October 2013 Chemotherapy

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  • lgkgde13
    lgkgde13 Member Posts: 164
    edited November 2013


    I am joining pity party today. Had a good cry. I am so not myself. Slept 11 hrs last night and still get winded so easily. Can't take this shortness of breath. Getting ready for AC #3 on Tues. Hoping my counts are ok this time.

  • JenSF
    JenSF Member Posts: 45
    edited November 2013


    Dear Nicole, I went back to the nice hairstylist I first met 10 days ago (ended up she was the manager of the store). She asked why I went back as my "short" hair was still there. I showed her how easy that I could just grab any bunch and pulled out. She understood right away and told me she wont charge this time to shave me (at the end I still paid her cos she was so nice!) She shaved my hair and brought me to wash my head. It was a Sat afternoon so there were other stylists and customers. Well, I didn't care as much as I felt happy once this was taken care of. I went straight for a walk too after the cut (with my hat on!) My DH brought my daughter to bday party. DH was so kind to me. He always prepared me and said my head looks good in bald. This morning, I didnt have to clean up my pillows and bed and everywhere! How lovely! My 2nd tx is coming Thurday. Blood draw on Wed. So I can enjoy the next few days in peace! Love, Jen

  • SpiritBlessing
    SpiritBlessing Member Posts: 584
    edited November 2013


    Ladies,


    Here are a few of my favorite verses and have gotten me through since my dx in August. I hope it isn't too much but once I got going and started putting some down I just got moved when I thought of how they have helped me and reading how it has been such a rough week for some of you I just was hoping to give you some comfort. I pray you all have a less stressful day and feel stronger in the days to come.


    Isaiah 41:10


    Do not be afraid...I am with you! I am your God, let nothing terrify you! I will make you strong and help you; I will protect you and save you.


    Joshua 1:9


    Remember that I have commanded you to be determined and confident! Don't be afraid or discouraged, for I, the Lord your God, am with you wherever you go!


    2 Timothy 1:7


    For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.


    Romans 12:12


    Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer.


    Psalms 34:17


    The righteous cry, and the Lord heareth, and delivereth them out of all their troubles.



    Psalm 16:1-11


    Protect me, O God; I trust in you for safety. I say to the Lord, "You are my Lord; all the good things I have come from you." How excellent are the Lord 's faithful people! My greatest pleasure is to be with them. Those who rush to other gods bring many troubles on themselves. I will not take part in their sacrifices; I will not worship their gods. You, Lord, are all I have, and you give me all I need; my future is in your hands. How wonderful are your gifts to me; how good they are! I praise the Lord, because he guides me, and in the night my conscience warns me. I am always aware of the Lord 's presence; he is near, and nothing can shake me. And so I am thankful and glad, and I feel completely secure, because you protect me from the power of death. I have served you faithfully, and you will not abandon me to the world of the dead. You will show me the path that leads to life; your presence fills me with joy and brings me pleasure for ever.


    Philippians 4:13


    I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.


    Proverbs 3:5,6


    Trust in The Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding. In all ways acknowledge Him and He will make your paths straight.


    Blessings Abundant

  • Annecy
    Annecy Member Posts: 54
    edited November 2013


    DebDylan- I am also joining the pity party today as I have tried to muster enough courage to get through the "head shaving" process......it is such of an emotional step as many of you have experienced already .


    JenSF- I really admire your courage. Bravo! nice & kind gesture from DH to complement you on your bald head....not sure if mine would be as complementary. Will be thinking of you on Thursday!

  • travlmom
    travlmom Member Posts: 90
    edited November 2013


    Nicole - I am right there with you on the head shaving... I have been putting it off all day. I finally put a skull cap on just to keep it from falling in my face... As soon as dinner and football is over there are no more excuses. I was scaring myself walking past the mirrors in the bathroom earlier today... My hair just looks like straw on my head anyway.


    My mantra for the day is - I was brought to it and God will get me through it!

  • LiLi1964
    LiLi1964 Member Posts: 331
    edited November 2013

    SpiritBlessing - thank you!

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited November 2013


    LiLi - not sure what to advise but SSDI is not doable for a short-term solution. You have to have been unable to work for five months before you can apply, compassionate allowance (almost immediate approval) is only for stage IV. So if you worked last week you would have to wait five more months before you could apply, then wait for months for a decision. SSDI is meant to be for those who will most likely not be unable to return to work ever, not so much of a stop gap for situations like this. Your best bet may be to pursue any solutions offered by your state, or local county. Do you pay into a state disab system with your state income taxes? I am thinking you might be feeling better once you move to the Taxol portion of your chemo, so is it possible for you take a short leave for the duration of AC?


    Here are some resources - don't know if any are helpful for you:


    http://www.thepinkfund.org/the_pink_fund_state_resources.php

  • Gramof2boys
    Gramof2boys Member Posts: 194
    edited November 2013


    Hi, ladies!


    Spirit- thanks so much for the verses.


    Team Kim- look at this website: www.chemobeanies.biz, I bought one and love it. They are so soft. I do where a wig to work and out of the house but when I'm home I where the chemo beanie or doo rag or lately just plain old bald. I have gotten so used to it now, I have caught myself walking outside then remember I'll scare the neighbors.


    I hope everyone survives this week with few or no SEs. #3 for me on Friday, I hope I continue to do well again, then only 1 more A/C for me!!!!! Then it's Taxol time,yuck!!

  • plumbread
    plumbread Member Posts: 5
    edited November 2013


    Hi everyone I am new here. I am also an October chemo sis. I started my first T/C on Oct. 18 and had a very tough time. I fainted on the 4th day and started to have high blood pressure and high heart rate (doubled my avg. heart beat). I was sent to ER and given different tests. ECG is normal, no blood clotting, no infection so the ER doctor sent me home. But with that symptoms I cann't rest even one minute. So I rushed back to ER again. They gave me two doses of Ativan and I had 2.5 hours sleep. After then I still had high BP and BR but after two days, it slowly went back to normal. Did anyone have the same/similiar symptoms as me? What happened to me? Thanks for any tips.

  • SpiritBlessing
    SpiritBlessing Member Posts: 584
    edited November 2013


    Your welcome!


    What does dose dense mean?

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited November 2013


    welcome plumbread. That sounds scary. Hopefully someone will come along with an answer for you soon. I haven't started chemo yet but your post made me wonder which of the chemo drugs seem to be causing the most problems. I know each of us will have different reactions but I wonder if one drug is more likely to cause problems than another?


    I hope things improve for you plumbread. Stick around for support.

  • plumbread
    plumbread Member Posts: 5
    edited November 2013


    Thanks for your reply. I will see my oncologist next Tuesday. I took three days of steroids and three days of Zofran. The fourth day I just took one Stemetil and one Morphene. One the fifth day I took one Stemetil. Nothing else I took. I really have no confidence to start my second round. I need an answer from someone who has the same SEs as me.

  • lgkgde13
    lgkgde13 Member Posts: 164
    edited November 2013


    dose dense is every 2 weeks for treatment.


    Plumbread- I am in AC and did not have those SEs. Did you contact your MO?

  • Headeast
    Headeast Member Posts: 619
    edited November 2013


    Dear Plumbread, your symptoms sound scary. I did not have anything similar, but if that would have happened to me I would have called my MO or nurse on call.


    What did your MO say about it?

  • smrlvr
    smrlvr Member Posts: 422
    edited November 2013


    Specialk- I notice you and I have similar pathology except I have ILC. What is the difference between carboplatin/taxotere chemo you were treated with versus the adriamycin/cytoxian? I will be starting the AC next week and I am curious about the difference.

  • plumbread
    plumbread Member Posts: 5
    edited November 2013


    Thanks for the reply. My MO's nurse called me and told me don't be so stressful. Next time they will adjust the dosage. I felt insane. I said it's the high heart rate made me no rest for a long time. I am not sure it's because of TC or because of Zofran/Stemetil. If my MO can garantee to wipe out this SE then I will go on my 2nd treatment.

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited November 2013


    I was told to take anti anxiety meds. Ask them about adding ativan or something to calm you,

  • Headeast
    Headeast Member Posts: 619
    edited November 2013


    I did ask for Ativan during my chemo session as well. It was too much for me to handle. I always thought I was a strong person, never took medications. Not even Advil, now I take all and Ativan really made me calm.


    Remember this is just a chapter in life. Chemo will have am end.


    You want to be sure that chemo kills all those cancer cells.


    Sleep tight.

  • TeamKim
    TeamKim Member Posts: 568
    edited November 2013


    Gram - thanks for the link, I'll check it out.


    Thanks everyone for your good wishes with my Neulasta fever. It is still going up and down, but not spiking as high (just around 100.2) and was normal most of the day today. Still taking Motrin every 8 to 10 hours. Tonight I have quite a bit of bone pain -- might take an Adivan to help with sleeping tonight... Ugh! How come every solution seems to come with it's own new set of problems?

  • Viji
    Viji Member Posts: 195
    edited November 2013


    I had heart palpitations and breathlessness after the 2nd treatment of TC and H was added. I am going to discuss this with the MO tomorrow as I am apprehensive about my next treatment because I had such a crappy, scary night and only in hindsight do I realise that I was having an adverse reaction.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited November 2013


    smrlvr - the biggest difference in our pathology is my Her2 status, it is what drove the decision my doc made to use TCH as he does not like to combine Adriamycin and Herceptin for his Her2+ patients, even when the drugs are not administered simultaneously. He does use ACT in his Her2- patients though. There are several drug regimens commonly used for Her2+ patients, regardless of whether ILC or IDC, and they work differently from each other in causing cancer cell death. Some docs use AC-TH, which is Adriamycin, Cytoxan for a number of doses, then Taxol and Herceptin. The Adriamycin and Herceptin are not usually given together because they are both cardio-toxic. Adriamycin is an antineoplastic and is used to treat a number of different kinds of cancer, it is a drug that has been used for quite a while, but it does have the potential for causing some permanent cardiac issues. Some docs like to use the regimen of TCH, which is Taxotere, an anti-microtubule (and also a taxane like Taxol), Carboplatin (or Cytoxan) and Herceptin. This combination is actually favored by Dr. Dennis Slamon, the doctor responsible for bringing Herceptin to the market. You will sometimes also see Taxol alone for 8 or 12 treatments, and sometimes this is used for smaller Her2+ tumors, or for people, who may be either Her2+, or -, who cannot tolerate AC-TH, or TCH. The reasons docs use different drug regimens is varied - sometimes it is geographically driven, sometimes it is the policy of the medical practice, sometimes it is what they have the most experience with. Some of these drugs are newer than others, so there is less data to assist with decision making.

  • SuckitBC
    SuckitBC Member Posts: 34
    edited November 2013


    Plumbread-I did not have high BP, but I had a high heart rate. On the few days leading up to my 2nd infusion my pulse rate was really high, I swear I could hear my heart beating out of my chest. On the day of my infusion the nurse was taking my pulse before the tx and it was 125, so then my MO took my pulse and said it was 140. He rushed me to get an EKG (luckily in the same building) and said if it was still that high I was going to the ER. EKG read 105 with no irregularity. My MO cleared me for the tx, but there was talk that my port was possibly the cause of the increased pulse rate. Apparently the port, if placed incorrectly, could press on an atrium and cause an irregularity. The next day when I came in for my Neulasta my pulse was high again and they rushed me to get a chest x-ray. It showed no irregularity so I was cleared again. 2 days later when I was going through terrible SE's my pulse was so high (DH kept taking it) that I was ready to go to the ER twice, but the MO I called first said the steroids were probably the cause coupled with anxiety and told me to take xanax. Long story short, after my other SE's subsided my pulse rate lowered. Now that I am a few days from round 3 I am monitoring it again.


    I just want to share with everyone that I had a rough second round so I called my MO the other day to discuss a new plan for round 3 on Wed. One of the things he said to me was that for the first round they load you up on the most stuff (highest steroid dose, antiemetics, etc.) and see how you do. Then, based on your reactions and SE's they lower doses and make changes because it's easier to throw the hard stuff at you first and then take things away rather than the opposite. I know that I can't have another 3 days in a row where I sleep only 1 hour so I am going down on the steroids. Also, my bone pain was ridiculous so I will be lowering Neulasta (as long as WBC's are good). We are going to tweak other things too, so I guess my point is talk to your MO's and make changes. I'm sure round 3 wont be pleasant either, but I feel a little better going into it with my changes.


    Let's all have a good week...

  • LiLi1964
    LiLi1964 Member Posts: 331
    edited November 2013

    SpecialK - we do not pay into a state disability fund here in WI so there is no fund for me to draw from.  I have other health issues and my PCP was encourageing me to leave the workforce and go on disability in the few months just prior to diagnosis.  I'm stubborn and want to be self sufficient, I started working at 16 and full-time since 18, so I balked at her about it and worked as best I could during that period; can't even begin to tell you w/o looking at busn records how much time I missed from work since Jan1st but it is a disgusting amount....I'm thinking she would have my Care Manager use that in conjuction w/current situation when preparing the application.  Our health insurance carrier assigns a Care Manager to every cancer patient to assist in all aspects of everything that may come up; mine is very knowledgeable w/the disability issue, I know, because my PCP had her contact me, strangely enough, the same day I came home from tests that turned out to be the ones verifying my cancer dx, because I was already losing so much time from work.

    I don't want to leave work permanently but am getting pressure from my family to do so.  I will wait until I see what Care Manager has to say and how I handle this next chemo.  See, if my current employer ever let me go, there is nobody who would hire me w/the attendance record I  have because of all the time lost from work due to the health issues I've had for the last 10 years. 

    I do believe my employer is going to be very compassionate during this period; yet they have a business that needs to be run and coming up on the end of the year....this is the time they rely on me most.  I don't know if they CAN be as compassionate as I need; we will see......

  • plumbread
    plumbread Member Posts: 5
    edited November 2013


    Thanks for the reply SuckitBC. I don't have a port b/c they said I only need 4 times. I will see my MO tomorrow to discuss the changes. I can't stand the same SEs happened to me for my second round. Please keep me posted of how much dosage you reduced and how you felt for your 3rd round. I will be turning 40 at this coming December.


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    Dx 06/25/2013, IDC, 1cm, Grade 2, 0/5 nodes ER+PR+, HER2-Surgery 08/08/2013 Mastectomy (left); Chemotherapy 10/18/2013 TC 4 rounds

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited November 2013


    LiLi - it is a gamble to apply for federal disab at stage II but with other issues concurrent it may improve your chances. One thing I would really stress is that because you need your physicians to provide statements, make sure you have them document every side effect and how it impacts your inability to work. Also include any emotional impact, as well as physical symptoms - don't leave anything out. This is very important in building the case for approval. Also, expect to be turned down initially, you may have to appeal, and you may have to retain a SS attorney for the appeal. They usually don't charge a retainer up front, but take a chunk of your award - which will be backdated to your application date and paid retroactively if you are approved. SSDI is a federal program that is administered by each state, some states are more lenient than others in granting approval - it does not seem to be that cohesive across the country. I am not sure if they can go back and piece together the missed work over time, or if it has to be a solid five month absence before you can apply. There is also a dollar earned limit so if you were well compensated you would have exceeded that threshold even though you were missing work - I believe you cannot earn more than $1,000 per month. I hope you can work something out that is good for you and your employer - it is an additional stress to have to worry about this while dealing with treatment - I am so sorry you are stuck in this position.

  • Pam358
    Pam358 Member Posts: 294
    edited November 2013


    Kim - your comment that every solution seems to come with it's own set of problems, seems so true. I commented to my husband the other day about taking medication for the side effect of a medication for a side effect....sheesh.


    Plumbread - welcome to the group! So sorry to hear about your reaction/side effect - it sounds scary. As I read through your description the steroids did come to my mind. I hope they are able to figure it out.


    Deb Dylan - I agree, it's not fair that we lose hair we wish would stay and keep hair we wish would go!!

  • Tipps04
    Tipps04 Member Posts: 16
    edited November 2013


    Spirit - thank you so much for the scripture verses! I have been struggling with my faith this entire year. My step dad passed in April and my mom passed unexpectedly a month after my diagnosis. I have spent the last few months struggling with the reasons why all of this has happened at once. I am trying each day to get back to my faith and your posting I feel is a part of my journey.


    Had my amazing husband shave my head on Sat night - no tears shed this time! It felt so much better as my scalp was so itchy.


    DebDylan - I have not yet looked in the mirror either! For whatever reason, not quite ready at the moment. Just getting comfortable with my wig and the new look, so one step at a time for sure. I wear a cap or my wig in the house. My daughter is 10 and she has said she would prefer not to see me without something on my head. I think she is afraid I won't look like Mommy. My eyelashes are are quite sparse these days as well. As for the leg hair, I had to shave my legs as it was not really falling out, but no new growth there.


    Hope all the ladies going through SE this weekend are starting to feel better....

  • lgkgde13
    lgkgde13 Member Posts: 164
    edited November 2013


    Debdylan-I will be thinking of you and lili as well. We will all get through this. Today was much better. I was out of house from 10 to 2 running errands so I can hunker down after treatment tomorrow. I am exhausted now but do good to be out. I wore my wig without a hat today and although it is human hair wig it still looks like a wig to me. Also as soon as I come home I rip it off. So sweaty under there. I think I am going to try head scarf tomorrow. I have a fab one and want to be comfortable during chemo so wig is out.


    Tipps...so sorry to hear about your mom and dad. That is terrible. I can't even imagine. You are in my prayers.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited November 2013


    I always pulled my wig off and tossed it on the counter right inside the door from the garage into the kitchen - hot and itchy. If it was still there when my DH came home from work it scared him every time - he thought it was a dead animal, lol! If you have not tried a wig liner they really help cut down on the itch.

  • lgkgde13
    lgkgde13 Member Posts: 164
    edited November 2013


    specialk - that made me laugh. My hubby gets scared too lol. I have wig on wig stand at night in our bedroom and when he get ups to go to bathroom at night it freaks him out all the time. I told him I am going to put it in bed one night and pretend it's me lol....I will try the wig cap :)

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