October 2013 Chemotherapy

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  • smrlvr
    smrlvr Member Posts: 422
    edited October 2013


    I just had my initial consult with my MO. I am only 2 weeks post op with dbl mastectomy and I still have my drains. Tomorrow I am having my port installed and it looks like chemo for me will start in November. I have read every post on this thread and have found all of your experiences to be so valuable in helping me to know what to expect. I will have 4 AC rounds followed by 4 rounds of taxol then rads. This should be starting in November but there is no November group out there and you all have been so helpful to me! I have ILC, stage IIb with 2/27 nodes. I had a bad day yesterday, but today is better, so Wren, hang in there! Any advice you all can give would be most appreciated.

  • Jaybird26
    Jaybird26 Member Posts: 49
    edited October 2013


    Hi Lonnie,


    I am currently on ACT. I know I receive 2 antiemetics and 1 steroid IV. I'm going to get my second infusion tomorrow and will write down the names. I can't remember the names off the top of my head.


    Thank you everyone for all the kind words I have been reading. It really helps to read this board. I am hoping that we all can pull through this difficult time with the love and support of all our loved ones including all of you brave beautiful women.


    I am sitting in the barber shop right now waiting to shave off my hair. Just hope when it grows back the grays won't!! I'm so anxious







    Tomorrow infusion #2 then 6 to go afterwards.



  • lonnie713
    lonnie713 Member Posts: 236
    edited October 2013


    Hi Jaybird26,


    Thank you so much, I appreciate that.


    How did you handle the first infusion? Have you gained any weight yet? Are the steroids making you hungry? I am going to get my hair cut really short tomorrow and then bald after my first infusion. The OC said it will start falling out right around teh second infusion. I would love to know what you are experiencing - I know that everyone is different but I am trying to prepare myself for the side affects.....but can one really prepare????


    Good luck tomorrow.

  • Headeast
    Headeast Member Posts: 619
    edited October 2013


    smrlvr, welcome!


    I joined this blog because of all the information shared and because I feel it is a nice 'sisterhood', we are all in this journey and we are not alone!


    As for advice, I can tell you what a friend of mine shared with me and it is helping:


    - Buy a three ring file and print a calendar with enough space to write down day by day your temperature, the days you will be in Nadir, what you eat, how you feel, side effects and medication you take, if any. In the same folder I have included my insurance paperwork, my work letters from HR, and tabs reading chemo 1, 2 etc. i already had the first one and I out the printouts of all medicine pre and chemo that they gave me.


    - the more you get prepared to you chemo day the better, less stress involved in the unknown.


    - find a large tote bag and build your 'chemo bag' with salty crackers or pretzels, ginger snaps, water, walking socks to use then while you are sitting in the infusion center, ipad or any magazines and music, bring headsets, two blankets, one for you and one for your driver. Yes, you will need one. You don't want to feel alone that day.


    - the week before the chemo start drinking at least eight bottles of water, stopped drinking coffee or any caffeinated product, don't drink alcohol because it doesn't help with the side effects, it makes it worse. No fried or heavy food. Make it easy for your system (liver, kidneys and stomach)


    - buy: claritinD, Imodium AdvilPM or whatever your doctor told you you might need for the days after the chemo. Only take medicines your doctor prescribes.


    - buy a scarf(ves) or find it in your house and have it reachable, or wig(s), hats, Dove soap or Aveeno, whatever soap is soft on your skin and moisturizes it. neutrogena body oil (light sesame formula) Biotene mouth wash to prevent mouth sores.


    Once you get inside the infusion center, in the area designated for you, check if they have any curtains or separators from the other ones and close them. I was so nervous that I forgot to even think about that and a person in a much worse condition than me (a port in her brain) came and I saw the whole thing and made me cry non stop. I am not used to hospitals and made me very nervous. You don't want for you to get nervous, so close everything and use your own stuff, your blanket, pillow, etc.


    I hope this help. I think it has helped me so far.


    Build your body to fight and win!

  • lgkgde13
    lgkgde13 Member Posts: 164
    edited October 2013


    Vintagegal- as soon as I see a clump it is being shaved. I had long hair about one month ago but went to short cut but still about 4-5 inches. This hair everywhere is annoying. I want it gone to be over it already but I don't if you know what I mean :)

  • Pam358
    Pam358 Member Posts: 294
    edited October 2013


    Jaybird - maybe we can get a petition going so those gray hairs don't come back. I usually color my hair and I'm due so when I buzz it down all the gray ones are going to show! Good Luck tomorrow!


    MarchMay - glad you are feeling a little better.


    Travlmom - The pain sounds awful. Catching up to the pain that is already there is always the worst, that's why it takes so long. Anyway you can get on a schedule with the pain meds? It will help so much more if you don't have to catch up to it.


    VintageGal- I'm with you about the 10" strands, so glad I cut that - the shorter ones are bad enough.


    Smrlvr - welcome to the group. You are more than welcome to hang out in the October group. Someone will eventually start a November group and then you can go back and forth or just stay here :-) My treatment plan is similar to yours 4AC, 4T and then rads.


    Lonnie - welcome to the group. I had my first AC infusion last Wednesday. I had Emend, Aloxi, and Dexamethasone via IV during my first treatment. I was originally prescribed Compazene and Ativan. I had some issues with nausea and ended up with a couple of days of IV Zofran and fluids and a prescription for Zofran. I am going to meet with my MO on Thursday to discuss how we will proceed for infusion #2 as I know there will be some changes. I didn't have any issues one way or another with eating once I got through the nausea by Saturday night/ Sunday.

  • Kiko
    Kiko Member Posts: 35
    edited October 2013


    hi friends!


    I m going to have my second shot of chemotherapy tomorrow !


    Scared of the first experience that brought all the weakness , nausea, and bone pains!


    Plz remember me in your prayers !


    Huggs to all!!

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited October 2013


    good luck Kiko. I hope it goes ok for you. Will be thinking of you

  • relocatedtarheel
    relocatedtarheel Member Posts: 159
    edited October 2013


    kiko-prayers for you! Again, I am so thankful for this forum.

  • TeamKim
    TeamKim Member Posts: 568
    edited October 2013


    Kiko -- prayers and hugs!!! Hope it goes better this time, now that you and the docs are better prepared as to how you might react. You will be in my thoughts over the next several days, brave sister!

  • mfm48
    mfm48 Member Posts: 110
    edited October 2013


    Hi ladies. Sounds like we are all having a tough October. Its hard for others to fully understand just how this poison makes us feel emotionally and physically. I am on the upswing finally from my 2nd TC and Neulasta shot. This time went better than last. I've been more proactive. Don't know how you feel about pain killers, but I have taken the percocet for 6-8 days each cycle (usually just at night) along with the lorazepam to help me sleep and keep nausea away. Miralax in the morning to prevent constipation. Tums if I feel heartburn coming on and Claritin every morning. Ibuprofen in between if I need it. I know it sounds like a lot of meds, but I drink a ton of water also, and it seems to help the SE's. I've been through multiple surgeries where I needed Percocet and have never had a problem stopping the meds once the pain stops. So, I guess I'm just saying - get ahead of the pain, get ahead of the constipation, keep walking and drinking. Also, I got super weepy last time. Not so much this time. Its kind of like PMS - when I started getting weepy this time, I thought - its just the chemo - and felt better. I think we all get affected differently but have to find whatever way we can to feel better. Smoothies and milkshakes are my drink of choice right now!


    SpecialK and school counselor - loved your posts! Thinking of you all and hope it passes fast for all of us!

  • gia444
    gia444 Member Posts: 68
    edited October 2013


    Wishing you all the best Kiko for your big day tomorrow.

  • Gramof2boys
    Gramof2boys Member Posts: 194
    edited October 2013


    Hi, all! I will be going for treatment #2 on Friday. I have kept myself busy by going to work everyday, only missed last Monday, because I wasn't sure how I would feel after chemo. It really keeps my mind off of things. I am usually off on Wednesdays(work 4 days a week). Tomorrow will probably be my last day with hair( so dreading this), so I'm going to try and have a day for ME!!!!! I've done really well through first chemo except for terrible stomach cramps day 4 -6. I am going to start my Christmas shopping because my surgery will be between Thanksgiving and Christmas! Stay strong everyone, we will win this fight.

  • naiviv
    naiviv Member Posts: 535
    edited October 2013


    Kiko, Will be think about you tomorrow and praying!!!!


    Vivian

  • lgkgde13
    lgkgde13 Member Posts: 164
    edited October 2013


    Jaybird - thinking of you today :)


    So far so good for me post #2 of AC yesterday....no Neulasta for me since reaction first go around. Back next week to see what my counts are and to see if I can continue with dose dense or move to every 3 wks...

  • Annecy
    Annecy Member Posts: 54
    edited October 2013


    Good morning ladies- The wait is over.... I finally received the call late yesterday afternoon I will be starting treatment this am. I have been on the wait list since 10/09. I was instructed to start taking immediately dexamethasone (anti-nausea ) and be at the cancer clinic by 8:15 am for blood test following with chemo treatment 2 hrs later. Needless, to say it has been a sleepless night with a lot of crying with a pounding headache. Reading the posts has helped to cope immensely. I admire each and everyone of you with your courage and determination to get through this nightmare & bring moral support . Thank you!

  • lgkgde13
    lgkgde13 Member Posts: 164
    edited October 2013


    thinking of you Nicole! You can do this

  • SchoolCounselor
    SchoolCounselor Member Posts: 452
    edited October 2013


    Hang in there Nicole...you will be fine. That strength is in all of us.


    Thinking of you KIko


    .mfm48. I can't remember when I had a milkshake last. I guess that is something to look forward to.


    Infusion center told me my veins are horrible, which I knew, so I have to decide between a port and a picc lne. Any one have a picc line? How annoying is it?. Does it intefere with anything?

  • Headeast
    Headeast Member Posts: 619
    edited October 2013


    good luck kiko amd Nicole!

  • marchmay67
    marchmay67 Member Posts: 5
    edited October 2013


    Good Luck Nicole


    You are strong and will be able to do this with the help of all these wonderful women who are also helping me get through this journey. My thoughts are with you!

  • gia444
    gia444 Member Posts: 68
    edited October 2013


    Wishing you all the best Nicole as you go through this.

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited October 2013


    Thinking about you Nicole and hoping it goes smoothly for you today with few/no side effects. Hopefully you will sleep well tonight.

  • relocatedtarheel
    relocatedtarheel Member Posts: 159
    edited October 2013


    thinking of you nicole-you can do this

  • MsJean63
    MsJean63 Member Posts: 42
    edited March 2014


    Got back from my first treatment follow up. MO said white counts are down but they should pick up in the next couple days. She said that the SE aren't cumulative and I should expect the same SE after the next treatment only that I may be more tired. I always heard that they are cumulative and it gets worse down the road. What was it like for you girls after the second treatment? She did say that the horrible cramps I had weren't the norm and to take tylenol 3. Looking forward to four days with no Dr.'s appointments, before it starts again.

    P.S.  Did lose 9 pounds since last week.  I had gained 17 since this started.

  • Gramof2boys
    Gramof2boys Member Posts: 194
    edited October 2013


    I'm wondering also about cumulative effects of SE. I did well after my first treatment except for the abdominal cramps, @MsJean63 is that what you had too? My MO said to try Prilosec. I hope that may help the problem. Next treatment is Friday, I hope your MO is right. Good luck everyone.

  • kittykate78
    kittykate78 Member Posts: 23
    edited October 2013


    good luck Nicole!


    @schoolcounselor - I have a port and kinda love it now that it's healed. I don't feel my treatments at all.


    I've been wondering about the cumulative effect, too. I've had 3 tx so far (taxol) and the headaches are wicked, but the only real thing I feel getting worse is the fatigue. I'm just plain ol worn out. Also getting pretty sensitive to smells and sounds but that might be the headaches, too. I'm not nauseous but my stomach is....off. I get hungry, so I eat, but then I feel sick :(


    Thinking of all you Wednesday ladies today and wishing you an easy day and good nights sleep :)

  • MsJean63
    MsJean63 Member Posts: 42
    edited March 2014

    @G2b-for the cramps I took an extra strength Tylenol and a xanax.  Xanax relaxed my stomach, helped me sleep and gave me a couple hours of relief.  I saw your prior post and was planning on taking Prilosec too this time around.  I'm going to up the Tylenol to my Tylenol 3 and do coleace so I don't get constipation from the Tylenol 3.  My MO asked if I had diarrhea which caused the cramps, but I didnt, so she didn't have an answer.

    I noticed that i'm way more sensitive to smells.  My finance's coffee breath is the worst, I dont drink coffee and didn't like the smell before chemo :-)


  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited October 2013


    Side effects are not cumulative in the sense of nausea on tx#1 and worse nausea on tx#2 - it is cumulative fatigue and the aggregate malaise of blood counts that are lower each time, thus causing more fatigue and weakened muscles. I disagree that the SE are not cumulative - I don't know anyone on these boards, and I have been here for 3 years, that felt as good after their last chemo as they did after their first. Just sayin' ...

  • Jaybird26
    Jaybird26 Member Posts: 49
    edited October 2013

    Hello.  Treatment #2 is done. I am 25% through with my chemotherapy!  Yea! Feeling good so far and I am wishing for all of you the same. Xoxo

  • Pam358
    Pam358 Member Posts: 294
    edited October 2013


    Kiko - I hope everything went well!


    mfm48 - doesn't sound like too many meds to me, sounds like a solid plan to take care of and stay on top of things.


    Gram - Good Luck on Friday and with Christmas shopping! I can't believe the commercials have already started.


    Lgk - glad to hear that things are good so far, I hope they stay that way.


    Nicole - Welcome to the Warrior Club!


    School Counselor - I have a port and love it. However, when I was having issues last week after chemo and they accessed my port they left in the access for the next day to give me some more fluids. It then became sort of like a PICC line - at least in the sense that there were tubes coming out and I had to watch out for them. It was only one day so it wasn't that big of a deal for me but I thought it could get annoying long term and was glad I had a port. Just my 2 cents.


    I started to take Prilosec for my heartburn and it has helped immensely. Also needed to take some Miralax this morning since there was no movement yesterday. I know one day is not a big deal, but I have IBS and unless I've taken Imodium there is always movement. I just wanted to stay on top of it and it all worked out. However, I think the whole capful was too much since I had trouble with painful cramping (saying to myself "but at least you are not nauseous was very helpful) But maybe next time I will take only 1/2 capful and see if that works without as many cramps. But if someone has another suggestion, I'm listening.

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