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  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited April 2014

    Oh Wren she'll probably just have one of the chickens for Easter dinner.

    OMG FBB I can not believe (but I do) that anyone would say that to u. How insensitive can anyone be. Well I'm gad u'r home and u sound pretty good. Whew

    Welcome Rose, I've never been on Tami but a lot of us have sleeping problems with other things so I take Xanax at night and that helps me. But not always it just depends on how they work.

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  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited April 2014

    Wren!  Hi Sweety!  Nope, we don't color eggs any more!  I remember my Grandma did though, even when she was 80!  I think she did it for MY Daughter's!  But she always was fun...

    The Hens next door lay colored eggs sort of!  Some are a real pale blue, and even green.... but mostly brown.  One of those girls lays the tiniest eggs I have ever seen!  So I have one of those with a normal size egg...Ha!  I only got 2 this morning...  One of the Hens was still laying, and didn't come down from her nesting area, when I brought their treats over...  I kind of reached under the side of her, because I could see 2 eggs...  They lay in one spot!  They have 2 nesting areas, but they take turns, waiting for that one spot!    

    Cammi, you little chit!  Of COURSE I would not eat the Chickens!  I kind of like them now...  They aren't real "cuddly" but like when I pick one up...

    FierceBB...  I'll be damned!  Someone actually SAID that to you?    She does not deserve you to be her "friend."....  We all know moron's like that...  so just dump her!   Teka is right....  Hope she never has to join us here....  She doesn't deserve US either...Ha!

    You should say to her....  "You know, you really made me feel bad, like you thought I was going to die, because I had this done so close to Easter!  Maybe you should go to some sort of "empathy class for Moron's until you learn how to speak  to someone you supposedly care about!"   I can never think of something to say right away.... but when you really get to thinking about it, THEN you can.  Send her an email.... tell her you are still alive and NOW what?  

    Some people are just stupid... 

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2014

    while I'm catching up: 

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  • luvmygoats
    luvmygoats Member Posts: 2,942
    edited April 2014

    OK This is Wild Sunshine speaking in Easter Bunny talk.

    FBB - What a friend. Geesh. Glad you are at home recovering. Hope you are getting the "royal" treatment from your family. Resting and recuperating. Love you bunches. When is the MRI?

    Quiet Easter here. Just DH and I. I have a ham steak and will make new potatoes and sugar snap peas. Not very Eastery but easy/peasy.

    Welcome Rosa. Don't know the answer about Melatonin/Tammy but bet someone will come on who does. May just be a bit slow with an answer because of the Easter weekend. If it gets overlooked when responses pick up just ask again. We do get a bit sidetracked at times but sincerely want to help with any questions.

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  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited April 2014

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  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited April 2014

    Yesterday, I was walking down the street, holding my wifes hand... he said...

    I suddenly dropped her hand, and grabbed my cell phone to take this picture.  She hit me in the chest  and wouldn't talk to me the rest of the day.

    Last night she asked me..."Yow COULD you?" 

    I sai "How could I not?  It's not every day you see a dog driving a car."

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  • Teka
    Teka Member Posts: 10,052
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  • Teka
    Teka Member Posts: 10,052
    edited April 2014

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2014

    thanks, Chevy and Teka

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  • badger
    badger Member Posts: 34,614
    edited April 2014

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  • Teka
    Teka Member Posts: 10,052
    edited April 2014

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  • Smaarty
    Smaarty Member Posts: 2,951
    edited April 2014

    it's funning, I'm smartie cotton tail.  Hi guys, hope everyone enjoys their Easter. Tomorrow is full ahead on Opitfast. Yesterday and today I did a partial, only four meals instead of six because I had lunch out. So now no more "food" until August.  

    No experience with  tami or melatonin. Sorry, SAS will be back to answer, shes our med wizard here.

    Badger, cute buns!

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  • Holeinone
    Holeinone Member Posts: 2,478
    edited April 2014

    Smaarty, have you been on Optifast before? is it a total liquid diet? Good luck with it. 

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  • Blessings2011
    Blessings2011 Member Posts: 4,276
    edited April 2014

    Ohmygosh... I am SO far behind... will have to catch up later!

    In the meantime, wishing everyone a very 

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    XOXOXOXOXOXO

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2014

    Badger, so very cute! Maybe, being "behind" is in style?

    Hi Rosa Aurora, welcome! This is a great place to turn to when you're awake in the night time hours. I started on Tamoxifen in August, but bit sure I'm the best one to offer advice about difficulty sleeping. Since I was born have been a night owl. Dad still says how I would sleep during the day and up all night, some things never changed. Was never one to go to sleep early. I started on melatonin and that helps some. Since I'm not working, been easier to keep my strange hours. Can't say Tamoxifen caused depression, just have a lot going on in my life that isn't the best right now. I did have a case of adult ADD for a while but that has improved a lot. 

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  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited April 2014

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2014

    hi Cami! I thought I was the only one awake. Happy Easter!

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  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited April 2014

    Hi 2nd==I've been sleeping most of the day si I woke up with m sweety Katie-Kat in my arms like a baby and after cuddling a bit woke up. Damn I thought it was later, now of course I'll be tired all day.  This is madness I tell u Madness. LOL 

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2014

    same here. Woke up this morning, fell asleep, then fell asleep again this afternoon. Wide awake now. Making one of those scarves that Chevy was talking about (for DD for Easter).

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  • JWoo
    JWoo Member Posts: 1,171
    edited April 2014

    Happy Easter y'all! 

    Rosa, I have had chronic insomnia childhood (which i am sure has contributed to my cancer.) Taking Tamoxifen has made it worse, as the night sweats make things more uncomfortable. I take lunesta and have for a few years. I got really, really depressed when I first started. It could have been just the situation, but I was unable to move forward at all. I started taking 37.5mg of effexor every other day. It has helped with the depression and night sweats.  Starting an exercise program has helped as well. Talk to your doctors and therapists.  

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  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited April 2014

    2nd will u finish it in time???

    Jwow--Having this all of u'r life is awful, One of my GF has always had it and when we were young I used to think how?? I mean those days show me a bed and I'd sleep (shut up Chevy) and we'd do sleepovers it was no prolem for her to stay up, and she still has it but now she takes meds for it and it helps, but those days no one took anything. Now I see first hand how miserable it is.

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  • JWoo
    JWoo Member Posts: 1,171
    edited April 2014

    CHevy- getting this shirt on must look hilarious. First time, it took me 20 minutes. stuck with my hands over my head going in circles. By the time i have it on, i am exhausted. 

    FBB- so glad you seem to be okay today. I think your friend was just scared and put her foot in her mouth. I do it all the time. :/

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  • JWoo
    JWoo Member Posts: 1,171
    edited April 2014

    Cam- it stinks. I used to self medicate with herb, but stopped that long ago. And now with the tam, it is high in phytoestrogens, so would not use it anyway. I've tried it all, yoga, teas, meditation, herbal suppliments, melatonin, you name it. lunesta and the occasional clonapin if things get really bad. Otherwise,  do what I did tonight, put on Airplane or some other silly movie and try to laugh for a bit. :)

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  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited April 2014

    Jwow I remember my GF going to work and staying up like crazy and maybe she's sleep2-3 hrs and just be exhausted. I now know how this feels and like u to be like this u'r life it's awful. I worked the first 4 months I got chemo and those steroids kept me great at work but hardly slept and when I was at work I wasn't sleepy but didn't feel right, then I'd crash like the 3rd day--what a mix of aggravation.  

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  • JWoo
    JWoo Member Posts: 1,171
    edited April 2014

    ya- the steroids were nice b/c i was at least really productive! i got so much chit done when i was on them. They do make you feel horrid though. 

    i just figure, i will sleep when i die. if i can get a few naps here and there now, that's great. I dont worry too much about it any more. I am tired all the time, but, whatever… that is just how it is. 

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  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited April 2014

    Bawling OK

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  • Pawprint
    Pawprint Member Posts: 464
    edited April 2014

    Happy Easter everyone. 

    2nd, post a pic of that scarf you're making. 

    jWoo, my dad used to always say the same thing you said about I'll sleep when I die. 

    Let's hope we'll all get some sleep at some point tonight. 

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2014

    got it done, time to sleep

    Jwow, pretty new avatar

    Cami, I hope you can get to sleep

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited April 2014

    Pawprint, good to see you! Er, would be even better at a better hour.

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    DD's cat just had to get into the picture (sorry, can't figure out how to size photos on the iPad)

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  • Pawprint
    Pawprint Member Posts: 464
    edited April 2014

    The scarf looks beautiful 2nd. Hope you get some sleep now. 

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