I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2013

    Anybody here seen my old friend Abraham?

    Can you tell me where he's gone?

    He freed lotta people but it seems,

    The good they die young.

    You know I just looked around and he's gone.



    Anybody here seen my old friend John?

    Can you tell me where he's gone?

    He freed lotta people but it seems,

    The good they die young.

    I just looked around and he's gone.



    Instrumental break.



    Anybody here seen my old friend Martin?

    Can you tell me where he's gone?

    He freed lotta people but it seems,

    The good they die young.

    Find more similar lyrics on http://mp3lyrics.com/xlsr

    I just looked around and he's gone.



    Didn't you love the things that they stood for?

    Didn't they try to find some good for you and me?

    And we'll be free,

    Some day soon, it's gonna be one day.



    Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?

    Can you tell me where he's gone?

    I thought I saw him walkin' up over the hill.

    With Abraham and Martin and John.



    ABRAHAM, MARTIN & JOHN

    Written by: Richard (Dick) Holler

    Performed by: Dion

    Appears on: Dion-1968, AM Gold: 1968 (Various Artists)-1990,

    The Best Of Dion-2001, et al.

  • Belinda44
    Belinda44 Member Posts: 718
    edited March 2013

    Jackie, I love that song!

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited January 2013

    One of my close pals in first year was from Cleveland.  He and I listened to that song over and over.  It usually brought tears to our eyes.......still does.  Thanks Paula.

  • Chickadee
    Chickadee Member Posts: 4,467
    edited January 2013

    Love that song.



    Lance lives here south of Austin, so lots of really disappointed folks. Livestrong is trying very hard to keep their focus on cancer and hopes this doesn't destroy their efforts. The Mayor says there are no plans to rename the Lance Armstrong Bikeway here as he said its purpose is to encourage everyone on the cancer journey.



    I am very disappointed and did love cheering him on once upon a time.

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited January 2013

    Belinda - I think I recorded the Oprah interview, but didn't know it was 2 parts, so thanks.  I haven't missed a Tour de France since Miguel Indurian won his first yellow jersey in 1991.  I'm a huge Tour de France fan.  Beyond the bike riding, it is the best aerial tour of the most beautiful parts of France you will ever see.  I won't lie, the best tours for me were when Lance was involved and winning...not necessarily because of Lance, but because his teams were always so talented and I loved the strategy (and his teamate George Hincapie).  Lance, without drugs, would have still been a spectacular athelete.  I've always thought him to be a bit too arrogant, but now he seems more like the Intimadator.

    GG - Have you ever tried a product called DoMatch Green Tea Powder?

    http://www.amazon.com/DoMatcha-Organic-Harvest-Matcha-2-82-Ounce/dp/B003O7T87C/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1358482071&sr=8-2&keywords=DoMatcha+Green+tea

    Supposedly, less than a teaspoon of this powder is equivalent to 10 servings of green tea. I put it in smoothies.  Not sure what you don't like about green tea, but if I mix it with greens and fruits, I don't even taste it.  If I make it with coconut water and frozen bananas, it's like a Starbucks Green Tea Frappe.  (You don't want the ceremonial, the 2nd harvest has more medicinal qualities.....they also have non-organic for less $$.)

  • CherrylH
    CherrylH Member Posts: 1,077
    edited January 2013

    Thanks, Paula, I love that song.

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited January 2013

    I was just watching the evening parade of idiots raving about the president's proposals.  I don't get it.  i really don't.  We regulate cars. We regulate appliances. We regulate food additives, for gods sake.  As Jon Stewart said the other night, a gun owner can legally sell a gun to a drunk, and the only time law enforcement can do anything, is if the drunk gets into a car. One argument i liked: if you go by the NRA logic, you shouldn't have speed limits because some people will break the law.

    The hysteria on the far right just shows how nuts they are.  Most gun owners, myself included, want background checks on ALL purchases of guns.  Most gun owners, myself included, do not think that assault weapons or high capacity magazines belong in civilian hands.  To equate obama with hitler and Stalin for sensible gun measures that Reagan favored is insane.

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited January 2013

    Insanity is rampant!  Probably the  most insane thing I heard yesterday was some "idjut" claiming (on cable news) that if the slaves in the 1800's had been allowed to have guns, the Civil War could have been avoided.........Surprised

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited January 2013

    "A well-regulated militia..."  (excerpted from the Second Amendment)

    WELL.  REGULATED.  REGULATED MEANS REGULATIONS.

    Just sayin'

    GrumpyTiredSuz

    Edited to add:  

    Here's an interesting discussion of the Second Amendment, the historical events that gave rise to it, the discussion surrounding its genesis, and thoughts of the individual states.  Of note is the concept that the "militia" (never really defined in the Constitution) was intended as a substitute for a standing army.  So if we have a citizen militia, armed to the teeth, can we cut defense spending significantly?  :-D

    www.saf.org/lawreview/fieldsandhardy.html

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited January 2013

    Suz, yes, I am pretty sure the founding fathers were not championing the idea of a bunch of rednecks running around loose with high-powered shotguns. I think the idea behind the 2nd amendment is sound. A properly armed and trained population is much less likely to submit to tyranny.

    Switzerland has an extensive home militia, and in places like Denmark we also had them as part of Gladio (US idea for firstline defense against Soviet invasion, a real concern at the time). My grandpa was a member of such a militia and had a collection of guns in a locked cabinet in the basement. The militia used to train fairly regularly on the weekends.

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited January 2013

    My proposal, which I've seen elsewhere, is that to stop debating  the intentions of the founding fathers.  Assume original intent was private ownership of guns, so we should allow unlimited purchase by anybody - of the muskets that were the firearm of the Revolutionary War.   Single shot muskets, where you have to put the bullet and powder into the barrel and then tap it all down with a rod.  Yup.  No problem with umlimited purchases of those.  I don't think we'll have too many mass shooting with muskets.

    Just also want to say, the people raving about Obama being a hypocrite maybe haven't noticed that his executive order provide for training for first responders and school officials in shooting situations and incentives for school to enhance security. 

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited January 2013
  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited January 2013

    Blue - perfect!

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited January 2013

    Thank you Paula....I knew I could count on you.  I almost said it in my post but didn't want you to feel a big have to thing.

    Jackie

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2013

    President Barack Obama

    official SECOND TERM portrait http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/01/18/obamas-new-official-portrait/

    Don't know how to post pictures, or I'd do that.... JOY  JOY  JOY  JOY  Happy Monday Everyone!

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited January 2013
  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited January 2013

    Shame on me, I guess I'm being something of a show-off.  Even I am not sure how I did that.  After I downloaded Picasa quite some time back now, I can just rt.click on any picture and it will automatically give me a drop-down menu where I can just hit the word copy, then go to whereever I wanted to copy to and hit the paste button and there it is. 

    I'm looking forward to the ceremonies on Monday.  Still amazed once in a while when I think of how one-sided his re-election  was after all.  It could have been much different, but extreme rt. wing and ultra conservative is not a good combination at all.  It so energized the left and it is what will continue to provide so much energy. 

    Also find it hard to believe that so many of the latest 'arguements/ads, and rhetoric is so blatant.  Then again, so much of it is meant to 'stir' the nut jobs so here comes the money.  Somewhere in so much of this it seems to come down to the money.  Must be hard to have a straight face now and then though..........as per all the denials that the NRA ad wasn't about the Obama's children. 

    Off to get some work done.

    Happy Day to all,

    Jackie

    spell checker hiding today.

  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited January 2013
  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited January 2013

    Alexandria - would like to second your proposal.

    I Hereby Propose a Twenty-Eigth Amendment:

    All US Citizens of Voting Age and Sound Mind Shall be Equipped with Muskets for the Purpose of Raising a Militia. The National Rifle Association, One Organization Under God, Shall Be the Sole Manufacturer and Distributor of Such Muskets. Citizens Have the Right to Raise a Militia for the Purpose of Overthrowing the NRA and Other Agents of Tyranny.

    Emboss, burn sides and....publish!Foot in Mouth

  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited January 2013

    Jackie ... your picture is not showing up for me.  Says "this image is unavailable".  Which makes me wonder if my picture is showing to anybody but me?

    The President's proposals make funding available for additional police officers and security resources for schools.  With the schools and local authorities having the decision making authority on how to use them.  Seems like an approach that few could argue with ... if they would bother to read what it actually says/does.

    Linda ... slaves vastly outnumbered their 'owners'.  If they had access to guns they would no doubt have killed off their 'owners' ... so I suppose it could be accurate to say that the Civil War would not have been necessary to stop slavery.

    Interesting take on the real reason for the Second Amendment here ...

    http://truth-out.org/news/item/13890-the-second-amendment-was-ratified-to-preserve-slavery

    "The real reason the Second Amendment was ratified, and why it says "State" instead of "Country" (the Framers knew the difference - see the 10th Amendment), was to preserve the slave patrol militias in the southern states, which was necessary to get Virginia's vote."

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited January 2013

    India pictures. Sorry it took so long. First one is of the protests at India Gate in Delhi. Second one is Taj Mahal. Third is the Mogul palace in Jaipur. A little taste of India present and past!

  • gardengumby
    gardengumby Member Posts: 7,305
    edited January 2013

    Kam - thanks for the suggestion, I didn't think of putting matcha into our morning vegie drink. Embarassed  What I don't like about green tea is the taste.  Hubby says it tastes like drinking alfalfa, but frankly, I think that gives alfalfa a bad rap. Tongue Out

    About Lance Armstrong.  It just pisses me off that he cheated.  I have never been a big fan of bike racing, but seeing someone win so consistently was exciting (especially since he was an American... ).  I don't see how someone can feel good about themselves if they win by cheating.  It's just wrong.  His mea culpa (I haven't watched the interview and have no interest in doing so) doesn't mean squat IMO,

  • gardengumby
    gardengumby Member Posts: 7,305
    edited January 2013

    Yorkie - those pictures are magnificent.  Thank-you for sharing!!!

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited January 2013

    Yorkie - what shocks me most is the first picture.  Indians in western wear.  That was something rarely (like 5 people total) seen the year I was there (1997).  You really did go to some of the most interesting places in India....

    GG - my only complaint about Matcha is gas!! I like the taste in my "green tea smoothie"...almond milk, matcha, frozen bananas, watermelon, but I'm having less of those as almonds are pastuerized, watermelon is high glycemic, blah blah and I need more greens.

    Cycling is one of the dirtiest sports as far as blood doping, EPO, etc..  I think it was the exception to not use these performance enhancers (Fabian Cancellara  Kiss- AKA my dream boy, has indicated he does not drug). Lance was a thug about it though.  Didn't matter who he hurt in the process or that he used intimidation to keep his teammates or the press in line, destroying careers in the process, which would also include families of those.  

    I think he hopes for some fashion of redemption because he has nothing now (except maybe a few Swiss bank accounts, to be sure).  He's a smart talented man, but has used his talents poorly.  There is no doubt he is controlling these interviews for an outcome he has already decided upon, but this game is beyond his control.  I haven't seen much sympathy for him, anywhere.

    It will be interesting to see where his "famous friends" come out on this.  Jake Glyenhal, Matthew McConnaughy....he has his groupies.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited January 2013

    You're welcome GG! Here are two more of an ancient observatory used by the Mogul Empire.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited January 2013

    Amazing pictures, Yorkie!

    What most got my attention, though, is the Taj Majal one - is that smog?

    Armstrong - I am not pissed now that the cat is out of the bag and he has lost his titles. What a human tragedy and waste of talent and overload of hubris. That man could likely have won the titles with no assistance. What a huge lie, but this does not negate his natural prowess as an athlete or his work in Livestrong.

    I see this in "technicolor." Punish him and everyone who cheats - yes. Realize that he was a great athlete who helped the cancer cause - yes. Take a lesson to yourself and your children on the perils of hubris - absolutely!

    Armstrong and every other cyclist who doped are fully responsible for their actions, but these scandals threaten to dessimate the sport, and THAT is the cycling governing body's fault. When there is that much cheating, it is institutional.

    Loved your sweet picture, Wabbit.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited January 2013

    Athena, people there claimed it was haze, but I think it was smog from polution. The whole time we were in India the air was like that. I noticed my allergies really kicked up there.

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited January 2013

    Interesting that he was concerned that his HGH had fueled his cancer, and then goes back to using it after his tx.  

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited January 2013

    Mark of a true addict.

  • gardengumby
    gardengumby Member Posts: 7,305
    edited January 2013

    http://truth-out.org/news/item/14002-paul-krugman-explains-the-keys-to-our-recovery

    great interview with Paul Krugman about how we can really recover from the hole we are in.

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