I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange
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Hi Bren - nice to see you too. It's been a while since I posted here. Last night, I just got so disgusted, I decided I needed to come back here and vent to my like-minded cyber-sisters!
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Exactly! I love this guy!
What could be more reasonable than losing an election by 5 million votes then demanding the president to govern as they would, or else shut the government down and not pay our bills?
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AnneW - is this shutdown going to affect Boulder and environs recovery? I would suppose most recovery efforts are by local and state agencies, but FEMA might be there. Maybe they are exempt from the shutdown as emergency personnel?
The horse is out of the barn on the ACA - the stupeedteahadists have to realize that now. Ofcourse, the states that chose not to develop exchanges, I suppose the federal exchange is not available to them? So, turns out Teahadists are hurting their own states.
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Kam - don't you know - they are saving their states from the horror of a government takeover of health care the government peaking into your vagina and controlling your access to decent care... Oh - that's right - that's what is happening now in the RED STATES!!!
pah - Benghazi!!!
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The demand for health insurance is so great, that the state and federal websites are overloaded today. Thank goodness that we have Obamacare! Just like the Teahadists feared, people really, really like the ACA!!
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Donna - that's cool to hear. So even the federal website is available?
And let's not forget:

Now the GOP will introduce CRs, agency by agency, so they can soon blame the Democrats for this shutdown should they vote "no" to each of these CRs. And as they bring back federal government, piecemeal, they will conveniently leave out the ACA. This is not governing, this is terrorism.
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Kam - the ACA is already funded, so they Teahadists cannot stop it now. That is poetic justice! And yes, the federal website is up - it's lovely --> https://www.healthcare.gov/
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Hi, Anne - hope things are getting better in your beautiful part of the world
Hi, Donna, we haven't "met" yet - but happy to have you here RANT AWAY....it is so crazy, I can almost hear Dave Barry writing about it, but then saying " I must be making this up?" instead of his usual when describing the absurd, "I'm not making this up."
BTW, Dave Barry has a column about having a colonoscopy, that is SO hysterically funny....think I got it in email.
Blue, love your cartoon, going to email it to friends now...
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Well, negotiating with the Republican party would take the form of "You remove Obamacare, and we'll restart the government." That NOT a negotiation, Republicans! That is a hostage situation.
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OMG I can't believe that's their headline! Not that they look like a serious newspaper or anything...
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Total terrorists and I hope it backfires completely. Some of the lousiest people on the fact of this earth. I do note though that while they may have stole some of the thunder on its opening day..... ACA-- Obamacare is going forward and I think ( certainly hope ) that it will end up being a run-away train. Un-stoppable in the end.
I have lots and lots of words for the T.Partiers but I'm sure this post would not stay here long enough to be read.
Jackie
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A good reminder about who we are:

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Exactly why these jerks don't belong anywhere near t.v. or radio.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/10/01/sean-hannity-fox-news-breaking/
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It can't be stated often enough: if Boehner would have brought the clean CR to a vote in the House, it would have passed, with flying colors. What we have is one-fifth, of one-half, of one-third of the government that has found a way to burn the place down. The Teahdadists should be proud of themselves (Bachmann has said as much).
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Poor Donna. You're in the wrong state, girl!
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So again....what's their endgame here? Obamacare is already funded, yes? So what's their benefit to forcing a shutdown?
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I'm trying to see their logic. Some of these people are obviously intelligent so there's some logic in there...somewhere? Yes?
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Enjoyful - tell me about it - it's not easy to be a progressive in Texas. I was even advised not to put an Obama sticker on my car, for fear that I could be shot! But in reality, Texas is turning purple rather quickly. Did you hear that Wendy Davis is running for Governor?
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I did! Good luck with that!
It's a shame that you have to worry about bumper sticker-related violence. Really? -
I agree that they do not seem to have an end-game whatsoever! But the Democrats will have the last word in the 2014 midterms. Even with gerry-mandering, I have a feeling that we will take back the House.
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Donna, come to MA.
From: Elizabeth Warren <info@elizabethwarren.com>
Congress passed the Affordable Care Act to solve a real, honest-to-God problem.
Our health care system was broken. 48 million people in this country had no health insurance. Women couldn't get access to cancer screenings. People with diabetes were denied health insurance because of pre-existing conditions. People with cancer hit the caps on their health insurance spending. And health spending in this country was growing far too fast.
So we worked hard, we compromised, and we came up with a solution. A solution that will substantially improve the lives of millions of Americans – because that's the way a democracy works.
It's time to end the debate about whether the Affordable Care Act should exist and whether it should be funded.
Congress voted for this law. President Obama signed this law. The Supreme Court upheld this law. The President ran for reelection on this law. His opponent said he would repeal it – and his opponent lost by five million votes.
Right now, Republicans are taking the government and the economy hostage, threatening serious damage to both unless the President agrees to gut the Affordable Care Act. For days, they even tried to change the law so that employers can deny women access to birth control coverage.
I am the mother of a daughter and the grandmother of granddaughters. I will never vote to let a group of backward-looking ideologues cut women's access to birth control. We have lived in that world, and we are not going back. Not ever.
I see things like this and I wonder what alternate reality some of my colleagues are living in.
So let me be very clear about what is happening in the real world: The Affordable Care Act is the law of the land. Millions of people are counting on it – people who need health care coverage, people who need insurance policies that don't disappear just when they are sickest.
The law is here to stay, and it will stay.
Now the government is shut down. We haven't fixed the sequester because of all the obstruction. We haven't finished a budget because of all the obstruction. We haven't even passed a single appropriations bill because of all the obstruction.
The least we can do – the bare minimum we can do – would be to pass a "continuing resolution" to open the doors back up and turn the lights back on. We could ensure that over a million federal workers aren't staying home for no reason. We could end the government shutdown.
But the Republicans have refused to do even that. They have shuttered the government unless the President agreed to de-fund the Affordable Care Act.
The threats may continue, but they are not working and they never will. In a democracy, hostage tactics are the last resort for those who can't win their fights through elections, can't win their fights in Congress, can't win their fights for the Presidency, and can't win their fights in Courts.
For this right-wing minority, hostage-taking is all they have left – a last gasp of those who cannot cope with the realities of our democracy.
The time has come for those legislators who cannot cope with the reality of our democracy to get out of the way – so that those of us in BOTH parties can get back to working on solving the real problems faced by the American people.
We have real work to do.
Elizabeth
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I love Elizabeth Warren! It would be awesome to see her and Hillary team up in 2016!
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Donna .. looking for the "like" button.
hugs,
Bren
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I'd love to see a Hillary-Elizabeth ticket! I'd vote for them twice!
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E, you have to move to IL to vote twice.
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