Starting Chemo June 2013!?!?!

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  • raindeer1217
    raindeer1217 Member Posts: 90
    edited June 2013

    Good morning! Today is going to be a better day indeed. Woke and ate a blueberry pancake, yummy. The roller coaster tummy has stabilized. Tired wore'd out aches from the N injection but all side effects are doable.



    Ocean, Val, Netter and Jogal? How are you all holding? We can do this!!



    Ingrid thank you for posting words or worry and advice, you all have been so helpful.



    Hope to hear from the other Junebugs worried about them and sending good vibes.



    Rain

  • Alibeths
    Alibeths Member Posts: 656
    edited June 2013

    Yay!!! Good to hear your better. Enjoy!!!!!!

  • annika12
    annika12 Member Posts: 433
    edited June 2013

    Port going in tomorrow!! Getting real in a way surreal way :/ .

  • dlm425
    dlm425 Member Posts: 209
    edited June 2013

    Oh Rain sooooo happy to see you posting I was so worried about you... Stay strong my turn on Thursday

    Dx 3/22/2013, IDC, 2cm, Stage IIa, Grade 3, 1/15 nodes, ER+/PR+, HER2-Hormonal Therapy TamoxifenHormonal Therapy TamoxifenSurgery 04/26/2013 Mastectomy (Both); Lymph Node Removal: Axillary Lymph Node Dissection (Both); Reconstruction: Tissue expander placement (Left)Chemotherapy 06/13/2013 Adriamycin, Cytoxan, Taxol div>
  • IngridJ
    IngridJ Member Posts: 121
    edited June 2013
  • dlm425
    dlm425 Member Posts: 209
    edited June 2013

    Ingrid How are you feeling?

  • IngridJ
    IngridJ Member Posts: 121
    edited June 2013

    Hi Dlm,

    Feeling fine... It was day two that was the worst for me.. Since, a bit blah but progressively better each day. Now day 7.. It really hasn't been bad at all.. Hoping for same for you on thurs. I looked up islip where you live, is it nice there? I was in NY city a couple of years ago. Never travelled around NY state though...

  • Miasara
    Miasara Member Posts: 17
    edited June 2013

    Rain, glad you are feeling better.

    Its day 2 after infusion for me and I'm really tired. Had a little nausea last night before bed so I took a Zofran and it went away. Had the neulasta shot this morning and I think I'm starting to feel it tonight in my legs. I took a claritan earlier so hoping it wont be too bad. I'm starting to get concerned about constipation too. Really dont want to take a laxative but dont want to wait too long.

    Hope you all have a good night.

    Mia

  • IngridJ
    IngridJ Member Posts: 121
    edited June 2013

    Hi Mia,

    Day two was worst for me. Take it easy. x Try a few prunes maybe, and get onto the c issue sooner rather than later.. I also used sennocot (just a couple) and a herbal laxative.. That was all that was needed. I was scared too....

    Best to try to avert the experience rather than wait for it....

    Best wishes

    Ingrid x

  • dlm425
    dlm425 Member Posts: 209
    edited June 2013

    Where is ocean; Netter and val hope to see you post soon Good night Jugs (just us girls). Three days left

  • dlm425
    dlm425 Member Posts: 209
    edited June 2013

    Where is ocean; Netter and val hope to see their posts soon.

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited June 2013

    Mia- Zofran has a tendency to cause constipation.  Try to eat some of the those Sunsweet Ones Prunes, drink apple juice/ prune juice and keep hydrated.  If you take any OTC meds for constipation, you need to make sure you drink enough fluids. 

  • OceanWarrior
    OceanWarrior Member Posts: 96
    edited June 2013

    Hi Junebugs, Ocean surfacing to check in.  

    It's been a rough go but as of today I'm getting a handle on it and have actually been able to eat.  Day 2-3 I was basically non-functional due to nausea and vomitting keeping nothing down in spite of regular pill popping to try to control it.  Also had to go in a 30 min car ride to get 1st Nupegeon shot.  Not a good Saturday.  But like I said, today is better and I have not been sick once.  

    The sad part is - my soulution was right in front of me the entire time.  Was taking direction from the Cancer Clinic and the Oncology Nurses and trying their advise of getting Gravol for breakthrough.  Finally, yesterday afternoon I called the on call Onc at the main hospital.  He told me for goodness sake go back to taking the Ondansetron for at least another 24-36 hrs.  I've been on top of the nausea ever since and am feeling more confident for next cycle too now that we know how sensitive my system is to the nausea.  I know, I know you ladies were saying "Call the Oncologist".  Would have saved some suffering.  A little ticked off that the hand out sheet they gave me instructed otherwise.  Just highlights the value of the 'been there done that' experience we can find and share here.  

    I'm still exhausted and sleeping lots but feeling super happy that the worst seems to be over.  Hope it lasts when I stop taking the Ondansetron (last dose earlier this evening)

    Grateful for these boards and thankful beyond words for my hubby helping me through all this.  Hoping tomorrow I'll have energy to get back to my Facebook games, lol.

  • fab1
    fab1 Member Posts: 70
    edited June 2013

    Hi girls

    I'm due to start chemo next week, six sessions of fmc-t. I am trying to get together all the things I will need , can anyone help compile a list of things I should have help with the side effects?

  • raindeer1217
    raindeer1217 Member Posts: 90
    edited June 2013

    Wonderful to hear from you Ocean. Was worried. Sounds like you had a go of it.



    My days after were similar to yours. Wicked tired got all kinds of bone aches and itchy eyes.



    Heading into work, not looking forward to it.



    Anyone else working full time? I manage a insurance agency, 12 employees. Long hours stressful.

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited June 2013

    fab1= Here is the link for a list that is on this Chemothread Discussion Forum: http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/69/topic/706846?page=41#idx_1204.  It is very helpful and good place to start.

    The other place to start is called Topic: Important Chemotherapy Threads for Newbies:

    http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/69/topic/785189?page=1#idx_1.  This will show you that first link listed here plus others that can also help.

    Ocean & Rain- So glad that both of you are feeling better.  The eating, hydrating and resting will help you continue to feel better.  I never had any nausea when I had chemo which may be because I took my meds on schedule, stayed hydrated and ate small meals 5-6 times a day.  As for the drugs I took, I took Decadron (Dexamethasone) for 3 days twice a day beginning the day before my chemo round.  The day after my chemo round I took Zofran (Ondansetron) for three days.  I had Phenergan as a back up anti nausea drug on hand in the event nausea occurred even after the two other drugs.  I never had to use Phenergan.  The Decadron can cause one to stay awake at night which I took Benedryl at night to help counteract that insomnia effect.  The Zofran can cause constipation which can be warded off with eating prunes, drinking apple juice/prune juice, eating high fiber.  I ate for breakfast a bowl of oatmeal with bananas, blue berries, wheat bran sprinkled on top and milk which also helped.

    TO EVERYONE:  Wishing everyone  sitting in the Big Girl Chair this week an easy time and minimal side effects for all.

  • Alibeths
    Alibeths Member Posts: 656
    edited June 2013

    dlm425---WE start the same day!  I am getting my port tomorrow--I think I am moore nervous about that!!!!!!!!!!  GOOD LUCK TO YOU

  • VAL1966
    VAL1966 Member Posts: 37
    edited June 2013

    Hi all!! Feel like I'm surfacing from the dead!! Wow!! That was tough!! Day 2 and 3 well I kind of slept right through those and when I was awake.. Very nauseated!! Nothing was helping! I'm going to call my oncology nurse and see if if there is something different I can take for next round! This morning, I kind of feel normal again! Had some cereal when I got up and stomach feels fine. So glad to hear everyone has recovered! And Rain.. I can't even imagine going I to work right now!! I think the worse seems to be over for now and I'm so grateful!!

  • Jen987
    Jen987 Member Posts: 145
    edited June 2013

    Hello ladies. I am 1 week post my last chemo infusion and feeling somewhat normal. I wanted to let you know you'll make it through. As far as working, I had to as I have my own residential cleaning business. If I don't work I don't get paid. And to be honest with you getting out of the house and being productive was good for me. It kept me from thinking about how crappy I felt. Keeping normalcy helped. Don't get me wrong there were a few days where I probably should have stayed home but I pushed on through and just collapsed when I got home. I stayed ahead of my nausea and made sure to drink plenty of fluids and kept moving. Don't get discouraged and remember it's not forever. Stay strong sister warriors.

  • dlm425
    dlm425 Member Posts: 209
    edited June 2013

    Alibeth good luck today with the port They told me I didn't need one. Supposedly I have good veins

  • dlm425
    dlm425 Member Posts: 209
    edited June 2013

    Until chemo starts than my viens will be in the crapper

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited June 2013

    Dim425,

    I was told I didn't need port, as I was "only" doing 4 x of Chemo.



    First round went well.

    Second round went for labs the day before and my "good chemo vein" in the crook of my arm was "shot". Chemo nurses confirmed it when they tried to use that vein for chemo. They were so mad, blaming it on the lab girl. I don't think it was "lab girls" fault.



    So they had to use a vein in the back of my hand (I won't let them touch the arm on the side that had lymph nodes removed as it increases risk of lymphedema.)

    The hand vein went smoothly, at the time...then it was black and blue,then a nice long pink line along it, which turned into a small "bug bite size" raised bump, still there but not raised anymore. I don't know what that will mean for my next two rounds. They said they don't do legs (I asked).



    Anyhow, when going for labs tell them to STAY AWAY from that really good vein! There was a "less noticeable" vein in the crook of my arm the lab nurse used, easily, after she couldn't access that nice big showy vein. Chemo nurse told me to tell lab girl to use the back of my hand for blood draw, I think I will stick to "tiny vein" in crook of arm for her as the chemo nurse wasn't interested In Small veins.



    Oh, chemo nurse also blamed "overuse" of the good vein...I don't know about that , surgery was in March, prior to that testing was done in Jan/ Feb over two days...used for one blood draw prior to first chemo, then for one chemo.....it's not like I am a junkie!



    Wishing you all the best.

    Pat

  • Alibeths
    Alibeths Member Posts: 656
    edited June 2013

    How many treatments u having??

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited June 2013

    Greetings All!

    I hopped over here from the May chemo group, thought I would share a list I had compiled for side effects. It is not "all inclusive". Check the other links,like Melrose has above too, research is your best friend.



    Please keepin mind this is not a complete list, and be sure to check with your doctor prior to ""self prescribing". These tips were picked up from reading posts on the BCO website.



    What to bring to the "chemo room"



    I've heard some people say to bring a light blanket or sweater as the chemo rooms can be cold. (Me personally, I am always warm, so I had no complaints, and my location offered warmed blankets!)



    Pack a snack, sandwich or other food as you might be there for a long time. Mine started at 10:00 and lasted to 2:30.



    Bring lots of water to drink or other liquids-purpose is to flush out those toxins. Also hydrate earlier in the morning prior to chemo as it makes finding those veins eaiser..



    Bring a book, laptop, DVD player, iPod or those types of things to keep busy. My stack of unread magazines at home could get me through 20 chemo sessions!



    I brought my own cooler bag, filled it with frozen veggies and baggies of ice cubes to ice my fingers and toes to ward off neuropathy. But, keep in mind that some recommend against doing that!



    See if your location has ice chips, or bring ice/icee. If you are getting taxotere you will want frozen stuff in your mouth to ward off mouth sores. My taxotere drip is about one hour, I sucked once and froze my toes and fingers for most of that time (when I wasn't running to the bathroom to relieve myself from all the liquid I drank in the am!)



    I think that was it on what to bring, checkbook for the co-pay? Lol



    As for home I had on hand:

    Prescribed steroids

    Claritan 24 hour -for day of Neulasta shot and 7 days following (ward off bone pain)

    Prilosec for heartburn (and I needed it on the day after chemo!)

    Nausea meds as was prescribed and filled prior to chemo (and I did need them)

    Stool softener-took one am and pm

    Miralax- took recommended dose in the am just for a few days til off nausea meds

    Biotene mouth rinse, used after every meal to rinse out mouth for first 3 or 4 days

    Biotene gum, used to remoisturize my mouth not used too often

    Baking soda- used with salt and water as a mouth rinse when felt strange

    Benadryl-did not need

    Acidophilus -did not need

    Eye moisture drops-did not need

    Water or other liquids...drink , drink, drink, flush out those toxins! I had one of those giant Poland spring waters next to my armchair when I got home and just kept refilling my glass of water....later the day 2 or 3 added some iced tea mix to my water or tried other things with flavor

    Baby wipes ultra sensitive (or personal wipes) to wipe with after toilet use...clean off those toxins, used for first 4-5 days

    Bottle to cleanse self (did not have, but read about) similar to like after giving birth, to squirt on yourself as you urinate to help rinse off those toxins as you go.

    Plastic utensils as things get a metalic taste.

    Thermometer- to check your temp,they will tell you what temp they consider high and to call them (listen!)

    Tissues (preferably lotion ones). For runny nose that is bound to happen

    Hand sanitizer...keep in car or handbag, use when out and about



    I put the meds I would use daily on the kitchen table in a bowl.

    The other "back up meds" were in a shoebox type container on my living room table.

    Was very convenient to have like that so I could put away for next time! (Or if had people in!)



    Also used a check off list to make sure I didn't forget to take am/pm meds.

    And my husband could see what I needed in the am by looking at the list (was too tired to get out of bed one morning, so mumbled for him to being me my meds and he knew exactly which ones.)



    To keep track of side effects from chemo check out this link

    www.cancer.org/acs/groups/cont...



    For a free headscarf check out this site

    www.goodwishesscarves.org/



    I think that is most everything.

    Wishing you all the best.

    Pat









  • sarajaneevans
    sarajaneevans Member Posts: 187
    edited June 2013

    Is BJ something you have to start before chemo- I don't want to do anything until I know what I need to do-my inside self tells me I am going to sail through this without issue- course I know that she can fill my head full of lies at times too.. and while I need to be prepared, I also need to wait and see if that makes any sense.

    Some people lose their finger and toe nails???Surprised

    My port was installed last friday. I see the oncologist on the 14th, guess I'll get a treatment plan at that time-

    I am 68 and my eyebrows are just coming in with the help of a product I get from the gal who tints my eyebrows- boy I sure hate to think of losing them- and starting all over..BOO....

  • sarajaneevans
    sarajaneevans Member Posts: 187
    edited June 2013

    @Patty- What is 4X of Chemo, please?

    I copied your Chemo list for my what if folder- iif I have not thanked you before , let me thank you now- Thanks for this list

  • sarajaneevans
    sarajaneevans Member Posts: 187
    edited June 2013

    @annika, how was it? I was sorta fortunate b/c I had to have another lumpectomy so I was asleep when mine was installed. I have to say I don't much like it- I think it might be more psychological than anything- the just knowing that it is there..

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited June 2013

    4X means four rounds of chemo

  • sarajaneevans
    sarajaneevans Member Posts: 187
    edited June 2013

    @Melrose, Thank you (: What is the duration of one round? Is it dependent on other variables?

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited June 2013

    A round of chemo depends upon what regimen of chemo you are on.  I had Cytoxan/Taxotere with Herceptin adminstered every 3 weeks.  The Taxotere was infused over an hour.  The Cytoxan was infused over 30-45 minutes and the Herceptin was infused over an hour.  With that being said, the first round of infusions may be run over longer time periods since the infusion staff want to run the chemo a little slower to watch for immediate reactions.  I usually spent most of the day at the infusion center on the days I received my chemo.  I would be weighed and then had my blood pressure, temperature and pulse taken.  Then I would have my port flushed and blood drawn to make sure my blood counts were good enough to have the chemo round that day.   Then I would see my oncologist.  After that I would return to the infusion center to wait for my chemo and IV drugs to arrive from the hospital pharmacy.  The IV drugs usually arrived before the chemo did so, those were started first.  Then once the chemo drugs arrived and IV drugs had been administered for a long enough period so that they would work, it was then chemo time.  I iced my fingernails and toe nails during the Taxotere infusion for 1 1/2 hours--- 15 minutes before the Taxotere, 1 hour during the Taxotere infusion and for 15 minutes after the Taxotere infusion.  I usually would go to the restroom inbetween the switch over from the Taxotere to the Cytoxan.  Any time you need to go to the restroom during your infusion, just ask the nurse to unplug your IV pole from the electric socket and you can move the IV pole wherever you want to go.

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