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  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited January 2014

    If I don't use waterproof mascara, then I sweat it into the bags under my eyes!!! With a bad cold I had this week I didn't add any to my lower lashes, knowing I'd be wiping my eyes and I actually looked better! I try this every couple of years as they say that mascara on lower lashes emphasizes dark circles, but this is the first time I looked better without it...and with a cold, too! I'm gonna try it again today for work and see if I get the same effect.

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited January 2014

    I stopped using mascara on my lower lashes years ago for that reason… figured that one on my own. Since I use liner and I have big eyes anyway it isn't a big deal.

    I remember a couple a years ago a gal at the cosmetic counter suggested I use this one color of eyeshadow because it would make my eyes look bigger. I laughed and jokelingly said "Do I look like I have a problem with eye size? I think you need to come up with a better pitch."

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited January 2014

    Deb you are only 1 week out from the final cycle of chemo. There are a few of us that did start growing before chemo ended but many do not. You will find that once your hair starts to grow it might push out those old hairs. My eyebrows thinned but never fell out completely… but 5 weeks PFC they started to fall out because the new hairs were pushing them out.

    Here's my hair growth linky. Dates at the bottom corner. My last chemo was 1.18.2011

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited January 2014

    Yes that is make-up on the eyebrows. Eyebrows was my biggest fear. I bought the Anastasia Brow Duo 4 weeks before my BMX. I never had great eyebrows. Have been wearing it ever since. It's a powder and looks quite natural. Hooked my mom on this product too. Only $22 and should last at least 3 years. 

    Check on this page for eyebrow drawing tips (and more): linky

    Thanks for the compliment. I don't know how pretty but I have a pretty smile so I only smile in photos… otherwise I look kinda bitchy. Seriously if you smile you will feel and look better. BTW I really did look like Gollum with no hair: linky I really need some hair.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited January 2014

    Deb, I know what you mean! And Iago, yes, you can make yourself look like Gollum if you pull on your ears and scowl!! I was just saying to my DH yesterday as I saw my reflection in the computer screen that I hate how my jaw drops slightly at rest and pulls down the corners of my mouth as if I'm pissed at something. I must be always aware to slightly smile so my mood isn't mis-interpreted!!!

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited January 2014

    Bangs are cheaper than Botox… just saying

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited January 2014

    Deb this is the time to try. I had beautiful shiny full hair. My onc's NP told me I would have trouble with hair loss. I laughed and said I was more worried about losing my eyebrows. Ended up hating my wig and wearing scarves for all but 1 weekend.

  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited January 2014

    My thoughts would be to go for it if you are so inclined.  About a year ago, I went to a plastic surgeon to have a mole removed. It was on my face, right in the middle of the front part of my cheek. Tho not large, I could tell it was spreading a little at a time, and my concerns were that it was skin cancer.

    Since I was there, I decided to get two other moles on my face removed. One was on the side of my face towards my ear, about the size if a pencil eraser. The other was on the outside corner of my eyelid. 

    My gosh, as soon as the procedure was done, the doctor gave me a mirror and even with stitches in three parts of my face I felt instantly more attractive.  And I'm a middle aged woman long past that youthful bloom period. The incisions healed beautifully. Getting those moles removed was one of the best things I ever did, so I say go for it since the situation has presented itself to you while you're already going to be getting another procedure.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited January 2014

    Deb, I agree with Divine. If you can afford it, do it!!!! At least something good will come out of all this crap for you. I haven't found the silver lining yet and I've been looking for over 5 years now!! I'd try to beat the doc down a bit more on pricing - play the cancer card!! hehehehehe (like he doesn't already know.....) seriously though, shame him into doing it for even less as if you were his best friend/sister/mother/cousin etc. He's getting a lot of money for the grafting he's already doing....

  • Blessings2011
    Blessings2011 Member Posts: 4,276
    edited January 2014

    O.K., Ladies - I need advice!

    Most days I wear no makeup. I also do nothing to take care of my skin, other than a hypoallergenic, light sunscreen lotion on my face. I wash with Cetaphil, recommended by my Dermatologist.

    When I want to look good, I go all out with the concealer, pressed powder foundation, eye shadow, crayon eyeliner, and mascara. I never use waterproof mascara, as it's like trying to remove road tar from my very delicate eyelashes.

    Didn't have chemo, but starting Arimidex made me shed like a big dog. Even my NOSE HAIRS fell out. Got that solved with changing to Femara, and taking Biotin, but my eyelashes and eyebrows remain very thin.

    Does anyone wear false eyelashes? 

    I keep thinking that might be a good alternative to mascara, but cringe at the thought of getting glue on my own lashes and yanking them out. However, if the glue goes ABOVE your own lashes...

    Any comments or suggestions?

  • wyo
    wyo Member Posts: 541
    edited January 2014

    hi all

    blessing I have to say have never tried false eyelashes- my daughter did because they are all the rage right now and she could not even stand the whole night out with them on.  She said they made her eyelids "heavy" and wanting to close them so she took them off. I tried eyelash tinting which was kind of nice but now my lashes are so sparse there is nothing much to tint- I think I am just going to use eye make-up and liner and give up on my lashes (all 4 of them) hahaha

  • Ariom
    Ariom Member Posts: 6,197
    edited January 2014

    Blessings, I haven't worn any false lashes for a long time, but I have applied them when doing makeup for others.

    There are an enormous range of lashes available, some are very fine and manageable. I wouldn't suggest you buy a large full fringe false lash, but a fine more sparse  set, or even a half lash set which fill out the outward edge of your eyes. These look good if you have enough lashes to apply mascara to your own inner eye lashes and then blend the outer edge in with the mascara. It takes a little practice, but gets easier!

    The glue that comes with lashes is a quite elastic and doesn't set rock hard so as to pull out  your own lashes. If it does get into your lashes, just take it slow and gently roll it off.

    The trick is to put a very thin layer of glue directly on to the false lash, I use  toothpick to spread it evenly and hold for a few seconds to let it dry slightly. Then you just apply slowly, right above the lash line. You may have to trim the length of the lash to fit your eye. Some lash companies do a dark colored glue so it isn't too obvious on the eye. Don't rush it, and if it doesn't work, just gently pull the dried glue gently from the base of the lash and try again.

    Another option is to buy a set of singles, these are lashes containing just a couple of hairs on a base, and are sold in a box of about 30 singles. To apply them, just squeeze a blob of glue onto the top of the plastic container the lashes come in, and then with tweezers, remove a single lash, dab the base into the glue and then apply to your lash line. They can look very natural if you can blend them in with mascara, and a smudged eyeliner or shadow. 

     

  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited January 2014

    Blessings, why not try them?  They are not pricey.  If you want to see what looks best on you, try going to a place like Macy's or Ulta's and ask of of the women behind the make up counter to apply a pair for you.  A co-worker (who doesn't have cancer) and her friends went to a Macys and had their makeup done and she said the eyelashes made her eyes look great.

    I use Latisse.  My hair grew back just fine (never even got chemo curls) but my eyebrows and eyelashes took a hit.  The eyebrows will never be lush like before, but I do have some and I pencil in where they look sparse and they look fine.

    My eyelashes just ended up sort of like stubble. I actually felt like I was getting too much debris in my eyes because of no lashes.  Plus I was starting to care more about my appearance and bought new (paraben free) makeup.  I requested a Latisse prescription from the onc. I have a prescription card, so a bottle that last about 30 days only cost me $26.  It took almost six weeks of applying to see results, but I was happy with having lashes again. Now, I just apply several times a week for maintenance and don't have to apply each night.

  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited January 2014

    Deb, I've always had self-confidence and have walked around flat since my double mast so that's not the issue. I just meant that some ladies say that their breast cancer "was a blessing" or something like that. I haven't found it to be so! I guess I always "lived in the moment" and found something "good in each day" and shit like that. I didn't need cancer to be like that....

    As for false lashes, I once twitched while curling my lashes (don't do that anymore!) and pulled out my entire row of lashes on my right eye!!!! I tried the false route, but then realized that a liner gave pretty much the same look for a lot less hassle and I had NO lashes, not sparse, so sparse with liner should be even better!!

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited January 2014

    My lashes are much thinner now. Not sure if it's Anastrozole, chemopause or both. I do use mascara but really its the eyeliner that makes a difference. Granted I do have big eyes to start with

  • cider8
    cider8 Member Posts: 832
    edited January 2014

    my lashes are stubby since growing in after this last chemo.  I hope with the next growth cycle they grow longer.  Meanwhile, I just bought some false lashes for the first time!  I haven't tried them yet.  I have hooded eyes so the liner only does so much.  

  • Blessings2011
    Blessings2011 Member Posts: 4,276
    edited January 2014

    wyo - I can sure understand the "heavy" feeling with false eyelashes... I think I'd probably be blinking the whole time they were on. And then, I'm sure they'd be crooked and fall off and look like a spider on my cheek.....

    DebDylan - to tell you the truth, the SEs of Latisse really scared me. My skin is sensitive to start with, and the few dermatological treatments I've had have left me with an itchy rash. And the SE of turning the iris brown - permanently - wouldn't be good... my eyes are light blue, so that would be very noticeable. But I think it's a great solution for many women!

    Ariom - Wonderful directions... thank you!!! But I'm a little confused... so I put the false eyelashes on, then I use mascara over both my real and fake lashes? If so, then how do I clean the falsies? While they're on my face? After I take them off? And do I put eyeliner OVER the top of the falsies? I am SUCH a makeup dummy!!! Thank you for the great tips...

    TheDivineMrsM - what a great idea... have someone ELSE put them on me!!! (Of course, I'm assuming I'd take my own in, since they wouldn't have "loaner" falsies...) Did your doc say anything about your eyelashes stopping their growth and going back to sparse if you stop the Latisse? Good to know you can wean off the daily use...

    barbe - OUCH!!!! I can never seem to get my eyelash curler on straight... I either pinch my skin or stick the edge in my eyeball, so I don't use it. If I wear my glasses, the lack of eyelashes is not so noticeable as when I wear my contacts.

    lago - If I wear my contacts, my eyes are fairly large; not so much with my glasses on.  Do you put on a thick line of eyeliner, or try to stay thin, and near your lash line? And do you do top and bottom eyelids?

    cider8 - I'd sure love to hear your experience with the false eyelashes! I was thinking of getting some smaller ones, like ariom was describing. Sometimes the thick ones (imagine the Kardashians) look like a row of fur instead of lashes. I don't think I could stand that. When are you going to try them?

  • Ariom
    Ariom Member Posts: 6,197
    edited January 2014

    Hi Blessings,

    Yes, the eyelashes go on, and then you blend your own lashes into the false ones with a coat of mascara, this works well with a fine set of lashes that aren't much longer than your own. Then do a thin line of eyeliner pencil that you can smudge into the lash line to cover the base of the lashes.

    I really like, and always use, Neutragena Oil Free Eye Makeup remover. It is really cheap and does the same job as the high end removers. I have sensitive eyes and this one is really gentle, but it takes everything off.

    You remove the false lashes first and either clean them with eye makeup remover or just wash gently with water and mild soap and leave to dry on some kitchen paper. Just remember to gently pull the glue off the base of the eyelashes. Then use the remover to take of your mascara and liner, and eyeshadow if you're wearing any.

    Sorry for the confusion! I am trying to picture how to do it in sequence. 

    I meant to mention that there are false eyelash applicators available too. They are a similar design to an eyelash curler, you just clamp the false eyelash into it and put the glue on then use the applicator to apply the lashes.

    I hope this helps Blessings!

  • Rakovina
    Rakovina Member Posts: 132
    edited January 2014

    Ariom,  I am so glad you are my friend, because one day you are going to have to show me how to do false eyelashes LOL. 

    Picture this, me, a bottle of glue and some fine little hairs.........aaaarrrrrrgggghhhhh.  I end up with more glue on me than the lashes, and then of course the lashes stick to my fingers rather than the eyelid..........its not a pretty sight. Its like letting a  5 yr old loose in your make up case!

     I gave up, and my eyelashes are still really stubby since chemo so I need help.

    Tanya

  • Ariom
    Ariom Member Posts: 6,197
    edited January 2014

    Anytime Tanya! LOL

    Shame we don't live closer.That would be fun! M x

  • Rakovina
    Rakovina Member Posts: 132
    edited January 2014

    It is a shame we dont live closer. 

    hugs

  • DivineMrsM
    DivineMrsM Member Posts: 9,620
    edited January 2014

    Yes, the growth of eyelashes stops when the use of Latisse stops. Only doing maintenance now by applying every other day or every other two days, the cost for me ends up being only about $13 a month, very reasonable.  I have brown eyes, so not worried about color changes, but I could see where that would be an issue for some.

    A few other things I've learned: For lashes to look their best, it matters what kind of lash curler you use.  It also matters what kind of mascara you use.

    I'd been using a Revlon lash curler which was doing nothing for my lashes.  I eventually purchased one of a different brand, inexpensive, and was amazed how much better it curled my lashes.  Big,noticeable difference.

    The same thing happened with mascara.  I'd been using one that made my lashes look super long and full: 
    Maybelline Volum' Express One-by-One.  I recently had to buy new mascara, and thought I'd try a different brand, only to my dismay, it does zilch for my lashes almost to the point of why bother using it.  Very disappointing, so I'm going back to Volum' Express.

  • auntienance
    auntienance Member Posts: 4,216
    edited January 2014

    I'm cursed with stick straight blonde lashes. Curling only does so much and doesn't seem to last long so false lashes are out for me. The one time I tried to have the semi permanent ones put on was such a disaster, the esthetician didn't even charge me. To make it worse, my eyes tear a lot which makes eye makeup a challenge. I have yet to find a truly waterproof product, but I've spent a fortune trying.  How I envy those with curly dark lashes!


  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited January 2014

    Blessings I put on top and bottom but much thinner line as I move closer to my nose. Thicker line on top as I move to the outer eye. Not too thick though. You don't want to look like a racoon.

  • Blessings2011
    Blessings2011 Member Posts: 4,276
    edited January 2014

    I don't????? 

    (Thanks, lago!)

  • auntienance
    auntienance Member Posts: 4,216
    edited January 2014

    Oddly enough, my skin was the best it has ever been during chemo. All of my eczema cleared up. I have lots of blonde hair on my face and of course that was gone too. It would have been great but for the no eyebrows and eyelash thing.


  • auntienance
    auntienance Member Posts: 4,216
    edited January 2014

    About 4 or 5 months I think. Maybe a little longer. It was gradual.

  • slv58
    slv58 Member Posts: 1,216
    edited January 2014

    Deb, I'm 9 months pfc and my skin has aged 10 years! I have a lot more wrinkles and lost the tone of my skin. However I just found out I'm hypothyroid and "puffy face" is a symptom so I'm not sure if it is due to this. My lashes and brows are very thin which I miss but have become comfortable filling them in. I have found that diorshow mascara does a pretty good job and thickening my lashes-it is expensive but is worth it to me. If you do try it, give it a week before you decide if you like it as it takes that long for the brush to soften and apply smoothly.

    On a similar theme, when my hair started growing back, I decided to leave it gray to see what it looked like. I thought it was a great opportunity to cut the chain to hair dye! Well my hair has only grown about 2.5" but I really liked being a (what I thought!) a"silver foxette". So I was at the drugstore and decided to treat myself to a good face cream and was asking the cosmetician for advice. So I settled on a cream to try, and she looks at me and says " oh, and it's seniors discount day today!" I looked at her and said that's nice but I have 10 years to go!  I guess i really need this cream lol. Well I did walk down the hair dye aisle, but decided for now I like my gray. I may change my mind if it grows longer, but ill tell you, what a blow to my ego!

  • lago
    lago Member Posts: 17,186
    edited January 2014

    slv58 hair dye is the best gift for women over 45. I will not stop. My 77 YO mom still dyes hers and feels the same way. Everyone thinks she's younger. Sorry but I will never be a Q-tips

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  • barbe1958
    barbe1958 Member Posts: 19,757
    edited January 2014

    I don't believe that about plucked hair growth and the re-growth time frame! I've waxed or plucked a chin hair and see it again in a couple of DAYS!!! I have quite a number of stubborn hairs that re-grow very quickly, definitely NOT 3 months!!!

    I want to embrace my silver hair too!! I have that really, really bright silver, not gray coming in and am trying to blend it in. My hair is darker than my avatar right now. I dyed my gray area the lightest blond I could find just to tone down the silver as it comes in. I want to do LOW lights in my silver hair after years of HIGH lights. I do agree that people assume we are older with gray/white/silver hair, but I really don't care. I want to have fun with make-up and glasses once it all settles in. The worst thing an older lady does is to dye her hair too DARK and that alone ages her and makes her look witchy if she has long hair. Our lightening hair softens our look for a reason! My body has aged, my face hasn't caught up to it yet. I am often mistaken for 10-15 years younger. It'll be neat to see how much it jumps the other way once I'm all silver!! HEALTHY hair is what looks good, whether dyed or natural. Drab, lifeless hair no matter what colour is what looks haggard. I find dying my hair makes it shiny and healthy looking. (I use Garnier whenever I do dye.) 

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