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  • Wren44
    Wren44 Member Posts: 8,585
    edited November 2015

    Chevy, My poor BIL had hepatitis C, which eventually killed him. At one point, it was affecting his brain. He couldn't remember how to put his pants on. Had both feet in one side and had already put his shoes on. Sad because he was a really smart guy.

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited November 2015

    I think as far as "Betty" goes, she is alright, just has Dementia.... My DD Janie went to school with HER Daughter... Ironic isn't it.... But she is just getting cranky, and only does what she wants to do.... and will snap back at you if she feels like it....

    She just gets confused about dressing I guess.... And going to her room, or where she is..... etc.

    When my Grandma's dementia got bad, she would put on 2 dresses.... It's just such a heart-breaking disease.... I GUESS it's a "disease".....

  • Smaarty
    Smaarty Member Posts: 2,951
    edited November 2015

    Chevy, mine were all "normal" conceptions. My sister had 1 conceived above my dads head when he was driving in a rv. I have one grandson who is a Disney souvenir.

    My MIL will be moving into assisted living soon, we haven't told her yet and she's not getting to decide this time. She's really starting to get bad with the memory loss. She thinks she just fine. I hope I don't go that way. So far my moms mental state is hanging in there.

    Hi blessings. Nice to hear from you. Don't they have sleep centers in S CA?

    Patty, don't cook much in a crock pot, sorry

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited November 2015

    Man,a that's tough.... But the AL where Theresa lives... wait.... this is where she lives...

    http://www.sanmarinoretirement.com/

    I think it is very expensive, but they are renting her home, plus getting her Husbands SS.... and maybe his Pension? But it's about $3,000 a month... I know it's better than a nursing home.... don't know how much they are anymore.... AND she is getting more care, more PT, and more help learning how to take care, of herself, like dressing, etc.....

    She LOVES it there.... But she knows what's going on.... She was brokenhearted, of course when they all decided that living alone would not be happening.... but she got used to it fast......

    Matt & Janie came by, and had our toilet innards in working order in about 15 minutes! I was so HAPPY! New handle also!.... Our whole bathroom was added onto this house probably in the 40's...... Before that, since the house was built in 1886, they all had out-houses.... But we are lucky no more has gone wrong in there than it has! The old galvanized tub is sealed in the concrete floor, along with the toilet....

    Problems under the tub a couple years ago, but we had someone come out to fix that! See, the pipe under the tub broke apart, and we found out when water would be right outside the bathroom wall! THAT was a PITA! We had to knock out part of the lower wall, to get under the tub drain! And THEN put it all back together after it was fixed! But we DID it.

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited November 2015

    Ms CHEVY, I was going to ask, but saw your post

    We are blessed to have flushing toilet, handle or not. I remember having to use this growing up.

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    Squat toilet. To get rid of the waste, you need to scoop water and pour it into the toilet. You may ask how do you use a squat toilet...

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    You squat. I wonder how many people who try to use the "western" toilet do it like the example on the right.

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    Ok,enough gross tutorial from me for the day.

  • blondiex46
    blondiex46 Member Posts: 5,712
    edited November 2015

    Checking in 

    Hey chevy

    Patty miss u, u sound awesome, makes me smile

    Blessings glad to see u

    Miss u guys mostly lurking

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited November 2015

    You likely will be immortalized in a "Paper". If they decide you are so unusual that you are a new syndrome insist they put your name on it versus their names.

    Ms. Sas, your quote to Blessing is hilarious. Why is it that the one who discovered a disease always used his/her name?

    Blessing, hopefully, they can figure out a way to help you with the possible narcolepsy.

    Patty, don't have any crock pot recipe, but I have tried making minestrone or lentil soup in a crock pot before.

    Cubbie, I looked up tag popping....naughty, naughty you.

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited November 2015

    Oh, hi Ms. BLONDIE.

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  • Cubbie2015
    Cubbie2015 Member Posts: 875
    edited November 2015

    Smaarty, that's good news about Nick. I can't imagine how he is managing right now.

    Blessings, I've never heard of a sleep study like that. Sounds like it will be a strange experience, hanging around the hospital taking a nap every two hours. More like a nap study!

    Sas, I usually hate clothes shopping, but I actually like shopping the thrift stores. Since people donate clothes from different eras, it's not the same old styles over and over again in every store, like at the mall. I saw a shiny shirt in a gold print that I almost bought a month or so ago but it was a little too small for me. It just needed a vest or something like that to go with it. I was thinking, "Hello, the 70's called and they want your shirt back!" And I'd respond, "Tell them I'm not done using it yet!"

    Anxiety is still a problem - I have good days and bad. I'm waiting to hear the tumor board's recommendation tomorrow, can't imagine why that would make me anxious! My biggest problem with insomnia is that I wake up after 4 or 5 hours and can't get back to sleep.

    Chevy, I am in the middle of nowhere! Hicks from the sticks, as the saying goes. Glad to hear Theresa is doing so well, and she gets to take a trip out for Thanksgiving.

    Patty, beans and ham and corn bread...sounds good. I love cornbread, sometimes I used to make a half or quarter recipe and just have cornbread with jelly instead of toast for breakfast. Never have had a crockpot, but my coworkers keep telling me I should get one.

    Hi, Blondie!

    Loverly, I swear I'm not doing any naughty form of popping tags - just shopping! I guess it can mean swapping price tags, but it also just means buying, at least as far as I know. I'm not "hip" with the "jive". Where did you grow up that you had a squat toilet? Usually those are an asian thing.

    It looks like the Thanksgiving standoff may finally have ended. One of my relatives has agreed to cook the turkey. I really thought it wouldn't happen, and was pricing those family size frozen lasagnas at the grocery store this afternoon.

  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited November 2015

    pepper Pat I like to do beef stew in my crock pot. When we lived up north I could get what was called cottage ham, and would put green beans in with. Florida stores never heard of this, so a pork butt is almost as good. Go on line and look around for what sounds good.

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited November 2015

    Cubbie, I KNEW you wouldn't do such thing. The Urban Dictionary gives awful definition to even an " innocent" word or phrase. I'm clueless to a lot of idioms.

    I grew up in Viet Nam. Most Asian countries I have been to still have squat toilets.

    We just dropped Mitzy off at the dog boarding. I didn't think it would be hard. It's like dropping my kids off at pre-school She looked terrified We miss her (already)walking around in the house with her tail constantly wagging and the happy howl she makes when one of us come home. We are leaving early tomorrow for Hawaii for 8 days. Really hope this time away from us will not set her back.

  • Rosevalley
    Rosevalley Member Posts: 3,061
    edited November 2015

    I remember going to a picnic and some one made corn bread with a can of creamed corn in it and molassas. Holy cow was that ever moist and delicious. So that's how we make it now. I make lots of stuff in the crock pot, most vegetarian. Hit the internet for recipes Patty.

    Loveroflife- I had to laugh when I saw your photo of the "toliet." When we took the train from Hanoi to Siagon we were on the train for 2 days. I just about died when I went to the bathroom and found a pole to hold on to and a hole open to the tracks below. There was sink to wash your hands with spritz of water. There was little spatters of pee and poo every where. All that mess got tracked back through the train and down the cars. (the cars were all open to the air, hot and humid, sleep on the bunks seat down and one above.) I thought then, now I understand why we got all those shots before coming here. I swear it was just a place for hepatitis to spread.. can't imagine how any Mom taking a child in the bathroom could hold onto the kid.. pee /poo and not fall over. The train was rocking and rolling and all the waste went untreated right onto the tracks. This was 1994.

    Out in the villages those little concrete pads with an opening were everywhere.. squat and go. They say it's easier on your gut and a more natural way to evacuate bowels. The other image I will never forget is of little kids 2-3 years old with their pants open at the crotch. They had a shirt on and then the pants had no seat/crotch... open so the kids could just squat and pee/poo right in the gutters. Which in the rural villages ran open sewage right in the gutters along the side walk. It's a whole different world.

    The other thing about that train ride. They charged the Westerners 300.00 for 2 tickets for the train ride and meals. The Vietnamese paid probably less than a 1/3 of that. Well they made the meals and served them in huge plastic buckets with a laddle and plates. Then we watched them wash the buckets in the river. The animals and water buffalo just upstream. I told DH no way I am eating anything on this train. We brought bread, peel type fruit, water bottles sealed and super processed French cheese in squares that didn't need to kept cold. On day 2 I broke down and drank coffee and condensed milk on the train.DH was like "you are going to die." I told him the coffee was to strong for anything to live in it and I think I will chance it. True coffee addict! It was delicious and no diarrhea or issue! The other Mom and Dad and son sharing our car couldn't believe we wouldn't eat the rice and chicken and food. I am like not worth it..

  • Cubbie2015
    Cubbie2015 Member Posts: 875
    edited November 2015

    Loverly, poor Mitzy. She will be so happy to see you when you get home, though. She will see that you always come back. Wow, Thanksgiving in Hawaii! I'm sure if you have turkey, it will come with pineapple!

    Rose, my niece went to Peru several years ago and ran into the "one charge for the locals, bigger charge for the tourists" thing. Her friend was a local, and when they took a cab, they got charged the "tourist rate" because she was along, and could never pass for a local with her blue eyes. Her friend was mad at the cabbie, saying "I live here! You don't charge me this much when I don't have a visitor along!"

  • Jazzygirl
    Jazzygirl Member Posts: 12,533
    edited November 2015

    Good evening ladies!

    I am watching the American Music Awards and do marvel how few of the musicians I know. I guess I must be old, LOL!

    Loveroflife- I took a trip through the middle east in the late 1980s and we took a bus from Israel over to Cairo for many hours with NO BATHROOM on the bus! I made the driver stop somewhere so I could pee (there is no way I could hold it for 8 hours, just riddick). The bathroom was basically a hole in the floor. I remember how shocked I was and will say I had no idea how to hit that spot either! It was my first time seeing what many people have for facilities in other parts of the world. Whenever I come back to the US after being overseas, I am SO grateful for the plumbing here!

    Hi Blondie! Hope you had good day! Turkey time coming soon!

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited November 2015

    Oh WOW! BLONDIE!!!!!!! Where have you been miss missy? It's okay if you lurk... just pop in to say hi once in awhile...........

    Did you see miss Loverly talking about those.....um......... squatting things???? I mean I am lucky to be able to SIT...Ha! But climb up on top? Ain't no way in h*ll could I do that.

    You have to be an acrobat to do things like that....

    Anyway, how are you doing? We make so many friends on here, but sometimes we accidentally lose track of them...

    And did you SEE, there is a THREAD named after you??? You must go see it...People talk to you all the time...

    Hey Cubbie! Fun post! You are from "nowhere" in the middle of "somewhere' Hah! Just don't pay no attention to them on the tumor board... they don't know nothin'..... All you gotta worry about is today... Not even tomorrow.... except you should worry a little about getting some Thanksgiving Turkey...

    I remember working for Pepsi on the week-ends, handing out samples of Pepsi, and trying to sell it... Well this one Thanksgiving, I was working in a store, in a really poor older part of town.... And I would see these poor people getting a frozen turkey dinner for themselves... It just would break your heart..... and one time I saw an old pair of shoes by a flip flop display.... So someone must have traded their old shoes for a pair of new ones...

    Another time, it was raining, and I would see people with plastic bags on their shoes, held on with rubber-bands.... Sometimes we just don't realize how fortunate we really are....

    You guys.......... WHAT ARE POPPING TAGS? Do you mean switching tags from one thing to another? You BAD girls! Do I have to come over there?

    Okay, get this....... My moron BIL said that when he does self check-out... He looks up the picture... like the cheaper cabbage, and he doesn't click the RIGHT picture like Savoy cabbage .... which is HIGHER! Same with that "Belgian Endive".... He looks up head-lettuce! And only charges himself the lesser amount! I think that is so CHEAP! And I told him so! You know, we could save MILLIONS if we were all a tight-a$ like him!

    He and his equally moronic wife are in Laughlin NV right now.... probably with the money he saves on CABBAGE!

    Loverly... Can you learn to groom her yourself? I did that one with Lacee, and I almost cried when I saw that look on her face. I was watching through the window, hiding behind a display... I promised her I would not do that again.....

    So I learned how to do it myself... I would fill the baby-pool with water, (on the picnic table) and when the sun heat it up, put her in it, and she loved that! Then brushed and trimmed her.... and THAT was a job, because of all her fur and long hair... Even her nails... and she was most gorgeous! In the Winter, she got the tub...

    Morning Rosie... That IS the best corn-bread recipe! Such an interesting story about your adventures... I read about things like this in some of the books... Have you read Memoirs of a Geisha? Those poor people don't know any difference, you know?

    I remember my Dad telling me how the Geisha houses in Japan didn't have restrooms... But you didn't want to look out the windows... that's where everybody WENT! Oh Good Lord !!! The main question should have been "What were you doing in a Geisha house?" He told me stuff after Mom passed away.... Dad was sent to Hiroshima 2 days after the bombing... to help clean the streets with push-brooms....

    Anyway, I love reading what you guys went through.... like reading parts of a book!

    Jazzy! I just have to say, I watched the opening number from the AMA's... I was just plain disgusted with that whole routine! I mean anything GOES anymore! And Jennifer Lopez, is a great talent, but she was nothing but a skanky tramp on that stage! All that grinding and whateverthehell they were doing is really not necessary! Just a rotten low-down raunchy excuse of an opening number.... Nothing usually surprises me, but THAT number ranks right down there at the bottom. And no, I don't know none of that music either... those people aren't normal.... I think the only normal one was Taylor Swift... did she perform?

    Okay, have I complained enough this morning? Ha! Talk to you later...

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited November 2015

    Rose, I was in China in 93, and I saw the same thing with the kids. The crotchless pants. It was quite different. And yes, squat toilets everywhere. Thankfully my legs are strong enough to do that. One communal bathroom where the partitions were only waist high, and a trough that you squatted over,, and you could see everyone's waste floating by. And when I was in Southern France in the 80's there were squat toilets in some of the old buildings. Footprints in the tile work, so you know where to place your feet.

    Squatting on a rocking, rolling train,,, that is,, OMG!!!

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited November 2015

    Well, that cinches it, I'm never leaving the country. Read about India, one of the things the President of india said he was going to do was make a toilet for each family or maybe it was each village. The problem was the people wouldn't USE the toilets. They preferred going in the fields. No wonder everyone wants to move here. The land of the free, the home of the brave, and sanitary indoor toilets.

  • kathindc
    kathindc Member Posts: 2,042
    edited November 2015

    I remember the first time I had to use a squat toilet. I was so worried that I would go down into it. It wasn't bad and there is something positive to that concept. Must say that the ones I used did flush so you weren't exposed to any waste. One a funny note to the first time, one of my DDs had to use the bathroom at the same time. We were in a busy train station and I believe we were the only Westerners in there. All of a sudden I heard my daughter's camera. Yup, see took a picture of it!

  • magdalene51
    magdalene51 Member Posts: 2,214
    edited November 2015
    Holy cow! The trouble y'all get into when I'm not around! Where to even begin! Blessings, I'm having a pj day with you, second in 3 days. Yesterday I did 3 things. Went to early church, then DH and I went to PetSmart for dog food and then to our favorite Mexican restaurant for lunch. I'm still flat on my back for that little bit. And had to have a pain pill to do it at all. We have our cancer support group tonight so I will get up and have a pain pill and a shower for that. Wish some doctor cared enough to find out what is causing this. I'm just useless as I am.

    When I was little, we spent three years in Japan (it was Occupied Japan at the time) so those squatters were common. We had a Japanese house that had been modified to have a gravity flush toilet (the kind with the tank up on the wall). Otherwise it was unchanged: rice mat (tatami) floors, hibachis for cooking, futons for sleeping, and sitting on the floor at a low lacquered table to eat. The bathtub was a 3'x3'3' tiled box attached to an outer wall, and next to it, the floor sloped slightly to a drain hole on the wall. You scrubbed down first and rinsed off before you got in the tub to soak. It was heated by a fire built outside on the wall. The house even had a name: Minnenosakacho. We had a housekeeper/cook/nanny named Kiyoko-San who took care of me.

    Oh, Chevy, I loved Memoirs of a Geisha! It made me feel like I was there. I could almost smell it, Japan had its own smell. Your dad was lucky he got out of the geisha house though. When we went there, my dad had been there for 6 months, and had gotten mixed up with an 18 year old geisha. Her mammasan (not her mother, her pimp basically) came to our house and told my mom she needed to tell her husband to leave the girl. Guess she was losing money. So he came back, and I eventually had two more sisters.

    Oh, and if you're interested in trying the squatter style, look for a YouTube video on a new device called The Squatter. I highly recommend the video, even if you're not interested, it's a hoot.

    Sassy, you know I used to thrift but I had to stop when I ran out of room and DH wouldn't buy another curio to put things in. Mine are packed like jigsaw puzzles. Not an inch of space to spare.

    I think that's all I have today.
  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited November 2015

    Also look for the "squattie potty" that is a plastic stool type thing,, where you put your feet when you are on the toilet to poop. Raises your knees above the level of your hips. They are at Amazon, and Bed, Bath and Beyond. My PCP recommended it cuz it puts your body in the natural position for pooping,, and for those of us with "issues",,, it really seems to help.

  • magdalene51
    magdalene51 Member Posts: 2,214
    edited November 2015

    Squatty Potty

    This is the video I was talking about. Hilarious.

  • Smaarty
    Smaarty Member Posts: 2,951
    edited November 2015

    saw that video, makes you think twice about eating an ice cream cone! 😛

    Since my hysterectomy I don't have the same problems anymore, who knew an enlarged uterus could cause such problems! I know, TMI.

    Nice to see you blondie, say hi at least once a week so we know you're still kicking!

    I visited the Phillipines once which also had holes in the floor. Lucky for me they also had one Western toilet. I made a point of not having my period over there by changing my cycle. Got pills from Gyn to take. Can't imagine being on the rag anywhere in Asia.

    Sassy, they have regular toilets in Great Britain and Ireland. You can go there (pun intended) 😅

    Going to go finish up that table topper. BBL

  • PattyPeppermint
    PattyPeppermint Member Posts: 11,162
    edited November 2015

    www poo talk. Sas hasn't chimed in,? Thought she was our poo expert after all the time de as spent researching it.

    Sas. Hugs

    Chevy. - yea! Totge working toilet.

    Blondie. - big hugs. I've missed you. How are you ?

    Spookie- crock pot beef stew sounds great. I gotta look up that recipe.

    Smarty - moving your mom in a asst living place has got to be hard esp if she doesn't want to. Not sure when we flip responsibilities. From s child of our parents who take care of us, to us taking the parenting role with our parents. Is sad really.

    Lovely - when did you move to USA? Have fun in Hawaii. Of course take some good pics to share with us. I remember my dad and step mom sent to Hawaii and loved it. My dad received an all expenses paid trip from his work place. He worked there 20 years and never took a sick day or called in for any reason. Yes he did tske his vacation days.

    Still feeling great. I know, y'all probably sick of hearing how I am doing everyday. It's just I am so very excited about how good I am doing I can't keep quiet about it.

    Hugs all around

    Hootie hoo


  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited November 2015

    Such an amusing group hahahahh

    Mags will you post the Squatty Potty on Constipation thread please :)

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited November 2015

    Oh Eeeeeeeeeeks you guys! I feel SO pampered to have a working john.... Ha! I'm going to make a fresh cranberry/walnut/jello/celery salad now.... Getting some things ready....

    Got my partial fitting better... I'm having to learn how to ear/chew all over again.... I have teeth all OVER the place now! It's going to take some getting used to....

    Then we went to Murdock's to get some Kerosene for out little heater.... I love that thing...! Then to the Dollar store.... I mean the $20 store.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited November 2015

    Patty, I wasn't going to post about pooping and crock pots in the same post, BUTT since you mock my interest in relieving the distress of the plugged up. I will.

    Crock potts---Rival Crock Pot--Slow Cooker Recipes All Occasions --cookbook. Lot's of fun recipes. But I basically just throw in whatever I have. I've done pork, chicken, and beef. I have the large Rival Smart Pot. Settings for 4-6-8-10 hours. For Donnie and I, I can figure at least 6 meals per pot. Start with the broth. I use 48ozs(varies) Then add the spices. I use tarragon, thyme, rosemary, bay leaf, parsley. Sometimes cilantro, paprika, or whatever sounds good. Usually about 1tsp to a tablespoon of each. Rosemary about a tsp as it's strong. Garlic either fresh or ground. I let them soak in the warming pot for 1/2 hr to 1hr. 1 diced medium onion and 2 stalks diced celery. Meat- beef, usually a chuck roast. I'm use a size that fits snuggly in the pot and then when it cooks it shrinks. Chicken I use chicken tenders family pack probably more than a dozen in the pack. Pork a roast size. Can use tenderloins too. Toss in some potatoes either whole or halved. Baby carrots. Mushrooms, I prefer whole as they will shrink. Whole or quartered onions. Cup of white wine for pork and chicken, and red wine for beef (optional). A splash or a few of white worchester or dark. Cook on high for an hour or so, then turn to low for 8-10hours. All kinds of variations on time depending when I want it done. I don't thicken the broth usually, but that can be done. I have made dumplings. With dumplings you can remove some of the food and set aside b/c you will turn the heat back up to high to cook the dumplings.. Do the salt balancing about 15 minutes before serving to allow it to meld. Start with a teaspoon and work up to what you prefer.

    Chili is nice in a crock pot too. Serving, I use the flat rimmed soup bowls as the broth is usually not thickened.

    With feeding 4 at once, how you will vary what you are doing to get more than one meal out of the one cooking is I suppose practice as you go. What I love about it is it's simple and always tastes great b/c the slow cooking draws out such great flavor.

  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited November 2015

    Well, as you can see, some of us like to cook more than others. I'm a lazy slug. McCormicks dry package beef stew seasonings. But as Ms Gormet said, drop in what you have, sounds good. Turn it on, you're golden.

  • Smaarty
    Smaarty Member Posts: 2,951
    edited November 2015

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    All done. This goes to niece and nephew for Christmas. About 40" across.

    Now I have 2 pillows to do for Christmas. Then decide if I'm going to get a quilt done for a 5 yr old. I can always give it to him for bd in February.

    Dinner already done, made soup. Just need to toast some bread with it. Going for a walk. BBL

  • Enerva
    Enerva Member Posts: 3,162
    edited November 2015

    winter is back I am in hell

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