April 2013 Chemo Group
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My 3rd cycle has been my "best" so far. The other 2 hit me immediately, whereas this one had a couple of days grace period before it hit. I had almost none of the side effects that I'd had before and only had to deal with the hairy tongue, fatigue and cracking in the corners of my mouth. The hit-by-a-truck phase has not lasted any longer than in cycle 2.
I'm cold capping and still have my hair. I shed about a handfull each day and that has been about the same in cycle 3 also.
One more dose of AC. I will be glad to switch to the T stage of this. I hope it will be easier.
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well had # 3 yesterday....came home and napped a bit...hung out with friends on the deck and laughed till 10pm....stayed home this am whey they went to the farmer's market....too many folks and too much walking...didn't wanna push it....went @ 11:30 and got my 'shot' @ the main hospital....since it was my first one, they had me wait 1 hour after to make sure everything was ok...I started the clarieden Thursday when they told me i'be be getting it....went to Garden Ridge looking for bar stools..no luck, grocery store for a nice pork loin we're gonna cook w/ a peach mango chutney....and just chillin on the couch while I get spoiled.....Room mate from college who flew in cooked last night, Chicken and dressing casserole, scratch made biscuits w/ gravy for breakfast, fresh veggies tonight for dinner AND she cleaned up the deck so i can enjoy it all summer.......
Hope everyone has a nice holiday weekend with little SE...
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New side effect? I had my 3rd AC on Thursday, and Neulasta yesterday. This morning I woke up with my skin sensitive to the touch. My face hurt almost like I had sinus inflammation, and the back of my neck hurt. As the day progressed the pain is almost like an all-over sunburn, slowly progressing down my body. I have no redness, no spots, no fever... just sensitive, painful skin and a medium headache.
Anyone else?
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6cats, could it be radiation recall? You might want to look up more info on it. It can happen in the area that was radiated or be more general.
http://lungcancer.about.com/od/radiationtherap1/f/Radiation-Recall.htm
"The symptoms of radiation recall are due to inflammation in a region that was previously treated with radiation. The most common type of reaction is radiation recall dermatitis, a skin rash involving redness, swelling, and/or blistering of the skin. The rash is often painful and can have the appearance of severe sunburn."
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I don't think so, the skin isn't pink. Just tender to the touch. I have radiation recall on my breast -- bad redness with blisters (OUCH!). I'm watching my temp and hoping it goes away soon.
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Pool?? This weekend our neighborhood pool opens and my kids want to go. Unfortunately, my MO said no pools this summer "unless it's in your own backyard." He said I could go to the neighborhood pool and not get in...my kids are too young to swim by themselves (almost 2 and 4) so this really isn't a good option either. Was anyone else told that pools are a no-no during chemo?
I'm not getting Neulasta (so far) so I don't know if that's part of his concern. Since I'm getting chemo every 3 weeks, I'm wondering if he'd allow me to go during the last week before the next cycle when my counts would be the highest.
What else have you been told to avoid this summer?
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I did ask my doc about this, he told me it should be ok but just to be careful about the sun. I have a hot tub at my home which is what triggered the question, he said that would be fine too.
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I wasn't warned about pools but I do remember reading something about avoiding lakes. Fortunately I will be done with chemo by mid-June so I figure I'll be fine to swim for most of the summer. I suppose you could put the kids in life vests and stay at the edge of the pool to watch them? Doesn't sound as fun though!
I was also told to avoid the sun, which I'm finding much harder. I don't think I was cautioned about any other summery things though.
Lynn, could your skin pain have anything to do with the steroids? I haven't had any issues this round or the last but I remember the very first round I felt like my face was sunburned after the steroids wore off (except it wasn't red & I hadn't been in the sun).
Pamela, I have to admit I was disappointed, I saw you posted and was hoping it was another episode of Chemogate!
Round 3 has been a bit rougher in terms of fatigue & pain... but mostly constipation!! I don't know what happened, I forgot 2 preventative doses of colace and ate something with rice flour the night of chemo (I usually avoid rice) and have been in horrible pain ever since. Finally got things moving not long ago but still recovering from writhing on the couch with waves of cramps and not sleeping for several nights due to the pain.
UGH glad it seems to be better, but hope everyone can learn from my mistake and don't slip up or slack off on the anti-constipation regimes!
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Pools - my doc said I could participate in water aerobics at our neighborhood pool. I was very surprised. The only thing he warned against - Don't get hot. How can you be out at a pool in Texas in the summer & not get hot??
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Pools: I am getting the Nulasta shots and my MO said no pools except for certain days of the cycle (I don't remember exactly, but I think it was days 3 to 7 or something). This is in my own pool with no one else in! Even then, she was really reluctant to say yes at all. I didn't even bother asking about the hot tub. I've already had one minor infection in my finger for no reason I could see, except that I did some cleaning without gloves, and I don't want any more courses of antibiotics than I've already had, so I just decided to skip the pool this summer. So far, it's not been hard since we've had lousy weather.
Interesting how we are all getting such different advice about pools and hot tubs. You'd think there would be more standard practices on such things.
Just an interesting side note: one of the young fellows who teaches at my martial arts school just got a job at Oxford BioTheraputics in San Jose, one of the companies that worked on developing Herceptin. The company is working on developing new cancer drugs that target tumor cells and spare healthy ones. He was describing the machine he will be working on and how it separates cells depending on if they have antibodies attached or not. Amazing glimpse on how cancer research is done!
I know I keep saying this, but the Epsom salts really do work, even when things have gotten backed up for days, usually within a few hours.
Indenial, I'm afraid the next Chemogate will need to await further developments, but I will have something else for you soon.
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Hi! I have two guided imagery CDs I want to "pay forward." One is called, Fight Cancer, the other is, Chemotherapy. Both are by a well-respected psychotherapist, Belleruth Naparstek. (I copied them onto my iPod.)
They are great for anxiety reduction, distraction, relaxation, even helping me to sleep. And healing
I also have several gently used post-mastectomy vests with pockets for drains (the pockets are attached with Velcro). I have both black and white vests.
If you want the CDs or the vests just PM me and I'll send them to you!
If anyone has something they got for the cancer journey that they no longer want or need, feel free to offer it up here as a gift to pay forward.
My sister and I made my mother's potato salad recipe yesterday. My mom died of breast cancer in 2003. I didn't realize my sis never learned how to make mom's potato salad! It was sweet to watch her eat it and relive a bit of our past together (one of the happy parts, for a change). I wish I had known more about BC when my mom got sick. She downplayed it and I just didn't understand. Hindsight.
Anyway, I'm having some of that potato salad for breakfast with my scrambled eggs
Hope you all have a gentle, low SE day.
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On pools... I encourage you to follow your docs instructions if at all possible. When my son was little, we put water in his (clean) sand box -- of course we didn't turn our heads for a second. But he loved playing in it. He also loved to play with buckets of water, etc. I just sat in a lawn chair and kept him company. Sprinklers are great too.
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I haven't posted in a while..
I ended up having Febrile Neutropenia this past thurs-fri. I was ordered to go to the ER when I called in about my symptoms which was chills and fever. I had a 102 fever Thursday at 4:30 but didn't go in because I was half asleep and just took 2 tylenol. Before that I was around 100-99-100.5. It changed so often. I could not get out of bed. ER did bloodwork while I rested and sent me home with 2 antibiotic prescriptions that worked pretty fast. I felt like living just after the first dose.
This happened to me at just about the exact time after my first treatment which is 8 days after treatment.
So FINALLY they are going to give me Neupogen shots to do myself at home. I had asked about it when this happened the last time!
Hopefully my 2nd two chemos will go smoother without this awful sickness again.
I can handle the chemo!I haven't lost anymore hair. I think it's actually growing back. Haven't shaved my legs or pits but they are slightly stubby. Pubes are hanging around but thinned out. Still have eyebrows and lashes. No nail problems. No mouth sores. Have not had a period since I started, I love that.
Other than that, bloody snotty nose still, right eyelid twitch, today a floater or strange dark speck.. it's weird.
3rd chemo June 4th, yippee! -
rockermom66... yipes! what an ordeal! Glad you are feeling better now!
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UGH...well the damn TOOTH finally FELL out...had dinner and was rinsing after and bam......just fell out root and ALL...no blood....called the MO on call and he didn't seem too concerned.....temp was @ 99.3 so gonna keep a watch on that....was at work when it happened...just told me and came on home...used the mouth wash they gave me and I'll call the MO's office tomorrow...ugh....
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Oh No Virginger.... Do they have you doing the salt and baking soda rinse/gargle? I get mouth sores, they have me use the salt/soda mixture first, then the magic mouthwash.
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have me on two different mouth washes...ugh...home now and temp is down to 98
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So sorry, Virginia. That sucks. I'm glad your fever is down.
Big hugs,
Katie -
Boy did my 3rd ac throw me under a truck! All I want to do is sleep. When I'm a wake I just fell like crap. Just cant get my self togeather.I know it could be worse but I hate what this is doing to all of us!
One more ac then on to taxol and herceptin for 12 weeks. Hope its true that it is easier than ac.
Virginger I hope your mouth heals fast. Sorry it fell out.
Rockermom love your new pic.you look great. So sorry about having to go to er. What a weekend for some!
Katie love your potatoe salad story! Something so simple can have such meaning.
So today im going fishing no matter what!!! Yesterday it was 28 degrees in the morning. But today is a new day. No rain that we had for 6 days straight. Hope everyone has a great day today! -
I'm off to my third chemo infusion this morning. This will be the first at the dose dense two-week schedule. I'm hoping that doesn't change things too much, as so far my SE have been minimal.
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4 blissful weeks chemo-free, but surgery soon of course. Will find out tomorrow if I am officially cleared for MTX. or if I need more chemo prior. It sounds like all of us 3-4 treatment gals are WIPED OUT! I guess that is what they meant by "cumulative". Anyone else dealing with hormone issues due to the "forced" menopause? I am crying at the drop of a hat then - how shall I put this? - Zero to BITCH in 60 seconds, LOL.
Hoping everyone had a good weekend, I just rested, and feel somewhat better thankfully.
VIRGINGER - That is awful about your tooth, hoping you are feeling better!
ROCKERMOM - Sounds like you have been through the ringer, hope you are doing better as well.
Yeah for Ativan - I take Klonopin which works better for me, just longer acting, but takes longer to work!
Best wishes for a good week, and THOUGHT FOR THE DAY:
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I had my last chemo treatment 3 wks ago. Will have Herceptin for 11 more treatments. The last 2 wks Ive had problems with my eyes watering. Does anyone know, will that ease up over time while I'm only on Herceptin or is that a SE of the Herceptin itself?
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Liz, I have the same problem, and I am not on Herceptin yet. So, I think it is a SE of the chemo itself, or possibly the Neulasta if you take that.
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@heather214..yes, I took Neulasta. Thanks, just seems like it started after my 6th and final treatment and is really bad right now. I can't wear my contacts at all and I see better with them than my glasses. Someone just told me it was an SE of Taxotere. Hopefully now that I'm finished with that, it will get better.
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Finally, I've started an antibiotic. Hoping it clears up my miserable sinus pain and pressure!
Heather, my emotions have been changeable and sometimes extreme. I also turn into a fussy baby when I get too tired. I just fall apart!
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just checking in....feeling better but still achy, so took the day off...being a couch potato and RESTING....MO called back and does want me to take antibiotic for a week just to make sure there's no infection...<sigh> still using both mouth washes....after she SHOCK of lossing the tooth, almost glad..no pain anymore so we shall see...
Hope everyone is doing well and minimal SE
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DaffyC, I am one of the babies crying about TC#3. It is day 8 and I am better, but I must say that days 3-7 were pretty nasty. And it was the holiday weekend so I was very depressed that I only took a shower and in bed the rest of the time. Was crying a lot and I found out my DH goes absolutely NUTS when I cry. I finally told him that I was crying for no reason whatsoever, nothing for him to fix and basically nothing to "see here". I wish he would just hold me when I am crying instead of trying to fix it or talk me into not crying. But, the bottom line is that this chemo is putting up a fight. I have 3 more to go. Not trying to be a hero, just want to kill this f8cking cancer. Onward.
Have lost 10 pounds this cycle. Last time I lost 7 and put it back on by the time of the next treatment. Hopefully, that will happen this time too. Wouldn't mind losing weight (wouldn't we all?) but not a good thing to do when the body is trying to recuperate. Wish me luck....my taste buds are on holiday!
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Beherenow...how much apple cider do you add to 24oz of water? I had thrush my first round of chemo and would like to prevent it the next round. Thanks
I also listen Bellruth Naparsek's guided imagery. I listen to them before I go to bed, whenever I am anxious and during my chemo treatment. Most of the time I fall asleep so they must be relaxing me. -
Elkatho- probably 1-2 tablespoons. I keep it palatable
. Let me know if it helps!
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Hi LadieS,
Wow so much going on with everyone. Those feeling the "Mack truck effect" - ohhhhh I get it. My worst was my 3rd AC treatment but the 4th not so bad. I'm now done with AC an had my first Taxol today. Other than a nap I'm feeling good today.
Sending y'all love and light as we continue on our journey.
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