Rockin' flatness like a bada$s
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ndgirl, not only is it great, it is absolutely essential. How in the world would we ever survive what we have to go through if we can't find humor in our situation?
5 hours post chemo, so far nothing. Ate a big dinner, drinking ginger ale. Not really feeling anything yet.
Thanks for your kind thoughts.
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I'm being tested right now. Done had mammo and ultrasound with birads5. If this comes back cancer after MRI and biopsy I have already said that I will have them both cut off. With my high family history I just will get rid of them and no fake ones at al. My mom had them cut off and was proud to be flat we even had a bra burning ceremony for her
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Survivor, Sounds like your Mom set a great example. Good luck with your testing.
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In the bag for you, survivor!
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One of the things that has kept me (reasonably) sane through this is the ability to find humor in it. I loved this meme from our Facebook group, Flat & Fabulous:
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LOL!!!
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ROFL!!! I love that!
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LOL, that is a good one mags!!
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Bought my first foobs and some pocket camisoles. Expensive, but it's just enough on top to keep me from looking strange when I go out in a tank top (worn over the camisole).
The foobs are Classique Post Mastectomy Leisure Form, sold in pairs. I got a medium (36-38) pair and nothing like my 38D breasts that are in a pathology lab somewhere, but they look very good after months of flat to concave.
The pocket camisole is Amoena Valetta Camisole Bra Top. Comfy bra with pockets attached to a tank top. No swelling yet after a few hours of wear -- maybe I've outgrown that problem.
I got it all from Amazon. Could not bring myself to be "fitted" locally. I'll decide myself if something fits or not.
Advantages of foobs that I had not thought of before: you don't have to wear them if it's too hot, and it feels like clothing (a real bra) rather than tennis balls glued to your chest (that's how one lady described her recon, which looked really good but of course is a numb mass that precedes her everywhere, all the time.). I don't have much numbness except where they took out those nodes.
So, rock on in flatness!
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I love that meme,,, only I laughed only half as hard as I only laughed one tit off!!
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I had a bilateral mastectomy in June, and I've been going through the summer totally flat and am loving not having to wear a bra! I will probably get some foobs for special occasions & dressing up, but I'd prefer not to bother for everyday.
I'm having a little bit of trouble figuring out clothes, though, and thought I'd ask for some ideas. I've been living in patterned t-shirts, which are comfortable and the patterns (floral, abstract, etc - but pretty loud!) camouflage the concavity. I need to figure out some other options, though! My daughter came with me to try on clothes, and we both agreed that ruffles don't seem to suit me, so I think that option is out.
For those of you who go flat on a regular basis - what do you wear?
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Have you seen the Facebook page Flat and Fabulous? You have to ask to join, but they'll let you. I know in winter lots of people use scarves to distract the eye.
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Hi KiLin I am a UNI (only one side mx) but one type of shirt that works for me is a cami with inner cup or "bra" type band inside. I do wear the tank and t-shirts like you do but I'm Mexican so loud for me is not bad (lol) I do wear dark solid color t-shirts also and they hide my flatness too. The thing to stay away from is cleavage and in my opinion is better to try a tight fit since a loose one when I bend over it can be "peered" into. There are other people on this thread that I'm sure will have other suggestions. I love my freedom from bras!
Aurora
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I'm so there with you! I found some wonderful $2 cotton camis at Walmart, they fit snugly across the neckline, with spaghetti straps and they are sooooo soft! Lots of colors, I have a dozen of them it's what I wear most of the time. Bonus is easy port access. After carrying around 44DDDs for so many years (although I was a C until I hit 40) I'm so relieved to be shed of the mamms, I cannot even find words for it. I had been seriously contemplating reduction, but I hate surgery so much I put it off. Then I had no choice. Oh well, one less surgery!
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Wren44, I don't use Facebook much at all, but I should probably check that out. I'll send a request to join.
Aurora - I like my "loud" prints, too! I'm just trying to find other options. Among other things, I need to find something a little more appropriate for the office.
Mags - Do you wear the camis by themselves, or with something over them? When I've tried them on alone, I just look very lumpy and concave. (My ribs now stick out farther than anything else on the front of me, which is not a great look in very snug clothes. I look ill.) Maybe I'm doing it wrong.
Thanks, everyone. Keep the ideas coming!
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My favorite things for work are snug camisoles (I have lymphedema, and they help), with a cotton camisole over them, and then a pullover boatneck sweater. I like the neckline and it is flattering to my flatness. (ha ha) I wear a bra with foobs when I need to (to fill out certain clothes), but I prefer the camisoles and another thin-ish layer.
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KiLin, I have lots of plain old button up shirts in all colors and patterns, 3/4 or rolled-up sleeves, that I wear with the camis during the day, buttoned or un, and just the cami at night because hot flashes. But I always wear long pants, usually just leggings because my neuropathy keeps my calves freezing all the time. Yes, even when it's 100° out. My feet are either so cold I wear socks or so hot I put ice on them, but the heat never reaches my calves, go figure.
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Hi folks. I had the bilateral mastectomy one week ago today. Thank you everyone for your affirmations and help. I still have three drains - came out of surgery with three. I might be able to get some out tomorrow. I hope so, anyway.I am going to like the flatness even more when it doesn't have little ridges where the drains run under my skin! I have a photo I can upload, but this might be the wrong place for it, so I'll wait and see.
hugs to you all.
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Welcome, keepitsimple! Rock your flatness!! -
Hi everyone. I did not choose to be flat, but flatness seems to have chosen me. I had bilateral mastectomy January 29, 2013 (does anyone ever forget these dates?). My main concern, besides getting rid of the cancer, was getting reconstructed so I would look "normal". I had 6 weeks of radiation following the mastectomy and then got the tissue expanders in June 2013. Although that surgery was rough and recovery was hard, I healed nicely and within a couple months was back to yoga, doing handstands and everything. In October 2013 I got my silicone implants. I did not heal on the radiated side. My PS tried to save the implant by resecting the necrotic tissue in an office procedure, but that didn't work. Just after Thanksgiving, I had both implants removed. Again, the incision on the radiated side did not close and heal. I had a large open wound. It took some specialized wound care and about 2 months for my incision to heal. My PS released me from his care a few months ago. We discussed future reconstruction options, which consist of the back flap followed by tissue expanders followed by implants. I figured I would do it, I just didn't know when I would be up for another year's worth of surgeries and all that goes with that. I have recently decided I don't think I will never be up for it. My problem is, I can't look at myself in the mirror and I feel ashamed, especially with people who don't know my situation. My chest is not completely flat. I have areas that are concave and I still have extra skin on my "good" side. The radiated side...I haven't looked at it since the implants came out in December (I have an amazing husband who has taken care of everything on that side for me). So I guess I am realizing that I need to get over myself and just embrace this. I have not ever considered prosthesis an option (before mastectomy actually I did, but once the breasts were gone I never gave prosthesis a second thought). If I'm going to skip reconstruction, I want to be flat and proud. I do think that I will need some kind of procedure to deal with all the extra skin so that I can actually be flat and, hopefully, smooth. I welcome any thoughts or advice here. Thank you!
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Dear Jeny44, welcome to the BCO Forums. We hope you get lots of useful feedback from the ladies here and elswhere on this forum to help in making your decisions for your future. We wish you all the best and a healthy future.
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Hello keepitsimple and Jenny! Theoretically, I shouldn't be here, because I am a Uni, one Mx, and I don't go 1/2 flat, all that often, but I have had a revision surgery done, to remove a Dog Ear, excess flesh, that I was left with, after my UMx. So I thought my experience may be of interest to you, since you asked about removing the excess.
For me, removing that flesh, was the best thing I ever did, I now have a totally flat area that used to look like a shelf, when I sat down and relaxed and the cut nerves inside it were always zinging and annoying me. The scar is thin and barely noticeable now. I have a concave area too, but it doesn't bother me at all, so I will live with that! That can possibly be filled with your own fat should you decide that needs to be done down the track. It is early days for you, a lot of healing and changes go on for many, many months after these surgeries and procedures. There are a number of women around who, like you, have had the implants removed and are so happy with the results.
If you can handle looking at photos, not pretty, but a true story, there is the photo progression from Umx through to the final results of my revision on Erica, one of our members website breastfree.org. It was done under a local, in my Surgeon's office, but it is normally done in the OR with anesthetic. I just hate anesthetic so much, this was the best alternative for me, I had to convince my surgeon, as he'd never done it this way before. It was tender for a week or so, but not enough for meds.
I am so sorry you are having trouble looking at yourself, you're not alone, we are all different when it comes to this. I don't know if seeing pictures of other women, would make it any easier for you. I searched for pictures to familiarize myself before my surgery. I also had a Mother who was a Uni, so I had a fair idea of what to expect, even though hers was a radical Mx and axillary clearance done in the 90's.
Erica's site has lots of photos donated by women, for others to see and use as a reference, then there is the really powerful, "The Scar Project" that you can see on the internet. Some of those pics are very moving, and powerful and show the strength, that we as women have, after going through this life changing surgery.
If you don't feel that is for you, don't go there, coming to terms with all this, is a process that we all have to go through, post surgery.
If you do want or need any information on forms, bras and clothing, there is a great thread called All Things Bras and Prosthesis where a bunch of us share all our shopping discoveries, to make living with one breast, or none, less of a problem when dressing. There are so many innovative comfortable and attractive clothing and lingerie options around now and this group has searched to find them all, and at good prices too!
I do wish you all the very best, it does get better and easier and the girls here are so supportive and helpful, you're never alone! Just ask anything, there will always be one of us that can find an answer. Take it easy, and that husband of yours is a keeper!
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Hi Jenny44,there are lots of options for clothing. Ariom has lots of good advice,, she is our clothing/bra/foob guru.
I have excess skin left from my uni Mx (surgeon did not discuss with me in advance that he was going to do that, he assumed wrongly that I wanted recon) so at some point in the future, I'll have that removed. I have some other surgical issues to deal with first, before I do that. I used to go half flat a lot, but then developed truncal LE, so I need to keep some compression on it and usually I use a breast binder.
You have options. You can go flat some of the time, and you can get foobs for the time when you want to wear an outfit that looks good with cleavage.
It's hard to accept the new "normal". Hang in there. ((hugs)) to you.
glennie
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Hi Jenny44
I am sorry you went through this. I get so upset when I hear stories like this. Drs need to inform women of the high failure rate & risk of infection & rejection with TEs & implants on radiated skin. Actually I am surprised when I hear surgeons suggest this procedure. I thought by now they knew it was not an option to have implants on rad side, that a flap procedure would be the option?
I had a double mastectomy in March. I am thin, was veyr small breasted before, so now my chest is concave & bony. I have a couple indented areas from scars & a couple poofs of tissue. Yeah it ain't pretty. But it is me. It was tough to look at. I finally took a full front pic about 4 months post op. It helped me. I finally let hubby see me just recently. He's been fine with it all along, had no issue. It was me, bald, no eyebrows, no lashes, no breasts....hard to accept at times.
I hope you do come to accept your new body, your new normal. It takes time. All the best to you!!!
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this is me - bilateral mastectomy, no recon, no prostheses, no bra, lots of fun!
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Woo Hoo to you Su! That looks just fantastic!
I am in Aus too, there are a few of us here on BCO, I am in Gippsland, a Uni, but occasionally go half flat.
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Hi Ariom. I am in Adelaide. Just heading off to Madrid tonight for work. Lucky me eh?!
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Hi SuC that sounds very nice! Do you get any time to yourself? or is it all work?
There are some great girls here from Adelaide, on the Aussie and New Zealand thread.
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Hi, All. I visited this discussion a couple months ago when I was first thinking of a PBMX. I was really quite firm on not wanting reconstruction, but have flip-flopped a little since learning about the DIEP flap procedure and even have a consultation set up for next week. However, I'm feeling very much, once more, that it just wouldn't be "me." I feel like it would be due to outside pressure--including from my BS, who tells me I'm too young (46 and single).
So, between last night and now, I have read this entire discussion. I'm not the only person here in my 40s! I'm not the only person who feels a sense of relief at the thought of going flat and not pretending anything! I fully respect other people's decisions to do what they feel is right for them--and I have always felt that going flat is the right thing for me. I am so happy to have this group to turn to. Thank you all for sharing your stories.
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