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  • Smaarty
    Smaarty Member Posts: 2,951
    edited September 2015

    LMG, cute pics of baby owls. Wonder why they rotate their head like that.

    I got bad jet lag this time. Trying to stay up late but still getting up around 5. Crap. Hopefully tomorrow will be better. Need to get my act together, we have the quilt show this weekend, starting with Friday set up. I'll take some pics after its all set up.

    Hi all, I'll also try Wren temps. I've got lovers

  • glennie19
    glennie19 Member Posts: 6,398
    edited September 2015

    Ultram has a lot of drug interactions,, one of the reasons that I don't like to see it used as much as it is. If hubby is on other meds,,, best to check about any drug interactions first. It also lowers the seizure threshold,, so if he has epilepsy,, it is a no-no. Oxycodone or Percocet might be better. Most doctors/dentists don't like to give narcotics, but for short-term use, it's not a big deal.

  • magdalene51
    magdalene51 Member Posts: 2,214
    edited September 2015

    LMG, let us know when they are...

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  • magdalene51
    magdalene51 Member Posts: 2,214
    edited September 2015

    Y'all know if you use that phrase, that picture must be posted!

  • Jazzygirl
    Jazzygirl Member Posts: 12,533
    edited September 2015

    Loverly- I use FB and LinkedIn (for professional, but it is becoming too much like FB these days). I joined FB to keep up with music and yoga things going on in my city and back to using it mostly for that. I had to un-invite some of those old people from high school days who came at me wanting to be "friends" but of course, came with a lot of other stuff too! Social media is another venue for freaks to do there freaky thing.....

    Sassy- I am sorry to hear about your DB's problems and hope things are better soon.

    Weather here is gorgeous too!

  • queenmomcat
    queenmomcat Member Posts: 3,039
    edited September 2015

    Sas: my sympathies! not just the hospitalization, but the happening over a holiday weekend. Gah.

  • luvmygoats
    luvmygoats Member Posts: 2,942
    edited September 2015

    Thanks Glennie. Nope no seizures. Only other med he's on is Prinzide for BP. I seriously doubt he will take much of anything anyway. He's really in great shape to be nearly 65, well except for those darned teeth. For all I know endo may just keep him on Advil/Tylenol.

    LOL Mags. Sadly I don't think my ducks ever look like that.

    Image result for ducks in a row

  • Kjones13
    Kjones13 Member Posts: 1,520
    edited September 2015

    hard to keep up with you ladies! Always reading and laughing. Sas--sorry so many issues with DB. Thinking of you. And thank you for all of your med info.

    There was an update posted on another thread regarding patty. Vomiting daily, very, very sick. I think mo appt today. Needs prayers desperately. Thought you all would want to know

  • kathindc
    kathindc Member Posts: 2,042
    edited September 2015

    Sas, sorry to hear of DB's health issues. Hope he recovers quickly.

    Praying for Patty.

    Smarty, I've heard the longer you are in another time zone the longer the jet lag and I now believe it.Usually I'm not affected but went to Japan to see DGS when he was born in 2007 and stayed for seven weeks. Had a heck of a time adjusting. Took me a good five to six weeks to get back to my regular schedule.

  • Rosevalley
    Rosevalley Member Posts: 3,061
    edited September 2015

    Oy L O N G day... was up at cancer center at 10 and left at 4:30. It started out an icky day and then after whining...things changed for the better! I got tapped again over 3 liters off - they worked me in what luck. Since June 1st they have taken off almost 11 and half liters almost a gallon a month. No wonder I am miserable all the time. Anyway my sats were 93% and I had to sit up to get them 95% and now I can breathe! So sweet. AND the onc made an appointment for a cath placement on FRIDAY and I can then do it at home. Yes it will be ouchie initially but the potential of draining relief at home every couple of weeks is so enticing. Ascites just sucks major. Anyway even the traffic driving home was doable and I always feel a bit weird when they take the fluid off so I was grateful. My ribs hurt and my hips but I can breathe so much better.

    I will pray for Patty. I hate puking. The shit cancer puts us through is miserable. Mags I am glad your DH is better and the antibiotics are helping. I dont do FB or twitter or anything. BCO is it. Weather in Oregon is the same as Wren's.. pretty perfect, no complaints. Sassy prayers for your brother too glad he's on the mend and counts are improving! Take care, more later. Sassy I would send you the address of Davis house except that if the new owners cut down the trees and removed the fence I would feel sad and I would rather not know... better left with my memories of how it looked when we left - a little white house with green shutters and a sweet garden, pretty trees - a happy place. Really it wasn't anything special except to me. Good night owls!

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited September 2015

    Thank you Kjones for the news on Patty. Patty, if you are lurking, I just want to let you know that I think of you daily and pray that God will show you mercy.

    Ms. Smaarty, the last time I had jet lag, melatonin really helped me get back to the local time. Jet lag is always harder come back home.

    Rose, yay for the MO agreeing to go ahead with the catheter. Sorry you had to wait so long to get tapped

  • Jazzygirl
    Jazzygirl Member Posts: 12,533
    edited September 2015

    Good morning sisters- my heart is heavy reading about Patty and knowing many others here are suffering and struggling through everything. Sending big hugs and prayers every direction.

    Rose- I was thinking of you yesterday remembering you were going to get some help with the swelling. I am glad you got some relief, and also glad you will get the tube done so you can remove the fluid when you need to. Hoping that procedure goes easily and is not too painful to deal with. And it is all very awful, cancer sucks!

    Patty- sending you love and healing energy and hope your MO can help you to know what is going on.

    Going to meet a cancer brother for breakfast this morning. He has been wanting a ride in my convertible for awhile, and now that I have that little hit and run issue resolved, going to pick him up for a ride and a chat over an early meal. He has a blood cancer he manages through maintenance chemo. We are all part of the cancer club, like it or not.

    Wishing everyone a do-able day!

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited September 2015

    I'm so sorry about P.Patty! Can you please keep us up-dated? I just want to think everyone is doing okay, and I kind of skip over all the bad stuff.... I don't MEAN to, but It's just that I don't want to sub-consciously know, I guess....

    You too Sass, with your Brother........ And I was worried about my old Theresa... She was in bed for 3 days, but came out of it... I couldn't think of what I would do if she wasn't there to talk to....

    Rosie.... I'm with you...... just pretend we are all there by your side when you are going through this crap......we just want to hear from you..... no-matter what.

    Jazzy! You are goin' cruisin??? How fun! You have a convertible? I've never even ridden in one~............ One time I got to ride in a rumble-seat. We cruised down 16th street, probably in the 50's.... Of COURSE we were showing off.... that was the whole point! I know what you mean about your old house and gardens........ I NEVER want to move.... DH & I sit outside every afternoon for awhile, just talking and listening how STILL it is, living in this neighborhood, and especially with all the trees, lining the ditch that runs by our house.... the ditch has been running all Summer, this year...which is unusual...... Used to be used for the farmers further down-stream, but it's built up so much these past years, I don't know WHO uses this water. But the city keeps it maintained...clearing the water-way, but leaving the old trees, and bushes along the banks. And my gardens are what keeps me going... AND happy! A lot of work, always cleaning and moving things around, but nothing I can't handle.

    Going to meet Janie and Rosie for lunch today... It's only 55 degrees out, so it will be cooler......... Red Robin is our favorite place.... !

    Okay girls........ hope your days are better than yesterday.......... xoxoxoxo

  • Jazzygirl
    Jazzygirl Member Posts: 12,533
    edited September 2015

    Chevy- yup, a convertible. Always wanted one and she came along around 2009. My midlife crisis car!

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited September 2015

    I haven't reached my mid-life crisis yet.......... Although I DID get an automatic this time! Hah! That beats a clutch ANY day... I haven't raced anybody yet....

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited September 2015

    Thanks all for the kind thoughts about DB. Yesterday they did a venous embolization. Result will hopefully stop the bleeding. He lost half the function on that kidney. He's not out of the woods yet. Everyday in a hospital can bring on new troubles.

    Queenie your right never get sick on Friday night, over a holiday, from Thanksgiving till New Years 2nd, or during Superbowl. Now add to the list find out the surgeons travel schedule for at least two weeks after your surgery. Surgeon was out of town for the full holiday weekend. So, DB sat bleeding with a Murphy drip. Doc comes back into town Tuesday, does this embolization. Today he leaves for Europe.

    Patty, so, sorry you are so sick. Praying they can fix the N&V. Wish I could think of some old magic treatment. Maybe...............gonna look.

    Rosie, I understand about the house. My old house in Akron. I could do a virtual tour of the house. I liked some stuff they did. Other stuff I didn't....OH, well.

    Chevy, Have funn with Rosie and Janie at Red Robins. I Love lunch.

    Jazzy, I added Billie Holliday, and Coltrane and Miles Davis pics and Links to P&J. If you open two browsers to BCO. You can go to the P&J click on a link, then hit the back button . It will still play. Then hit minimize.

    Smarrty, ohhh sleep, wonderful sleep.............Hope you get unlagged soon. :)

  • Jacfin
    Jacfin Member Posts: 114
    edited September 2015

    hi there ladies. I have lurked a couple of days lately. I am so sorry to read of the struggles some are having.

    Rosevalley, being able to drain off those ascites is a good thing. I hope you get physical comfort as you masterr this task.

    Sas, your journey with your brother sounds tough. I hope someone is looking after you too as you both go through this treatment.

    Smaarty, jetlag sucks but I hope the holiday memories help you through that and you will be flashing your pics to everyone as part of your jetlag therapy.

    Patty, we haven't had a chance to cyber meet yet but I am sorry to hear you have been so unwell. You are in my thoughts.

    I am struggling a bit. Back to work part time but am in pain and not doing well. I have a very senior government job and there is a lot expected of me. I have been bombarded since I arrived back at work after a few months off. Met with our minister (equivalent to your secretary of.state for ..[insert portfolio] ..) for the first time time today since my return. He was lovely and pleased to see me back. But the political machine takes it toll for sure. My part time week is just my full time + workload crammed into three days.

    My solution......off to Melbourne on Friday for the weekend dressed in an Abba super trouper costume ( which disguises my wonky donkey asymmetrical bust line beautifully) to celebrate my best friend's 50th birthday

    I know I will be absolutely knackered when I fly home again on Sunday but after a weekend of Abba music, I will surely be .......I dunno,........ hearing the drums Fernando.......being the dancing queen.....thanking everyone for the memories.......dancing with the teacher......(spending) money, money, money....and being a super trouper


    Wishing well, lovely Owlettes


    Jac

  • luvmygoats
    luvmygoats Member Posts: 2,942
    edited September 2015

    Too funny Jac. I have a local radio playing on the Internet. Just played an Abba song. I Have a Dream 1979. Hope your Storm Trooper weekend takes your mind away from stressful job.

    Prayers from here for Patty. Barfing just is the pits. ((((Sweet Patty))))

    RosiePosie - Yay for getting that crapola off. A catheter shouldn't be anymore trouble than peritoneal dialysis and actually a a whole lot easier to manage.

    Sassy - how do you do a virtual tour of the inside of a house? I understand if it's been for sale and pics are posted. You have another way?

    owl-lands-on-head-netherlands-noordeinde-4

    http://www.boredpanda.com/owl-lands-on-head-nether...

    Is this the stuff of nightmares?


  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited September 2015

    Google street view search can give you a drive by view of your house. My BIL informed me a whole block of houses my dad built, and I lived in one, was to be torn down for condos. Like a dummy, I pulled it up. I AM SO SORRY I DID THAT.

    Don't do it Rose. It's better to keep it unchanged in your mind.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited September 2015

    Spookie, Rosie already said she didn't want to do it, in a post a way back.

    Lilgoats. My old house that I sold in 1992, was on the market last year. Realtor's can have companies film the inside and do fade in's to each room. It was fun seeing it. Tried to get son to save it somehow. Loved that house. But it's been good down here, but this house can't hold a candle to the Akron one. The OWL, wonder they let him do it.

    Jackfin. Have a great visit. So many here are into music. Thanks re:DB. It was one foul up after another. Hope you can make things work at work. Uniformly it's hard to get employers to understand. Not just cancer, but family needs i.e dealing with a parent, children. You in government and our Tang flying around in Jets, and Jazzy consulting for big companies.

    I found a nice web site on hearing. I was looking for Tinnitus stuff. This doc is the first doc to define Musical Ear Syndrome. He has a whole section on drugs that cause hearing loss. I've had many and on some. Chevy His whole list isn't on the web page.

    http://hearinglosshelp.com/


  • Rosevalley
    Rosevalley Member Posts: 3,061
    edited September 2015

    Luvmygoats- that picture reminds me of our lovely city park Bush's Pasture Park in Salem. There was a family of Bard owls nesting in a Doug Fir this last spring and there were posted warnings. "Owls known to buzz tops of peoples heads at dusk, wear a hard hat!" It was posted on the internet somewhere too. They had enough attacks and complaints the city posted warnings, but protected the owls. Bard owls are big too! I had to laugh since owls are very common here, as are hawks and Bald Eagles. We cram our necks to see one HUGE nest near the freeway. Sometimes Mom and Pop are there and they are so gorgeous. Yes you are right the cath will be grand and I am looking forward to Friday. It should be easy to use.

    Jac- sounds like your job demands much of you, but you also seem to work in music and laughter! I hope the infusion of ABBA music brings you relief and enjoyment even as it wears you out! Maybe your job will allow naps or some work to be completed at home? I feel for you.

    Thanks for the well wishes. Hope Smarty gets over jet lag and we all look forward to seeing the quilt for your new Grand child Evie. Chevy have a great lunch with friend and Janie! Susan be well with your Mom and brother issues. Sass we hope your DB gets through this and back to life as he knew it before surgery. Be well ya all!

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited September 2015

    Well, DBF and I broke up again Monday.........so that means we went to dinner, he took care of the dogs, he did a number of honey do things, and I cut his hair. Today he called and asked me out to dinner tonight. Things always get so much better when we break up. Strange relationship, but it works.

  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited September 2015

    ok Sas. I'll shut up. Maybe permanently.

  • Loveroflife
    Loveroflife Member Posts: 5,563
    edited September 2015

    It's the make-up sex, isn't it

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited September 2015

    Spookie, what? Ijust figured you missed her telling me not todo it?

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited September 2015

    Loverly, usually, but not this time, I was still mad....he was doing lot's of stuff to get me unmad.......making him sweat it

  • luvmygoats
    luvmygoats Member Posts: 2,942
    edited September 2015

    Spookie - don't you dare. I might have to come to Florida to spank you.

    Loverly - not sure Sassy needs even that excuse lol.

    DH and I are always nicer to each other the next morning after I (nearly always me, sometimes him) have slammed off to the bedroom in a huff and no it's not make Essex as Patty says. Just clears the air. Now I will qualify that we will have been married 40 years in March so we know each other pretty well.


  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited September 2015

    LMG :) your right, ain't that nice

  • Jazzygirl
    Jazzygirl Member Posts: 12,533
    edited September 2015

    Jacfin- I can relate to your struggles. I took a project through my consulting work as I was coming out of treatment and it was so incredibly hard on me. A stressful schedule, not nice people, too many demands, sometimes long and unrealistic hours. I struggled through that 18 month assignment, but told myself I could not do that kind of work anymore. Too grueling for me here in midlife and in the post bc world. I choose different project now for my work. The kind where I can work smarter and not kill myself.

    All I can say is after you have a chance to "adjust", decide if you can still do this type of work or see if there is something else at your employer has that would be good work for you, but perhaps not quite so intense. I have observed many women here going back to work they used to do, either FT or through self employment and ending up with something else that works better. We always think we will be able to do what we used to, but I certainly found it was too hard for me and decided life was giving me a signal to change things up. It is health first now and work fits around that.

    I hope things get better as you go along......


  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited September 2015

    Thanks Sass for the link! I saved it in my "Favorites"..... It also named Tamoxifen, as an oto-toxic drug.... I KNEW this.... Actually the drug caused a stroke...which it warns about.... And in certain women, with this "certain" gene, if the "infarct" is near the 8th cranial nerve in your brain stem, that's where you lose your hearing. I just know it could have been worse..... Like my friend Carol, who has Aphasia from her stroke, and it taking so long for anyone to find her.........

    So see? I am lucky!

    And you are somewhat "broke-up" again? You two should write your own story......... You aren't really broken up.... You are just taking a break. One of you got pissed, which we all do, but you kick his butt out for a certain length of time, but then when you need something, or him, it's all over.... Sometimes we ALL get so MAD, we could bite nails.... But if we just relax for a bit, you see the way his hair stands up, or the way he holds his fork, or any NUMBER of things, and you think...."He is mine.... and he means the world to me, and we are in it for better or worse".... and we go on.... as if nothing happened. We really ARE like "one".... couldn't live without the other.... or wouldn't want to.

    Jazzy, we are going on almost 58 years! Sept. 28th....I am so proud! Considering how we grew up, and some of the things we went through, but it's all behind us, the best is yet to come......... I don't know what I would do if he walked out.... for some reason.

    You two just hang in there! Promise each other you will talk things over! That you hate when he does this, and he can tell you what HE doesn't like. You can't make him mind.... You can TRY, but men don't work like women do.... their brains have that testosterone running around in there, and they LIKE to assume the "Boss" position... Women should just look at them, and think.... "Oh you THINK so, hmmmm?" And just pretend that maybe tomorrow you might not have him! Cherish what you have.... You two just need someone to bounce ideas off of.... that's what we are here for.... Now go to your room and repent........


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