I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited January 2013

    To clarify my state's gun laws:

    My state does not regulate rifles or shotguns and no permit is required to own a rifle or shotgun.  While possession of a regulated firearm is prohibited by persons convicted of a disqualifying crime, or, among other things, has a mental disorder and a history of violent behavior, rifles and shotguns are not regulated firearms.  Hence, Crazy gets to keep his guns and shoot up the neighborhood.  Lovely.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2013

    Lindasa~I think the reason I don't wake up from Unisom with that college hangover feeling is because for many years before taking it, I used to take the Benadryl type sleep meds, so my system was prepared for it. I actually wake up quite refreshed. I usually sleep about 6-7 hours, but its good sleep.



    I tried trazadon a few years ago. About 15 minutes after taking it I would find myself unable to function for about 20 minutes. At the time my DH went to work very early in the morning, so I packed his lunch at night. One night a few minutes after taking the trazadon, I found that it took every bit of my concentration to make a pb&j sandwich. Then I couldn't go to sleep for at least an hour for hearing my heart pounding in my ear. I'd sleep really soundly for about 3 hours and then be wide awake. Funny how something that works so good for some can be so detrimental to others.



    I'm hoping that after beating this bug or whatever I had the past week & 1/2, my WBC will be high enough for me to get AC #3 tomorrow. I'm dreading it, but at the same time I want to see it in my rearview mirror.



    Blue~I'd love to move to Canada. You're right, we're a mess. I'm disappointed in all our leaders for the first time in my 62 years. That goes for the conservatives as well as the liberals. I'd like to kick John Boehner.



    Christian conservative old hippy

    Paula

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited January 2013

    Your ex-PM is a wise and courageous man, two qualities, alas, that the pro-NRA Republicans in the US Congress lack.

  • GatorGal
    GatorGal Member Posts: 2,550
    edited January 2013

    Guns scare me. They always have. My DH and I would never have one in our home. Yet my oldest son has 3 guns that he says he needs to protect his family. An alarm system would work better IMO. Youngest son (the one with all the problems that I have spoken about) wants a semi automatic weapon before they are banned. Fortunately he doesn't have the means to get one. They both have always had a fascination with the "killer" video games which I never allowed in our home. Their friends all seem to be gun rights activists. My step-father is one of those survivalist nuts who has guns hidden all over his house, along with food for 5 years and drums of diesel stored in his barn. He is 82 and scary. Luckily he lives wayyyy off the beaten track in rural Florida so no chance of running into him. He makes my mom take a gun to church with her when she goes at night. Bring on the gun laws. There are too many crazies out there who put the rest of us in danger!!

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited January 2013

    Glenna, taking a gun to church reminded me that the foyerof Danish churches is called "the weapons room," because in the good old days, you were supposed to leave your weapons there before entering the church.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited January 2013

    Bah, deleted. Will rephrase more openly.

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited January 2013

    Move to Canada? Paula-you may have just earned yourself a "do not return" card to other threads. Tongue Out Glad to hear you're feeling better. 

    The only sleep meds I've ever tried are clonazepam when I was first diagnosed with BC, and I've also tried melatonin. Both worked well, but the melatonin gave me diarrhea. I'm fortunate in that I don't have a lot of sleep issues at this point in my life. 

    Freezing cold here in Seattle-about 28 right now-but clear and sunny. I'll take that over rain any day.

    Mary

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited January 2013

    Last time I looked, it is pretty difficult to move to Canada....much more than in the 1970's, when I actually got as far as meeting with the Canadian Consulate in SF.  Then, I just needed a sponser.

    On another topic:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/nov/08/animalrights.sciencenews

    I've always had to avert my eyes and could never dream of throwing a live "animal" in boiling water, but so many don't have a problem with it.  

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited January 2013

    More on what Rachel Maddow said about trolls last night, and the more I think of it the more she makes sense and that is why, while one should take extremist views seriously, one shouldn't take too much serious umbrage at everything said out there.

    She listed several people she called trolls, including congressman Peter King, who recently displayed a model of a wall with electric wires in congress to show how a non-lethal electric current could be powered to dissuade Mexicans from crossing the border. He mentioned that such wires are used to startle cows.

    She also mentioned Herman Cain, saying I forgot what. The image of Ann Coulter came up (I agree - she is not a thinker, just a provocateur - or provocateuse?)There was also an image of very blond man with a red face - don't know who that is, as Breitbart is dead. Also, Allen West....and then, finally, the NRA (as I said last night) with its commercial about the Obama girls.

    Her point was that these political/media figures may not necessarily believe what they say but a small segment of the population will become their devotees because of it. Their main objective, Maddow said, is to increase ratings/votes/clicks, incur the wrath of liberals and, as a result, create ardent followers in the extreme right.

    I think the man who created the so-called "unskewed polls" during the election campaign was probably looking for clicks, notoriety, etc... and would meet Maddow's definition of a troll. He was not really seeking to put forward a good faith cause. It was funny. What was scary was that some members of the public took him seriously.

    I would say the "trolls" could be compared to cult leaders who attempt to recruit and retain people on the basis of philosophy or religion but who really just want power and money and barely believe anything they say. Eg: David Koresh, or scientology leaders.

    Not trolls (true nutsos): Michelle Bachman, IMO.

    Rush Limbaugh: a bit of both.

    Karl Rove? "May he rest in peace." Probably stuck in a torture chamber somewhere courtesy of the Koch brothers.Tongue Out

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited January 2013

    Paula, hope Mary is wrong, but I have to admit that I was happy to read your entry.  I think it is the one thing -- other than perhaps our President to be able in time to get agreement on his proposals and executive orders,to have our Conservative sisters and friends see that we are for the sensible regulations. 

    I saw it over and over and over again yesterday and it seems to me to boil down to just a couple of things:

    1.  You can't tell me what to do, because I have my own ideas......and that could be ok but they are so extreme as to be totally out of touch.

    2.  There is big money to be made and if many of the reports are true...ang gun stores are doing the business they say, there should be some very happy people ( way upper level ) in the NRA.

    In watching my favorite un-named program last night it was pointed out how the upper level echelon are put into place in the NRA.  They are not actually elected but chosen....turning up to be VERY big wing-nuts.  I hope I do not have this wrong, but that is the way it came across to me.

    All that being said, I am in agreement with the article Belinda cited.  No matter how discouraging it may seem at times, the extremists will not be able to carry it all.  They will cause enough ruckus to be confusing ( that indeed is how they often get much of their power ) and may do well in the short run of time.  Their platform --- built on the backs of innocents now, does not and has not had a solid foundation.  It is good common sense ( not the hysterics of it is the criminals doing the damage ) that will have the foundation to carry us through.  There is room for everyone -- but no man is a law unto himself as is no NRA.  There are some good people in the NRA.  It is too bad they don't break free of the extremists and temple money makers, and put something in place where they would have a real voice. 

    It was wonderful to hear the voice of reason, sense and sensibility yesterday during the Presidents' speech and to see our hard-working VP. Biden as well.  What a great team.

    Jackie

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited January 2013

    Athena...have always like what Rachel Maddow has to say.  She and others on that show ( I really enjoyed Lawrence O'Donnell last night as well ) are what tend to settle me down after some of the 'extremist' slings and arrows.  Reasonable people can get together and end up with reasonable solutions.  It should be obvious that a few nutso types ( even though it jingles the nerves of those listening ) will not make the cut in the end. I'm always amazed that they seem to not have a clue about their minority status.  I think many of the extremists should be dropped in a pit......and have no other company that each other.  Soon there just might be silence. No audience - no game.

    Jackie

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited January 2013

    My DH is a liberal, but has been upset with Obama for a long time. If it hadn't been for nutcase Ryan being on the ticket, he would have voted for Romney. Instead he wrote in Paul Watson, the Sea Shepherd captain! Hahahaha, I loved it! We are big SS supporters. Anyway, President Obama's stance on gun control has completely turned him around. He's very proud that we finally have a president willing to stand up to the NRA terrorists. Good news for me is that I can openly watch a lot more pro-Obama programs like Maddow and O'Donnell. Laughing

    I had a weird night. I woke up this morning and told my DH I was so happy that I hadn't coughed all night and thought the cold was over. He looked at me like I was crazy. Seems I had a giant coughing and gagging fit in the middle of the night. I went into the bathroom coughing uncontrollably. He was so worried that he stood outside the bathroom checking on me. But I don't remember any of it! I had some kind of black-out! A little later I'm off for some Mucinex. Been blowing for hours and the congestion just doesn't stop.

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited January 2013

    I'm in "Mad Scientist" mode today.  Gonna get these stimulator levels at perfection levels (in my dreams), but if it doesn't kill me it will definitely make me laugh!  I suggest the site "luminosity" for those who cannot think for themselves. The brain is plastic! hahahahha!

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited January 2013
  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited January 2013

    Jon Stewart was eye opening last night.  I am sure that some will call his NRA/ATF connections 'bunk'...but just google to find out how sinister the whole gun business really is.  As usual, it is all about the money.

    Paula, we can meet you at the border...just tell us which one!Cool

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited January 2013

    And I have an extra bedroom, complete with sitting room!

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited January 2013
  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited January 2013

    From Mediaite, re last night's Daily Show:

    Stewart mocked the NRA ad calling out Obama for hypocrisy due to his kids having security guards, adding to their concerns “Why does he get to veto bills and command an army when we don’t?” He credited the organization for giving the national conversation on guns a “deplorable start,” surmising that the organization is either Joaquin Phoenix-esque performance art or a Michael Moore-run covert operation to make gun owners look stupid.

    Stewart contrasted Obama’s measured response to the NRA ad with what he should have said: “if you bring up my kids again, I will drone strike you to kingdom come.”

    Despite the fact that Obama supports the same school security plan the NRA wanted, his announcement was widely panned by the pro-gun crowd. In particular, Stewart highlighted one former Republican congressman named Todd Tiahrt saying that the nation already has the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms to go after criminals.

    Stewart went through all the reasons why this was an absurd statement, from the fact that the Senate hasn’t approved a director in six years, the fact that the current acting director has another job and running the ATF is just a “side gig,” and how the ATF is prohibited from creating a federal registry to track gun sales. Stewart asked incredulously, “was it getting too easy to police illegal guns?”

    And which Republican congressman pushed for an amendment to strip the ATF of the powers the NRA would like it to have? None other than Todd Tiahrt. Stewart remarked that his amendment “couldn’t be worse if the NRA wrote it themselves.” Well, guess what.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited January 2013

    "Mad scientist" away, Blue!

    I'm staying in the US. I wager that we've always been this nutty - reading Civil War history certainly suggests as much.

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited January 2013

    Oh, if they only knew how crazy we Canadians are!  Wink (Written in our secret Canadian code so that the Americans will not understand the message.  Our secret will remain safe)

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited January 2013

    I know I'm nuts!  And proud of it!

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited January 2013

    That's why they call you Canucks - and your feds "Mounties" Tongue Out

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited January 2013

    Blue, do you remember the time we lured all those American ladies over the border and replaced them with Canadian bots? Our plan is working so well.Cool

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2013

    I'd be happy to learn ALL the words to Oh, Canada...

    Kay - I've been reading the same thing about natural sleep cycles, and I definitely can see the 4 hour cycle sometimes.  LOVE going to sleep early ( 8:30) reading for a long time, until my eyes are closing, waking up with day light.  Well, a little earlier now that sun sleeps in til 7:15.

    Garden - I know my SE's lessened mainly because of a few things: ACUPUNCTURE, monthly massage, getting my Vitamin D up from low teens to 63 ( yeah,me) NO SUGAR, NO DAIRY, calcium/magnesium, no processed foods, lotsa green tea all day every day, and keeping moving...even paint standing at an easel now.  Hope you find the same thing.  My first year, almost into 2nd year were, well, worse than awful, wrist splints 24/7.

    Haven't been to Canada in about 40 years - but rememer loving Toronto when I visited.

    PRESIDENT OBAMA I love hearing him speak, know he thinks and THEN speaks, and honor his thoughtfulness.  Smile at folks who criticize his use of teleprompters, HE IS A WRITER, poor Jon Favreau, or who ever is drafting his speeches now, have you even SEEN them after President Obama gets done with editing one Smile  More handwriting than original typing.  He is SPEAKING HIS OWN WORDS from a teleprompter, he is thoughtful, KNOWS the impact of his words, and when he's extemporaneous, he's still SO intelligent.  OK, and there's that SMILE.  Oh, that smile. PRESIDENT OBAMA.

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited January 2013

    Our President.  For all Americans.  Even those who didn't vote for him.

    (just thought I'd drive that point home)

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2013

    Yes, E, the President of the United States.  So easy to be Patriotic now...excited about the new people who will be serving in the cabinet too.

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited January 2013

    And today in Ohio:

    MONTVILLE TWP. — Mary Kuruc and her two adult daughters had just left the kitchen when the second bullet came through the wall and ripped into their microwave. 

    Kuruc’s colonial home at 2907 Parnham Drive was one of two houses hit twice Wednesday afternoon by bullets fired from an AK-47 assault rifle about a third of a mile away, police said. 

    Police arrested the shooters, who said they were target-practicing. 

    Kuruc, 55, said it was lucky no one was hit. 

    “There are usually kids around here,” she said. “Someone could have been hurt. You just don’t expect this to happen on a Wednesday afternoon.” 

    (snip) 

    Montville police Sgt. Matthew Neil agreed.

    Read more: http://medinagazette.northcoastnow.com/2013/01/17/shots-hit-montville-houses/ 

  • gardengumby
    gardengumby Member Posts: 7,305
    edited January 2013

    Thanks, Sunflowers.  I eat pretty well for low inflammation (no grain, no dairy (other than plain yoghurt on occasion), only sugar from fruit (though when I was in Hawaii I was eating ice cream.... so go figure.... Wink), never eat processed foods or fast food), take D3 religiously, do massage every other week.  I need to start acupuncture.  I move around quite a bit, but, of course when I'm at work (sitting in front of a computer screen) I don't move nearly as much as I'd like.  I'll add calcium/magnesium to my morning ritual.  I drink a ton of tea, but simply cannot abide green tea.  Though I did find a jasmine/green that I like just fine, so I think I'll give that one a shot for awhile, and see if I can stand it over the long haul.

    As for President Obama, yes, I am so very very glad he was re-elected.  I think he is a fine leader of our country, and am looking forward to the next four years.

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited January 2013

    Yes Pip I remember and hopefully, we can let them in again to replace the batteries. 

    I still think luminosity or gamesville are very useful.  I'm still in mad mad mad scientist mode, and getting madder by the minute!  Frankenstein has nothing on me!

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