INSOMNIACS place to talk in the wee hours

camillegal · July 2014

Hi again

Luv thanks for validating my word, I really looked at it and thought is it?

2nd U've got a lot to do--so sweet to stay with u'r dad, this is very difficult for him and of course u. I remember--sending good wishes u find the right place and it's close, that's important too.

Chevy I agree with Wren, except now I forgot what she said exactly but I do remember thing Oh Wren good in my head, or I might have said it out loud.

FBB I love u'r dog and that heart is an immediate see--I love to see pics of everyones pets, I wish I could put pics in cuz I'd show u mine--oops that had a bad sound to it. And u know I'm as lazy as they come so please don't say things like I'm busy.

OK I'm waving (I really do too)

Blessings2011 · July 2014

Nettie – I have sparkly hair, too. That is, if I wait too
long to get it colored!!!

FierceBluebird – you know so much about those gorgeous
kitties! Cute heart marking on your furbaby.

Sassypants – sorry about your computer’s fever. Did you give
it some Tylenol? Hoping for a good report on Schatzi!

Chevy – DH sat down and watched an episode of Hoarders with
me this afternoon. It gave him a better understanding of why Dad can’t throw
out expired food, or get rid of the boxes of crap he has. As far as your
elderly neighbor goes, it is very loving and compassionate of you to be able to
be there for her. But there comes a time when “helping” turns into “being used!”

I agree with everyone else…. Needing so much help is an
indication that she can no longer be on her own. And as far as having her
children EXPECT you to do things, well, they can just get their butts over
there, or haul their wallets out and pay for full-time care. It’s a sad state
of affairs when an elderly person gets to that point, but you need to ask
yourself: what is in the best interest of that person?

You may want to screen her calls. Don't answer the phone. If she can’t
connect with you, she’ll have to call the next person on her list. You can
still be a good neighbor, take her a cake, sit for a conversation, but on YOUR
time, and YOUR schedule. None of that
home-caregiver stuff! It just isn’t your
job. Can you tell I have strong feelings about this?

Cami – hope your weather has improved! I SO wish there was
some giant pipeline from the East Coast to the West, so all the extra snowfall
and rainfall and overflowing rivers could send all that water to us in drought
country!

Smaarty – Ooooh! A great-grandson! Hope he arrives safely,
and soon! Congrats to you and to the new family!

Gardengumby – my Nana lived in Puyallup and every summer I
went up there to stay with her and my grandpa for a few weeks. I always loved
driving around pronouncing names of places…. Snoqualmie, Enumclaw, Sedro Wooley….
And wherever we went, the scenery was absolutely gorgeous! Wishing you and your
hubby a belated Happy Anniversary!

Pawprint – Dad has done the same thing – gone out and
retrieved things from the trash! That’s why we always bring a supply of trash
bags when we go over there, and take the filled ones with us when we leave.

Hi, Wren! Hi, LMG!

Holeinone – Funny! One trash bag at a time…. Our new
motto!!!

Tang! Glad you got a good nap in…. but watch out for those
home repairs… they ALWAYS take longer than you think they will! Hope you are up
to a trip out to the country to do fireworks.

2TA – such a stressful time, I know. You may be right about
the job hunt, and being available to use this time to help your parents. I
always told DH that he would never regret the time he spent helping his mom and
dad. After Mom passed, he told me how grateful he was that I encouraged him to “just
do it”.

You will NEVER regret the time you have spent helping your
folks get settled, and stay healthy in their later years. It’s just a shame
that Alzheimer’s takes such a toll on the whole family. If Mom goes to Memory
Care, can Dad stay where he is? Having her taken care of 24/7 may improve HIS
life considerably. And if he’s anything like my FIL, his days will consist of
being at the new place just to be close to his wife. But he won’t have to worry
that she’ll wander off, or leave the stove on, and he won’t have to sleep with
one eye open.

You are an awesome daughter, and I have so much respect for
what you are doing for your parents…

Blessings2011 · July 2014

Oh, fer cryin' out loud!

I've been on this computer for what seems like hours and now it's 2 a.m.

I didn't sleep well last night, and got up at 10:30, only because the cleaning ladies were here.

I finally got my report from Kaiser on the Sleep Apnea study, and it said that they want me to do ANOTHER, more sophisticated test.... but I can't get in til the 28th! DH was confirmed to have Sleep Apnea, and picks up his machine on the 9th.

BAH!

I took a nap around 4 pm, and woke up at 7 pm. A young woman I consider to be like a daughter to me had called to thank me for a card I sent her. (Her mom was like my sister in high school.) I called her back and we talked for an hour and a half!

By then I had my second wind, and tried talking to DH, whose eyeballs practically rolled back in his head, he was so tired. It was after 8:30 pm...... his bedtime! Old fart....

So then I came in and checked email, Google, Facebook, and BCO... where did the time go?

Guess I'd better go... I have to set my alarm in the morning... appointment at Kaiser at 10:45 a.m. .... crack of dawn!!!!! UGH!!!!

Hope all you lovely Owlettes are having sweet dreams!!!

xoxoxo

Chevyboy · July 2014

Good morning my friends.... YES, it IS morning... 4:40, and you are all asleep, hopefully!

Yes, you are all right! I went up to neighbors... She called, like I knew she would.... and when I got there, I asked her "are you afraid of someone coming in here?" Because I said, the Cable guy comes in, and your swamp-cooler guy, and you aren't afraid!

But she said "I know, but Judy told me to call you!" And it was Judy that told her to tell me to take her for walks.

So I said, in my nicest forlornly voice, "Theresa, I can take you for a walk, down to my house, but I am bringing the walker up for you to use, because I am too afraid, you MIGHT fall, and I'd have to drag you back

home, by your heels, and it's too hard with my cane!"

Then she laughed, and she then said, I walk all the time around HERE, I go empty the trash, I walk in the stores, and in church, so I don't need to walk anymore! I said "don't tell Judy."

No, Blessings, you are right... I realized NOW, that she should NOT be on her own... We'll see how long it is before Steve or Judy make this decision FOR her...

She is going today to Beauty Shop.... then Judy takes her shopping tomorrow... Then shower time... then Church on Sunday...

What I CAN do is let the answering machine pick up calls, and see who it IS first... Ha!

She IS using everybody... She did this years ago, when I used to do her hair! And then taking her to the store... but I got too afraid she would fall 2 YEARS ago.... SHE didn't, I DID... walking back from seeing HER.... Ha, ha!

I went up there, and said.... "I don't think that guy has time to attack us before Steve gets here!" So I stayed 1/2 hour, and that plumber guy was just doing his job, and not us....

Steve got there, because I told her that guy looked fine to me, and I would stay 1/2 hour, and then go home, because I was cooking beans and peppers.

MY DH is losing patience with her... even more than me!

I'm not even CALLING to ask if her drains are running now!

My DH would be a hoarder too! I mean he has all his shirts that he ever HAD I think! When they look to faded, ragged, I tell him, "Okay, that is a garage shirt... keep that one out there... It is a lawn-mowinggarageshirt, so don't wear it anywhere else."

He always says "Oh I've seen guys wear worse than this, and with no buttons on them!" And I say "Those are your bar buddies, and they probably don't have a wife that cares about them or how they look, and you are NOT homeless!"

If he wants to look like that, HE can go up to Theresa's.... she couldn't see what he has on ANYway.... I know.... shame on me.... but it was funny, when I thought of it. I made myself smile....

WrenI'm 1/2 scared of Judy myself! She is a bitch, and a boss, and I don't like to be around her! She bosses Theresa ALL the time... So I just might be sneaky and under-handed, and stay clear away from her!

I love your Terrier Fiercly! She looks just like my Grandma's dog, that I took when Grandma had to move away to assisted living! SHE later got seizures also! I gave her pills, but they became constant... I held her when I had to put her to sleep... Oh Geez, I hate thinking about this..... She was older also....

Cammi! I don't have a "silver tongue"....! Ha, ha! I'm just nuts.... that's all... I like to make people laugh... sometimes, like I said, I get close to knowing what you are talking about... but no.... your "boos" doesn't have a clue what you are talking about.

He probably doesn't care... he probably loves you, like a way-ward kid, so anything you talk about is okay. He probably brings you treats.

Love you Tang... Just draw your eyebrows in.... I do 1/2 of mine anyway. I use a little eyebrow brush, and shade in dark shadow very lightly... then I have a tinier brush, like with one bristle, and with eyeliner, or even just plain old ink, you can get from a craft store, I draw little hairs in there... in where I put the eyebrow color.... You can't even tell.... honest!

My DD in Orlando is having "issues" with oldest Son... GEEZ I hate when 2 people I LOVE are not getting along.

They are both alike, which is the problem.... Both very opinionated, and both hell-bent on proving they are right.

He lives with his girl-friend, so that should be no problem, right? (again) And I don't want to know the details... I don't think a "family meeting" is the way to do it... I think she should just step away for awhile...

Don't try and be the Mother figure all the time... write him a sweet little caring note, and mention to him that "Although you are driving me nuts, I still love you"..... and blah, blah.

I hate confrontations... Always have... so if there is a beef, I am outa-there!..... Yes, HIO.... just like that! I feel like she always wants to be the Mom...

He has to make it on his own... he is 28.... bought a home with his GF, 2 blocks away, but for some reason, "Mom" is involved in everything...

Littlegoats..

Yes.... I'm always in bed early, and get up about 4... but I love it like that...! Wish it WAS beauty sleep....Ha!

222222222222nd....

So sorry you are going through all of this.... I know how you feel.... I think it happens to all of us, sooner or later... and yes, it CAN be heart-breaking.... It was easier with my Grandma, when I had to move her to assisted-living right from the Hospital, because we all thought she would go back home....! But Dementia took over.... got really bad... and she couldn't go home again.

Then when my Mom passed away, Dad got really bad also, but I promised him I wouldn't put him in a nursing home... but he kept falling, etc!... So I had 24 hour care go in.... THAT was expensive...

Then .... (long story) that had to stop.... But he kept going to hospital for everything going wrong!

And things sort of took care of themselves.... I guess you could say...

Like they say, "Time heals all".... something like that.

FierceBluebird · July 2014

Kipper is my dogs name. His ears used to flop over and then one day they were both standing up!

Helping my parents move after 50 years of hoarding by my dad was a nightmare. We too used to have to cart home all the bags of trash and crap in our pickup truck so he wouldn't take it back in the house. Once when we filled it with Christmas crap we were driving home down the highway and I panicked worried that my husband didn't secure the bags and they would be flying out the back. He just laughed and drove faster saying "merry Christmas for all!"

Ok, off for a day of testing. MRI and scans. Prayers appreciated!

sas-schatzi · July 2014

Owls passing a bladder stone. Not fun. At least I have this kindle and the tv in the bathroom. Same station as the tv room. Ah and pain meds too.. but it does not touch pain when the wave hits.

Chevy I agree with everyone that says not to walk with lady for all the reasons that each has given. So much good advice from so many. Please do not try to talk yourself into doing stuff.

The woman saying her dil said to ask you. Ask dil if she really said that. Classic manipulation.

Making head way . Possible I passed it with the last wave. Whew that would be the fastest . Only about two hours. Hoping.

Smaarty · July 2014

So this is Bradley, big boy, 8 lb 12 oz, 22" long, July 2 at 12:15. They were hoping he would be dark not blonde, so not the daddy they were hoping for. I got to listen to the last few minutes just before he was born.

Good luck FFB with your tests. Sass, sounds pretty painful, hope it passed. Everybody else, have a good day.

sas-schatzi · July 2014

Yay. I did pass the major portion of the stone. I can tell because of the symptoms. The next hours will tell if there are any fragments.

Been through this twice before. One passed intact. Very rare. Minimal symptoms after it passed. The second passed with shards then passing over four days.

Wow the relief is so major. Damn . So wish I did not keep having these learning experiences in real time. It makes it easier to know what to do and I will be able to help someone else.......but not easy way of learning.

gardengumby · July 2014

Sas - my hubby's last stone was too big to pass and wouldn't shatter. they had to cut through his back and into his kidney, cut the stone in pieces and extract it through his ribs. Be glad you could pass the stone!!

sas-schatzi · July 2014

Smarrty What wonderful news, congratulations to everyone. Beautiful baby.

Maddie praying for you. Your such a great daughter. Think you are right about timing. Or at least it certainly is happening this way.

Bluebird I agree about no one posting on your thread. Your explanation of Chimera is very good, but it is still way difficult to understand. There have been several shows on tv over the last year's. The shows did the explanation and it was fascinating.

Chevy ....normal abnormal variant... lol. Yes it seems a far out phrase, but it does make sense. The definitions of the words contradict , but it is the shades of gray that allow them to be used together . If I wrote out the full explanation it would be very long. Like chimera lol.

Stone. Worst is over. Still have some effects.

Chevyboy · July 2014

Oh good GOD girls! Eeeeeks! I can't imagine! I don't want to....!

Littlegardens, I didn't know they did that! I had heard they can put you in a tub of water, and "zap" the stones, with something.... Am I dreaming this?

Sass, that has to be sooooo painful!

Beautiful little baby Smarty! I'm not even going to ASK about the "Daddy they were hoping for."

That's funny Fiercly! About Christmas decorations blowing all over! Loopy

Okay Sass, I'm not going to walk with her.... I don't even like using my cane mySELF, much less dragging someone else along with THEIR cane! I don't want to mess with her DIL.... she is like a bull-dog.... I mean she should be a drill Sergeant!

Going to meet my child-hood friend with DD for lunch, and then coming back her to watch another movie.... Y'all can come by if you want to?

sas-schatzi · July 2014

GG . Yup, I agree. Very happy right now. Oh what a relief it is. I have worked in the operating room on hubby surgery. Very big deal surgery.

What is your advice on new computer.? So many comments here and from others about iPAd. Why is that? Very interested to know. I would not know what an iPAd was if I fell over it.

Smaarty · July 2014

iPad is like a computer, a little bigger than a kindle fire. Can't replace a PC if you do other types of things on a PC. I have embroidery, publishing, and photoshop software on my PC, you can't get that with a tablet. The new Surface might be good if you can load software on it if you need it. Depends on what kind of stuff you do. Go to a Apple store and check it out.

Are you anywhere where that hurricane is coming in?

sas-schatzi · July 2014

Chevy, daughter maybe a bulldog, but she needs to hear that the woman is attempting to manipulate others by lieing if she is lieing about daughter telling her to call you . Have no idea why that number is there and can not erase it. Kindle?

Pawprint · July 2014

FBB, I love the markings on your dog, and the story about his ears flopping, then sanding straight up. Best wishes for you today for clear scans, MRI , and good test results.

Sas, omg....I have had kidney stones, and I'm sure your bladder stones hurt just the same. I hope it's completely gone, with no fragments.

2nd, you are dealing with so much trying to help your parents. My heart goes out to you. It's sad that people go thru so much as they age.

Smaarty, what a cute baby. I know there is a story about who the father is???

Good luck on your sleep study Blessings.

Hugs to all of you owlettes.

camillegal · July 2014

I can't keep up, (screaming) OK here goes.

FBB t us know about u'r tests and hope everything is better.

Blessing u'r the sleep one, u have to go again. Crap

Oh Sas that is so painful

2nd Good Luck, it's tough

What am I talking about today, I read everything and pretty much forgot most. WTF I don't like this-what don't I like.

Chevy just take care of u'rself the chickens need u, they're some of u'r responsibility now Remember that.

OK phones ARGGGGGGG

camillegal · July 2014

sas-schatzi · July 2014

Blue, good luck on scans ...missed that. New add on tv about Agenus(?) Producing a new drug. Sounds like it may fit your scenario. I can not search, but thought it would be good to tell you before I forget.

My problems with computer apparently started before my searching on Sat. At least I can feel less guilty about it.

Thanks Cami an PPT. And everyone about stones. Looking good at this point that shards are not a problem with this one.

Back to computer . Talked with geek squad person at Best BUy learned iPAd not for me because I can not use my tech service or transfer data from my computer.

Spookiesmom · July 2014

Nurse Spookie checking in.

I tell my mom to drinks lots and lots and LOTS of water! Not coffee, soda, or "other" stuff

Spookiesmom · July 2014

Oooops, my paw got in the way. My mom gets UTIs a lot. So I make her drink water. We spend a lot of time near the potties, but it helps!

Mom also says that hurricane thing is close to you Sas. I don't know what that is, mom says I could get blown away, if we get one I'd need to wear my leash!!!!! Can I send my brudder to you without his leash?

luvmygoats · July 2014

Gadzooks You all have been busy beavers since last night.

2TA - I believe absolutely that a job has not come your way yet because of sit. with your mom. I believe that God knew that was the plan and has something waiting for you. Hope the new place works out well for her, your dad and you. If you 2 like it that is what is important. Good care for your mom. You never know, maybe a job will pop up thru her new living place.

Oh Yes Blessings - that was my thought. Take the trash bags out with you. Love the one bag at a time. When I get my arse up from here I have to get the Goodwill bags out to the car. Trip into town tomorrow for about the last time in the next few months so I want as much gone as possible. Need to search the storage boxes under the bed for some quickie items. Hope you get back in quicker for your extended sleep study.

I know the feeling. I am a great night owl. Go to bed late, get up late. Just not what the world operates on or my DH operates on. If you told me I had to be in bed by 9 pm for something the next day I would be toast (or well drugged with something, anything!). 4:40 am Chevy, 3:30 am my time - I'd only been in bed about 3 hours.

Chevy - does your answering machine give you an option for a special "tune" for calls? I have DH/DD's on one, an annoying company for another and one for everyone else. I don't even have to move to see who it is. Love it.

FIERCELY ONE - yes caps. In your pocket for your tests today. Can you feel all of us wiggling? Ok, who just said they gotta go potty?

Oh yeah, Sassy, my thoughts too. Make it sound like DIL said it. Classic manipulation true. Esp. as Chevy says she's half afraid of DIL. Bet her MIL is as well. So pass it around to Chevy. But I don't agree about asking DIL. DIL might get the bright idea it is good idea even if idea is 2nd hand and then you're in it deep. Better not to step in it at all.

SassyPantsinPain - sorry you're having that today. Kindle, TV and tons of old magazines (can you tell I cleaned those out yesterday?) Are you getting tons of rain? Send some our way.

Smaarty - beautiful great grandson. Bradley - good name to grow into.

Nope Chevy - the tub of water and heavy duty sonic waves to blast kidney stones. You didn't dream it. GG's DH evidently had one too big or made differently. A judgment call by the nephrologist (I guess who does it or directs it as least).

Sassy - doubt it was your "surfing" time. Probably was just the old geezer laptop's time. I saw an ad for a surface ?tablet - can you tell I know nothing about these things. Had DH look it up - I gagged literally at the price. Will keep on with this desktop and DH's spare Gateway we bought at BestBuy a couple of years ago. Only thing is it weighs a ton to me.

Cami - you crack me up. Hope you have a good day.

Nettie1964 · July 2014

I don't know what's up with me, I just got the "can't keep ups"!!

Sorry, ladies, I just haven't been "with it" these last few days!

I read, but can't remember who said what, so I haven't posted responses! Normally I would open a word document and respond as I read but haven't had time lately!

Still working on getting my back pain to go away! I'm seriously thinking about taking a break from treatment and see how long I can make it! Have massage(torture) session today, have to endure a whole hour, he said he didn't have enough time to address things in just 30 minutes! Wish me luck, not sure I'll make it through without crying in pain!

Chevyboy · July 2014

Okay! Went to a great lunch, then came back here and watched another Shirley Temple movie! "Rebecca of Sunny-brook Farm!" She is sooooooo cute!

Sass, "Judy" is the DIL.... She DOES boss Theresa around! Tells her NOT to go downstairs, but she does anyway, AND Theresa usually minds her! I know the way Theresa is.... But Judy is even MORE stubborn then Theresa.... but it's not my problem... not anymore...

I set my phone to ring twice, then the answering machine picks up.... THAT way I will hear who is calling! Both of our Daughter's know this now.... THAT way I won't run to try and find the phones anymore.... Ha!

Nettie, does your therapist put heat or ice on you, before or after treatment? I don't think I could go back, if this isn't working for you... Have they said what is exactly wrong with you, or did I just miss it... ?

Sass, I have ONLY had a desk-top computer.... I HATE when I have to use DD's laptop, like when I am in Orlando.

Smarty is right! I can do, and save EVERYthing on this Dell.... I bought a huge monitor, and I love it all.... It's about 8 years old, and still works perfect. It came with Vista, and I have Norton for Security. I only paid about $700 for the whole package years ago.... I bought it at Walmart.... Don't laugh girls....

I can HEAR you Cammi! Is that ME falling through that door? That looks like a dog-door.... but you are INSINUATING that it is the chicken-coop! I KNOW you! xoxoxoxo

Chevyboy · July 2014

Just like this one!

sas-schatzi · July 2014

Lmg, realized I had problems with mouse last week. Thought about a new one. Probably was a clue something was up. Oh well it is always something.Stone likely related to med adjustment for thyroid or damage to parathyroid from falling over SCHATZI a bit ago. Amazed I did not break my neck. Soft tissue and vertebral pain extensive,but survivable. Better than paralysis.

Nettie hugs

Spookie put me on your calendar for July 9th .nothing should interfere. Oh yeah, drinking lots lol.

Tropical storm Arthur. RAIN bands for last two maybe three days. Gentle. Low winds. Best type of storm. Hope all up north have it as easy.

sas-schatzi · July 2014

Chevy,lol I have a 13 inch Hp. Love it. Had the big Dell. Going for small and portable. Will do best buy. They have a sale for the fourth. So, I lucked out in that regard. Plus, their geek squad can do all the transfers. With purchase I can get access to them.

Omg and Chevy thanks for ideas on phones. Suggesting to son, phone for birthday. But have hinted for two years.. this time going to be more direct lol.

camillegal · July 2014

Nettie u'r getting more like me forgetting after reading and I can't double screen or it would be great. Yea BTW do we know what's the problem with u'r back??? Remind us please.

Chevy that is a chicken coop and I wasn't insinuating anything I was exposing the facts. That's right nothing but the facts.

I really like that name Bradley it is a name that a baby grows into and a strong name. I didn't think of that when I had my first one and as an adult it's sounds childish Jodie, not lovin' it. Leslie is a much stronger name and both of their name can be male or female, I did think u never know if there might be a gender change so they were ready with their names. That I thought of.

How did everyone's tests go and massage go today.?

BBL

camillegal · July 2014

Anyone waiting for u Chevy?

Chevyboy · July 2014

OH? You thought I would MISS that? I suppose that was for me.... right?

Okay Miss Cammi.... This is you and me.... except I really WAS a LD operator.... from about 1955 to 1958! Ha, ha! Except this Pic is even earlier than that... BUT the head-sets and boards were just LIKE this! I left in 1958, right before our first one was born.... and about the next year, Direct Distant Dialing went in... So they didn't need "operators" any more... Just for "Information"..... and even THAT is probably all automated, or you can find anything online now!

Cam, is this like the phone you use now? And we had "party-lines?" Remember that?

Or maybe this one?

Sass, I just saw that sale at Best Buy online...! But I decided to try and download the program with Dell... "System Checkup".... supposed to help a LOT of issues... I just wish I knew someone who could tell me if I need like 3 photo programs, or what else I could delete, or un-install that I don't need. My computer with Vista runs really well, but I just thought of trying THIS, rather than buying another one... yet.

Nettie1964 · July 2014

You ladies are giving me a good laugh.

I do not know the cause of the back pain. Educated guess is tissue, fascia damage from rads wreaking havoc on my scoliosis and the trouble is migrating down into the hips.

You all know I.should have a scan but ALL the drs say no. I see my MO in August, maybe some scan will be ordered then. Until then I've been seeing massage therapist and chiro weekly, which is getting very expensive. I decided to give myself next week off to see if maybe over stimulation is adding to the pain.

Dang...I'm so sorry..it seems all my post lately are all about me.

INSOMNIACS place to talk in the wee hours

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