Quotes from you for MBC Awareness Day (Oct 13)?!

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  • ShetlandPony
    ShetlandPony Member Posts: 4,924
    edited October 2016

    Thank you, AnimalCrackers, Linda, Mab, Zills, and Mara.

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited October 2016

    I also feel the need to say, great call, SP. In spite of being grateful and proud of myself for functioning fairly normally at the moment (after some rough patches), not a season or holiday goes by when I don't wonder if it will be my last (as I know we all do) -- like decorating for fall, or picking out a Christmas tree -- not to mention wondering if I'll live long enough to enjoy sharing some of these favorite seasonal traditions with future grandchildren, and even if I do, if I'll be a part of their lives long enough for them to remember me. Bittersweet overtones to even the loveliest of times. And not a day goes by that I don't think about friends who are no longer with us -- beautiful women I didn't even know beyond BCO or other social media, but whose spirits are forever ingrained in my subconscious. Yes, it's far deeper than our public persona of living well in spite of mbc.

  • Iwrite
    Iwrite Member Posts: 870
    edited October 2016

    Thank you Shetland Pony! You have captured the essence of this experience and this would be the best inspirational message we could share.

    Deanna...bittersweet is exactly the right word for every happy thing that happens now. We can never again be carefree as we continue to lose BCO friends, lose our physical capabilities and sometimes feel that we are losing ourselves even when the disease is stable

    As long as successful MBC treatment is "a few extra months" it is hard to believe in pink. Tomorrow could be a day to celebrate if real resources were dedicated to finding a cure.

  • Nel138281
    Nel138281 Member Posts: 2,124
    edited October 2016

    I am living with MBC (3 + years) and still go in and out of sadness, depression, anger, anxiety and acceptance.   I don't believe it is a straight line from anger to acceptance.  It depends on the day, how I feel, how soon my scan is coming up etc.  But in the interim - I work, enjoy my children (18 and 23), my friends, travel, nap - there are a lot of naps,  and am planning for my future - retirement next year.   Sooner than I anticipated, but I don't see the purpose in waiting. 

    I speak and advocate, when the opportunity presents, on the need for research for MBC.  We are dying, 113 a day, so while I also have a smile on my face and am moving thru life - the knowledge is ever present that I, we, are living compressed lives. 

    Nel

    age 62


  • Zillsnot4me
    Zillsnot4me Member Posts: 2,687
    edited October 2016

    Where are our quotes posted?

  • ShetlandPony
    ShetlandPony Member Posts: 4,924
    edited October 2016

    Thank you, Deanna, Iwrite, and Nel.

    Wow. There are so many very eloquent descriptions of the MBC experience here. They go deep, the way good poetry does. Together they paint a very real and heart-wrenching picture of MBC. They bring tears, and also awe, respect, and determination to help change things.

  • Bluefrog76
    Bluefrog76 Member Posts: 260
    edited October 2016

    It is disappointing to me that only our positive feelings were captured for a Facebook post. It isn't easy to talk about the reality of our diagnoses, at least for me. Your choosing to only post our upbeat "put my best face on" entries adds to the shame of this disease, whether intentional or not. MBC is scary, it hurts, it's lonely. And it's too uncomfortable for everyone else. I for one am sick of trying to make everyone else feel better. This thread and these discussion boards provide an honest, safe environment with other women who "get it". Picking only the words that paint a pretty picture makes me feel betrayed.

  • LindaE54
    LindaE54 Member Posts: 2,054
    edited October 2016

    Bluefrog, I don't do Facebook so have now way of knowing what was posted. But I agree with you 100%

  • Zillsnot4me
    Zillsnot4me Member Posts: 2,687
    edited October 2016
  • Zillsnot4me
    Zillsnot4me Member Posts: 2,687
    edited October 2016

    This is what I found and was not what I expected. I'm disappointed. I answered the thread first as I thought it was important. My original post was upbeat. My second post not so much. I will hesitate next time.

  • kt1966
    kt1966 Member Posts: 1,326
    edited October 2016
  • Mab60
    Mab60 Member Posts: 487
    edited October 2016

    blue frog captured my feelings as did Shetland pony on previous post. So, that Facebook post was created from these 2 small pages of posts? Does not seem to reflect all the posts. It's a very "pink" post which is sad.

    Mary Anne


  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited October 2016

    Dear Members,

    Thank you very much for your feedback. For the Facebook post that day the team decided to take a hopeful and more upbeat approach. For our community newsletter email that day,we sent a very different graphic for this reason. See image below. We hear you, and actually have larger plans to sharing these very thoughtful quotes from our amazing members.
    With Admiration,
    The Mods

    image

  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited October 2016

    Thank you, Mods! I hope you will share this on FB. As you may be aware, there has been some criticism and pushback on FB over both the original upbeat version of this ad, as well as the image that many with mbc feel was insensitive -- the one that says "CareB4Cure." Hopefully, BCO can correct these grave misunderstandings among some in the mbc community who were understandably upset by both.

  • kt1966
    kt1966 Member Posts: 1,326
    edited October 2016

    Thank you for acknowledging our posts.

    Sometimes we feel really marginalised as a lot of us aren't counted (only de novo) and any publicity is pink, or positive. Yes, it is possible to live & enjoy life as stage IV/metastatic, especially when you're stable and treatment is working. But that's not the case all the time.

    Progression and the failure of a treatment is scary. Dealing with new side effects of yet another treatment (in our diminishing arsenal of treatments available) is scary. Dealing with the symptoms of the newly progressed cancer is difficult.

    We push on and do our best, but it's not always easy and sometimes we struggle. I hope for the best, but know one day that's not enough.

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited October 2016

    Kt1966-

    And thank YOU all. We are deeply moved by your insightful, heartfelt, and compassionate comments. As always, we sincerely want to be there for and with you, regardless of stage or diagnosis. We never want you to feel isolated or misunderstood by us. So, please, keep sharing, and we promise to keep listening and responding. We apologize for any hurt feelings. We appreciate you all, so much.

    The Mods

  • mara51506
    mara51506 Member Posts: 5,088
    edited October 2016

    Yes, thank you for the more updated graphic. I had seen the first one and was disappointed not to see other posts in there. I believe both the realistic and hopeful aspects of MBC can coexist.

    I also agree that only having people who are doing many things can make others feel that they are not good enough, if they can only just make it through another day (which is amazing by the way). All facets of this disease need to be included, not just for stage IV but for all stages of BC. Make it more realistic.

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited October 2016

    Thank you mara51506 for your feedback

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited October 2016

    We would like to make a new, third graphic, and were wondering if you feel these points pull the essence of what you have been saying;

    I am living with metastatic breast cancer and I . . .

    dig for strength and acceptance

    live one day at a time

    focus on what's important

    find new ways of being

    hold out for a cure

    try to find wisdom in the unknown

    find power in anger, grief and love


  • Mab60
    Mab60 Member Posts: 487
    edited October 2016

    I would like to see the graphics better represent those in hospice and those struggling with progression and new treatment. That fear and struggle should be included as well.

    Mary Anne


  • Bluefrog76
    Bluefrog76 Member Posts: 260
    edited October 2016

    I appreciate what you are trying to do, but I think that these still sound so "put on a brave face". And I'm not saying that I don't put on that face most days. But these still shy away from the devastation of this disease. If people don't understand the devastation, then why would they be motivated to work so hard to find a cure?


  • kt1966
    kt1966 Member Posts: 1,326
    edited October 2016

    I agree Bluefrog. It's not a sugar coated disease. It might be hard for people to read more 'in your face' statements about MBC, but it is the reality for us.

    (Or will be sometime for those who haven't progressed or are stable for years- unless we get a cure...)

  • ShetlandPony
    ShetlandPony Member Posts: 4,924
    edited October 2016

    Well said, Bluefrog! Exactly. Mods, thank you so much for listening to us, for opening up a dialogue, and asking for our input. No, I don't think those words sum up what we have been saying. I know it is hard for people to hear and hard to understand. Please re-read the comments from October 11 forward. It is important to see that even as we (as a group and as individuals) hold hope and appreciation for today, we also hold frustration, sadness, fear, etc. Some of us can live a "normal" life and some cannot, and others can do it just some of the time. Never-ending treatment is a bitch. (Oops, did I just say that?) So are cancer symptoms. We know how it will likely end if better treatment or a cure is not found, and we mourn our sisters and brothers who have died of breast cancer. One of many quotes from earlier that really touches me with its honesty is Bluefrog's "I am living with metastatic breast cancer, and I still feel heartbroken every day." Or kt's "I hope for the best, but know one day that's not enough."

    It will be hard for someone who is not stage iv to truly speak for us. And we want to avoid cliches. Maybe some of the women here would like to re-state some previous comments or compose some additional ones with the proposed format in mind. Is it possible to come up with the right words for such a graphic, words that will be true and representative? Words that will help wake people up to reality and motivate them to promote more research and better treatment? Words that will encompass our grief and pain as well as our hope and bravery? Words that will help other stage iv people feel more understood and less alone? Or is the proposed format of sound bites just not adequate? I'm not sure right now. If it is to be done and done well, it will take some careful thinking, writing, and editing, and a clear sense of purpose. I think we need to be realistic and honest without driving people away. We need a bridge, not a wall.

  • Mab60
    Mab60 Member Posts: 487
    edited October 2016

    well said everyone. Mods, I think there are stages to a stage 4 diagnosis. I think you are just capturing initial stages. For some the disease has been significantly life altering, they are sick, struggling, some in hospice and some dying. We will all most likely complete all stages before it is over. You cannot sugar coat that. Representing all of that in your graphic can be difficult and uncomfortable for others to read. But it is the reality.

    Mary Anne


  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited October 2016

    Thank you All for all your wisdom. Agree, it is hard to be hopeful and realistic all in one graphic. Very difficult. We'll work on some things, and get your opinion again.

    With continued admiration and appreciation,

    The Mods



  • dlb823
    dlb823 Member Posts: 9,430
    edited October 2016

    Mods ~ Maybe by juxtaposing the two???

    We hope while we mourn losses

    We are angry, but determined

    We dream, but we're afraid

    Just some thoughts off the top of my head...

  • Mab60
    Mab60 Member Posts: 487
    edited October 2016

    like it Deanna!

    Mary Anne

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited October 2016

    YES, dlb823. That sounds like a great path. Keep the ideas coming! We really appreciate your involvement.


  • DAMON-RVer
    DAMON-RVer Member Posts: 6
    edited November 2016

    November 8, 2016

    G'evening!

    I just joined this Forum last week. After being dormant for 11.5 years, those damn cancer cells 'jumped on my bones!' The first indication was hairline fractures in my neck (cervical spine) and like a robot, I said, "OK" when my medical oncologist advised me to get on my radiation oncologist's schedule--for 10 treatments." Foolishly, I thought since I endure 33 radiation treatments for my Stage IIIA breast cancer in 2004--these 10 would be a 'walk in the park'--by comparison. Not even close--devastating, as was wearing cervical neck collars for six months.

    It's taken me a long time to "process" this new reality. At first, I just couldn't imagine our carefree life coming to a halt. We had been full-time RVers for eight years, and now do that, part-time, along with Christian Volunteer RV work. I'll be 75 this weekend, and it really gripes me that the cancer-related fatigue has me under it's spell. I try not to "fight it" but gracefully come upstairs and stretch out for at least an hour. I hate the way I can't move as quickly as I used to, and while my IDEAS are still running rampant, I just run out of steam and don't accomplish a lot each day.

    I agree with Shetland Pony--we need to raise our collective voices for more $$, more research, more support to MBC--it's like a disease that's hidden in the closet! It's not our fault--we did nothing wrong!


  • Barb312
    Barb312 Member Posts: 113
    edited November 2016

    Hi Damon, I am a few years older than you are and was dx'd almost 5 years ago from the get go with stage IV. I did alright until I started Ibrance. I have mets in bones only. My problem is fatigue and nausea. Anyone have any suggestions for an old gal that has a lot of life in her. I started Ibrance InJuly and it wasn't bad at first. This week has been a awful. Any suggestions would really be helpful. Onc. Does not want me on chemo

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