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  • MelissaDallas
    MelissaDallas Member Posts: 7,268
    edited February 2013

    I know how hard it is when they are resistive but sometimes the matter has to be taken out of their hands. Can they not stay in your house until the apartment is ready? It is good that you have POA, but if she should fall & break something then you are going to have a much harder time getting them moved.



    I truly am sorry. You are probably in one of the most difficult transition periods that people go through in their lives. I so hope the neurologist can give you good news tomorrow & they can do something to steady her up. My granddad declined very rapidly after a fall a couple of years ago. He broke his hand badly & had some more minor injuries that were still very painful. Elderly people sometimes don't manage well with pain & anesthesia. His mild dementia accelerated rapidly after that accident & he was also incontinent forever after it. He, like your mom, had been falling more & more in the few years before then. We always worried it would be a broken hip, but more minor injuries can still have pretty devastating consequences.

  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited March 2013

    I am utterly exhausted...both mentally and physically....can't remember the last time I have felt like this.  I've been home since Monday night and I'm getting back on a plane again on Wednesday!!!!

    Mom has been diagnosed with normal pressure hyprocephaly (NPH).  She has a brain cysternogran on Monday and we see the neurologist again on the 8th.  The treatment is putting a shunt in her brain if the test comes back that the  NPH is due to poor absorption of the cerebral spinal fluid.  You can google NPH for more info.

    I just want to cry when I think about the whole situation.

    My goal at this point is after this trip next week, going back down on April 10th to help them move and bring them back here on April 14th.  We have to start paying rent on the apt on the 18th of this month.  I am meeting with someone on Thursday with Mom to talk about how o down size, what to take, do we leave furnitue to stage the condo till sold etc....It should be really helpful.  Then we need to figure out when to put the condo on the market...probably right after they move.

    Keep Mom in your prayers..Dad too....and hope that I don't totally exhaust myself with all this.....

  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited March 2013

    Karen,

    Wow! You know that your perseverence is why your Mother was finally diagnosed properly. Based on my reading, it is often missed and/or misdiagnosed. It sounds as though your next few months are going to be very difficult. It sounds as though you are already hitting the edge of your capacity. Find a few moments here and there to breath deeply. Take care of yourself as much as you can.

    *susan*

  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited March 2013

    I'm off to my parents again tomorrow after work till early Monday morning....will have to miss 1/2 day of work....hope my bosses don't get too ticked off...but family comes first!!!

    Mom had the brain cysternogran yesterday...went for xrays today and goes again tomorrow....we see the neurologist on Friday...Mom is soooo scared....I told her that what ever is going on is going on and the doctor is just going to give answers......hoping that the answers lead to a good Tx and prognosis.....

    I have a tentative move date for my parents....after this trip, I won't be going down till the move....planning on going on April 10th and flying them back here on the 14th.....only a month after I get back from this trip....

    Thanks for all your support.  I'll keep you posted....Karen

  • wahine
    wahine Member Posts: 8,231
    edited March 2013

    (((((Karen))))), (((((Karen's Parents))))). So sorry this has all gotten so much worse. I hadn't been to this thread for awhile, and just got caught up. Hoping things start going better, and that when you get them moved near you, that they will do much better there. Its so hard, but thank God that you have been able to do so much, and visit them so much.

  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited March 2013

    Been at my parents since late Wednesday night....Dad hasn't been feeling good the past couple days, so we called 911 this afternoon....he was admitted to the hospital....his blood sugar was 30 when he got to the ER....and other Dx is congestive heart failure....I'm supposed to go home early Monday morning, but not sure if I should extend the trip....DH is supportive of whatever I do, but he is out of town all week....so that means finding someone for DD to stay with and someone to take care of the dogs....I know there isn't much I can do here, but its support for Mom and someone to ask the questions.....Mom does okay, but she is in denial that she has any memory problems, plus all this medical stuff is too overwhelming for her......

    and the other news is...Mom saw the neurologist on Friday...the brain cysternogran came back normal....so now we are back to square one to finding out the reason for the gait and balance problems....there is brain atrophy so neurologist is recommending neuropsych testing which is in 2 weeks, then some sort of CT scan and then meet with him to get results on Arpil 8th

    Not sure what to do with the move....when I came down here my goal was April 10th to come down, finalized everything and them fly back to Denver on April 12th....Have a company helping Mom sort through things and pack and they can be here with the movers....BUT dad being sick is going to make it harder....They have sooooo much stuff to downsize....we've been going through things, but mom is tired after a couple hours......I guess a good night sleep will help figure some of it out....but the first question is do I extend my trip......Please keep my parents in your prayers....me too!!!!

  • chrisct
    chrisct Member Posts: 2,662
    edited March 2013

    (((((((((Karen))))))))))) and ((((((your parents))))))) 

  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited March 2013

    Das is being discharged from the rehab facility on April 2nd...10 days before the move date.....Don't know yet if he will be on O2 when he goes home...need to also find out if he needs to be on O2 to fly.....Mom is having some more tests tomorrow... A CT to look at blood flow in the brain...still no answers.....and she continues to have trouble with her balance and with falling.....she told me today that she is sore....she is sooooo worn out....follow up with the neurologist on the 8th to get test results, but thinking to have mom change the appt till I'm there....I arrive in the afternoon of the 10th (taking the day off work)....and then we fly back to Denver on the 12th....it can't come soon enough!!! 

    I went today to buy them 2 recliners and a new bed.....I have a dresser they can use...and will need to bring over a couple end tables and table lamps till there stuff arrives....I have 2 new fry pans for my folks...will get them cleaners and toiletries...and will also brink over paper goods.....Right now we have a large window for their stuff to arrive....anywhere from April 16 to 24....so as little as 4 days to as much as 12 days....will also bring my sons TV over...or buy them one before they get here....My brother is buying the TV for the bedroom and a microwave, so need to get it by next Sunday, the 7th.   Time is going by quickly.....Next monday and tuesday are the last days of Passover so I'll be working Th and Friday instead, so no free time....so will either have to go to Costco in the evening or on Sunday.....

  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited March 2013

    Karen, What a whirlwind. Hope that both of your parents are able to fly comfortably. Good to hear that your brother is participating in the planning.

    Sadly, my father died earlier this month. He never came home from the nursing home, nor were any of us surprised. He was in no pain when he died. His doctor made sure that he was never uncomfortable. In the space of three weeks, his body just gave out. We are all extremely sad but the man that we loved was no longer really in that body.

    *susan*

  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited March 2013

    Susan....my condolences on the loss of your father.  May your memories bring you peace. 

    My brother isn't helping with the planning, just buying the microwave and a TV..but thats okay....Its been a long 6 or so months since everything has changed... I hope and pray that Denver will be good for them....it will be so much easier for me to have them around the corner....I can see their building from my back yard and 7 or 8 minute walk!!!

  • wahine
    wahine Member Posts: 8,231
    edited March 2013

    Oh Susan, I am so sorry. Even though he was "no longer really in that body", I am sure it was so sad to lose him. My heart goes out to you.
    And Karen, Glad you have a move date for your parents, and hope it goes as smooth as possible.
    We just got home from being on the island of Madeira, Portugal for a week, then a few days in Ireland, visiting a bco buddy....awesome trip, but was glad to see my parents did ok while we were gone. My dad (96) has been using his new recumbent bike 2xday and already has better mobility...he was having trouble getting up out of chairs, but seems SO much better already.

    Hugs to you all,

    Kathy

  • maltomlin
    maltomlin Member Posts: 343
    edited April 2013

    Hi

    How do you cope with a mother who is 86, blind, has just had a hip replacement after a fall............but is also bad-mouthing everyone and is being a?................bitch

  • wahine
    wahine Member Posts: 8,231
    edited April 2013

    Awwwwww....well, you pray a lot, for patience, as she is not the mother you used to know....I think all those problems would turn me into a beyotch too. Hang in there, dear, it is SO hard, and just vent here when you want to, and pray for LOTS of understanding and patience. AND if it all gets to be too much, have a drink and join us on the Drinking Thread.

    Hugs to Maltomlin ((((Maltomlin))))

    The best to you,

    Katy

  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited April 2013

    Dad was discharged from the rehab facility yesterday.  Mom said last night and again this evening that Dad complains that he does not feel good and to take him back to the hospital.  He was discharged without O2.  I need to find out from his pcp if he will need it to fly!!!  Mom had me talk to Dad and he sounded old....when I talked to him a week ago, he sounded better.  I told Dad that I would be there in a week and in a week and 2 days he was moving to Denver and he said he couldn't wait!!!  Mom is so overhwhelmed!!!  The realtor is coming Friday afternoon and Mom will sign the contract to put their condo on the market.  I love the community they live in, but the monthly association fee is too high to keep it and only use occasionally!!!  But we do meet the age requirement!!!!  Some of mom's friends are taking her to lunch tomorrow and others on Friday...she is feeling good about how nice her friends have been and how helpful!!!  But mom told me today that she is going to take a driving test in Denver that she thinks she can pass it ( she didn't in Floriday in February) but then she says she really doesnt want to drive!!  I don't say anything about the test, just that it will be easier in Denver, that I'm here to help and that the community they are moving to has transportation.  I'm so stressed with everything I need to get down to get the place here ready for them, rearranging my work schedule etc....But there's only 2 months left in the school year!!!!! and then its summer vacation!!!!

  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited April 2013

    Today, my husband and I set up my parents apt....it looks so cute.....there new bed and 2 recliners were delivered....we brought a dresser from our house and a desk that I got for them.......then we brought 3 table lamps and 3 end tables to use till the moving van arrives (which is predicted to be 4 to 12 days after they get here!!!)....I bought food for the frig and paper goods.....make the bed with my linens and brought towels....the apt is ready for my parents.....I fly to S. FL early Wednesday morning and then we fly back to denver on Friday....we land around 4pm and should be at the apt between 5 and 5:30......Once their belongings arrive and art work is hung the apt will be home!!!!

  • wahine
    wahine Member Posts: 8,231
    edited April 2013

    Sounds like you have made a lot of progress, Karen! Nice that you have it all set up for them. It will be so much easier for you to monitor them, with them living nearby, vs being across the country. Hope it is smooth sailing when you go there on Wed, and that everything will work out beautifully!

  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited April 2013

    Karen,

    I hope that the human transfer from one place to another goes as well as possible. You certainly have done everything possible to help them transition gently. My best thoughts to you...

    *susan*

  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited April 2013

    Mom and Dad arrived at their new apt on Friday in time for dinner...they decided to eat in the dining room (they had thought maybe they would have dinner brought to the apt) and I unpacked the 2 suitcases and carry on.  When I was done, I sat with them while they finished dinner.  I got home around 7, just in time to jump in the shower and candle lighting for Shabbat.  My DH and DD had dinner made....

    Yesterday I went over to their apt (its less than a 10 min walk for me) twice.  It is an adjustment.  I think it is harder on Dad than Mom.  Dad is strugging with the walk to the elevator and then to the dining room.  He walks very, very slowly with his walker...he wants his electric scooter....I am trying to convince him that walking is better and we just need to get new things on the bottom of the walker for carpet....the scooter is on the moving van so he needs to use the walker till then.

      I went early this morning to bring a news paper as we haven't started delivery yet....Dad was tired and did no want to get up and eat breakfast so Mom was going to go alone.   I'm picking Mom up at 11 to take her to Costco to buy a microwave and a TV for their bedroom (my brother is giving it to them as a gift).  My husband will mount the TV on the wall and set up the comast cable when the comcast stuff comes.  Not sure if they will have TV before then, so it might be a couple more days.  The moving van is set to arrive between the 20th and 23rd.  I know it will feel so much better when they have all their belongings.  They didn't take much in the way of furniture, but tons of other "stuff"... I only hope it all fits or the place will be too crowded and more sorting for mom.  Mom just had a hard time parting with things...mostly the junk type stuff!!!!

    I hope they settle in nicely and the move isn't too hard.  Mom is having trouble walking but is using the walker.  We saw the neurologist on Thursday and he basically told us nothing from all the tests!!!  When I said I was frustrated, he commented what you want you mom to be sick!!!! (or something like that).   I said NO, I wanted answers on why she has so much trouble walking some days!!!  They have an appt with a new pcp later this month.   Their health insurance (medicaire) is changing the end of this month....no one told MOm this when she gave the change of addy, but she got a letter yesterday saying their insurance was stopping the end of the month....nothing about what the new insurance would be.....so she called medicaire and they said she would be getting a letter saying what the insurance would be effective May 1st.  

    Will keep everyone posted.  Thank for all your support....

  • chrisct
    chrisct Member Posts: 2,662
    edited April 2013

    I'm glad they are all moved in - it must be a relief to finally have them near you.  I hope you can get a different doctor.  I could not deal with one so disrespectful.  Does your mom have sinus problems by any chance?  I have problems from time to time with my inner ear and I always have problems with my sinuses and my Dr said my ear problems which cause problems with my balance(especially when I look up or down at all) can be caused by my sinuses.  Since all those tests aren't providing any answers, I thought I'd throw that out there in case it could be the cause.  I hope you can find someone who can give you answers soon.  (((((HUGS)))))

  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited April 2013

    chrisct....mom doesn't have sinus problems...but she did see an ENT a while back...forgot what he said...but its just not balance as she is not dizzy...its trouble walking....and very unsteady and unsure of herself....we walked yesterday and it was too far...won't do it again!!!

    All their docs will be new here.....glad to be done with the docs in Florida.  We have a new pcp that they are seeing on the 25th that a very good friend recommended...and he took my parents even though he is not taking patients with medicare.....this friend is also a pcp but is slowing down his practice and would only refer us to someone who is good.....

    Dad is very unhappy....he keeps saying "why am I here"...he wants to go back to Florida....I told him he was here cuz I'm here and where else could he live and see his daughter almost every day!!! and he said true but it will take time to adjust.  Dad keeps asking when their stuff will arrive (in a week to 10 days).  Mom is doing better....she has the attitude that its what needed to be done (but of course she wishes she could have been able to stay in FL).....hopefully she will continue to feel good about the move.  Dad isn't eating much and wants to get into bed early!!!  He told mom he doesn't want to go to dinner.  He's eaten 1/2 piece of toast today and some juice.  I"ll talk to mom again later.

    Took mom to pick out a microwave and TV (my brother is buying it for them...I paid and he will pay me back).  Mom picked the brand TV she had in FL as it was familiar and found a small microwave that she liked at TArget.....I like one and she liked a different one, so I'm so glad that she got to pick it out.  My DH mounted the TV on the wall in their bedroom and found an atenna box to use till the Comcast gets installed later this week.  They will also have a TV in the living room when their stuff arrives.  I know MOm was thrilled to have the TV...she loves to get in bed at night and watch it. 

    Thats the latest from Denver....

  • susan_02143
    susan_02143 Member Posts: 7,209
    edited April 2013

    Karen, You did it! I am so very impressed that you were able to navigate the last few months and survive to tell the story. Sorry that your dad is being so reluctant. You know that this was the right decision, but justifying the move must test your patience.

    My mother-in-law has finished her last phase of Alzheimer's and died this morning. I sincerely hope that she was in no pain and that whatever anxieties might have been occuring were taken care of. For some reason, they withheld the morphine for almost a week. Services will be later this week giving us a bit of time to plan the trip to Georgia.

  • wahine
    wahine Member Posts: 8,231
    edited April 2013

    Oh Susan, my heart goes out to all of you. Even though it may have been expected, its still sad. I also hope she was not in any pain. ((((Susan)))))

    Karen, Glad you got them moved by you! YAY! Even though there is still a lot to do, you did the hardest part already. I hope the new drs will be great for them, and that eventually they will be so happy to be there. How lucky they are to have someone (you) taking such good care of them!!!

    Big Hugs to All,

    Kathy

  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited April 2013

    Susan,  my condolences on the loss of your MIL.  I hope your memories will bring peace to you and the rest of the family.

    Kathy...I'm thrilled beyond thrilled that my parents are right around the corner.  Mom is sounding good....I spoke with her after dinner and she was telling me her plans for tomorrow.  She is worried about Dad...he did go to dinner with her but didn't eat much and he was in bed by 6:45 (no different than before).   DH talked to Mom when he was putting up the wall mount for the TV and was glad to hear some of the "old" mom...

    I work M, T, W so I won't be at the apt till late afternoon, but I will talk to Mom during the day.  This is a busy week....I have meetings after school every day, then 2 days I have things at night.....but even 1/2 hour is good to spend with them.  Then of course I have TH and F off.....

  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited April 2013

    Its Tuesday and a new day for Dad....after being so miserable yesterday and refusing to go downstairs for dinner and saying how miserable he was....TODAY he is HAPPY!!!  he told mom and then mom had him tell me how much he likes the new apt, the new community, the people and all the activities and that I picked a great place!!!  I went over after dinner and Dad was still up and talked to me and mom....I"m sooooo happy to see the change in Dad....Life is good!!!!

  • wahine
    wahine Member Posts: 8,231
    edited April 2013

    Yippee, Karen, thats awesome news!!!!

  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited April 2013

    Oh what a difference a day makes.....not a good day for Dad today!!!! he went to bed at 5:30.....at breakfast and no lunch or dinner...I did get him to have a little OJ before he went to bed....he wouidn't change his Depends and his pants were wet and he wouldn't let mom check is blood sugar....Sure hope tomorrow is better....They see the new pcp in a week...wonder if I should have made it for tomorrow, but oh well...need to keep track of how he is feeling and behavior....

  • eric95us
    eric95us Member Posts: 2,845
    edited April 2013

    Hi. I finally decided to post here.



    My mom just turned 95 and had been able to do quite well taking care of herself. She still lives in her home about 2 miles from me.



    When my wife received the BC news last year, it seemed like things kind of fell apart for my mom...medication errors and falling. I'm guessing the medication errors were contributing to the falling because she's much steadier on her feet now that she's correctly taking her meds again.



    My brother is in China, so I'm pretty much it.



  • wahine
    wahine Member Posts: 8,231
    edited April 2013

    Welcome Eric! It is so scary as our parents age. We are lucky to still have them with us, but then we have a lot of worries and concerns. I hope your mom will continue to do better since she is back on taking her meds correctly again. My mom is 92 and it is so hard for her to remember to take her meds. My dad is 96 (and a half) and last night we had quite a scare, I thought he wouldn't make it through the night....very unlike him ,as a few days ago he was pressure washing his entire driveway! But today he seemed back to normal. Good luck with your mom, and post here whenever you have questions, or just want to vent. Hope your wife is doing well and kicking the bc to the curb!!!

  • karen1956
    karen1956 Member Posts: 6,503
    edited May 2013

    My folks have now been in Denver for 3 1/2 weeks.....BUT all is not good....yes, they like it here, but Dad was admitted to the hospital on Friday afternoon...He is a very sick man....Congestive heart failure, COPD, emphasema (sp), renal failure, diabetic......He is in a "step down" unit and on high doses of O2...he was running a fever, but it is down and they believe that the infection is going away based on blood counts....he is on high doses of antibiotics and steroids.....the hard part is the treatment for CHF and fluid on the lungs is contrary for renal failure....he is being followed by the new pcp, cardiologist, pulmonologist, nephrologist, respiratory therapy!!!!  It is very sad and scarey......not sure that he will be going home anytime soon....too sick for that....the first step to get him out of the hospital is to get him stable and then maybe to a Long Term Acute Care Hospital....he is too sick for even rehab...and a lot of the problem is the amount of O2 that he needs.  he started on O2 about 2 weeks ago.....Tonight isn't one of his better nights...he doesn't seem all that oriented...he just asked me what he is waiting for, so I asked him what he meant and he asked why he was in this room...so I reminded him why he was moved off the general cardiac/vascular room to here.....I am so happy that my parents are around the corner from me now, but I never imagined that Dad would get sooo sick sooo soon after moving here.....

  • chrisct
    chrisct Member Posts: 2,662
    edited May 2013

    ((((((Karen))))))

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