I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange
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Allison Lundergan Grimes and Mitch McConnell faced offf for the fist time in the 133rd. political forum at Fancy Farms in Kentucky. Allison is not playing games and that is clear.
“Senator McConnell is the most unpopular senator among Democrats but Republicans as well,” Lundergan said. “There’s a reason he’s so disliked. He sowed the seeds of dysfunction, and after 30 years Senator McConnell is in the center of it. As long as he remains in D.C., D.C. will stand for dysfunctional capitol… The GOP has come to stand for gridlock, obstruction and partisanship. If doctors told Senator McConnell he had a kidney stone, he’d refuse to pass it.”
Read more: http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/08/04/mitch-mcconnells-democratic-challenger-delivers-greatest-slam-during-first-face-off/#ixzz2b6UW0hoI say....go Allison.
Jackie
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I had a fairly #$%^ weekend due to my dustup with with BIL's GF on Friday night. Everytime I calmed down it would run through my head again and get me jacked up. So... here's a synopsis. First, you need to understand that everytime we have EVER gone to a restaurant with her, she has done something to get out of paying the bill. This has been a problem between her and BIL for years, but he does love her, and so continues to forgive. Anyway, hubby and I were planning on going out for dinner Friday night and BIL called and invited himself (and her) along. Hubby told him that we weren't interested due to her tendency to make a scene of one kind or another. BIL said, no, that wouldn't happen, as he'd had a long talk with her and she "promised". So hubby agreed - mistake....
OK. So, we all ate dinner. She ordered salad and a bowl of soup. She got salad and a bowl of soup. She ATE salad and a BOWL of soup. Hubby, by the way, ordered a cup of soup. There was an obvious difference between the size of her BOWL of soup and his cup of soup. She received a bill for a salad and a BOWL of soup. At which point she went off on the restaurant people that she didn't understand that there was a difference between a cup of soup and a bowl of soup and that they didn't clarify that she was getting a bowl of soup and ..... well you get the idea.
I lost it. I told her that she ordered a bowl of soup. She ate a bowl of soup. And she should PAY for a bowl of soup. To do anything different was simply stealing. (It kinda went downhill from there...) We all left. I apologized to BIL for embarassing him. He was nice about it, said I had nothing to apologize for. Etc...
So, then the next day she calls and wants to talk to me. With some trepidation I take the call - THEN she accuses me of being prejudiced because (and get this....) she's on social security. I started to laugh and said I had nothing against social security and plan on being on it myself in a couple more years. I told her that I hoped she was OK and pretty much hung up.
I'm still smoking, though....
BTW, Alexandria - I'm with you about the barefoot thing. I went barefoot as much as I could almost my entire life until my bout with plantar fascitis. I have found that I'm slowing going barefoot more, again, too. It's much healthier for your feet (and probably, like you say, your knees and other joints, too.)
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oooohhh.....look at those wonderful white doves.....heavenly....peaceful....
E - I almost sneezed looking at your gorgeous cat! What a wonderful perch - you are such a good cat momma....
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Have I mentioned lately that I love The Atlantic?
Here is a fun article debunking the RWNJ myth that the so-called mainstream media has ignored Benghazi. Here is the link - it is too long to post. However, I will post the very fun conclusion below:
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What Should Conservatives Take From All This? Four lessons:
- Effective media criticism must be specific and accurate. As noted, I have no doubt that there are any number of problems with "MSM" coverage of Benghazi. But a refusal to take the story seriously isn't one of them. The notion that the story has been ignored is fantastical and discrediting. The notion that the entire "MSM" is engaged in a cover-up is idiotic. And when your overall media narrative is wrong, your media criticism is going to suffer. Insofar as people like me tuned out the story, it is largely because so much of the conservative commentary was implausible, right from the first time that Mitt Romney accused his opponent of sympathizing with the terrorists.
- For all its faults, "the MSM" has orders of magnitude more reporting resources and reportorial talent than the conservative media, even acknowledging the many talented journalists at conservative outlets, who are simply outnumbered. Little surprise that "the MSM" has contributed far more to our understanding of Benghazi than conservative outlets, especially the ones that only do commentary -- which isn't to say there haven't been conservative contributions.
- Generally respectable outlets and reporters in "the MSM" and the conservative media have made mistakes on the Benghazi story. Various conservative pundits have butchered it embarrassingly.**
- Don't ever rely on Rush Limbaugh as a reliable source, or recommend him to others as such, if you want to be taken seriously. Every week, he broadcasts misinformation, and anyone who listens critically to his show can flag any number of obvious examples without much effort. Mistaking it for anything other than a partisan's guilty pleasure is bound to result in folly, and guarantees that he will continue to be an albatross around the neck of movement conservatism.
In closing, note that nothing in this item is inconsistent with the claim that "the mainstream media missed aspect X of Benghazi." I am sure it did. It probably missed Y and Z too. It is imperfect!
__ *Note to PJ Gladnick of Newsbusters: My claim that Rush Limbaugh is a race-baiter is very well-documented.
**I haven't consumed the performance of liberal pundits enough to comment on it and render no judgement on that question.--------------------------------------------------------------end clip-----------------------------------------Friedersdorf gives many examples of mainstream coverage of Benghazi. And for the record, I disagree with Friedersdorf on many, many things. He is not a supporter of President Obama, he avowedly didn't vote for him, and he recently wrote an article about Benghazi that I think is incredibly nutty and conspiracy-theorist. But I read his stuff anyway because he is logical and well-thought-out and can make an argument without foaming at the mouth or saying that the President was born in Kenya, is a Muslim terrorist or an alien, and hates 'Murica because he is a communistsocialistfascistliberalracebaitingnaziforeignbornacornloving thug. Friedersdorf has honest disagreements with the President and his policies and I can respect that. I disagree, but I respect his intellect.Happy Monday, all.L -
That would be the last time i ever went anywhere if GF was coming. So sorry you have to deal with whackadoodle.
GF is a bully. BIL is unwilling to deal with it. Time to draw a line in the sand and refuse her company. Someone should tell BIL those are the terms. I would suggest DH. -
GG, wow! There seems to be "one" in every family!
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Around the house I wear a pair of moccasins made by a woman at a fly in community up north. The soles are the same deerskin as the rest of the moccasin and the lining is lamb's wool or something like that. There is no pretence of support anywhere in them. They are just like walking barefoot except my feet stay clean and warm. Since I only wear them in the house, the floors are OK too. If I wanted to walk barefoot style all the time, I'd have another pair for outside to keep dirt and cutting things off my feet. They worked for generations of Native Canadians.
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Oh, while I was posting GG's post popped up and I didn't see it. GG, I agree with Chick. I wouldn't go out with her again either. Sounds like both you and DH have been very clear to BIL about his GF's issues and your discomfort about being subjected to them. Enjoy BIL's company without her or have your DH see BIL some other way. Ugh. (Many years ago when I was overseas, there was a couple rather like that although they didn't really make scenes. They would invite people out to dinner and then expect everyone to pay -- they did the inviting but they wanted people to pay. Once they invited everyone to a nice restaurant for the husband's dinner and when the bill came expected everyone else to divide it and pay for his and his wife's dinner! That didn't happen - people were wise to them by then - but we never went out with them again!)
L
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Thanks - hubby and BIL have come to an agreement that we'll never again be anywhere with her where money is involved. Although, that agreement has happened before, and I'm somewhat sure that somewhere along the line BIL will conveniently "forget" and bring her. I've decided that when that happens I'm going to say something up front - like when she orders a salad and a bowl of soup, I will say, "now you do understand xxxxx, that this is a bowl of soup you have ordered, which costs $x.xx. Right?" Because I'm just not willing to feel like I'm any way entangled in her con games.
But there are some things I can't do anything about. One time she ordered Edamame - ate all of it, and then afterwards complained that there were worms in it. I mean really.....
Oh yeah - and one time she came to a dinner at our house. I'd probably put out $200 for everything. There were six of us. At the end of dinner she gave me a check for $1.78 for her share... I wasn't too sure which offended me more, the idea that she was going to pay for anything at all or the fact that she ate easily a third of a prime rib roast plus everything else involved with the dinner, and then thought that $1.78 was a fair amount to pay for it...
(I tore up the check).pah - I've gotta quit obsessing. She is NOT good for my bp!!
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Gumby, why individual bills? Why doesn't your BIL just pay for her if he brings her along, nd then they can sort it between themselves later.
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GG -- She actually WROTE A CHEQUE for $1.78? Unbelievable! Both that she wrote it, and that she considered her share ONLY to be $1.78. Good grief!
Jackie: A few years back, we were honoured on this thread by the presence of a dear friend, Alpal. She was a proud Kentuckian and this nasty disease claimed her far too soon. All this is to say that, if there is a heaven, Alpal would be there, and she would definitely be cheering on her namesake Allison Lundergan Grimes! Refusing to pass a kidney stone -- hahahahaha!!!!
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Momine - I THINK the reason for individual checks is that they (BIL and GF) have fought so often over this very subject that he won't let her look at his check (which she will do) as then he gets even more embarassed. I have thought of insisting on a single check and then just telling her what she owed - but figured that would lead to an even bigger fight (her accusing me or hubby of cheating her, etc.) It's best just to avoid her presence in a restaurant, I believe (if possible).
C4C - YES. Can you believe it? I mean really. It was prime rib (not choice, actually prime), plus all the fixings, plus dessert. $1.78. The mind boggles.
Huge cheers for Allison Lundergan Grimes. That was probably the funniest line I've ever heard in an election battle!!
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Maybe you should have cashed the cheque with 'on deposit' written on it and sent her a bill for the remaining amount. (:
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hahahahaha - I knew you ladies would help me feel better!!!
Hubby tries - but since I know that he has to deal with any family fallout from my temper loss I just end up feeling guilty. 
Of course, I'm not the only one in the family fed up to the teeth with her - I'm just the only one who ever called her out over it. (Calling things out just isn't done in his family - it's always let's just pretend everything is hunky dory - no matter how weird it gets.) Thanks!!! -
I had an uncle who would just 'drop in' and suggest going out for dinner. Of course he always excused himself before the check came. My mother would be furious but my dad would just pay.
One evening my uncle did not leave and the check arrived. He leaned over to take it and my dad said he 'gob struck'. He just couldn't believe it. However, after carefully going over all the items and the math, he said, "it looks okay to me" and handed it back to my dad to pay. He used to almost cry he would laugh so hard when he told the story.
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hahahahaha - There truly is one in every family isn't there!!! I'm sure the healthiest thing to do is what your Dad did - laugh til you cry. Hubby has already recited the story to other BIL, and was laughing the whole time - I on the other hand still have my bp through the roof.... I'll try laughing - it'll be better for me.
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GG well, that is quite an incredible story and easy to see why you were set on heavy-duty boil. I guess I'd be her worst enemy by now. In my younger years I thought it impolite to say too much and now that I'm not only the age I am ( 68 ) next month, and had cancer to boot I tend to say almost verbatim what is on my mind. I envision -- lady, there are normal people and genuine misfits. You fall quite deeply in the latter category. You are an obnoxious crashing bore. Maybe for BIL I'd tone it down a tad.....but then again, maybe not.
Often I do hold my tongue though --- practicing patience is good karma, but if it too foolish and half the world or more agrees.....I don't think karma minds when you 'have your say' and save yourself an ulcer.
Some of the drops in remind me of some odd family members......wallet full of ones with a prominent $100.00 bill on the outside -- no one was fooled that much. Our whole family was always poor as church mice.
Jackie
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It is with great sadness to report that 1Athena1 has passed away. Her sister contacted breastcancer.org today because her friends on the discussion boards were so important to her, and she wanted to make sure they knew.
A memorial for her will be held tomorrow at 2 PM at
St Pauls Church 2430 K Street NW Washington DC 20037
The family has requested that donations in her name 1Athena1 (Pamela Mercer) be made to breastcancer.org. If you wish to extend condolences to the family, you can send us a PM and we can send you further contact information.
She may no longer roar, but she will remain in so many hearts.
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We were watching for you Athena. Giving a very sad roar.
RIP lion lady.
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I am devastated. Much love to you, Athena, as you fly free. No more pain, no more suffering, no more fear. Only peace and love, my beautiful friend.
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OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Heartbreak. This miserable bitch of a disease. God I hate it.
Roar with the angels Athena! -
The pride is shedding a tear and a collective roar of pain for dear Athena. She gave us so much.
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I'm stunned, sad, angry, damn this disease.
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Just devastating! Seems like yesterday that I was admiring her fashion shows.
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I'm crying right now. RIP Athena
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I am completely devastated. I've been coming here every day, Athena's home, hoping to see a post. She was an extraordinary person, so intelligent, such an advocate for so many, with such a huge heart... this is just a tremendous loss.
To all of the wonderful women here with whom she shared so much, I send you all my love. I feel like I've lost a kindred spirit... rest in peace, sweet Pamela.
Rose.
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I will never look at a fashion collection or a piece of art without remembering Athena and her wonderful commentary. Rest well proud lioness.
We were watching for you Athena. Giving a very sad roar.
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