INSOMNIACS place to talk in the wee hours

Sas: that's my guess too, in re. the itching. Allergy to the metal in the staples possible though remote....but my body's saying "You did WHAT! You did it AGAIN? Stop that, and stop that NOW."

I picked up my oldest Daughter and her friend, to bring them back to my house, and when they got in the car, I sad rather loudly..... WHAT SMELLS LIKE CATNIP IN HERE???? I was rather perplexed! They just sat in the back seat trying not to giggle... ... I was very observant.... not that it did any good. And then when she was in college up in Greeley, one time that SMELL just reaked all over the whole apartment area....

WHY didn't I ever TRY it? It sounds like soo much fun! I know my Brother did.... but I never even saw anybody doing it! I mean I thought if anyone saw me even just SMOKING I would get a bad reputation !

Thank Dog I am this crazy NOW, and not THEN! I was just too afraid of my folks.... but my little girlfriends were the same as me! And Anna had boobs even in grade-school! I was sooooooo jealous.... I had ONE boob for the longest time.... and finally around junior high, sprouted another one.... and Anna just went on like no big deal! I had to put kleenex in my little bra! And when we went swimming in the school pool, and then took a shower, I stood with my back to everyone, and a towel in FRONT! WTH?

Growing up was so HARD!

And so JAZZY has the nerve to post those.........those hot looking GUYS with their CHESTS AND COWBOY HATS! DAMN girls! Is there ever a time when I will not think that is HOT? Hope not anyway...........

At least WE are going to the movies.... and it ain't the Minions!

Queen- not sure what food has to do with clear margins?

CLEAN MARGINS! No further surgery needed to excise cancer. Now to move on to radiation, tamoxifen and arranging for plastic surgery to normalize the results of the second lumpectomy. And get the bleep staples out. And calm the frantic gerbils in my head down.

Appointment with the medical oncologist tomorrow. Appointment with plastic surgeon TBD, though the actual correction would not take place until after I recover from radiation, which would not take place until after we return from trip to visit family. (call it not before late August)

Now to figure out the clean clinical way of explaining "Looking normal in a bra is not enough. I want to look normal out of a bra, not with one breast and one victim of a shark attack." Thankfully, I had about two breasts worth of breast in each breast...so I stand a pretty good chance of coming out with something more than an A cup on both sides without worrying about trying to put something into my left breast post-radiation. I understand that's the problematic part.

Sas: I did kind of figure that I'm not reacting to the metal in the staples but to the staples themselves, and to the surgery. Again. In the same spot. Before I've healed from the first.

Happy dance for clear margins.

queen - glad to here you are sticking around even after tx to help others. Very sweet. Several people on this thread are not currently taking tx. It is fun. The more you hang out with us the more you seem like family. And we simply can't have family running off

SAS \ queen. - I like the curve / clevage analogy. The curve is a great place for the palm of my hand. Almost like a steering wheel. Sweet spot indeed. Dh is extremely ticklish there.

Queenie, protein is supposed to help with wound healing I was told. Mom and others in her generation told me to avoid seafoods (especially shellfish), glutinous rice, certain fish, and beef after surgery until wound completely healed. I don't scar very well and have several keloids from previous surgeries so I thought I should try to be careful with my diet this time. I love seafoods and couldn't resist resist them one day. Oh boy, paid for it that night. Another time, I just had several sips of the broth with shrimp paste in it, same thing...itching along MX and drain scars. Don't think it's a placebo effect. Same thing with beef ( which I seldom eat). Have heard that beef can triggerinflammatory response (can't find any scientific study, but then science doesn't have all answers) . Food for thought

Queen- clear margins, whoot whoot. That is good news and hoping you can move on to what you need to do next.

Maybe you need to talk to your BS about a plastics consult? I have a chunk out of one boob and it has a dent in it. Nothing I cannot live with, but there may be something they can do for you to help? Worth talking with a PS at some point, even if not right away. I know women who have gone back later for such things, or after recon that has not looked right.

Nice to have clear margins! No more surgery. Sassy you make me laugh... whenever you tell your stories all I can think of is i am so very glad I don't have to work in a hospital anymore. I wanted so badly to leave it all behind and then to get MBC just seems like some kind of cruel joke. I wanted gardening, forests, kids, dogs goofy projects - not meds, office visits, treatments forever... sigh.. I hate to sound ungrateful but I hate it. May all of you in the BC club DCIS- lllc never ever ever progress - I shower you with well being dust and and all the energy I can muster to leave you all firmly on the other side of the fence! Wish I had the real power to make it so forever wouldn't that be great.

Our DD1 foster family shared a huge bag of cherries with us. We are trying to space ourselves... not inflict diarrhea but ya know sweet fat juicy fresh cherries are just the best.. like a sweet nectarine or sunripen tomato.. OY! Jazzy- my cousin had so many biopsies out of one breast they gave her a partial prosthetic to fill out. Maybe an option? Patty it's nice you can skinny dip in the evenings in the pool... that sounds like fun.

OMD!!!!!!! You women are insane! (And I mean that in the best possible way!) I was gone for a few days and it's taken me 3 days to catch up! Because I have to read all the posts just in case I might miss something. And I'm glad I did! I would have missed all those gorgeous guys with those special little curves we all love apparently, and I would have missed the newest Owlette, Queenie – by the way, Queenie, I also had ovarian cancer that wasn't, and I'm dying to hear your story about it.

And may I just say, my body hates hates hates not having estrogen!! It's not just the hot flashes, but every once in a while I have these melt downs that just knock me for a loop. This one put me in a fetal position in bed for 2 days. Still recovering from that. It doesn't take much, just a little trigger and my brain explodes and I am just down for the count. Hate it hate it.

Jazzy, thank you for asking about me 10 or 12 pages ago (LOL!). I am other than the estrogen issues holding my own. (Chevy please don't ask what it is that I own that I am holding, either.) I am slowly doing a little bit more here and there. DH and I are planning a short road trip for our 28th anniversary at the end of the month, maybe just ride out Rt. 66 and spend a night somewhere. You know, to sleep. Because Essex might as well be in Neverland as far as he is concerned. Oh well. Without estrogen I'm probably better off without going to Essex anyway. Too painful.

Okay I just wanted y'all to know that I haven't dropped off the face of the earth, since Jazzy was gracious enough to remember me.

Lover: you're definitely right about the protein! Found that out after the two orthopedically much more involved surgeries last year and I expected this to be no different. Just spread out over a longer timespan. I don't remember whether I ate much seafood after those surgeries, though as the technique was very different--robotic with incision minimization--there wouldn't have been nearly as much visible/surface scarring.

Jazzy: I did arrange a referral through Dr. Breast Surgeon today, as I at least wanted to find out what my options are AFTER finding out whether I'd need a mastectomy or would walk away with what remained of my natural breast. Trying to go into this with realistic expectations, though I hope it helps that a) I have a considerable amount of breast remaining on the left and b) don't particularly WANT to be returned to the size I was before surgery. But that's something I need to ask Dr. Plastic Surgeon.

Doesn't help that I haven't figured out what the technical names for anything are! It wasn't until Dr. Breast Surgeon used it today that I knew what "dog ears" meant.

The concert tonight was just the best. Elvis Costello was good, never been a huge fan of his but do like some of his songs. His wife, on the other hand, is one of my favorite jazz vocalists and saw her in Aspen last summer at their jazz fest.

But Steely Dan was SO good. One of my favorite bands of the 70 and 80s growing up. They were always a studio band, never toured back in the day but have been on the road off and on since the the the 1990s. They have an amazing band assembled for this road show and probably are the closest to creating the sound on their albums of any group I have ever heard. I now see the benefit of being a studio band! They perfected their music. Another thing off my bucket list. Must see Steely Dan in concert, check!

I have a question, why can I remember every lyric to their songs and sing right along with them but rarely can find my keys?