anyone starting chemo in Nov 2005
Options
Comments
-
Please tell me if you think this is strange.
I finished Rads last Thursday. So to celebrate my life, and the end of this long journey, I called two of my girlfriends to have dinner and drinks.
They were all for it. The two of them had brought food and sent cards as well when I was at my worst in the very beginning. {Nov. 2005.} In fact one is my boss, and the other was my boss before her.
I have always shared everything with them. The good, the bad, and the ugly.
Well, the night started off with one of them picking me up to go meet the other. We got to the restaurant, sat on the balcony and ordered our food and drinks.
They were uneasy because it was quiet, and they felt that the other people were listening to our conversation. I was just happy to be in the moment and feeling the celebration of life.
Then the drinks came, they didn't like theirs. More complaining. I had one drink, white russian, they complained about that.
Food came, and one was talking about her sister who had lost weight, 50 lbs on Weight Watchers. How she knew how many points everything had. I had been doing WW before my dx, and knew about points, so I responded that it just becomes a habit once you know what foods are what points.
One girl looked at me and my plate and said, "How many points in that". I was celebrating one of the most important times in my life, and now I feel guilty about what I'm eating. All I had eaten was eggbeaters that day, and said so. Then one says "WOW" eggbeaters, sounds good, and looked at each other and laughed.
I lost my appetite. Most of this time, one or the other was on the cell phone.
Then we returned to one of the girls house. She put on wrestling for us to watch. What!
Then there was more phone talk, and talk between them about life. I wanted to leave, but had no car!
Was being picked up by my husband after he got off from work. I felt so miss placed. Hello, this was to be MY night!
And the big thing of the night, was I shared a story of this journey, about telling my husband that now that I'm all talkative again, that he may want to put me back into the bed where I was anything but talkative.
And that he said, with tears in his eyes, no Mary, I never want to see you sick like that again. It is so good to hear you laugh , and talk. I got choked up, and as soon as I did, they jumped in and said lets talk about something not so depressing. I had not told them anything before about how I was feeling. So it wasn't like I was on that subject "again".
I have wanted to send an email, because I've been upset. Even now, and it's been 3 days. Should I? Or just let it go. I will return to work someday. So , I wanted her to know how I felt hurt. Please help me understand this. Gentle please. Did I over react?
Also said, I should leave my hair short and GRAY! Why? So I can feel even older. I can't move in the mornings as it is from treatments.
Do you have a similar story? -
Mary Lou - It sounds like they were uncomfortable and maybe a bit afraid of all the emotions cancer tends to bring up. Perphaps all the distractions with the phone calls was their way of keeping things light and less intimate. It does not sound like they were ready or able to get into a very "deep" conversation. Just my opinion, I'm no therapist.
Interesting you bring up this topic. I received a phone call tonight from an old friend who dissapeared after I told her about the bc dx. She says she did not know when would be a good time to call me. Wow...in the 20 years I've known her she never had a problem calling me before. Interesting how folks react differently to us after this bc experience. Even more interesting, I think, is how we react to them. Life will never be the same. -
Odalys- Wow, the part about not knowing when to call. I said that my phone wouldn't ring for 3 weeks at a time from a friend.
And one of the girls said they didn't know when to call. Well, I didn't want to call them. My life was the same. Day after day.
I wish I could have worked all through my treatment. I would have been able to keep up with the loop. But these girls could have sent email, hmmmmmm. Something else to ponder. -
Sometimes our cancer is quite inconvenient for other people. They can't quite be sympathetic without feeling pity. They have to think of their own mortality or want to KNOW it can't happen to them. Or, in the case of my MIL, having the attention shift to someone else is detrimental to their ego and it won't be tolerated.
My best friend lives in FLorida, so we don't see each other much. Her aunt died young from bc, her mom was diagnosed young and survived. So she finally comes out to see me and we were talking about how I found the lump and I asked her if she was getting regular exams and mammos because of her family history and she said "Well, don't you think you got the cancer because you used to heat up your food in the microwave?"
What??? I forgive her. I figure she is scared out of her mind since she is single, supporting 2 kids on her own. Since dx I forgive most and ignore the rest. And it really makes me appreciate all the love and support from family and friends. It takes a fabulous person to take the risk to reach out.
You'll be ok Mary- don't fret! -
Quote:
Since dx I forgive most and ignore the rest. And it really makes me appreciate all the love and support from family and friends.
I couldn't agree more. This experience matures us and changes our perspective in life forever. I think we become better human beings because of it. -
I will practice that: forgiving most and ignoring the rest. I like that.
Mary Lou, it sounds like you had a real bummer of an evening. I hope you take that dear husband of yours out for dinner instead. He sounds like he deserves it.
I agree, friends just don't know how to deal with us.
I came home from LE therapy this morning and my hub told me my dear friend Janice had called. Janice, who I haven't spoken with since two weeks after I told her about my diagnosis. I was really hesitant to call, but now I feel stronger somehow. Knowing I am not alone in this feeling sure helps. Forgive most and ignore the rest. It gives me something to strive toward.
About the hair color, as long as you don't use anything too harsh....? right? I don't know. Mine used to be blondish, and I figure it will get blondish once it gets longer (ever?), but for now it looks sort of mousy. I was thinking of getting some of that stuff that makes it spikey...It's almost long enough for spikey, but not anything else. No, I take that back, it's just about long enough to make me look like a boy with short hair.
Hugs, Anna -
MaryLou, I am sorry you didn't have a good night out celebrating. This was your night to celebrate and I am sorry your friends didn't see that. I bet talking about your bc journey was the last thing you wanted to talk about.
I have a friend who vanished from the face of the earth after she found out about my diag. I run into her at the store or mall and she says she is always thinking of me and praying but doesn't call because she doesn't know what to see. Arg, then send me an email saying you are thinking about me.
I asked my onc. today if I can color my hair and he said yes, but dh doens't want me to put chemicals on my head. Oh well.
We are all thinking about you Deb, can't wait to "see" you again on the boards.
Odalys, yes the kids are driving me crazy. We didn't put them in camp this summer. I've heard "I'm bored", lol!! They do keep us busy especially when soccer brings us out of the house 4 nights a week.
I have to tell you all that I am so glad that we are still posting on this thread especially since most of us have finished chemo. I couldn't see continuing this journey w/o you guys.
Hope you are all having a good week.
Kim -
Anna and Nancy,
Sorry it took me this long to get to your questions about the hair color. I just remembered...yikes. Can I still blame it on chemo brain or is the grace period over on this excuse? LOL!!!!
Anyway, the first color I used turned red/orange. Yuck!!! So I went back to using Clairol's Hydriance color # 48. I wanted to stay with the dark brown since that is my natural color. Hydriance is a little more gentle on your scalp since it is water based. It has always worked for me and I really did not want to experiment at this point. Have to tell you though, coloring hair that is 1/4 inch to 1 inch long is challenging. I had to be very careful not to get dye around the face and neck. DH kept wiping the back of my neck using a tissue and some hand cream to get rid of the stains. As for the scalp, it did get some color but I really dont mind since it made my head look full of hair. Overall, it was well worth it. Everyone tells me I look younger. Who would have known the G.I. Jane look would have this effect?
Have fun with your new look! -
Quote:
I have to tell you all that I am so glad that we are still posting on this thread especially since most of us have finished chemo. I couldn't see continuing this journey w/o you guys.
Me too, I look forward to checking this board at least once a day. What a pleasure to share other aspects of our lives with you. Love you all!!! -
I never want to stop posting here. Life will always be full of things to chat about. Thanks for responding to my "Friends" post.
As for the hair, I will wait a little longer. Maybe the forth of July week..... I may need a change by then. I'm thinking of a night out on the town
Wish you all could be there! -
Love ML -
What do you all think?
-
Looking good! I think it's a keeper.
-
Did you make it?
Anna -
And as for continuing to post: I feel very connected to everyone here and would like to continue hearing how things are going for each of us. We have been through some real bad stuff together, and when I talk to some of the women in my support group at the local hospital, I realize how helpful these threads have actually been. I learn so much from all of you, and all your stories have enriched me immeasurably.
So,
Can't wait till our Debbie comes back
and our Kaye, too.
Love to all,
Anna -
Yes, has anyone heard from Deb? I hope she is doing well and I miss her posts.
I have great news! I cried when I found out. My brain MRI and PET/CT all came back normal/NED!! I have been wondering since I was dx in October, huge relief. Saw my ENT today and he tried his best to talk me out of getting my thyroid removed. I have a goiter, biopsy shows some weird but non-cancerous cells. Sx was scheduled for next week. So I decided to wait on it and just monitor it for now. Since everything else is being watched closely, what's one more thing? It was an emotional decision to let it go- once bitten (lump) twice shy.
I hope everyone is doing well and the good luck is contageous. It's kind of like war buddies going thru this together!! Take care everyone!! -
I'm so glad I checked in here before going to bed. Margerie, there will be some thank you prayers said tonight!
Love, Anna -
I agree Anna, I can't just up and leave this board. It is a part of my life now, and all of you are such great sisters.
We all must meet at some point in the future. I would love to have a week end just relaxing with all of you.
I wish I had a really large house near the water. And a plane to fly everyone in......LOL, did I drift off?
All joking aside, I do think we should try to meet some how, somewhere. Margerie, I was so glad to hear your news!!!!
Debbie , we miss you. And Kaye too. Both of you are in our prayers. Where is Lat56?????
Anna- I did the avatar myself. I had to make the picture so small, but it turned out to be just right when I posted it here.
I have had a great day today. Went shopping, and my oldest son came in for a short visit. We stayed up tonight and laughed, and laughed. It was good for my soul~~~~~
It is late now, and they want to go out for breakfast at Shoneys. Better get some sleep.
((((HUGS)))) -
Margerie, congratulations!!!!!! We are all celebrating with you.
ML glad you had a great day yesterday. Sounds like a lot of fun.
Hope Kaye is doing ok.
Deb we miss you.
Would love to see some of the sisters that started this November journey with us post.
Kim -
Yes, I would love to meet all of you. And it would be great to catch up with the gals active in the beginning of this thread. I was a late joiner.
I know I am not centrally located, but I would love to offer to host a get-together. We have warm weather April-October, a pool and spa, views galore and lots of privacy at our place. We live near beaches, lakes, hiking, wineries. We are in central california on the coast.
I could have hubby take the kids to Disneyland for the weekend. He loves "adventures" with the kids.
Anyway, we should plan something. I have reconstruction in September, but the rest of the year is open. Ad I'm game to go anywhere. Saving those frequent flyer miles!
Hoping to hear from Deb and Kaye too. -
Margerie - I am so happy for you. I wish I could reach out and give you a big HUG!!!! So gratious of you to host our get together.
Yes, I would love to meet you all somewhere. It would be great if we could plan a weekend at some hotel (mid point) and just kick back and hang out together. Can you just picture us in a spa???? Ha, between the chemo jokes and the rads jokes they would probably kick us out.
On a more serious subject, has anyone traveled with their port? I am flying out on Sat and am so afraid of setting off the metal detector. Is that possible or is it just my paranoia?
Just want to share with you the feedback I've gotten about my hair. I had no idea the short hair would turn so many heads! The men are flocking to my office to tell me how hot I look. The majority didn't even know I had on a wig or that I was battling bc. They are in shock when I tell them. DH is so cute, he said he thinks he needs to join a gym because I am stopping traffic and there is just too much competition out there. Had I known I was going to get this much attention I would have cut my hair a long time ago.
You are all so great. Love you all.
Odalys -
Odalys I haven't traveled with the port but have gone through a medal detector. It didn't set it off. I had asked my onc. ahead of time and he said it would set it off. Did you post a picture of your "new hair". If you did, I missed it.
Margerie, I am so there!!!
OH!! Guess what I got from Mr. Postman today. -
Margerie, Such wonderful news!!!!!!!!! Prayers do get answered.
And thanks for the invite, your the sweetest person:)
Odlays, we need a picture of the hair~~~~~~~~~~~ So glad you're having fun with the new do! LOL
Kim! You lucky dog About the port, can I swim? I 'm going to join the YMCA, but keep forgetting to ask about it.
Debbie
WE LOVE YOU AND MISS YOU , always in our prayers -
My birthday is January 12, 1956. What is yours?
I also would like to send a card to each of you, on your birthday, because each one we have from now on is such a blessing.
And all of you are such a blessing to me.
Please email me your address, if you don't mind....
ML -
Hey all, I finished regular rads today and will set up for the boosts on Monday and then boosts start on Tuesday. Still in lots of pain in the collarbone area. Creams and gel packs are helping, a little.
MaryLou that is such a wonderful idea. Can you forward that information once you have it all.
Deb, you know we are thinking of you.
Has anyone check out Kaye's website lately. I don't remember the address. Maybe I'll try and look back and find it. Maybe some info there about her.
hugs and prayers,
Kim -
Kim I will email Kaye and see how she is. I have been meaning to for weeks, and just didn't remember till now.
Love to you all!!!!!!
Where are you Debbie? We miss you....... -
Starting to get nervous about my stage II revisions next week, especially about the whole IV-in-foot/no-BP-cuff-on-arm thing.
I'm seeing my lymphedema therapist today and on Thursday. She is going to give me compression garments to wear after the surgery. I am going to call PS office to ask if I may wear them during the surgery as well, that would keep people off my arms for sure.
I need to learn how to take my BP on my leg so I can teach my doctors/other medical personnel how to do that.
Herceptin is going well for me thus far. I really need to get out and exercise more, though. Are any of you doing that successfully? Have any of you re-joined your aerobic or other groups?
Are any of you still kind of wiped out? No motivation to do things?
Anna -
Hi Anna,
Are you having flap revisions? This would be your last surgery right? Do you have LE? Sorry for the forty questions! Maybe you can buy yourself a special leg cuff to practice with and then take to your appointments. I read on here one gal made her own patient gown she brings to hers. That is a great idea- too bad I don't sew because I would probably get to use it 20 times a year!
I would get those compression sleeves if you can. I was at the lake this weekend and saw a gal with a fuschia colored sleeve- I assume for LE.
When I had my ooph, I wrote with marker in big letters "NO PROCEDURES THIS ARM" on my left arm. I woke up from surgery and the recovery nurse was laughing at me for writing "a story" on my arm as she was putting the cuff on my affected arm. The surgery nurse told her to read the story. She said "But I wasn't going to do a procedure!" Arggghhh. Next time maybe I will get a sleeve.
I even went to the Revlon Breast Center in Los Angeles, where they exclusively treat breast cancer patients, and the nurse grabbed my left arm to take my bp without asking.
Anyway, I am doing well energy wise. I do not make it past 9:30 most nights. I do some weight bearing exercise, swimming and hiking. I definitely notice I am more wimpy than pre-bc when I hike. I worry about muscle wasting, etc. since I am in menopause/arimidex.
Deb is on the mend, in case anyone hasn't heard. Hopefully she will pop in here soon.
I hope everyone is enjoying their summer. I am staining our concrete porches this week. Kids have summer school- so I am trying to get it done.
Margerie -
Yes, Margerie, I am getting nipples and some "tweaks" it seems.
I don't have full-blown LE, but as my therapist says, "there's been some loud knocking at the door." I do MDM every day and now go in to see the therapist only once in a while to check my measurements and to make sure everything is under control. I should get my garments by Saturday, so will ask my PS if I may wear them during the surgery. I have looked online to find a leg BP cuff, but haven't had any succeess so far. Can you believe I haven't had my BP read accurately since the port surgery in October last year? Nobody seems to care too much, though. Trouble is they're sure to care in the OR.
Good luck with the porch staining. What color?
My PCP ordered a FSH test and it came back elevated, so it seems I am indeed finally menopausal. That in turn means I can get an AI after finishing Herceptin. My oncologist is talking about Femara. I don't know what difference there is between Femara and Arimidex.
Our summer has been ultra thunderstormy thus far. Lots of flooding in neighboring counties with people's houses being condemned due to flood damage. Yikes! It's still June, right?
Hugs to all,
Anna -
Anna,
coloring the porch brown (better than light grey!) I am procrastinating- can you tell? Having bilateral diep stage 1 in Sept- yikes!
would the thigh cuff work?
http://www.ocelco.com/store/pc/viewCat_h.asp?idCategory=734
Categories
- All Categories
- 679 Advocacy and Fund-Raising
- 289 Advocacy
- 68 I've Donated to Breastcancer.org in honor of....
- Test
- 322 Walks, Runs and Fundraising Events for Breastcancer.org
- 5.6K Community Connections
- 282 Middle Age 40-60(ish) Years Old With Breast Cancer
- 53 Australians and New Zealanders Affected by Breast Cancer
- 208 Black Women or Men With Breast Cancer
- 684 Canadians Affected by Breast Cancer
- 1.5K Caring for Someone with Breast cancer
- 455 Caring for Someone with Stage IV or Mets
- 260 High Risk of Recurrence or Second Breast Cancer
- 22 International, Non-English Speakers With Breast Cancer
- 16 Latinas/Hispanics With Breast Cancer
- 189 LGBTQA+ With Breast Cancer
- 152 May Their Memory Live On
- 85 Member Matchup & Virtual Support Meetups
- 375 Members by Location
- 291 Older Than 60 Years Old With Breast Cancer
- 177 Singles With Breast Cancer
- 869 Young With Breast Cancer
- 50.4K Connecting With Others Who Have a Similar Diagnosis
- 204 Breast Cancer with Another Diagnosis or Comorbidity
- 4K DCIS (Ductal Carcinoma In Situ)
- 79 DCIS plus HER2-positive Microinvasion
- 529 Genetic Testing
- 2.2K HER2+ (Positive) Breast Cancer
- 1.5K IBC (Inflammatory Breast Cancer)
- 3.4K IDC (Invasive Ductal Carcinoma)
- 1.5K ILC (Invasive Lobular Carcinoma)
- 999 Just Diagnosed With a Recurrence or Metastasis
- 652 LCIS (Lobular Carcinoma In Situ)
- 193 Less Common Types of Breast Cancer
- 252 Male Breast Cancer
- 86 Mixed Type Breast Cancer
- 3.1K Not Diagnosed With a Recurrence or Metastases but Concerned
- 189 Palliative Therapy/Hospice Care
- 488 Second or Third Breast Cancer
- 1.2K Stage I Breast Cancer
- 313 Stage II Breast Cancer
- 3.8K Stage III Breast Cancer
- 2.5K Triple-Negative Breast Cancer
- 13.1K Day-to-Day Matters
- 132 All things COVID-19 or coronavirus
- 87 BCO Free-Cycle: Give or Trade Items Related to Breast Cancer
- 5.9K Clinical Trials, Research News, Podcasts, and Study Results
- 86 Coping with Holidays, Special Days and Anniversaries
- 828 Employment, Insurance, and Other Financial Issues
- 101 Family and Family Planning Matters
- Family Issues for Those Who Have Breast Cancer
- 26 Furry friends
- 1.8K Humor and Games
- 1.6K Mental Health: Because Cancer Doesn't Just Affect Your Breasts
- 706 Recipe Swap for Healthy Living
- 704 Recommend Your Resources
- 171 Sex & Relationship Matters
- 9 The Political Corner
- 874 Working on Your Fitness
- 4.5K Moving On & Finding Inspiration After Breast Cancer
- 394 Bonded by Breast Cancer
- 3.1K Life After Breast Cancer
- 806 Prayers and Spiritual Support
- 285 Who or What Inspires You?
- 28.7K Not Diagnosed But Concerned
- 1K Benign Breast Conditions
- 2.3K High Risk for Breast Cancer
- 18K Not Diagnosed But Worried
- 7.4K Waiting for Test Results
- 603 Site News and Announcements
- 560 Comments, Suggestions, Feature Requests
- 39 Mod Announcements, Breastcancer.org News, Blog Entries, Podcasts
- 4 Survey, Interview and Participant Requests: Need your Help!
- 61.9K Tests, Treatments & Side Effects
- 586 Alternative Medicine
- 255 Bone Health and Bone Loss
- 11.4K Breast Reconstruction
- 7.9K Chemotherapy - Before, During, and After
- 2.7K Complementary and Holistic Medicine and Treatment
- 775 Diagnosed and Waiting for Test Results
- 7.8K Hormonal Therapy - Before, During, and After
- 50 Immunotherapy - Before, During, and After
- 7.4K Just Diagnosed
- 1.4K Living Without Reconstruction After a Mastectomy
- 5.2K Lymphedema
- 3.6K Managing Side Effects of Breast Cancer and Its Treatment
- 591 Pain
- 3.9K Radiation Therapy - Before, During, and After
- 8.4K Surgery - Before, During, and After
- 109 Welcome to Breastcancer.org
- 98 Acknowledging and honoring our Community
- 11 Info & Resources for New Patients & Members From the Team