I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange
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Sigh......these tea party, extreme right wing wackos never cease to amaze me......ya just can't make this stuff up!
Florida: Obama Is Racist Against Whites
Not only is Rep. Ted Yoho of Florida more than eager to throw his support behind a proposed birther legislation, he’s also on board with the fun new accusation that President Obama’s tax on tanning beds is “racist.” During a Tea Party meeting this week, Yoho boasted about convincing Speaker of the House John Boehner that the tax was racist. “I had an Indian doctor in our office the other day, very dark skin, with two non-dark skin people, and I ask this to him, I said, ‘Have you ever been to a tanning booth?’ and he goes, ‘No, no need,’” Yoho told the Tea Party crowd. “So therefore it’s a racist tax and I thought I might need to get a sun tanning booth so I can come out and say I’ve been disenfranchised because I got taxed because of the color of my skin. As crazy as that sounds, that’s what the left does right. By God, if it works for them, it’ll work for us…”
Oklahoma: Obama Is Totally A Kenyan, But What Can You Do?
Rep. Markwayne Mullin of Oklahoma has come out of the closet—as a birther. Unfortunately, while he believes all viable evidence proves Barack Obama probably was born in Kenya and forged his birth certificate so he could run for president, he’s afraid that it’s a little too late to do anything about it now. At a town hall meeting on Thursday, Mullin refused the insistence of a self-proclaimed “Birther Princess” that he take documents from an investigation conducted by Maricopa Sheriff Joe Arpaio’s “Cold Case Posse” that concluded Obama’s birth certificate was a sham. “I believe what you’re saying and I don’t support this president whatsoever,” Mullin explained. “But ma’am, we lost November 6th. We had the opportunity to get another president in there…Who would’ve thought we would ever actually be questioning if we had a natural-born president being president?…Now let’s move on to some other issues. I believe it’s still there, but my God if we didn’t prove it in the first four years, what do you think the chances are now?”
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SIGH.
Jackie
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hahahaha!
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RL - yikes, didn't think I was "feeding the beast" - was hoping I was expressing what a waste of time it was to create Blue Lines. Will happily try it your way
Gorgeous sunshine here, was up on a hill with friends last night, looking for meteors, but was too early. Lovely star filled sky, tho. Planning to set alarm for b4 sunrise to see meteors tonight. 1st crescent moon, so not too bright.
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Some anti choice people go to great lengths to make their point. And no, it wasn't god who got them out of this, it was a Venezualan fishing vessel.
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How the 1% in the feline world live:
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Lassie, I can't wait to see what their 'new plan' is.
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No, Sun, you weren't feeding the beast! I was making a rhetorical comment in case anyone without "ignore" on decided to answer. I should have phrased it, "We shouldn't feed them, it only encourages them to stick around." and made a separate paragraph.
On further reflection, though, they seem to stick around anyway, rather like .... Well ... You know. In my house, we use bug spray to keep them outside. Now where is my can of troll-b-gone....
Jackie, that's unfortunately about the size of it. We could add a bit dollop of "waaaaaahh" in there, too.
I had a brief discussion with a conservative couple this week at a social function. They are appalled at the Republicans' behavior and no longer call themselves Republicans because they are mortified to be associated with such shenanigans. They called the current crop "vicious" - they found particularly troubling the overwhelming insistence on cutting food aid to poor people. They looked ill when discussing that, and couldn't imagine that so-called compassionate people, let alone people who trumpet their "Christianity," could support something so unChristian.
I agreed.
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What do you want to bet that the Gastonguay couple saw the movie "Life of Pi" and thought that they would see amazing things? Too bad they didn't understand the ending.
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I'll be glad to see what the Gastonguay couple come up with next. They were fortunate....their God, bless their hearts --- sent them a lot of help of which they I'm sure, happily availed themselves. Probably a great lesson here -- we are our brother's keeper.....even when our taxes might go places we wish they didn't.
Kind of puts me in mind of John Brown succumbing because it was HIS 'right of way'. So leave and don't pay taxes....and you know, don't let the boat dock or anything else give you a slam on the way out. Such tiresome types.....and so much for principles that got you right back to where you started from. Is their a lesson here I'd say over again.
Jackie
so sorry I'm being rather brusque.
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The Gastonguays ought to be held accountable for endangering those small children. What idiots. Oh and they should pay for their rescue.
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I don't think Mardibra was being a troll. She stated that most children up for adoption have been taken from parents who could not or would not care for them. This is true. However she saw the solution as taking the children away as soon as they were born. That "solution" flies in the face of several T-party screeds. First, the far right says government should stay out of the lives of private citizens. Therefore under what situation should government disapproval of parents not be interfering? Second, how can the government determine what's right for the individual? Mardibra doesn't address these issues.
The larger issue is the simplistic nature of her "solution". Under what situations are children taken from parents and made available for adoption? Are the children taken from the family because the parents simply cannot support them? This was the case of the two boys (brothers) that my sister adopted. The family was so poor that the children were suffering from malnutrition and yes this was in America. If health care with family planning support hadbeen available to these parents of seven children, would they have had so many children that the youngest did not get enough to eat?
In Arkansas, the schools send food home with children on Fridays so the kids will have something to eat over the weekend. Malnutrition is a major problem in rural America as well as the inner cities. Some children are put in foster care because their mom is in prison and the father is absent. When the mom is released, she doesn't have the education or skill to get a job to support them. Even if she did have skills, jobs for X-cons are hard to come by. I won't even go into the problems relating to drug abuse.
We have serious problems in this country; problems that cannot be "solved" by blaming and shaming. We need legislators who will stop wasting time on phony votes to overturn Obamacare and come up with solutions that are efficient and cost effective. It's time the T-party stopped whining and started to present workable solutions for the good of the Nation.
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Raising the minimum wage to a "living" wage would be a good start. And if I hear one more idiot screaming that doing so would hurt the economy...their specious argument is always that employers will cut back and people will lose jobs. Huh! If more folks had more money to spend, employers would be hiring more people to produce the goods and services these folks want. The middle class must expand in order to keep the U.S. growing.
I've never seen so much stupidity about macroeconomics by the GOTP and their supporters ever before.
And now I'm going up the street to our annual Peach Festival!
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However she saw the solution as taking the children away as soon as they were born. That "solution" flies in the face of several T-party screeds.
This is a recurring problem with the Tea Party. They want something, but often, what they desire does not match up with their rhetoric. And to be clear, I think the GOP is now run by the Tea Party via the way their gerrymandering has weeded out all but the most extreme in the Republican Primaries.
We recently had Townhall meetings, about off road vehicles in the national forest, with our local Tea Party Congressman and his very vocal Tea Party contingent as main participents (not sure why motorheads are usually conservative?). They want to keep all of the existing roads open, despite being told it costs money to keep roads maintained and open (otherwise they cause enviornmental issues), yet they want less government and to pay less taxes, the exact thing needed to keep these roads opened.
I can give more examples, but it's the same old same old, whether potholes, police, Social Security, Medicare, not wanting to purchase health insurance (as required by Obamacare), but will be the first to scream bloody murder should you mess with their benefits or Medicaid doesn't step into to pay for their healthcare.
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This deserves posting on both threads....
I have a friend who works for DYS (Dept of Youth Services) as a social worker. She is the one who gets called at all hours of the day and night to take children from their idiot parents. The majority of these kids are living in filth, hungry, in several day old dirty diapers, no bath in weeks, etc. Why does this happen when these families are on every possible state and federal program which should keep them healthy and fed? In more than 80% of the cases she sees it's because drug addicted mommy sold her EBT card for 50 cents on the dollar to buy more drugs. Mommy gets heroin and children get neglected. So do I think mommy should keep her legs shut? Yes!
Another local story which depicts the flip side of the MA EBT card debacle. Illegal Haitian immigrant drives drunk down the highway, hits a newspaper delivery truck, sends the truck and the driver off the highway crashing 50 feet below nearly killing him. What do they find in her purse? Her EBT card and three others. She is the one who buys them from drug addicted mommy.
So a higher minimum wage is going to help drug addicted mommy? I don't think so. You all seem to think that the majority of kids in foster care come from a two parent, loving decent home but mom and dad just can't make ends meet on a lousy minimum wage. Not true. DRUGS, DRUGS, DRUGS!!!! Put the needle down mommy! -
By the way, I'm not a member of the tea party.
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"The Tea Party movement is not a national political party; polls show that most Tea Partiers consider themselves to be Republicans and the movement's supporters have tended to endorse Republican candidates."
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Said differently, I don't align with tea party members. Better?
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Ever heard of contraception?
We had a court case here last week. A mother of 6 children was being tried for the murder of her toddler twins. They had been dead for a week before being discovered by their older sister. She starved them to death. Apparently she was depressed, the house was a mess and she just ignored the fact she had babies to look after. People like this should not have children.
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Without a doubt, some children live in horrible conditions. We all know this. What, Mardibra, is a solution? What ideas do you or your political leaders propose to address the problems?
I want solutions from the Republicans. The party routinely rejects Democratic ideas but I have yet to see any proposals from Republicans unless one wants to count their current proposal to eliminate the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program which will result in further increase of malnutrition in children. This is the party that once proposed that pickle relish and ketsup be counted as vegetable servings for school lunches.
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Kam...Tp'ers are a real wrecking ball to the Republican party. A waste of a great party is taking place. Makes me even happier to be a DITW Democrat.
Jackie
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notself....and I'd expect horrible and deplorable stories coming from youth social services. I think we don't hear about success stories because they don't usually show up there. I've known families who struggled till they day the parents died....but ( and there were several quite large families ) the kids have done ok and in fact thier kids are doing even better. One of the reasons and it is only one...is that there was such love and acceptance then and that often bred hope for better times to come. People then didn't need drugs....just some patience. Its a short answer, but I'm talking about people I know....and I am one of them.
Jackie
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If you put your children at risk, you lose them. Plain and simple. If your a heroin addicted mommy, you lose your kids. Put them up for adoption....there are plenty of people who are more than willing to adopt. If you are already on public assistance and you have another baby? You cant afford it...up for adoption. Why we feel the need to send these kids through the ringer trying to reunite with mommy who will likely (statistically) re-abuse drugs over and over and over again. It is not fair to those kids. They deserve a decent life even if that means its not with their biological mother. On the off chance that mommy does get clean for an extended period of time (over 1 year), she should have the opportunity to have a reasonable but not daily relationship with her children and their adoptive parents. Im sure that could be arranged. Adoption to a decent two parent family will give that kid a chance in life. It will stop the cycle of dependence.
To stop EBT fraud, you need to hold retailers feet to the fire. If you cant produce id that matches the name on the card, no goods. EBT should not be accepted at liquor stores (it is in MA),it should not be accepted at nail salons (it is in MA), etc. EBT is for FOOD and necessary items, not booze and cigarettes. We should stop giving EBT cards to dead people (happens in MA).
Check this out:
"The state’s embattled welfare chief was forced to step down yesterday in the wake of a shocking internal report that found that a staggering 47,000 families receiving taxpayer-funded benefits are unaccounted for — and nearly $30 million in food stamp money went to recipients who were not eligible.
The shocking report, released to the Herald last night, found that the Department of Transitional Assistance has lost track of 47,087 households on welfare — or one out of 10 of the total 478,000 who received DTA mailings.
The welfare department also admitted that it overpaid federal food stamp recipients by a whopping $27.8 million since 2010."
Thats a lot of $$ for a small state. That money could be used to fund a lot of adoptions.
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And, no public assistance to non-citizens. If your not a citizen you deserve nothing! Obama's own aunt came to Boston on a vacation visa, refused to leave, received public housing, food stamps, etc. She has since refused to leave and said that it was "America's duty to take care of her". Really? As the daughter of immigrants who did it the right way, thats BS. No issuance of licsenses to illegals.
The drunk driving Hatian mentioned in a previous post...check this out from a Boston Heral article (she threatened the cops with a voodoo spell):
"I don’t know if Haiti’s “voodoo” island magic is real, but I do know that America’s new culture of dependency has worked its magic on Vivencia Bellegarde, aka the “EBT Voodoo Queen.” Every sentence from her lips is an incantation straight from the “Culture of Dependency” spell book.
Forget the three EBT cards and the racial slurs and voodoo curses for a moment and think about how amazing this is: A woman from a different country, with a different language spends just a few years in the United States — and she already speaks fluent “entitlement” like a native.
That doesn’t happen by accident…
So of course Bellegarde has three EBT cards! Why not get five, 10, 100? If the government keeps throwing money at you — why not?
With that in mind, is it any wonder she thinks of people who work for a living as “dumb [expletives]?”
She’s got a point. Why work for your food — or even stuff cans of it in your purse, for that matter — when the EBT cards just keep arriving?
Since Obama took office, spending on food stamps has risen 100 percent — despite years of “recovery.” But when Republicans proposed cutting food stamps by 5 percent and adding a work requirement just for single, able-bodied adults, Democrats were outraged.
If the Americans paying for her EBT card are offended at the idea that she should work, why shouldn’t Bellegarde be, too?"
This is not uncommon. The significant majority of the "families" my social worker friend "visits" are not even legal. So, we have the citizens of MA paying social workers to take children from EBT card bartering drug addicted mommy's. We could save a TON of money on that alone.
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Here is the Republican pro-life position:
If you aren't prepared to have children, make sure you don't.
But we will not teach teenagers how to prevent pregnancy or STDs because they should not have sex outside of marriage.
If girls are raped, it is their own damn fault for inviting it. No abortions for them. Raise the kid or give it up, we don't care, but we aren't going to feed you and it. You should have kept your legs closed.
Don't expect help with contraception after you are grown. Planned Parenthood is Satan's house and we have defunded it. They kill millions of babies and women, too, with their evil birth control. And they give you STDs with faulty condoms. And we don't care if they perform well-woman exams or give millions of women primary health care services like breast cancer screening referrals. If women want those things, they should get jobs and pay for them. I don't want my tax dollars to go to help people who should help themselves.
But if you're raped, too bad. See above. Especially if you are drug addicted or a sex worker.
If you are married and your birth control fails, too bad. You should be procreating anyway, as is God's command. So what if you have too many children to feed and care for properly? Give them up for adoption - we won't help you feed them. Why are you having sex if you have too many children? Why should my tax dollars go to pay for the consequences of your sex life?
If you are married and can't afford contraception, you shouldn't be having sex. If you can't afford contraception, work more jobs. Why should my tax dollars go to help you have sex?
If people have sex outside of marriage, they deserve what they get. Give the baby up for adoption. Why should my tax dollars go to help you be immoral? If you are raped, you brought it on yourself.
If you are carrying a severely deformed baby, just have it already. Every baby deserves a chance at life, even if it is severely deformed, has zero chance of survival, or will kill the mother if it is carried to term. Because after all, every blasocyst, every xygote, everything that might become something resembling a baby is sacred.
Did I cover everything?
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RL: I've often wondered -- if there are so many infants available for adoption, why are so many North Americans going overseas to adopt? Russia has recently put its foot down, saying "We're going to keep our little Russian babies, thank you very much. They're off-limits to you".
Second question -- Why are so many Repub/TPers so darn concerned about everybody's sex lives? And why do they keep shouting "FREEDOM" when they so desperately want to legislatively CONTROL what goes on, or goes in. Seems pretty prurient to me
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Well notself, I tried to answer your questions about what I would do but the mods evidently didnt like what I had to say....they deleted them. So, I guess you will never know any of the solutions folks like me put forward. Sad, sad day at BCO.
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crazy - repubs dont care about anyone sex lives...until it infringes on their freedoms. So, a woman could sleep with the whole US Army....thats her business. But, if you cant take care of the consequences and therefore I have to, that is where the problem lies.
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