I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange
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I haven't done the eye ointment, but this last time it went so long before I realized what was going on, she went onto famcyclovir and pain medication. (Ofcourse, if I were a human, I'd pay $5 for the famcyclovir, but with my old vet, I must have had to pay handling fees and paid $120). Not sure that is what is going on this time, but stress does cause it and she's been pretty stressed, plus the steroid shot didn't help.
Pip - I don't totally understand it, but it is considered one of the upper respiratory diseases that cats get vaccinated for...they also can get eye ulcers, mouth sores from it. It is not a herpes a human can "catch."
HL- your Forrest has such a beautiful face! Sometime will have to compare notes...
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Working on thankgiving....but hey....I can work, so will rejoice. Going there right now. See you all after work.
Jackie
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Stove top stuffing.....I think that is like the Chinese food bachelors load their fridge with. My DH is a Stove top devotee as well. If I have to have it I add celery,onions, nuts and sometimes raisins. I'm a fan of altering these basic boxes of food.
As for tomorrow my kitchen is out of order, my Chrustmas present to myself is a whole new kitchen. It's small so it's in my small budget. Won't be finished til near Christmas.
So we may end up at a Chinese buffet if we can't find anything else open tomorrow. -
All I know is that I am charged with bringing dinner rolls....but Thanksgiving food with my family never disappoints.
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PiP, no pumpkin pie. I like it but DH doesn't, and I choose to spend my pie calories on a mince tart if I can find one! And yes, Forrest is liberal although not sexually active -- he LOVES Brian Williams on NBC Nightly. He often stands on his hind legs and pats Brian's face when he is on TV. Sometimes Forrest talks to him, too. It's really cute. Why yes, he IS a strange little kitty. What did anyone expect?!
Chickadee, I can't alter the StoveTop -- he doesn't even like different kinds. Chicken or turkey. Not even cranberry or cornbread. It is really sad. I just load up on veggies.
New kitchen -- good for you! We remodeled ours a few years back ... my refrigerator lived in the dining room on a furniture moving trolly for a few months!
L
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Greetings all and Happy Thanksgiving....
so sorry to hear about the sick kitty--hope she is home and better soon. In our house, we are dealing with kitty bullying--our considerably smaller cat has taken to bullying her big brother--including jumping on him and forbiding him from places. It might have started as simply playing but its passed that stage. His solution with the anxiety is to eat so add that to losing the exercise of going upstairs means he is even bigger. sigh. everyone has been tasked to get him to play 5 minutes with each person every day.
Thanksgiving at our house is fairly traditional--turkey, stuffing, garlic mashed potatoes, homemade cranberry sauce, rolls from our local bakery, kale something, salad, bourbon yams and whatever MIL brings for dessert. Each of the dishes is assigned to a person--Oldest has been making cranberry sauce since he was 5 and refuses to pass the dish on. Middle does the garlic mashed potatoes. DH does yams. Youngest (who REALLY likes to cook) and I do the rest---the other night we were working together yanking pinfeathers out of the bird before launching our dry brine.
I acknowledge being one of those who trys to do the whole thing relatively local (within the state) so everything on the table is from some farmer that we know and purchase from all year. (do not ask what the happy turkey cost!) This year I scored the missing piece on my locavore Thanksgiving table: the sweet potatoes or yams as some prefer. In five years of living here, I have never found yams at my farmer's market--they simply do not grown on this side of the mountains. But in the fall, a farmer from the other side of the mountains started bringing them to the neighborhood market. I tracked him down on sunday at a different market and bought about 14 lbs. Yes thats a lot but we will be doing all manner of yam-y dishes in the next few weeks so they will go fast.
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"Dressing" or "Stuffing"? I say dressing, DH says stuffing (because birds don't wear dresses.....!).
Having had our Thanksgiving last month (we had duck), tomorrow will be pasta and salad, but I'll be thinking of you all! We don't have yams here, only sweet potatoes. Now forgive me, but aren't they sweet enough without the "candied" bit?
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tee, hee...there are still many, many, MANY wild turkeys walking around my area - they know it's not yet hunting season....
gotta remember to get my orange hat out b4 it starts...still can't get used to how many people around herer hunt...
Happy Thanksgiving to all from Senator Elizabeth Warren's state.
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The moderators' post seems to have stopped the other thread cold. They don't have anything else to talk about, I guess.
I'm getting hungry just reading everyone's posts. My specialty is a maple syrup basted turkey. I drape a few slices of bacon over it the last hour of cooking.
Oh, and it has sage butter rubbed under the skin before cooking.
Mary
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With or without politics this thread will continue on with friendship and fun like we always have. This Thanksgiving I give thanks to all of you for being such great friends.

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I think I will be cooking a turkey dinner. You guys are making me hungry!
And Yes, notself, we have more in common than politics.
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This is TOO adorable - the polls are open for people to vote on which turkey - Cobbler or Gobbler- gets pardoned by the president this year. Here are the candidates and their profiles:


Which turkey is your favorite? Go to the White House Facebook page and "Like" and "share" their post to cast your vote.
Polls close at 8:00 pm ET on Tuesday, November 20th 2012, so be sure to visit the White House Facebook page to cast your vote.
Don't forget to tune in to the 2012 ceremony on Wednesday, November 21st on http://wh.gov/live at 2:00 pm ET to find out which turkey has been selected as the 2012 National Thanksgiving Turkey. And for more on how this Presidential tradition came to be check out the definitive history of the Presidential Turkey Pardon.
More here: http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2012/11/20/thanksgiving-decision-2012-cobbler-or-gobbler
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Even though, intellectually, I know where my turkey comes from, I don't think I could vote in that poll, Athena! I would feel like I was sentencing the loser to death!
Yes, I eat turkey, and yes, I know I sound like a hypocrite!
Mary
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You guys are making me seriously hungry. I miss cooking for Thanksgiving -- one of these years I want to host the feast, but for this year, we're the feted, out-of-town guests (who, flight schedules being what they are, will be arriving mid-afternoon when everything is basically done).
Thanksgiving with my B/SIL is very traditional -- turkey, dressing, cranberries, mashed potatos, sweet potatos, some sort of vegetable (I've brought brusselsprouts in the past when I drove in) and multiple pies (apple, pumpkin, but not, alas, mince).
Linda
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Never been one to be able to pick who lives or dies, even with turkeys---too Roman coliseum for me. Can I vote for both birds?
Meant to ask earlier but did anyone else watch Ken Burns' new documentary on "The Dust Bowl"? I watched most of the first episode and found it fascinating--sparked some interesting conversations. At last I finally know exactly where the Dust Bowl was. Had no idea that the roots of the buffalo grass went down 5 feet into the ground. We will be rewatching over the weekend with the whole family.
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Lewing and RR - in regards to the "smart" electric meters - the problem is that many/most of them have extremely poor built in security, therefore they are easily hackable. The concern is that someone in oh say China, could bring down the electrical grid for someplace like Seattle. Or on a smaller scale, some smart kid next door could get PO'd at you and either send your electrical bill through the skylight or turn off your electricity altogether. By and large (in my humble opinion) they can deal with the problem by incresing security, as the plus side is huge for smart meters.
As far as Thanksgiving goes - the only family in the area right now have colds (hubby's brothers), and since we're going on vacation soon (19 days, but who's counting...
) my husband opted out of any Thanksgiving with them. Instead he barbecued our turkey last weekend, and we're doing the leftover thing now (had turkey divan for dinner last night). Tomorrow I will make a pumpkin pie (with rice flour crust) and some cranberry/orange/ginger relish so that we can at least pretend to celebrate. We'll do something fairly extravagant for Christmas instead, as son and family and MIL/FIL will be joining us. I don't know yet if we'll do turkey or ham or roast beef, as my husband is starting to think he may have developed an allergy to turkey...
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I wish they would pardon them both!
Yes, it did go rather silent next door. That's fine - as long as we don't go back to the old days of drive-bys and DELETIONS!! I wish the mods could add: "No cowardice. Goat herders and batdad round-er up-ers will be put on 24/7 duty."
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I usually make a big lasagna for Christmas. It's the Italian tradition. Lots of meat dishes too.
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Blue-I made lasagne for Christmas Eve one year, and my mother-in-law was not happy. Apparently, ham is the only acceptable entree for Christmas. She pouted. I'll cut her a little slack, because she has dementia, but just a little slack.
Funny thing-she went to my sister-in-law's inlaws the next day for Christmas, and guess what they served? Lasagna! Hahahahaha!
Mary
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For Christmas we have pork ("piggy") or turkey too, with a trillion sauces and salads.
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They're in shock! I like talking about puppies and kitties better anyway!
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Mary, that's funny! My oldest daughter is having traditional Thanksgiving dinner at her house. She as well as her sister, my DH and me are vegetarians, but the men in her house are all carnivores. Anyway, I'm making spinach lasagna for we vegetarians and my youngesst daughter is making a vegan pumpkin pie. Somehow we all get along!
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We usually have ham, too. I like to get one with a bone because DH loves pea soup. There is an old British joke about ham: "Eternity is two people and a ham." In thruth, I only buy a ham once a year. I get a pork shoulder a couple times per summer to make barbeque, but even though I love ham, there is just the two of us.
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Was suppose to go south for Thanksgiving, but cancelled last week....my other single friends and I sometimes commiserate about being the last minute "orphans" on this holiday. Anyway, turned out to be a good move since I'll have to be giving Emma pills twice a day, atleast for the next 5 days.
I was writing a friend on my Iphone "no more vaccines for Emma!" and autocorrect spelling changed it to "no more caddilacs for Emma!" Ironically, this is the truth...I could have had a nice downpayment on a caddilac with what I've spent on this cat....but I love her, nevertheless.
Happy Thanksgiving all...if my joints are up to it, I'll probably go down to the Community Hall and help serve Thanksgiving tomorrow.
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I love ham, but cannot eat it very often - unfortunately, I seem to be getting that way with beef as well. As a result, hubby decided to buy a quarter of grass-fed hormone free beef again. We're getting it today. Hopefully my poor tummy will do better. I sincerely HATE this disease and the stupid stupid stupid drugs we take to keep it at bay!!!
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Sorry to hear about the sick kitty. I'm another one who didn't know they got herpes in their eyes, sounds painful.
GardenG, interesting about the smart meters. I agree that if that's the case they really need to work on security.
We call it dressing if it's cooked in the turkey, stuffing when it's cooked in a pan. I'm gluten intolerant and all the others like Stove Top so Stove Top wins. If I could eat it I'd add some celery and onion but everybody else is happy with it as is. Turkey, stuffing, green beans, garlic mashed red skins, gravies (regular and gluten free) sweet potato casserole and plainer sweet potatoes, cranberry relish, cherry, apple and pumpkin pie (one gluten free - yay!) and rolls. All in all a carbohydrate overload for sure!
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My Mom and I will be spending Turkey Day with my brother's in-laws. My other brother is in FL and my sister and her family are going to VA to visit their daughter (and before that, wherever she was in college. It's getting really old. I can't remember the last time I saw my sister at Thanksgiving. But I digress...). We usually have turkey and ham on both Christmas and Thanksgiving. Mom's bringing a sugar-free chocolate pie and I'm bringing baby spinach for salad.
My kitty is on the mend, so no worries about leaving them for the day. My other kitty started getting sick Monday, so I shared Lucy's Reglan with her and nipped it in the bud. They're both eating again and 24 hours without getting sick! Yay! It may be safe to vacuum today and I'll shampoo the carpet Friday. AND put up the Christmas tree! This should be fun. I didn't put one up last year, so they've never seen one.
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RR -- Thanks for the clearing up about dressing and stuffing -- although....it seems as though the stuffing should be IN the bird, and the dressing as a side dish!
I also never knew about feline herpes, and am happy to hear there is a remedy for it.
Riley - your kitties are going to have a very eventful Christmas with the tree being a never-ending source of delight -- oh oh!!
Meant to tell HL that Forrest has the most beautiful, soulful face!
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Hey, Kam - I hope you have a good day tomorrow - Emma is definitely lucky to have you!
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RR - humans can get herpes in their eyes! I know it because I get it. Apparently, in 5% of the cases, the virus travels up the (trigeminal?) nerve from the intial contact (mouth) and settles in the optic nerve. I soon discovered, when I used contact lense solution, the preservative in all but one wetting solution, activated the virus. The first time I got it, I was in my 40's, even though the doctor said most humans probably have had the virus since they had contact with other children. It was soooooo painful.
Lindasa - most cats resolve with Herpes, but this new Vet told me if it has to have acyclovir, this can cause bone marrow issues...so after 5 days on the meds, they want a CBC count. Geez, sounds like chemo to me. Should have saved some of that Neulasta, I guess.
The best thing to do for a cat with herpes, is to remove the stress....quiet, dark places. The last time I did what I could with all of the remodeling going on and I put lawn chairs way in the backyard, covered them up with blankets to make tents and my cats spent their time there away from the commotion. My house is pretty quiet now, so hoping I can avoid the medication (even though the DVM and I never discussed this).
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