I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

Kam - lots of national media on that weird mayor, anything that even sneakily smells of "scandal" sells in the good ole US of A. SO SAD.

Always expected during fight for ACA/Obamacares, folks would use Canada as example of wise approach....but not controversial enuf I think.

Bren - it was in the mid 60's here today, damp, rainy, strange strange weather....supposed to get MUCH colder in next few days.

A story worth reading (wishing it would get more attention nationally):

http://thedailybanter.com/2013/11/another-obamacare-horror-story-debunked-and-no-the-president-didnt-lie-about-the-law/

C4C....very interesting. I think this part of the article you posted is worth reprinting here:

But here’s the thing: Sundby wasn’t shoved into this predicament because the ACA law forced her insurance provider out of the ballgame. UnitedHealthcare, one of the most notorious insurance providers before the ACA was passed, responsible for canceling policies and penalizing customers, decided to voluntarily bail out of the individual insurance game as a matter of corporate strategy. In doing so, it could avoid taking on less healthy customers early in the exchange sign-up process, forcing other insurers to absorb the risk. Clever. And sinister.

UnitedHealthcare Chief Executive Officer Stephen Helmsley said, “The company’s plans reflect its concern that the first wave of newly insured customers under the law may be the costliest.” He continued, “UnitedHealth will watch and see how the exchanges evolve and expects the first enrollees will have ‘a pent-up appetite’ for medical care. We are approaching them with some degree of caution because of that.” A pent-up appetite — you know, to not go broke while attempting to not die.

I've been busy helping my mom move to NC .. and yesterday was the first time in years that my brother, sister, mom and I were at the same place at the same time. Got to spend bro's birthday with him yesterday! He's the "baby" in the family and I'm the oldest.

hugs,

Bren

As always everyone of you are super wonderful. Pictures, thoughts, sharing articles. LOVE YOU ALL.

I watched the the interview Erin Burnett had with the lady mentioned by C4C.

She said UHC paid 1.2million in claims, the cap was 1million. My DH & I had UHC from the early 70s until 12/31/12. They were always excellent and or many,many years we paid virtually $0 for medical. We were at first upset about the switch and a little leery of the BC/BS that we were being switched to. I heard on "another" thread how awful BC/BS was. However that EVIL union that my husband belonged to made the switch,that is where we are now. We have had no problem,but we are on Medicare now.

I know that woman was treated well by UHC, however I also know that UHC let the coverage go because they want the BIG bucks!!! That poor woman may now HAVE to go to Mayo or MDAnderson now. If you can find the interview,it is on CNN OutFront with Erin Burnett. I dont know how to link or put pics or anything like that.

Love and Hugs----kad2kar

There are lots of high functioning individuals who are substance abusers. Sometimes the choice is made consciously, sometimes it it something done "in a drunken stupor". When it crowds in and defines who you are it does not matter what you are "self medicating" with. He needs help, but he has to ask for it.

Also, others need to stop enabling him. I'm not hearing any calls from Toronto for his resignation, or at least demands that he get treatment before continuing on the job. But maybe I've missed something.

My understanding is that the major of Toronto has been a major jerk as far as assisting drug addicts with treatment. I'm attaching a link to a "tough love" interview he gave. So, I don't care too much about what he drinks or smokes.... but hate that he has one standard for himself and another for everyone else.

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/05/17/if-they-have-to-dry-out-in-jail-great-backin-2005-ford-said-tough-love-is-the-only-way-to-battle-drug-use/