Animal Reality!

    I see you have a giant marshmallow up there...gee, I could go for one of those myself right now!

  • CeliaC
    CeliaC Member Posts: 1,320
    edited April 2017

    Lori - So sweet of you to think of the creatures - Enjoying your pics. Too tired to write much. Hope you are healing up ok. Hugs.

  • NCBeachGirl
    NCBeachGirl Member Posts: 66
    edited April 2017

    Hi Trill,

    I am new here on the cancer boards. I saw your long and very thoughtful message that started this whole thread back in 2015, and I just had to find the last post you made, to see if you are still...alive. I am so glad to see that you are! I don't know if I will go through the whole thread to read everything (it's a long thread!), but it seems you had double mastectomy but no radiation or chemo. You seem to be in great spirits, so obviously you made the right choice for you.

    I was just diagnosed in March, and don't yet know what's ahead of me beyond surgery and radiation. Will find out more when I have my sentinel lymph node biopsy on Thursday. If I wake up with no lymph nodes, I'm pretty much figuring on chemo, Herceptin, and a long road of treatment ahead of me. I so thoroughly hate the ideas of radiation and chemo, but apparently I have a rather aggressive cancer, and I'm only 55, so recurrence is a very real concern.

    A few days ago, I started a thread in IDC forum called Reluctant Newbie, if you are curious. Maybe I'll start a HER2 positive thread, if there isn't already one. I guess we're a special breed of cat. 😺

  • Trill1943
    Trill1943 Member Posts: 1,677
    edited April 2017

    Hi NCBeachGirl--and welcome!

    I'm so glad that you found BCO.org! This is a great, great place. . . There is literally EVERYTHING here! It's a whole world unto itself...

    Yes, I'm alive and well and feeling great. I had to write that letter--to put into words all of my concerns. I was so very opposed to any and all treatments I'd heard about--just scared to death!

    I've become very close friends with my therapist, a wonderful psychotherapist who helped me deal with the grief I felt when in 2011 I lost after 20 years my dear kitty Tibbie. She and I were set on my having a lumpectomy (her 82-year-old mother developed cancer at 79 and elected to have that one breast removed but nothing else and is doing fine.) Karen influenced me greatly during this period, wanting me (at 72) to do less rather than more as her work with seniors has put her in a position to see up close various cancer treatments, how they worked out, side effects, etc. We said let's do a lumpectomy and then wait and see....

    Then I learned that I am a triple negative cell-type-wise. ER negative, PR negative, and Her2 negative. This is an aggressive cell type and that freaked me out even more. It was at this point that I decided to go with a double mastectomy. At first I wanted to just have the left breast removed, then changed my mind and decided that I didn't want that lopsidedness and went with a double. (I was always flat-chested but as I've gotten older (I'm now 73) the breasts became fuller and I hated them! They just felt like a burden. I don't like wearing bras unless I go out, and those things "hanging" were a pain. I'm an artist and am pretty active as I work and don't like bracelets and necklaces dangling and getting in the way. So I was glad to have them gone.

    I decided at that point that all would pretty much depend on that sentinel lymph node biopsy, which would be done at the time of surgery. I had the initial biopsy on November 1st, then saw a wonderful breast surgeon at Johns Hopkins and had surgery on December 14.

    The surgery went well. I started in the Outpatient department, then went to a private room and spent the night, leaving the next day. I had two drains and these were something of a pain for several weeks, bathing and so forth. And I couldn't drive with drains in. But I learned much--all the way from Pink Pockets to how to strip the drains twice a day to how to take a shower with them. After awhile it became second nature almost. Sleeping was difficult but anything is possible if you just plan for it and get those pain pills if you need them!

    The good news out of all of this was that the node was negative. Plus there was no vascular invasion and the margins were clear. Hopkins has this thing online--you may also have it at your hospital or doctor's office--called My Chart, where all of your info is kept--appointments and such. It also includes test results and I got like five pages of them! I read them word for word to be sure I got all the data. That was nerve-wracking but I got through it...

    I was delighted at all the good news. When I saw my breast surgeon and had the drains removed (at last! You have to wait until the drainage is down to like 2 cc's or something before they will take them out) I asked her:

    "What are the chances I still have cancer cells floating around in my system somewhere?"

    She answered, "It's highly unlikely."

    A few weeks later I finally got to see an oncologist. After we talked and she told me what she would recommend chemo-wise, she turned on the computer and put in all my information--cell type, size, my age--etc, along with the ACT chemo regimen she would offer me. This is a combination of three chemo drugs. She put in all that and the program she was using told us how many months that that chemo regimen (4 months of it) would likely extend my life.

    It would be four months of chemo (I think something like a treatment followed by three weeks off, then another treatment and three off--or something like that, covering four months total ) and would net me six months and ten days of added life expectancy.

    No deal.

    That was too little to gain for too much chemo--that I didn't want and had never wanted anyway.

    So that was it. That was January 30th--three months since the start.

    During the healing time right after surgery I gradually did some exercises to help with scar tissue and flexibility. I went to a physical therapist at Johns Hopkins here in Baltimore. Think I went half a dozen times. I was lucky that I didn't develop lymphadema--swelling due to the accumulation of lymph fluid after surgery. The only side effects if you can call them that are just that there is numbness along the scar line and under the sentinel node biopsy arm (the left). At first this kind of freaked me out and I wondered will I ever get feeling back? But then I stopped noticing it and only really do when I'm in the shower. So no problem there. I got an expensive set of boob things to go in a bra, but last week threw them out. I just get a bra that opens in the front and into which you can stick a little pad thingy, and it works fine for me. My therapist is so great and has such a wonderful outlook, telling me you don't notice my missing boobs. It took a while for me to get over complete flat-chest-ted-ness and I still have to have SOMETHING there when I go out but just around my apartment I have nothing there.

    So, yes, that was a good decision for me. A friend I met through another friend had BC back a few years ago and has the exact same triple negative cell type as I. She was 56 at the time and elected to have a lumpectomy. She had one dose of the ACT chemo cocktail and was made too ill to go for more. Triple negatives if they reoccur do so quickly, like within 3-4 years I think--and Addie reached 3 years last year being cancer free. I don't know what your complete cell type is but it does influence your thinking. The A stands for adriamycin--which is a pretty powerful thing and I felt that at 72 it was too much.

    Well, I've been rambling I see--again! I do hope you let me know how you are doing and how next week goes for you. This is a great place and it's meant the world to me. You can literally come here with anything on your mind. Feel free to write me at any time--and I'm going to check out Reluctant Newbie also.

    I wish you a great weekend and hope the upcoming days are as stress free as you can make them. It's a tense time--no doubt about it. But we live in an exciting time medicine-wise and much wonderful progress is being made.

    Do take care and know you've reached a great resource here and many folks who will listen, answer, soothe, help, and support.

    The best,

    Trill

  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,558
    edited April 2017

    NCBeachGirl, welcome! As Trill mentioned you've come to the right place here at BCO.org. I'm sorry you've had to join us but we're all glad you found us! I'd be lost if it weren't for all the wonderful people here to hold my hand and walk me through everything! It's a great place to be with such an ungrateful disease such as BC.


  • NCBeachGirl
    NCBeachGirl Member Posts: 66
    edited April 2017

    Hi Again,

    All the houseguests and my mom are finally gone, and at last I can sit here and fall apart and cry for the first time. I have about 90 minutes to myself before I have to pull it together again.

    Waaahhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I had to move in with my mom a year ago because of as-yet unexplained nerve damage in both my legs that was causing me to fall a lot. After some physical therapy, I'm no longer falling, but i'm weak and my legs don't work right. I also have a bunch of other health problems--a BUNCH--and I'm on disability and don't work. Lately I'm in so much pain that I haven't been able to do much of anything to pull my weight around here. Having able-bodied houseguests who worked their asses off while I sat in my bed doing online research on cancer has been, well, depressing doesn't quite describe it. I was already depressed before I even got my first mammogram! I have bipolar disorder (type II, mainly depression), fibromyalgia, ADD, OCD, obesity, chronic pain and fatigue, sciatica, pre-diabetes, and who knows what else I'm forgetting at the moment. I can say this here and let me preface it with telling you all I'm not just looking for sympathy: I feel like the world's biggest loser. I'm only 55. And a moment of self-pity here--I didn't ask for any of this.

    So to say I've been feeling so terribly useless and like a huge burden on my 80-yr-old mother and on society is an understatement. On top of all that shit, they diagnose me with an aggressive, rapidly dividing (Ki-67 74%), grade 3 IDC that's ER/PR neg but HER2 positive. F-ing Great.

    Breast surgeon is wonderful, spent a good hour or more with my mom and I (she's mom's dr, mom had BC that was hormone receptive and lumpectomy only, no rad or chemo). BS says the usual treatment for my cancer is surgery to widen the margins (I already had a lumpectomy with narrowly clear margins) and to do sentinel node biopsy and possible removal of all nodes, then radiation, chemo, and targeted therapy (probably Herceptin). The only things she DIDN'T suggest were hormone therapy and mastectomy. So I guess there's that to be relieved about, at least.

    THIS IS SO HARD!!!!

    And I've only just begun. k

    Thanks for letting me have a good cry. I'm sure I'm not the first person to 'lose it' in a post! Mom went through hell with my father's health for 10 years, including lung cancer (surgery only) and COPD and the world's most vulnerable immune system, bad lymphedema in both legs, and assorted other problems, and he died just 2 yrs ago. They'd been married since she was 19. So it's bad enuf she has to see me with all my other chronic illnesses and struggles. But now, cancer. Radiation for sure. Chemo most likely. I'm already so depressed, tired, and in pain. i hate like hell to put her through this. She's a nurse by profession, and she's been used to taking care of my very sick father.So this isn't freaking her out. But still...she's 80. She deserves a freaking break.

    Okay, gotta pull myself together and hope my eyes un-swell before she gets back from the airport. On the way out the door, my sister-in-law-to-be gave me a hug and told me twice to keep in touch and if I want to talk etc... I almost burst into tears on the spot. I just nodded and tried to smile and ran inside the house to come in my room and fall apart at last.

    Okay, pulling it together......hopefully....

    Thanks, and sorry for the self-pity. I'm so glad I found this site and all the supportive people here who will understand what I'm going to go through. TTY'allL.



  • ChiSandy
    ChiSandy Member Posts: 12,133
    edited April 2017

    Adriamycin (the "red devil," as some call it) is not only pretty brutal but cardiotoxic--a huge consideration the further past menopause we get, especially with a bad CV family history &/or being over 70. Good call, Trill

  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,558
    edited April 2017

    I had the "red devil" chemo and there's a reason they call it that. Nasty stuff indeed!

    NCBeachGirl, we are here for you. Scream, cry, throw tantrums, do whatever you feel is best for you. We all understand completely!

    {{{{NCBeachGirl}}}}

  • Trill1943
    Trill1943 Member Posts: 1,677
    edited April 2017

    NCBeachGirl, we're happy to have you here! And please feel free to "wail" all you want!

    I know what you mean about crying harder when you receive some TLC--I do the same thing and always have! Maybe because we hold it in and then at that reassuring voice feel free to let go and not be so stoic about it....

    It sounds as if you have plenty on your plate--more than enough! It's perfectly understandable you feel overwhelmed. All I can say to try to help along these lines is one thing that I've come to realize about myself that might help you.

    Sometimes when I'm stressed and feeling vulnerable I tend to heap EVERYTHING into my mental basket at once. I let things mount in my head--as if I have to deal with them all at once. If, for instance, I'm getting ready for company and feel behind, suddenly I'll think of all I have to do coming up: the dental appointment, the pile of laundry, the two return phone calls I have to make and have been putting off, the checkbook that needs balancing. Mentally they are all upon me at once and this leads to a real bad evening or night or day or whatever it is.

    I don't know why I do it--but I do. Just very slowly I've learned to shut myself up mentally--to stop the train of things from getting added to-- thing after thing after thing. I'm learning to deal with what's in front of me--and stop there. NOT let the whole gang come in and pile on me. They'll get dealt with in time--but not at once.

    Your mom sounds a dear but she's your mom and I have the feeling she'd feel quite upset if you turned down her help. I had a friend once who did just this with her mom---"No mom I can do it myself!" Blah blah. So she went on her solitary way, not accepting the aid that her mom offered. And I know--because she told me so--it broke her mother's heart. "That's what a mom is for!" she'd tell me--and I'd agree. But my friend persisted, as, she said, "Mom has enough on her shoulders...." It wasn't until she came upon her mother sobbing in her garden, having once again been told to, in essence, stop offering that my friend finally, very late in the day, woke up. After that things went much more smoothly between them and I could tell her mom, though at times a bit stressed-out, was deeply glad to be helping her daughter. Eventually the load lightened.

    I wish you a good week ahead. I'm thinking of you!

    Fondly,

    Trill

  • WenchLori
    WenchLori Member Posts: 1,558
    edited April 2017

    Hello everyone! I had my last follow up with my MO. He kicked me out into the cold cruel world all alone, I'll go in tomorrow morning for my last blood work. You're done! No more tests! No more scans! Just a lot of nothingness! Now I'll wait 6 weeks for the radiated skin to heal and then start the Tamoxafin. I feel sooooo abandoned! LOLI'll be thrilled to get rid of this blasted port! He just told me to take it easy, listen to my body and rest when needed and not to sign up for any marathons. I should be doing the happy dance but I'm to nervous to start dancing! 😂



  • Molly50
    Molly50 Member Posts: 3,773
    edited April 2017

    Lori, wait what? You should be seeing your MO for the rest of your life. Do you mean until your 4 month follow up?

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