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  • RunFree16
    RunFree16 Member Posts: 856
    edited May 2014

    Thanks Annie, I do know about Jeff Galloway!  I have his marathon book and even chatted with him at the expo when I ran the Disney Marathon in 2012.  But I've never really committed myself to doing walk-run all the way through a race or training run.  This will be a first, if I can do it.  Like Donnabelle, I'm generally pretty competitive with myself about running the whole way, even if I have to slow down.  But I am convinced--in my head at least--that the wear and tear during this half will be worse if I don't take regular walk breaks as Galloway explains.  Thanks for the encouragement!

    On the subject of YOU, Annie, reading through six weeks of this thread tells a really inspiring chronicle of your progress!  From running a mile or mile and a half in early April to running the 5K distance on your own many times to running a race, wow!  This is what is so great about running.  And we can do this again and again, take breaks from running and then get the conditioning back.  Stories like yours are really powerful to me. And that is one gorgeous picture of you and your daughter.

    Two other things I really liked in my review of the past weeks:  sandpiper's 75 thoughts of runners, which really made me laugh, and stillrunning's dark humor tee shirt that said "Keep your eye on them, they tried to kill me!"  Early on after my diagnosis, I'm not sure that would have made me laugh, but it was a spit-take guffaw when I read it yesterday.

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited May 2014

    RunFree you can do it! I remember the Niagara Falls Womens Half 2012, where I had run maybe 40k total since January and here it was June and was really not at all prepared. I told myself, well, there's two bottles of Niagara wine in the loot bag, and I can always stop at 10K (it was out and back and out and back, with the start and finish in the middle of the course running along the Niagara River, so the 10K was approximately at the starting/finish line). I surprised myself running the first 5K, but 50:50'd the second 5K and felt not-bad, so I decided to continue. I progressively walked briskly more and ran less as it continued. At about 15K, as far as you could get from the finish line, it started to drizzle, and I was pooped, but there was only one way to get back: walk! It was okay. Slow, but okay. I think I did 3:15. I have never been so exhausted, and starving. I remember 5" diameter cookies at the finish line and I think I ate it in two bites. However, unprepared as I was, I did not sustain any injuries beyond the expected fatigue. You will be proud of yourself when you've done it!

  • RunFree16
    RunFree16 Member Posts: 856
    edited May 2014

    Thanks Goldlining, that's a great story!  This is a point-to-point race, which scares me a bit because it's going to feel like a loooong bus ride.  But I will try to ignore that and think about your experience.  Also I will pack some food!  In my previous half, something funny happened.  I had a slim little plastic tub with two fig newtons in it.  When I opened the tub at about mile 8, I found they had been jostling around in the tub and had been shaken and reformed into about half a dozen chick-pea-sized perfect spheres.  Sort of a physics experiment I suppose--thought you'd appreciate that.  Yes, of course I ate them!

  • Donnabelle
    Donnabelle Member Posts: 198
    edited May 2014

    Hi Runfree, so happy to see you back!

    I am going to be in the same boat with lack of training for the Disney half in August. Surgery (this Wed) will keep me from running for 6 weeks and then I will be traveling. I'm not really a big runner when I'm in a new place where I am not familiar. I need Goldlining to give me some tips on that! I will be in Italy, and it will be very hot. As previously stated, I absolutely HATE to walk during a race, but I am deciding that Disney is not going to be a race for me, it is going to be a fun time! I will enjoy it walking and running.

    BTW, before traveling to italy, I will be in your neck of the woods for 2 weeks at Newfound Lake. Too soon after surgery to do my favorite run around the lake :( but I will have some nice walks.

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited May 2014

    Chickpea Newtons! Definitely eatable! Fig Newtons generally don't appeal to me, but I find during and after a run, I will eat and drink things I would never eat otherwise! I have not warmed to Gu / Clif Shots yet but I do take Shot Blox.  

    (I run with so many pockets filled with stuff. I look like Inspector Gadget. I figure I might be able to do a full marathon if I had space to fit another pocket with a sandwich!)

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited May 2014

    Oh my gosh Donnabelle, I bet it will be fabulous running in Italy! This is where your Nike+ or Garmin or whatever will be super, to map your run for all time! (I do NOT use the Nike+ for real-time mapping because it costs a fortune for the data to use GPS maps on roaming.) What I do is orient myself to the lay of the land on Google maps on the laptop, maybe make a screenshot or two on my phone to carry with me, sometimes print a one-sheet page with that part of the city on it. I may try to preview some of the main streets and compass directions and tall buildings near my base ahead of time and then sort of memorize a plan, like "run along the river until I get to X street, then take a right to the castle, run around the castle, then along the boulevard back to the river" etc. I have also learned to take a transit pass or transit fare in case I get turned around and discover I've run 12km all one way, instead of turning around in the middle, as I've thought. 

    It's funny about the heat - I found running in 35C 98% humidity in Singapore was not as bad as I thought. It was a matter of begin instantly drenched in sweat, and I think that was helpful! But I also ran later in the afternoon/evening because of the UV. You're obviously used to heat in California so I hope Italy won't be too bad. The DL HM will be great because it will be a relief to be on the other side of your surgery and recovery!

  • RunFree16
    RunFree16 Member Posts: 856
    edited May 2014

    Donnabelle, I live about ten miles from Newfound Lake!  The Disney half will be fun and I think those are great ones to do on a walk-run basis, because lots of people do.  I agree with Goldlining about running in Italy, or at least taking long adventurous walks.  I'm jealous of that trip!  I went to Italy for five days nearly 30 years ago and I've been itching to go back ever since.  My running tourism is coming up too.  I am going to a conference in St Andrews, Scotland, in July, right by the same beach where they shot that famous scene in Chariots of Fire.  Perhaps I'll run there, get it on video, and slow it down!

    Goldlining, I love the image of you running with your pockets full of food!  Maybe a sub in a fanny pack?

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited May 2014

    FYI anybody, runDisney just announced the Star Wars Half Marathon weekend Jan 15-18 2015. 

    It's not for me as I'll be in Florida, but for those who might like a California weekend in January, or who are crazy for Wookies, there you go!

  • Oncearunneralwaysarunner
    Oncearunneralwaysarunner Member Posts: 252
    edited May 2014

    it had been great to read what everyone is up too. I have been reading but it's been a crazy month with returning to work and I haven't had the time to sit down and post. I hope everyone's training is going well.

    While I never thought to add it to our list because I wasn't actually running it, I participated in the Ottawa Race Weekend Family 2k with my daughter, mother, mother-in-law, and my grand-mother. Ok, let's be honest here, my almost 95 year old grand-mother was pushed in a wheelchair :) It was a fun event yet bitter sweet since I wasn't doing the marathon this year. I ran the marathon last year and it was my last big race since I found my lump three days later. That's ok, I plan on doing the marathon next year and be back better than ever!

    I did find some really cool stuff at the race expo that I thought I would share with you. I found a new product that I wish I would have found last year because it would have been great for my bald head. It's a cooling towel by CoolCore (www.coolcore.com). The larger towels made from technical fabric, similar to a running shirt, can easily be worn as a head scarf and it says in place when you run. The great thing about these towels is that they are chemical free and all you need to do is wet them, wring them and snap them and they become cool. As long as they are wet, either with water or sweat, they stay cool and help you stay cool. I'll be honest that I'm not sure where you can pick them up. I bought mine at the expo last weekend after seeing the really cool demo. 

    Shock Absorber was also there and I took the opportunity to pick up a new sports bra. The Ultimate Run Bra, the same as a few of us raved about, now comes with a built in heart rate monitor strap. All you need to do is clip on the computer unit from your heart rate monitor and it works just the same as the strap. It is so nice to not have to worry about wearing the strap, it's so much more comfortable. The only thing is that they are about 20$ more. They also may not have made it to stores yet, they were launched at the expo this weekend. For me it was a win-win, I love the bra and I have a heart rate monitor I don't wear because of the strap. Now I can use my heart rate monitor.

    My training is going well. I've kept to my schedule pretty well which is always a challenge. I guess I'm just really motivated right now. I'm focusing on the number of runs per week as opposed to milage, that will start going up in a couple of weeks.

  • Donnabelle
    Donnabelle Member Posts: 198
    edited May 2014

    Runfree how lucky you are to live in such a gorgeous area. I absolutely love visiting NH each year!

    Goldlining thank you for the tips on running in a new place. Don't know why I am timid about it, maybe afraid of getting lost or wandering into a bad area, I guess. I will have a friend along on the trip and we will run together so that will help and also make it more fun.

    And oncearunner it sounds like you are coming back strong! A marathon next year, what a great goal. Keep it up!

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited May 2014

    Oh oncearunner, that HR monitor bra is such a good idea! I just (2 days ago!) got another Ultimate Run Bra at the Running Room, in a shocking turquoise with pink liner, so now I have three and a 4th would be de trop. (It turned out that my DIEP revision did not change my size, just vastly improved the shape, so all the old ones still fit.) My Garmin 620 watch has the new HR monitor with the accelerometer in it, so not 100% sure the snaps are in the same place anyway. And it makes a difference which way up it goes - discovered I'd put it on upside down on Tuesday (despite the clear L and R markings, duh) and could not get HR readings while I was out.

    I think I've seen those cooling scarves at the WDW expos. I carry a microfibre cloth for wiping sweat. It's not a special cooling type but it's versatile and I use it for cooling. I carry it dry to start, just tied around my shirt or bra strap or SPIbelt, and then if I need cooling, I wet it at the water station or from my own water bottle. I can stop the sunscreen from sweating into my eyes, or tie it around my neck (cooling the back of the neck is good to cool the head). I can make it cooler by waving it in the air for a bit. I discovered the magic of a cool cloth in a WDW run when I used the washroom passing through Tomorrowland and took a damp paper towel with me for the sweat in my eyes. It was a revelation! My first purchase was a microfibre rectangle about 18"x40" from a hiking store. Now I have a black Lululemon square bandana-sized so I could put it on like a bandana if I did not look so bad with hats on.

    I was just telling my physio today, I need a good running expo for some shopping. I would like a CWX top, to stabilize my shoulders, and nobody carries them here. My stupid breast surgeon that apparently hacked out my nodes with a pickaxe has buggered up my shoulder like nobody's business. It's taped up now to keep it from dropping forward. 

    Counting down the minutes until it's time for my after-work run! So glad the run-friendly weather is back!

  • Oncearunneralwaysarunner
    Oncearunneralwaysarunner Member Posts: 252
    edited June 2014

    Goldlining - I have a Garmin 410 with heart rate monitor and used it without any problems with the bra. Not sure if it would work with the 620, I don't have any left and right markings on my strap. The lady at the booth did mention that it was compatible with different brands of heart rate monitors though so it might still work. A little something to keep in mind when the time comes to replace a sports bra.

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited June 2014

    :-) If they come out with a colour combination that appeals to me that I don't already have, I think it will be hard to resist! I looked at my monitor module and it looks pretty much the standard size. Toys: the reward for running!

  • RunFree16
    RunFree16 Member Posts: 856
    edited June 2014

    Half marathon done! So relieved to have it over with!

    It was spectacular, perfect weather, a stunning
    course in beautiful Vermont, with wonderful support from MANY musicians and
    volunteers and spectators.  I felt joyous
    almost the whole way. I walked every 6th
    minute throughout, after the first mile, which I think helped me stay strong.  I found I was often beating my planned pace
    of 11:00 minutes/mile during my running segments.  My husband and son met me at about mile 4.5 and
    took a nice picture, big boost, and I handed over my jacket and fuel belt, phew!  But I tucked my bagel into my waistband for 6
    more miles (“Papa don’t preach—I’m gonna keep my bagel”).  I felt really good for the first 9 miles,
    although I was sore in the usual spots, right hip flexor and left calf, after
    about 5.  At mile 9, I started to hurt
    more. The last mile was really tough, but
    I still kicked it in like a former sprinter.  My husband, son, and mom were at the finish. My time of 2:32:14 was not really rapid.  I was definitely in better shape for my only
    other half marathon, in 2011, which I did in 2:21:25.  But I’m quite satisfied with my time today.

    All told, it really did feel like a cancer-smacking process. This time last year, I was just out of
    treatment and could not have done this, or the training all spring.  Look at me now!  What a gift!

  • sandpiper1
    sandpiper1 Member Posts: 952
    edited June 2014

    Runfree.....You ROCK!

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited June 2014

    Wow what a good time! Runfree, fantastic!

  • sandpiper1
    sandpiper1 Member Posts: 952
    edited June 2014

    I have not run in some time. Maybe 2 miles a week or 2 ago. I have been walking. Doing a work challenge and trying to get back into the swing of things because I so miss the challenge (s) I issued myself last year as a novice runner...... Anywho .....if ever there was inspiration to be found it is here.........

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/06/02/318...

    xoxoxoxo

    and happy trails...

    Piper

  • Oncearunneralwaysarunner
    Oncearunneralwaysarunner Member Posts: 252
    edited June 2014

    Great job RunFree! I have to ask though, how well did the bagel hold up? ;) 

  • RunFree16
    RunFree16 Member Posts: 856
    edited June 2014

    Thanks for all the nice words everybody!  My quads still hurt on stairs but my knees got over their snit by Monday morning.  Oncearunner, that bagel got steadily sweatier and clammier but I hung onto it for a long time, because I thought I might need fuel.  When I got to mile 11, I decided I could finish without it, and I tossed the bagel onto a grassy shoulder.  I picture it being devoured immediately by hungry chipmunks with low standards.

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited June 2014

    By mile 11, my own standards are pretty low. I'd have eaten it! ;)

  • RunFree16
    RunFree16 Member Posts: 856
    edited June 2014

    Oh, I totally would have too if I thought I needed it!

  • princessrn
    princessrn Member Posts: 370
    edited June 2014

    Great work Runfree!  I once saw Dean Karnazes, I am spelling wrong, speak.  He said to run the next day to get blood flow to the legs and to clear out the lactic acid.  I have done so ever since post races. It ain't pretty but I do feel better afterwards.

  • RunFree16
    RunFree16 Member Posts: 856
    edited June 2014

    Wow princessrn, I have never managed to make myself do a recovery run!  I was thinking about that as I limped around today.  Maybe tomorrow.  Of all the bum luck, my treadmill crapped out last week.  I think it's really dead, but I will try a couple of things before I make a declaration.  Of course it's nice weather to run outside now, FINALLY, but I do like having my treadmill even in summer.

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited June 2014

    I always do better with more frequent running too. Life doesn't always work out that way, but I can tell my legs are stronger. Today I did 5K outing after having run Sunday - a long run that turned out shorter than planned - miscalculated. Today was farther, faster, and easier-feeling than Sunday, aside from wetness in lungs from some pollen. I even broke 35 minutes for 5K, which I have not since pre-DIEP. This fantastic Garmin has all kinds of analytics and one is physiological calculation based on the HR and other data, of "training effect" and it gave this run a 4.2, where 4 is very good improvement, and 5 is over-reaching. So, I don't anticipate faster running pace soon and I will just focus on extending the proportion that I run vs. walk. I am SO GLAD to be outside and not on a treadmill. It was quite gusty out there today, and the temperature was not as high as I expected, but it turned out perfect. 

  • NatsFan
    NatsFan Member Posts: 3,745
    edited June 2014

    Gold - congrats on breaking 35 minutes for a 5K run.  Still a goal of mine . . .    Your Garmin sounds like a great training tool.  

    And yes, isn't it great to be outside again after this horrible winter - it made me realize how much I hate running inside on a dreadmill! 

  • JoanQuilts
    JoanQuilts Member Posts: 633
    edited June 2014

    Can I join you?  56 years old, 2 bc diagnoses 19 years apart, starting week 5 of Couch to 5K. I'm psyched!

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited June 2014

    Welcome JoanQuilts to the happiest thread on BCO! Looking forward to reading your progress in the C25K!

  • sandpiper1
    sandpiper1 Member Posts: 952
    edited June 2014

    Welcome Joan.

    I second the bliss of being outdoors.

    Although, I have had to stick to my walking fro now.

    I am doing a "step challenge" through work. for every 10k steps you get a home run. They tally them weekly, through July. It is an activity toward reducing our annual insurance deductible. There are some awards at the end of the challenge.

    Anyhow, I am increasing my steps and have reached the daily 10k goal several times this week.

    My feet have been killing me more and more. I may have to really consider getting a consult and surgery much sooner than I anticpated. 

    In the meantime....living vicariously through this thread

    xopxoxoxoxoxoxo

    .......Run on and happy trails

    Piper

  • Donnabelle
    Donnabelle Member Posts: 198
    edited June 2014

    Congrats Runfree on your race! It must have been a pretty run, all Vermonty and everything! 

    Welcome Joan. This thread will keep you motivated! Good luck with the training.

    I got through my recon surgery last week and am still sore. I am walking as much as possible, but no running for maybe 4 or 5 weeks :(( I will live vicariously through you all in the meantime! Get out there and enjoy!

  • RunFree16
    RunFree16 Member Posts: 856
    edited June 2014

    Thanks Donnabelle!  It was super pretty.  People were taking out their phones and snapping pictures all over the place.  There was one field on a back road where there were five beautiful horses--lots of photos there.  I was chuckling to myself, "Nice of them to rent these horses for the occasion!"  (No, I'm sure they really live there.)  Also the course is somewhat downhill overall, although there are a couple of hills and a few smaller inclines.  A Vermont course could be incredibly hilly so I was grateful for the downhill.  Sorry you're out of the running game for a while, and you too Piper.

    JoanQuilts, welcome!  You've got quite a story with your very late recurrence.  I think it's great that you're doing the Couch to 5K.  Run on!

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