Aging Parents Anonymous
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We moved Dad to Hospice today....everyone was in agreement that this is the best place for him. Don't know how much more time we have with Dad, only G-d does, but I hope whatever time Dad has left will be peaceful. MY brother and his wife are here till Wednesday. DH is going to go over to Hospice in the morning to meet with the doctor there....My brother and his wife will take Mom during the day and I'll go at 4 after work....when the time gets closer, to heck with work!!!! Wednesday and Thursday are a holiday (Shavuot) and I will walk over in the morning to be with him. Having cancer was hard, but this is so much harder.
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So sorry, Karen. (((((HUGS))))
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I'm saddened to hear this.
I'm hope he is able to rest and that all of you can be pain free.
Eric
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Oh Karen, I just read this, I had been in Vegas for over a week. Also, just wrote a long post, and lost it. But I want you to know your family is in my prayers, and I also hope your dad is resting and that any pain is being managed so he is comfortable. I worry about your mother too, hope she is doing okay. This is a very sad time, it is good you moved them closer to you, I know you are getting him the best possible care. You are a good daughter to both of your parents, and have given them a lot of love and care. I have a hug for you (((((Karen))))) and also a gentle one for your father {{{Karen's Father}}}, and for your entire family (((Karen's family))). You are right, only God knows how much time he has left, and I am praying for you to feel comforted at this difficult time. So very sorry.
Peace and Love, Kathy
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My father passed away Thursday May16th at 12:50pm. My husband and I were with him at the time of his passing. The funeral is Friday the 17th and then we will be sitting shiva. Karen
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so sorry karen, prayers for you and your family
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karen,
May his memory be a blessing. I hope that you and your mother find comfort in each other. Be well,
*susan*
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Oh Karen, I am so sorry.....I just now read that your father passed away, as I am out of town again. My heart and prayers go out to you and your family. Your dad knew how much you loved him, and I hope soon your good memories of him will bring you comfort. Prayers for you, your mom, and entire family.
Love, Kathy
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Karen, I am so sorry for your loss. What a blessing you've been to both your parents. I can't imagine how you and your Mom must feel right now. Please know I'm sending waves of comforting wishes from the Texas coast to you and all your family.
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Mom has been having sweeling in her legs and feet...been to the pcp twice in the past month...he started her on diuretics and compression stockings..she wears them but not as much as she should and she doesn't elevate her legs as much as she should but I guess anything is better than nothing....swelling is a little better, but her left leg is weeping water.....took mom to the PCP today again today...he is increasing the lasix...he drew more labs, think just the potassium....but I think she's had more labs done recently....just get over view of results....when they call with these results tomorrow I will ask....they have my phone number, so they call me (thankfully as then I know what is going on).....Mom told pcp that she has fallen a couple times...he asked if it was new since moving here and she said yes....I go NO ITS NOT!!!! YOU FELL IN FL!!! (yes, I yelled it)!!! Mom said she didn't remember!!!! UHGH!!! Its a good thing I go to all the appointments....then after I asked her and she said she remembered falling when I was with her, but not any other times....she was black and blue in Florida!!!!! She asked the pcp for sleeping pills...but then tells him she feels great and isn't tired and doesn't nap even though she gets up at 2 or 3 am.....she asked at teh last appt......this is odd from mom as she says she doesn't like taking pills!!! but she wants to sleep!!! when she wakes up at 2 or 3, instead of reading or watchng TV, she gets up and pays bills, tydies up the apt or whatever....certainly nothing to go back to sleep....with her balance issues, I really worry about her taking sleeping pills....pcp wrote it for 5mg ambian, but I worry if it doesn't do the job, she will take more than 1!!!! I tried to get her to take melatonin, but she took it once and said it didn't work, so I told her to try it again and she took 2 (2- 3mg) and slept to 3 this morning.....Its very scarey!!!! We are going to visit my DD and SIL in Toronto later this week then to Montreal to see my uncle (Mom's brother) in Montreal...in all we'll be gone 9 days.....it certainly won't be a vacation for me....will be work, but I couldn't go see my DD without taking her, plus we need to take care of some business in Montreal regarding Dad and his benefits....Karen
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Hi ladies. Long time no see. BC has been on my mind this week, as it's the 9th anniversary of my dx. My mom is 86 now. Her bc was dx'd clear back in 1980. This year I'm faced with the task of finding a new doctor for her. She's been going to the same doctor for decades, and now he's on medical leave of his own. So that's a challenge.
In August her eye doctor found a virus in her eye of all things. It took 6 weeks of antiviral meds and ointments and creams for that thing to go away. Her cognition took a heavy hit, and unfortunately, it doesn't seem to be recovering even though the meds are long since complete. Having a conversation is hardly even possible anymore. She seems to misunderstand every question I ask. This is new terrain to navigate, and it's tricky territory for sure.
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Oh Althea, my heart goes out to you and your mom. Congrats on your 9 year anniversary of bc, however! That is quite a milestone. We have serious health issues here too, my DD has tongue cancer, and it is very aggressive...had it cut out at the end of May when it was discovered, then had all lymph nodes taken out from her neck this summer, then the tongue cancer returned and had to be cut out again the beginning of this month. Now she is going to have to have aggressive rads (both sides of mouth, and neck) and chemo, which is a hard area to have that in. My heart has been very heavy with this, plus my parents returned (97 and 93) from a long trip to HI, on the 16th, and we have been doing a lot for them too. They are relatively healthy, although my mom's memory is not good, and she zapped their microwave last week and it had to be replaced (she may have put something metal in it). And my dad goes to the skin dr very often, and has another cancer which will be cut out this week. Of course, we drive them to ALL their appts, and with helping my DD and g'kids, my med appts seem to get forgotten. Sorry....sure didn't mean to write all this, I was just going to address your moms issues and wish everyone a Merry Christmas. Guess my mind is heavy with all this, so it just came out.
But really, all you gals taking care of your parents, I do hope things are manageable, and you can have as good a Christmas as is possible, in spite of all the worries you may have. Please give yourselves a big hug from me.
Hugs,
Kathy
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Big hugs to you to wahine. So sorry to hear of your DD's dx. Right now I'm wearing one of my favorite t-shirts, a tie die, that was made by a tongue cancer survivor. That's not one you hear of very often. I hope your DD has the kind of care she wants to find for her treatments. I'm so glad to hear your parents are still living so independently at their age. Be sure to take good care of yourself too. Remember those instructions on the airplanes -- put the oxygen mask on yourself first before tending to the needs of others. Take care and enjoy the holidays.
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Thanks for the nice words, Althea! Yeah, its not a "popular" cancer, and my DD has never smoked, does not drink, or do any of the things they think when its tongue cancer. I love it that you are wearing a t-shirt from a tongue cancer survivor! Thats awesome. OH yeah, I should know that airplane instruction....we were in Iceland early this month when she had her cancer surgery, and were in Paris and Prague when she first got her cancer dx and had the first tongue surgery. Now our travels will be curtailed.....too many need us here at home right now. My DD2 also had surgery on her neck last month....disc replacement at top of spine....so now both my girls have scars across their neck...weird. DD2 and family left to drive back to TX today....they came up early so we could celebrate Christmas with the family. I will TRY to take care of myself, can't promise, but I will do my best. Thanks for the hugs!
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My new year started with a bout of nearly constant 'mom duty'. For the first time in a long time, back pain set in about a week ago. Finally resorted to pain pills and then she got constipated.
Some things are valuable only in hindsight. After my mx/reconstruction surgery I was constipated for 5 very long days. What misery! I can at least be grateful to know how miserable it is just so I can know how someone else is feeling while in the midst. Mom finally got relief today, on day 4. Now my concern is that all the things I was using on days 2, 3 and 4 are going to continue working, causing a different concern.
Over the course of these days, I've spent the night at her house, spent nearly every waking hour at her house. This morning she didn't know where she was. She was wondering how she got here (she was sitting in the den at the time). She wondered where I live. She was looking in the closet for the morning newspaper. This is the worst I've ever seen her cognition.
Communicating with her has been difficult for quite some time now. I get different answers every few minutes. She likes the black olives best. She likes the green olives best. She fell. No, she didn't fall. She felt dizzy. No, I didn't feel dizzy. It's a guessing game what the real answer is. A lifelong habit of sarcastic humor only adds layers of difficulty to the mix.
So, I'll be shopping for home health care this week, I suspect.
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Oh dear, Althea, I am sorry to hear that. Very thankful though that you can be with her, and get her safely set up in a good home or with home health care. ((((Althea))))). My parents were in HI for 7 wks, getting back the middle of Dec. But now they are leaving in a few days to spend 5 more wks there, as my dad is being honored for the statehood anniversary (he was in the legislature then). But he is 97 and my mom is 93 and although my mom is declining the most, I see my dad declining a lot lately. Glad they can still make that long trip though, by themselves. I get wheelchairs for them, which guarantees they get to the right gates! But I am facing a horrible few weeks/months as my DD1 goes thru treatments for her recurring tongue cancer. Will get the port tomorrow for chemo, then a feeding tube before rads starts. IT will be a rough road ahead. So I am glad my parents will be away for awhile, as it is hard juggling all their appts that we take them to, plus helping my DD with her appts, and watching the g'kids. I feel like a sandwich, for sure. Good luck with your home health care decisions!
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My mom's ct scan results show a recent compression fraction in her T11. sigh Home health care workers are coming and going and more are on their way. Physical therapy starts soon. Not sure what they can do to alleviate pain from a compression fracture, but I am hopeful they'll have some tricks up their sleeve. Meanwhile, I spend nearly all my time at her house. I barely have time to come home to feed my cat and spend time on my computer. I feel lost without my computer. I love listening to webinars and telesummits. I love having a little bit of access to the outside world via my cell phone, but it's just not the same.
Mom is aware that I'm overtaxed by this level of support for her. She seems ready to have a conversation about options for other ways to have her needs met. *happy dance* A social worker will come to visit and educate us on the various options available. I've already looked at some assisted living places in town. She's been so isolated for so long. She seems to have liked it that way, but surely she would adjust and enjoy the company of some peers. Tick tock. Time to get the cat back indoors and go back to mom's.
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Althea, good luck with your mom--she's lucky to have you.
I'm glad to see this thread b/c even though my mom has been gone for 2 years now, I well remember the stress we went thru with her--she was going down with what we thought was alzheimer's and it was so fast. She was hallucinating, which we found out later is an indication of other health problems and is called delirium. I had to drive down to pick her up and force her to move to her other house where we could all keep a better eye on her and that was heart-wrenching--she kept trying to jump out of the car on the way. Then we had to get her evaluated and start looking for a nursing home b/c she was going down so fast that we knew we couldn't care for her and then she started to throw up and we got her to the doc and found out she had terminal cancer--was all eaten up inside so bad you couldn't tell where it started. 2 weeks later she was gone and never had pain. It was a miracle and we were grateful for the speediness of it and the lack of pain. Oh and then the auction. . . Mom was a hoarder. I've been tracing my own cancer back to that time and all the stress we went through.
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Feeling very sad tonight and wish I could cry....oh I so need a big cry!! I worry about my mother....she is struggling so much with her physical limitations...Parkinsons and it is progessing and she is not responding to the meds...she is sooo unhappy....she can barely walk and falls at times, she was always very physically active...riding a bike, long walks and now walking with a walker is difficult...she says that "this isn't a life" and she doesn't know what she is going to do...then she says she's going to shoot herself (not worried as she doesn't have a gun), going to jump off the roof (couldn't do it) or take an overdose (a possibility)...I now that she does not have a plan but it is very hard hearing her talk like this.....I know a lot of this talk is venting and out of her frustration, but it is still very hard....But I'm ready for tears tonight but they aren't coming!!! I just don't know what to do to help her....we are waiting on a consult with a movement disorder specialist...we see her neurologist monthly and have an appt on Friday....she has told the neurologist in no uncertain terms that she would rather be dead than use a wheelchair, so he knows how she is feeling...we see the pcp on the 6th....her feet and legs are very swollen too.....I miss my Mom who I knew and it is hard for me to see her this way...I love her dearly and want to do whatever I can to help...I try to emphasize with her, but at times, I just feel so helpless and don't know what to say.....tomorrow we will run errands but when she is having a bad day it is hard!!! The last time we went to the grocery store, they didn't have any of the electric cards and she could barely walk pushing the buggy...I tried holding her but it was awful..... At times, life is soooo darn hard!!! Yet I know I have so much to be greatful for......
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Karen, I am so sorry your mom is feeling so low. The suicidal ideations are of great concern. Friday seems too far away for anyone to be notified of this development, unless it's ongoing already and the medical team is aware.
Adjusting to the new normal is so hard isn't it? The first week I spent at my mom's house, I was nearly beside myself feeling out of sorts. I can at least feel a little bit connected to the world with my clunky phone that does a reasonably good job of facebook. Living without my computer really cramps my style, though, and I'm trying to be more mobile with technology.
My mom was adamant for a long time about not using a cane. Her balance has been precarious for a long time, but using a cane was just beyond the pale for her. She's using it now without complaint. Even though your mom has stated she'd rather be dead than use a wheelchair, when those two choices are no longer in the future and in the present tense, well, I know it would give me pause to reconsider. All of us are mourning the loss of what we once had. Accepting what comes next is just really hard. It's hard to be missing our moms when they're still here but not really. This morning my mom said "thank you, whoever you are." arrow to my heart
I can only hope her fracture will heal, the pain meds will discontinue and the confusion will dissipate also. Not holding my breath on that one.
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Althea...thanks for your support...I'm not concerned at this point in time that Mom is actually suicidal, it just hurts to hear her make the comments...She is on anti-depressants and has been for a few years...She is resistant to find a new counselor and/or psychiatrist here...her PCP is reluctant to change or increase meds due to side effects and she is already having other health issues....he doesn't want to trade one problem for another...I go to all medical appt with my mother, so I hear first hand what the doc is saying...The docs have heard her comments!!! Mom is now using a walker full time some thing that she didn't want to do only a few months ago, but now she can barely walk without holding onto walls or the walker...it is very sad....It is so hard to see her decline....and not to be able to do anything to help....I don't bring up wheelchair....I guess time will tell what happens...we have my late father's electric scooter...mom has mentioned trying it..that would give her more freedom, but I do worry about her on that with her balance issues....OY...
Sorry about your Mother...I hope that she heals both physically and with the cognitive issues....She is lucky to have you...Thanks again for your support. Karen
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Mom had an appointment with the movement disorder specialist today....a specialist neurologist...the news is NOT good...The appt was about 3 hours with the nurse practitioner and the neurologist...He gave 2 working diagnoses but want further testing to help with a definitive diagnosis and help with Tx plan....PSP (or Progessive Supranuclear Palsy) or Lewy Body Dementia ( a form of Parkinsons). He is suspecting the PSP which does not have a good prognosis. There is so much more to tell about the visit but I just can't write all the details from the visit. It just breaks my heart. The doctor said that by the end of the year he does not see my Mother as being able to walk safely (even with the walker) at all. He told us that he is really worried about her and worried that by the end of the year she will have a bad enough fall to break a hip. So now we are awaiting scheduling a neuropsych appt and urology appt (due to incontinence) and need to have some labs drawn. We see her PCP tomorrow for her monthly appointment.
I just need to cry but can't....I'm so tired of being strong!!! but how do I let go!!! Please keep my mother in your prayers.....Karen
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I would never have imagined in my wildest dreams that my Mom, uber polite, refined and sophisticated, could ever take us on such a tumultuous roller coaster ride. The full story is longer than I can share right now. In a nutshell, she spent a week in a hospital and a week in hospice. She died Thursday morning. Everything that's happened in that timeframe seems like an eternity and a blink of an eye all at the same time. Hospice is a godsend. I think everyone knows someone who's had a firsthand experience with hospice. It is a terrain that I feared, thinking it would be more than I could ever be capable of navigating. I so appreciate all that my Mom has done for me in her lifetime. Even in her final days when she could no longer speak, she was giving me one more gift -- the gift of giving and receiving more love than I ever thought possible. Thank you Mom. May your passage be courageous, safe, serene, and joyous.
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Hugs,Althea.
What a beautiful eulogy to your mother. It is so hard to lose the most important person in one's life.
Keep hold of the precious memories.
Sam x
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Althea, Baruch Dayem Emet. I'm so sorry for your loss. May your memories bring you comfort. Hopsice is a G-dsend. My father spent his last days in hospice. Karen
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Althea: I am so sorry for your loss. The gift of giving that you got from her will be with you forever.
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Thank you Sam, Karen, and Yazmin. On top of everything else, a friend from my local bc support group died last Thursday, which also happened to be my birthday. From the time she sent out a Christmas card with an upbeat letter saying she was cancer-free one more year, she took a turn for the worse on roughly the same timeframe as my Mom. Mets were found in her liver. A brief stay in the hospital, a brief time in hospice, and now she's an angel. I hope to have more birthdays in my future, ones that I will enjoy a whole lot more. I plan to do a lot of journalling this week and rediscover the world out there.
It's tough to be consumed by caregiving, and even tougher to have it taken away. There's still a mountain of things to do, of course, but just not the same. Mom adopted two kitties that were born on her patio 2 years ago. I am caring for them, which isn't easy considering they're basically feral cats with a home. Not very adoptable, but I'm working on them to be more friendly. Any helpful hints are welcome. Turtle care is proving to be more challenging than I anticipated also.
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Althea, I just now saw your post. My heart really goes out to you. It sounds like your mom was soooo amazing even in her last few hours. How wonderful to feel all that love. I know you miss her terribly. But you wrote such an endearing, eloquent, touching post. She was a wonderful woman who raised a wonderful daughter, that's for sure. May God comfort you all. Hugs, Kathy
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Oh dear, I had missed the last page, and your most recent post. I hope you can find homes for the cats and the turtle, but so glad you are able to care for them in the meantime. Right now, I am helping my DD fight oral cancer. Its so awful, and she never smoked or did any of the other so called "risk factors". Its been very hard, and poor dear cannot eat or drink, has to depend on a feeding tube, so has lost a lot of weight that she didn't need to lose. I am with her every day, and either stay with her at her house, take her to chemo, rads, and drs appts, and take the grandkids where they need to go. Her sister came up twice to visit, but its a 10-12 hr drive for her. She just has a few tx left, but the SE's have been awful. I am praying that ALL the cancer will be gone. My parents (97 and 93) are back living near us, but I have had NO time to be there for them. Hugs to all of you!
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Wahine, my heart goes out to you and your dd as she endures her treatments. Caregiving is no cakewalk either. Be strong and be sure to take good care of yourself also.
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