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  • TerryMarie
    TerryMarie Member Posts: 77
    edited April 2015

    The hair loss is hard to deal with, I said at first, its just ego and I'll be fine with it. Easier said than done, I look in the mirror and see Dr. Evil but I know its temporary. I think my feeling about the hair loss is lumped in with my general feeling of being unwell , being scared and not being able to sleep. Lying in bed at night and reading my ipad at 2 am and praying to drift off for a few hours. My mouth and throat feel horrible and its hard to try to drink the amount of water they say I should. I rinse a lot with biotene and have tried the coconut oil. It eases for a bit but returns in full force. Swallowing food is difficult. Had to take Tylenol 3 last night at 2 am for body aches and pains. It's been 8 days since last chemo and I hoped to feel better by now. The level of 'poor me' over here is ridiculous.

  • eheinrich
    eheinrich Member Posts: 792
    edited April 2015

    Hang in there, ladies. So sorry for all that has happened to all of us through this shit storm.

    This round has been less user-friendly for me. So tired. Sleeping ~12h a day. I'm trying to accomplish things in the early part of the day before fatigue slams me. Brain is running slow. Had a PS consult yesterday, kept screwing up while filling out the forms. Blech. I think I've also been spending too much time in my own head. My dx came at a time of major life transitions for me - separated, moved into my own place, unemployed for 1.5 years - I feel really lost. Not sure what comes next. Definitely been rethinking many life choices. Trying to figure out what I want to be when I grow up.

    sigh

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited April 2015

    Terry: I know what you mean about the hair loss. I thought I had made my peace with it but when it actually happened, I spent a couple of days in some pretty serious despair. Then on top of it, your scalp hurts and itches! It seems to be easing a little or else I am used to it. Or maybe it is easing because most of it is out now. I don't know. I was trying to figure out how to clean my scalp. I have extremely dry skin and shampoo and conditioner often left my scalp very dry and a little flakey anyway. I tried the Nopoo shampoo today and it felt good. I am hoping that also relieves some of the itching.

    I am sorry you are having trouble sleeping. I have been meaning to try the Healthways meditations and I notice they had one for sleeping if you might be interested. I took a self hypnosis class a few years ago and I have been trying to use some of those techniques to help me sleep. I think they would be similar. Also, when I know I am not taking anything to sleep which I have been trying to do in my second week I don't watch any TV right before bed since it is supposed to not help sleep. Maybe the electronics are making your going back to sleep harder?

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    just reading through all the posts while I've been sleeping (not shopping) on day 3. I feel better today. Yes, I've decided that we are the loveliest most supportive ladies I've ever had the pleasure of knowing. It is a shit storm. But I feel so strongly that life is so much more beautiful knowing that we are all so different, and yet we find the common ground so easily. I love you all.

    Some time ago Sloth, who lives about 5 hrs from me, referred me to her lymphedema specialist whose whole practice is bc patients. So sad that in a small city like Portland there is enough business for that. I had initially planned to see an OT about an hour away because I didn't think I had the strength for the trip. I had planned last fall to go to Portland, my mother's birthplace, to see the Japanese Garden there, which she loved.

    I have been plotting and planning to try to see the more specialized lymphedema specialist and decided to try to go to Portland at the end of my next cycle. Did the research, and decided to stay in a hostel, of all places, but highly rated and world renowned- and they have a few private rooms. 1/3 the price of a regular hotel room in downtown, and I'll be around young people instead of the mirror image of my old self, traveling on business with no time for life. So I called the specialist to make an apt and turns out she has family in this area and will make a house call for only an extra $20! From 5 hrs away! She comes next Tuesday, as she didn't want me to be in pain for another 3 weeks.

    She will teach me some things I can do for myself, and if it helps, I can see her again because I am now so excited about my little trip I am going whether or not I need more treatment!

    I will take 3 days, so I don't overdo, and leave time for naps. Poor Jack will be left with one of his Furry Friend mommies, who he loves and who has a dog he likes to play with. So that will keep things simple for me, safe for him, and we shall have a tearful reunion upon my return. I hate to miss one day with him. But I think this will be good for me.

    So much writing about me, me, me.

    Shaz I hope you've been sprung from that joint and that you are home with a new battalion of meds to treat your awful headaches. But I am very glad you went. You needed to wake those people UP!

    Diane- still thinking of you and all the pain and worry you are going through right now. Never far from my thoughts.

    Eileen- your dx could not have come at a worse time. Having to redefine yourself on so many levels, practically every level, is some kind of difficult. Right now, don't blame yourself for not knowing, not deciding. Just try to congratulate yourself for STILL STANDING! You are a warrior. Your whole being, lifestyle, self image, your very life itself has been threatened. Lean forward in the foxhole. We have your back.

    To all of you having a shitty SE day, remember you are precious. You are cared for. You are unique. And you are not alone.

    Global hugs going out to every state, Canada, and Oz. xoxoxo

    Katy

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    Trvler and Terry Marie- sleeping is a major hurdle during this time and you do need it to heal your bodies.

    I suffer from insomnia even without steroids and have come to discover sleep hygiene. As Trvler has mentioned, staying off all screens, TV, iPad, phone, pc, is imperative for at least an hour before sleep. There are stimulating lights which activate your brain and you must cut off from that.

    Lavender is a godsend. I sleep with a light cap on, so it doesn't hurt my scalp, and use a lavender infused eye patch which relaxes me naturally. I also take an anti anxiety med when really bad or on steroids. These are available everywhere on line, on Amazon and on Etsy. Works for me. Here's what it looks like:

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  • Karen30
    Karen30 Member Posts: 135
    edited April 2015

    terrymarie- sorry u feel unwell - my MO told me yesterday that he has a mix of Benedryl/Malox/xylocaine that he can give me to rinse with if I get the mouth sores etc maybe you could ask to try something like that if your MO has something similar in his arsenal ?

  • TerryMarie
    TerryMarie Member Posts: 77
    edited April 2015

    You guys have such good advice , I find it more useful than some given by my nurses I see. They aren't experiencing it as we are I guess. I never thought about turning off all the electronics for a while before bed. I will do that. I lie there and think about the strangest things and toss and turn like crazy, and if im lying on a side of my body too long that aches like crazy. But as I mentioned in an earlier post, my moms here and cooking every meal and washing every dish and Im grateful and lucky for that.

    eheinrich: so sorry youre going through such life changing events all around the same time , you need to dig deep and find that strength that's in there and focus on your health, the rest will work itself out. I've been divorced for years and never regretted a day of it. Youre going to have a better outlook once the treatment is done and SE's are gone.

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited April 2015

    Terry: I definitely get way more useful stuff here than from the pros!

  • greenae
    greenae Member Posts: 540
    edited April 2015

    trvler

    Dove liquid soap, extra sensitive works great on my scalp. Loosens up the falling out hair, got rid of the sensitivity and itch. I am freaking more about my eyelashes. UGH. They are falling out fast. Were never long, but they were thick. I guess eyebrows next? This DOES SUCK.

    Hugs

    Arlene

  • Karen30
    Karen30 Member Posts: 135
    edited April 2015

    Is there anything we can do to try and reduce eye lash eyebrow fall out

  • greenae
    greenae Member Posts: 540
    edited April 2015

    A friend gave me Brian Josephs Lash and Brow Gel for chemo pts. I have used it EVERY DAY since the nite before my first infusion, 3/26. I know it was $50.00. And my lashes are going...we'll see about the brows. I am not happy with Mr Josephs...lol.

    arlene

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    mayday mayday.

    I just fell down in my house have no idea what happened but I'm ok. Thought I twisted my ankle but I'm walking on it. I did scrape up my knees and arms.

    Theresa if you're out there or anyone I just cleaned it up and put triple antibiotic cream on it. Is that right. Any other suggestions? I'm alone here but it's not that bad. Just want to promote quick healing.

    Thanks.

  • Karen30
    Karen30 Member Posts: 135
    edited April 2015

    you did the right thing - keep the area clean and apply the antibiotic. You sure your ankle is ok and you didn't hit your head

  • TerryMarie
    TerryMarie Member Posts: 77
    edited April 2015

    Holy smokes! Go lie down and get your bearings after making sure any open scrapes are cleansed and covered. Scary ! I used peroxide on a cut and polysporin.

  • BeatIt2015
    BeatIt2015 Member Posts: 45
    edited April 2015

    Oh Katy,

    Hope you are ok.. Keep an eye on that ankle. Rest..big hug.

  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited April 2015

    Katy, Remember I fell down this week too and skinned my knee. Are we twins? Don't forget about the coconut oil too. It is anti bacterial and anti fungal. And feels good. Not sure about peroxide, it can be a bit harsh and actually remove tissue.

    As for the mouth thing, I also got a tongue scraper. Gross, I know, and sorry if tmi, but when I scrape my tongue all these green and brown dead taste buds come off. Totally disgusting, but does make my mouth feel way better.

    One way I fall asleep great is to listen to either Enya or Emmy Lou Harris, or some kind of soothing music in a dark room with a fan blowing. Just a thought. I also block out all light in my bedroom, even the alarm clock. I take a soothing lukewarm bath right before bed too.

    Just got back from bike ride with my friend Cheryl and sitting on the beach staring at the ocean. Makes me realize with something so beautiful in the world it isn't all bad. Ladies, get out, do something mindless, fun, totally frivolous. Get out of those heads! We are all still here and still alive, and today counts. I passed a paralyzed guy on my bike ride who was riding a flat on the ground bike, using only his arms because that was all he was able to use. Made me feel fortunate I still have two good legs and arms.

    Big hugs to everybody out there having a hard time. I wish we were all closer so we could hang out and be able to support each other in person as well as on this forum

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    thanks all. I am cleaned up and no bump to the head. I just HAD to take Jack to his play date with the Furry Friends. It's only twice a month and he needs it. Being a full time therapy dog to me right now is very stressful for him.

    We had to come home early though. The fatigue truck hit and on top of the stinging I'm just done. So back to bed as ordered. Thanks for responding so positively and quickly. I'll be alright. Just. Need. 💤💤

  • Trvler
    Trvler Member Posts: 3,159
    edited April 2015

    Katy: I am glad you are ok. Be careful! I am glad Jack had his playdate. Take it easy tonight.

    Italy: I like your post. Sometimes you get so caught up in the c, you forget about everything else. I have been enjoying the heck out of my kids lately. My younger daughter (9) was looking at me with my hat and I was explaining how I just want to be comfortable. She said something like 'yeah, I understand. And you look kind of like 'an older woman baby face'. I know she didn't mean to say something that sounded remotely insulting. She was trying to be nice. I just laughed.

  • SueH58
    SueH58 Member Posts: 632
    edited April 2015

    I just wanted to throw in a board on saw on this site - Chemotherapy for paraplegics. Now that's a bummer!

  • Italychick
    Italychick Member Posts: 2,343
    edited April 2015

    Trvler, that is priceless! You can't make moments like that.

  • IndyGal35
    IndyGal35 Member Posts: 340
    edited April 2015

    Oh, Sue. That just puts my universe in perspective!

    I too am sending love to each of you. So many are struggling with losses, illnesses, and miserable side effects this weekend. :(

    I'm finally getting over my cold. We are selling our house in 2 weeks to move 2 blocks west of our current house. People think we are nuts to move in the middle of chemo, but I can't think of a better time to minimize and downsize.

    If there's one thing that this has taught me, it is that stuff is stuff. I don't know what the future holds, but I know that I'd rather spend it traveling and making memories than maintaining a lot of junk that I can't take with me. It's really put my priorities in new places...even if they are only two blocks away

  • DavisD
    DavisD Member Posts: 338
    edited April 2015

    Sharon, I'm sorry to hear you're in the hospital. I can't believe they haven't found some relief for you yet! Where are you in terms of menopause? I had migraines my whole life but as I am now into about 6 months without a period I think I'm finally "in menopause" but not official until 12 months without. My point is I think sometimes estrogen plays a big role in some migraines. Mine have gotten much better over the past couple years...at least something has. I will be thinking of you and hoping they find something to help you while you can be attended to.  Hugs

    Lynn and Jem-Your posts both moved me and broke my heart. I had a couple of years where we had multiple losses and it seemed it would never end. My mother, mother in law, father in law, child of a close friend, my horse and my dog. All in one year so I can relate but never feel what each of you must be going through. We all experience loss and grieve differently. You will be in my prayers.

    Theresa, thank you for the inspiring post. Seeing the man with no legs put things into perspective instantly. I work with the seriously mentally ill and homeless population and I think I get more from these relationships than I can ever repay. They teach me something about courage every day.

    TerryMarie-You described exactly how I feel when I have nights of insomnia, usually starting around days 6 or 7 after chemo. They think it's the steroids but I feel like they should be out of my system by then?? I lay there and feel sometimes near panic/scared, thinking about how am I going to work tomorrow when I can't even stay awake behind the wheel after a night of insomnia? Just know you're not alone and you can always get on and post how you're feeling although I agree with trvler it's best to stay of electronic devices, sometimes it helps to share it in some way. Stop feeling bad about feeling bad lady! We all understand here.  I will be thinking of you and hoping you have a restful night.

    Katy-I hope you're feeling ok after you had a chance for your body to process the fall. Sometimes the pains show up after the shock wears off so PLEASE care for yourself well! We love you and need you in body and spirit. If you love lavender I have a friend with a lavender business. She has some of the best sprays made with only natural essential oils and vodka, ha! I'll send you some.

    I'm doing better today. The burns are healing finally but I still have some neuropathy in both hands making it uncomfortable to type but you ladies give me strength through the courageous ways you support and live your lives. I am forever grateful for every woman contributing in any small way to this thread.  The bracelet will be traveling to one of you in about a week! It's been enjoying time in Virginia but I've had trouble finding a charm to add without ordering online.

    Peace to all tonight,

    Diane


     

  • DavisD
    DavisD Member Posts: 338
    edited April 2015

    imageI have this beautiful ballet wall tapestry I'd like to give to some little girl if any of you have a daughter or niece that loves dance. This was my daughters and she doesn't want it any more. Send me a PM and I'll mail it to you free of charge!


  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    Diane- how beautiful and generous! It will make some young girl very happy.


    About the bracelet. We right now have 12-14 that have expressed interest and I have nine real names and addresses. I may have missed a name or two on those days when posts just whiz by.just send me a pm with your real name and address. I will only share it with the person just I front if you so it can keep moving.

    I am missing

    NinjaMary

    Carrie

    Indygal

    Arlene

    There is no rush and no worries. People can participate in the bracelet even if they can't do the reunion

    It's just a way for us to connect in a more physical way.

    But as it stands now, there are about 50 weeks divided by 13 people, so Diane, you should keep it at least 2 1/2 weeks! You've only had it two days

    Here is the order I have now (it started with me so I'm not on the order)

    Diane, Meme, Shaz, Eileen our hostess, Bekah, Theresa Italychick, Avmom, Amy so-she-did, and Slothabout

    So please, all are welcome. Some are adding charms if they feel like it, others are just going to enjoy the magic.

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    I am feeling a bit better now. I will admit that the fall triggered a big meltdown. Many tears. I went to see my favorite pharmacist (me) and my best therapist (Jack) and though all is not entirely well, this group and our posts keep me going.

    Without a doubt, today has been the worst day pain wise, emotions wise, since I started chemo. The worst

  • Carrie37
    Carrie37 Member Posts: 331
    edited April 2015

    Oh Katy, I'm sorry today is such a shitty day for you. Hang in there...tomorrow's a new day. Hugs

  • BBwithBC45
    BBwithBC45 Member Posts: 727
    edited April 2015

    Katy, please, hang in there. This too shall pass.

    You always have something uplifting to say to each of us when we have bad days. I'm sending hugs your way.

  • DavisD
    DavisD Member Posts: 338
    edited April 2015

    Katy I hope you aren't reading this until morning and you are snoozing peacefully tonight. I ordered the little bed for our bracelet tonight so I'm excited to make my contribution!


     

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    well I did have a nap. Woke up hot. Took my temp it was 100.4. What's that number it's not supposed to go over

  • Jackbirdie
    Jackbirdie Member Posts: 4,693
    edited April 2015

    if I went to the Hosp I'd have to leave Jack alone. A friend could come in the morning

    No ice or anything allowed to disguise the temp right?

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