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Ladies has anyone had their Onc recommend Vitamin B12 and Folate after treatment? My wife's Onc originally, back in August, recommended Vitamin D, which she takes. Never had he mentioned anything about B12 or Folate before. Then at her last appointment a week or so ago he blurted that out. He also told her to "back down a little bit" on the Vitamin D. I wonder why? -
gillyone thanks for sharing that info. every little bit helps
ksmatthews I do hurt more when I don't wear a bra. I have just finished up with rads in Sept. my second go around with the beast as I did not go radiation with the first go around but I can tell you I have pain now, but because of my cancer being in between the major/minor pectorals I will be asking for one. I feel like if they will do it for you, have it done for peace of mine. That way you will know. Please update us when you do. -
Gilly: Thanks for sharing all that information. It reinforced some things I've been hearing and reading. Very nice to hear it from a doc. -
Hi AlHusband, I was recommended B6 and b12. The B's (esp 6 and 12) are good for energy and fight neuropathies from chemo. -
Thanks njprn. I kinda thought that. Just found it weird because my wife hadn't complained about neuropathy OR low energy. -
My onc never told me to take the B's either. My family doc finally said to do it this last time after blood tests showed my B12 really low. I am not even on chemo anymore but was told the after affects of even one dose of chemo can upset our metabolism. So now taking a liquid multi vitamin (mix in juice) that seems to be helping. -
ALHusband, Do you know why carboplatin and Taxol were chosen for your wife's chemo ? Was it because of the BRACA2? I'm curious because I think the platinum drugs are a good choice for TNBC and was told I needed to be in a trial to get it, that ACT was protocol. -
njprn actually it was Cisplatin and Taxol that they used. Cisplatin was not a choice when setting up her treatment on her profile on this board. So, I chose Carboplatin as the closest thing because they're quite similar. The reason they used it was that my wife had had Stage 4 Hodgkin's Lymphoma 16 years ago. To treat that, they used Adriamycin and some other chemo drugs. You can only have so much Adriamycin in a lifetime without risking leukemia and/or heart failure. So, Adriamycin was not an option. Cisplatin and Taxol were agreed upon as the best course of action by the doctors, and the tumor board, at Vanderbilt Cancer Center in Nashville and a rock star doctor at Cornell Weill agreed, as did the local Onc here in Huntsville. The Doc at Vanderbilt cited that IF my wife was BRCA positive, then Cisplatin and Taxol could actually work BETTER than Adriamycin. At the time, we didn't know whether she was BRCA positive or not. Apparently TNBC in the presence of a BRCA mutation is "exquisitively sensitive" to platinum based therapies. Well, it turns out my wife was BRCA2 positive. In a weird way it was a two edged sword! Being BRCA positive meant the chemo may be more effective, but also meant a Mx in the affected breast and a prophylactic Mx in the other one. Also means prophylactic ovary removal is in order, which will happen Nov 6. Then , with God's help, we can hopefully put this whole nightmare in the rear view mirror. -
ALHusband:
Although a few years ago, most docs were happy with the Vitamin D level reading anything over 32. (Mine was a 5 at diagnose!!!). Now, since more research has come forth regarding Vit D3, most oncs like it to be in the 50's. Mine is 58 now and my internist also told me to cut back from 4,000 units per day to 2,000, which have done. As with any vitamin or supplement, too much of any one thing can also cause problems and having too high a Vit D level can be googled to see the symptoms. I also take 1,000 mgs of B12 a day too. Wishing you and your wife all the best.
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And njprn the Onc at Vanderbilt did say that they are doing clinical trials with Cisplatin and Taxol. There is significant evidence mounting that perhaps this combination should replace ACT as the standard of care for TNBC with BRCA mutation present. -
Thanks for the info LRM -
Njprn: Check out this link - very interesting:
http://www.cancerfocus.org/forum/showthread.php?p=9981#post9981
ALhubby: You're welcome!
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ALHusband, I was in the Vanderbilt trial here in Boston at Dana Farber. 12 wks of Cisplatin, Taxol and RADoo1 ( which was blinded), surgery, A/C then rads. I had done research and platinum drugs had been studied with some promising results so I enrolled. They said you get at least standard protocol when in trials therefore the A/C. I've also read that if the TN is basal like in pathology that it responds well to that drug as well. Also Cisplatin is what is used for ovarian cancer (basal like) and since the BRACA gene is close it makes sense that it would be used. I agree that it will replace a/c someday for some TN's. Plus once with A is enough!! Well wishes to you and your wife and may this all be in the rear mirror soon!! -
LRM. Thanks for the link. Interesting. I've read about the PARP inhibitors and asked about/for them and was told they didn't use them there at that time and if I wanted them I would have to find a trial that used them. I was dx in Jan 2012 so not sure if that's still the case but they appear promising!! Fingers crossed for a cure!! Be well.... -
Please read up on the B6 for the neuropathy because if you take to much B6 you will actually get worse symptoms of this. I did and read up on it and turns out it can cause numbness. I was not taking to much either, sometimes it is just a side-effects of it -
Hi Ladies (and one ALHusband)!
I wanted to just hop on here and tell you all that I have received your requests for the info. I will send it out this weekend for sure. I was sending through a yahoo account, but they changed their format, and now all messages are linked, like a running conversation, sort of like gmail. So I didn't want to send from there, because I wasn't sure if it was forwarding everyone's e-mails to everyone else. It was very confusing to me, and I'm no dummy!
Anyways, I'm setting up account on my desktop, (a non-yahoo account) and will be sending your materials over the weekend. Just wanted to update you.
Hugs to all my sisters ... and to one ALHusband and his wife! -
J thanks and good luck to you too...............the second go around it a lot more on the mental for me than the first go around.
ALhusband I think that it might be that there are new studies coming out that to much Vitamin D is not as good for us as they thought it was. (not just cancer patients, all people) -
It's with a heavy heart that I let you know that Michelle (LUV) is in the care of the Hospice and she doesn't have much time left. I find is so hard that this tiny vivacious lady won't be able to do all the things she has always loved doing. She has always been ready to go anywhere and to give life all she had. Many prayers are with Luv, Rick and her family. -
Cocker_Spaniel,
I am new to here so do not know Michelle, however my heart is heavy as well. I send out my prayers to her and her family as well.
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to many leaving us....................I hate this disease. My thoughts and prayers are with them -
you know I been thinking about how scared we call can get with this disease but also how scared newbies would be coming on here and seeing several dying or have already gone. I can't help but wonder myself if some of our sisters are dying from something other than the cancer........Do we know? Like with Naan we all know how much cancer had taken over her body but was it cancer that claimed her life or was it pneumonia? With Michelle do we know? I am just curious as I know that in the statics for the survival even though cancer is not what takes a person they still include them as one being lost to it. I hope this makes sense and does not totally sound cold because I do not mean it that way at all. -
I am new to this group also but want to send my condolences to Michelle's family. My prayers for her & her family. May she be in God's loving arms. -
Marsha how you doing today? -
Stupidboob, you have a very valid point re how our sisters are passing. I keep trying to be positive but it is hard.
Thoughts with Michelles family. I have been reading some of her posts, such a lovely lady.
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Stupidboob,
Doing good. Out with my daughter & grandson getting Halloween decorations & goodies. Now this year is going to be hard as I had the habit of eating leftover trick or treat goodies. So far been doing real well. My Birthday is tomorrow & thought I might not see another so I'm on a natural high!!!))
Thank you for asking.
I spoil myself on just a few items & my iPhone is one. So I not tied down in reading or to reply. We should all dress up this year & celebrate the child within!! -
So very sad and sorry to hear about Michelle - this is terrifying and so very depressing ! My thoughts and prayers are with Michelle - may she be free from pain and feel surrounded and supported by love and peace during her final days on this earth. May God give us all strength and courage to face the future - none of us knows what it holds for us. -
Just received this from a breast cancer survivor in my yoga class. She does not have TNBC but we all understand this bugger of a disease.
This is AWESOME ... something we should all remember.
A 92-year-old, petite, well-poised and proud man, who
is fully dressed each morning by eight o'clock, with his hair fashionably combed and shaved perfectly, even though he is legally blind, moved to a nursing home today.
His wife of 70 years recently passed away, making the move necessary. After many hours of waiting patiently in the lobby of the nursing home, he smiled sweetly when told his room was ready.
As he maneuvered his walker to the elevator, I provided a visual description of his tiny room, including the eyelet sheets that had been hung on his window.
I love it,' he stated with the enthusiasm of an eight-year-old having just been presented with a new puppy.
Mr. Jones, you haven't seen the room; just wait..'
'That doesn't have anything to do with it,' he replied.
Happiness is something you decide on ahead of time.
Whether I like my room or not doesn't depend on how the furniture is arranged .. it's how I arrange my mind. I already decided to love it.
It's a decision I make every morning when I wake up. I have a choice;
I can spend the day in bed recounting the difficulty I have with the parts of my body that no longer work, or get out of bed and be thankful for the ones that do.
Each day is a gift, and as long as my eyes open, I'll focus on the new day and all the happy memories I've stored away.. Just for this time in my life..
Old age is like a bank account.
You withdraw from what you've put in.
So, my advice to you would be to deposit a lot of happiness in the bank account of memories!
Thank you all for your part in filling my Memory Bank.
I am still depositing.
'Remember the five simple rules to be happy:
1. Free your heart from hatred.
2. Free your mind from worries.
3. Live simply.
4. Give more.
5. Expect less.
Have a nice day, unless you already have other plans. Thank you ladies & one (Al) husband for adding to my memory bank.
God Bless. -
thanks scouser47 it is very hard and I try to say well they are not me and I won't go until my time but for some reason that just does not bring me any comfort. Well, not a lot anyways. Everytime I hear of someone passing and especially since my returned it makes me wonder if it truly can be beat and if it is the chemo that is saving us or if it just was not our time.....I think you know what I am saying -
lookingforward66 I hope you have a WONDERFUL BIRTHDAY TOMORROW.................I totally understand about not knowing if you would be here..........that is how I feel too -
Nice post, Lookingforward. Thank you.
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