Access to the Picture Forum - READ 1st POST

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  • Stratford
    Stratford Member Posts: 1,142
    edited July 2013

    Hello Jtrosesav, and welcome to Breastcancer.org.

    Please carefully read the first post in this thread, from nowheregirl. She explains there what is needed to be given access to the private picture forum, and who to contact by PM.

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2013

    Hello Nowhere girl and Lilah,

    I am newly diagnosed for the 2nd time.  Details about whther tis mets etc coming soon.  In the mean time, its going to be a bilateral mx.  Previously I had a lumpectomy that was essentially invisible.  I would apprecaite counsel on reconstruction from anyone; I had a ps tell me that he wouldn't recommend it for my size and I am shocked and reeling and will be getting another consult.  In any case I would appreciate beng able to see photos and also get other counsel especially about being large breasted.  

    Thank you.

    V

  • bdavis
    bdavis Member Posts: 6,201
    edited July 2013

    V... I have never heard that about a large breasted woman.. Please look into DIEP flap, and you can see photos right away at www.breastcenter.com

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2013
  • nowheregirl
    nowheregirl Member Posts: 894
    edited July 2013

      

    Please read the first post. You will NOT be given access by posting a request in this thread. Send me or Lilah a private message for access if you are 100% sure that you have been here for long enough and posted enough for us to see who you really are.

  • planetbananas
    planetbananas Member Posts: 206
    edited July 2013

    HVV,

    I don't know what size you are, but I was a DD when diagnosed and currently have 750cc implants. I would get a 2nd opinion. Best wishes to you.

  • misswim
    misswim Member Posts: 931
    edited July 2013

    Thank you for all of this great info. I had a bmx with immediate placement of implants in 4/11. I have suffered with many issues such as capsular contraction and frozen shoulder. I am now looking at Diep and SGap. Any suggestions leaning toward either? Thanks so much.

  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited July 2013

    Yes ladies please just PM me or Nowheregirl! 

    Also HVV -- check out Breast Implant Sizing 101 (a thread here on BCO).  I agree with the others that you should seek another opinion.  Some women who are large and need large implants DO go with saline (which come in larger sizes than silicone)... but not knowing anything about your size I can only suggest getting more info and another opinion.  The Sizing thread is run by someone very knowledgeable who can help guide you if you can share info with her (read the header of that thread and contact Whippetmom).

  • Mamalyon
    Mamalyon Member Posts: 19
    edited July 2013

    Admin types- I am totally in support of your efforts to protect the privacy of those posting pictures. However, I am pretty sure you can't tell who I am from the short time I've been visiting this site. Of course, I would've come sooner had I known I was about to be diagnosed. (Sorry was that snippy). I haven't been my best lately. Still I must make a decision between reconstruction (1 step, immediate implants -800?, with alloderm) or no reconstruction. Decision by Monday 7-22, surgery on 7-31.

    Today, at the moment, leaning towards non-recon. But concerned I will hide in my room forever.

    I thought pictures might help but I am afraid all I am seeing online are the worst cases and the best cases. Women who started with a good BMI to begin with, and look fabulous with recon or without. Also, when something went terribly wrong. But where are the other women. Surely, I am not the first overweight woman to face this disease.

    Maybe, they aren't as bold about picture taking but there must be a sight somewhere that I can look at to help me with this decision.

    Respecting your privacy rules, but can you recommend someplace else or some clue about how to make this decision. Time is limited. Feeling panicky, frantic and terrified.

    And even guilty, my prognosis with mastectomy is excellent, so I feel guilty for stressing over this decision.

    Please offer any suggestions or guidance,

    Thanks, sorry for the snippieness,

    Karen

  • tammi
    tammi Member Posts: 13
    edited July 2013

    I would love to see pictures and share mine. I don't post a lot but read so many posts. I just had my exchange earlier today.

  • bdavis
    bdavis Member Posts: 6,201
    edited July 2013

    Misswim. I had both diep and gap flaps. I'd be happy to answer any questions. Biggest difference is gap flap has a fairly easy recovery. Diep is more involved but you do get a tummy tuck as a perk.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2013

    Karen/Mamalyon,   I like you am plus size and have noticed the commonality re: BMI.  

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited July 2013

    Mamalyon, here are some other sites that have pictures.  You don't have the opportunity to ask questions (as you would on the Picture Forum referenced here) but some of these sites do offer up a range of examples of what reconstruction is like. Since most of the pics are provided by plastic surgeons, you don't get to see the problems cases but there certainly are examples of women who did not start out with perfect BMIs.

    http://www.smartplasticsurgery.com/before-and-after-photos/mastectomy/

    http://www.realself.com/Breast-reconstruction/before-and-after-photos#

    To get more specific information related to your concerns and considerations, I'd suggest that you start a new thread in the Reconstruction Forum (here on BC.org) with your questions, and I'm sure that you will get a lot of input and advice.

    Hope that helps.

  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited July 2013

    I know it can be frustrating when you are facing decisions regarding recon. Please understand that the picture forum is not part of bco and is private. Those who maintain it and participate/contribute in it do so voluntarily. I hope those dealing with this can understand the reason why restrictions to the picture forum exist (and I'm sure the screening is not perfect). There is a huge amount of info on all recon options on bco and, at some point, you may be given access to the picture forum.

  • planetbananas
    planetbananas Member Posts: 206
    edited July 2013

    My blog is public and has a separate page that has reconstruction photos (so you don't have to read the blog if you don't want to). There are pictures from the mastectomy, fills and implants. I'm not sure what the rules are re: links, but it is in my profile. I wish I had known about the pic forum earlier, it would have helped me a great deal. One of the reasons I posted on my blog is because when I was diagnosed I found a lot of mastectomy pics but none of the process so I thought I would put it out there, maybe it would help.

  • Mamalyon
    Mamalyon Member Posts: 19
    edited July 2013

    Thank you all for all of the help. I think these pictures y'all have sent me to do look like real women. I sort of have a crazy question...but in some photos I've seen where there is a only one breast being reconstructed, the before picture shows a lot of what appears to be scar tissue. I am not sure if that's what that is or perhaps that is "skin sparing" extra skin for the new breast? I am wondering if a person doesn't go recon, is it possible to wind up with all of that scar tissue? Or does the dr make it smooth? Is that a stupid question?

    K

  • planetbananas
    planetbananas Member Posts: 206
    edited July 2013

    All 3 of my aunts had double mastectomies and none of them chose reconstruction. They were kind enough to show me the results and all had smooth chests with thin scars. I think there are no stupid questions, this process is frightening.

  • TinaT
    TinaT Member Posts: 2,300
    edited July 2013

    Mamalyon - It's my understanding that if a woman is certain she does not want reconstruction or if for some reason she is not a candidate for reconstruction the breast surgeon can make the skin snug across the chest at the time of the mastectomy.  If a woman wants or is undecided about reconstruction the breast surgeon leaves a skin "envelope" to allow for reconstruction.  That is what the terms skin sparing and skin sparing/nipple sparing refer to.  The breast tissue is removed, but the breast skin (and sometimes nipple) is spared.  Sometimes reconstruction is started immediately at the time of mastectomy, but sometimes chemo and/or radiation can affect the order of things.

    Additional areas of lobular neoplasia and multiple ADH throughout left breast found at mastectomy. Oncotype DX = 18 (Opted out of chemo)
    Dx 12/8/2010, ILC, <1cm, Stage Ib, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-Dx 12/18/2010, DCIS, <1cm, Stage 0, Grade 1, 0/1 nodes, ER+/PR+Surgery 02/16/2011 Mastectomy (Both); Lymph Node Removal (Left); Reconstruction: Tissue expander placement (Both)Hormonal Therapy 04/15/2011 ArimidexSurgery 08/24/2011 Reconstruction: Breast implants (permanent) (Both)Surgery 04/08/2013 Reconstruction: Breast implants (permanent) (Both)

  • nowheregirl
    nowheregirl Member Posts: 894
    edited July 2013

    Mamalyon, check your PM.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2013

    Mamalyon, let me speak for myself. I'm probably one of those that needs to post as my "story" is different than most (see signature line below for more details) and I'm probably considered a bit overweight now. 1 mx in 1996, 1 last year with bilateral recon. For me, part is a privacy issue: while I know that the ladies who run the picture forum,  screen it as best as can (thanks by the way to Lilah and Nowheregirl for ALL your efforts to run, monitor and screen the picture forum!), I'm not absolutely positive I won't find my pictures available to the world. Unfortunately, there's always some sicko who can figure out how to beat the system. So I appreciate the ladies screening as best they can. 

    While my experiences have been pretty good, the one biggest hurdle I'm finding is that I really stopped looking at myself (my mx's) long ago. It pains me at times to see ME as others see me. As a matter of fact, I have just begun posting my story (on the picture forum) and haven't gotten the nerve to post the pictures of the different stages of reconstruction. Why? For me, it's the final acknowledgement that everything's going to be ok and I'm not there yet. I still have stitches and my foobs (fake boobs) are far from perfect. Even after healing, I'll always have scars. So, in my mind, if I can't stand to see the pictures I'm not ready for others to. It feels like to ME all the times I went to various medical "professionals" and they all wanted a peek and a feel like I'm some kind of freak. (Just had this again recently when I went for a PT appt when I requested a woman and got the male owner of the company who wanted a peek and a feel and didn't even provide me with a gown! Yes, it was a private room, and yes, he just wanted me to lift my top!) Oh, and by the way, there was a student present so I thought I was the show. And, yes, I reported him to all that I could.  

    The one thing I know for sure is that the ladies on BCO are super compassionate and not in it for the "gawk" factor, come for knowledge (like you), support, understanding (as only those of going/have gone thru breast cancer can understand), and above all HOPE. 

    So, I for one, am grateful there is a screening process. Maybe when you're here long enough you'll understand from the other side of the mx/recon point of view. 

  • bdavis
    bdavis Member Posts: 6,201
    edited July 2013

    I agree... I am glad there is a screening process or I may not have felt comfortable posting pics. But I have posted many pictures and have done so knowing that nowheregirl and lilah will protect me as best they can.

  • Luvbeamer
    Luvbeamer Member Posts: 1
    edited July 2013

    How do I get access to the picture forum? I am trying to research SGAP.



  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited July 2013

    Luvbeamer,

    Please read the first post in this thread for info .

  • AmyQ
    AmyQ Member Posts: 2,182
    edited July 2013

    2nd_time-around:

    Your last post hit a nerve with me and I teared up. I look in the mirror and cannot believe this is what I have become. Those horizontal scars and the misshaped-missized TE's make me feel like a freak and as much as I want to put this whole experience behind me, my body will never let me forget. I do hope it gets easier as it's been less than 6 months, but deep down I think I will forever feel damaged. 

  • Mamalyon
    Mamalyon Member Posts: 19
    edited July 2013

    Mama Lyon here, I want y'all to know I was NOT being sarcastic when I said I get the privacy thing. I really do get it, I understand.

    And I have looked at a lot of pictures lately, and read a lot of stories, even some with medical histories closer to mine (this is my third cancer). I think in making this recon/non recon decision, I am not sure any of it matters. I read that even with recon you look in the mirror and feel like a freak, and without I think one might feel the same as well. I am so on the fence about this that I am sure regardless I will regret the decision I make.

    I think I have to focus on the good news, I have an excellent prognosis.

    I have no idea how to come up with an answer.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2013

    Thanks AmyQ, for reflecting what I posted!



    As I continue to say, bc is a roller coaster with its up and downs and getting whipped around. I know that it took me years before I didn't think of bc daily, then very infrequently. Guess I bottomed out the other day as I had had enough of pain and pain meds (which i know cause me to feel depressed), after what I thought was a fairly easy revision (saw PS today and she validated that I had severe pain because it wasn't so little, so easy or quick-recovering. Tired of "friends" who don't have a clue about what we are going thru tell me they were tired that I talk about pain and pain meds so much, but, duh, that's my life right now!). Anyway, today with stitches out and more freedom of movement (and I can sit in a chair without wincing, tomorrow's high-light is a shower and a real hair washing) I actually started feeling like a better me, even a bit better than before bc DX. Another real friend (going thru knee surgery recovery who has friends going thru bc) had only encouraging words, boosted my ego by saying she'll go with me bra shopping for really SEXY bras (which I haven't seen in 20 years) and what an inspiration I am. Forgot I have good points too, like being selected as a national bc mentor and just applied today for local bc center mentor. So, looking at myself in the mirror tonight, I have 2 foobs which beats 1 real and 1 absent any day. Just need time to finish my post to the picture forum.

  • TinaT
    TinaT Member Posts: 2,300
    edited July 2013

    Mamalyon - Please try to remember that many women who post here are looking for answers and/or have had problems along the way.  There are many more women out there who have had good outcomes and then drift away from discussion boards so you're not hearing from them.

    I acknowledge that I'm extremely fortunate to have been diagnosed early, to have been a good candidate for nipple-sparing surgery, and that I lucked out with an amazing medical team.  We are all different and have different stories so I can only relate my own experience.  I do not feel like a freak.  I do not refer to my breasts as foobs.  When I look at myself I see "me" which is a great gift from my surgeons.

    I just felt compelled to write when I read in your post that you already know you are going to be disappointed no matter what you decide to do about reconstruction.  Just wanted you to know that there are plenty of us out here who obviously aren't happy about being dealt the BC hand, but who have had successful reconstructions.  Also, there are lots of women who choose no reconstruction and are equally as happy with their decision.

    All the best.....whatever you decide!  

  • Lilah
    Lilah Member Posts: 4,898
    edited July 2013

    Having BC and losing a breast or two breasts is a loss no matter what.  But many women do have good results so I agree with Tina that you should not EXPECT disappointment in your outcome.  Feel and experience the loss but expect to get a good result.  We all deserve a good result.

    Please read the first post in this thread, ladies.

  • bdavis
    bdavis Member Posts: 6,201
    edited July 2013

    Mamalyon... I agree with the above. My reconstructive results are pretty fantastic... the scars are fading and the feel and shape of my breasts are almost exactly like the originals... so please don't assume the worst. I certainly do not look in the mirror and think I'm a freak. I can barely see the scars, and the scars I do have are all under my bikini. To add I didn't have a straight path here. I had recon and then had a complication, but thankfully, my surgeon was wonderful and fixed me right up. I have a left recon nipple and a spared right nipple, and a little biy of abdominal skin on the right where I had skin necrosis. One more revision for me, and then tattoos. And I will be done forever.

  • Daninayd
    Daninayd Member Posts: 58
    edited July 2013

    I am new to the forum and I understand the rules that I need to share more in order to get access to the picture forum. Everything happened to me so fast that it is hard to build more prominent profile. I was curious to see if anyone had nipple sharing grafts. I cannot find pics anywhere on internet and I am not sure what the results look like. My surgery will be in two months and I would like to emotionally prepare. If I join the forum after my surgery it won't matter.Smile

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