I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited November 2012

    Did you guys know that mixed use zoning is yet another example of the United Nations conspiracy to turn us all into serfs?  I don't know whether to laugh or cry . . . laugh at the absurdity of it, or cry at the thought that some people are honestly that paranoid and fearful. 

    (Now, if the UN is involved in the decision to allow 4th Ave in Brooklyn to be lined with high-rise condos, I may have to change my tune . . . )

    Linda

  • rosemary-b
    rosemary-b Member Posts: 2,006
    edited November 2012

    Amazed at the alternate reality I see in other places.

    Good news at the pulmonologist. My lungs are okay, just allergic to everything in the air.. The best news was that she peeked at the MUGA scan my onc ordered for my visit next week and for the third year in a row it is 51 (normal). Not bad since it was between 15 and 20  (the technical term for that is sucky) four and a half years ago.

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited November 2012

    Happy good morning, all!



    I LOVE strange people! They've taught me the very best things in life. How can you learn if don't embrace The Strange?



    For example, when I was a very young (4) and very literal lass, I thought Jim Morrison was odd for trying to "set the night on fire." When I finally figured it out it opened my mind to a whole world of fantastic imagery. (And the weird world of sex, but that came later.) I still remember that moment.



    I raise my coffee mug to salute all the strangers in the world, for we're all strange in some way!



    CaffeinatedEnjoyful



  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited November 2012

    Lewing - I heard about the Brooklyn plans on NPR yesterday. The speakers (not sure who they were since I popped in the middle of the conversation) seemed interested in keeping the "feel" of Brooklyn while still making gazillions on affordable housing. That sounds like developer/UN/strangerdanger talk to me. I'd keep an eye on them!



    Rosymary - GREAT NEWS! Except for the air thing. :-( Would a mask help?

  • rosemary-b
    rosemary-b Member Posts: 2,006
    edited November 2012

    I am happy to have had the opportunity to meet all the strange people who came to Niagara Falls last year. I am honored to have them for friends.

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited November 2012

    Enjoyful, the zoning change on 4th Ave happened a while ago (not sure exactly when) . . . there seems to be an insatiable demand for condos here, and hey, people gotta live somewhere . . . but a lot of the new construction is U.G.L.Y.  Plus, from a purely selfish perspective, the new high rises block the views of the low-rise residents.  We used to be able to see the Statue of Liberty from our roofdeck, now we have a lovely view of The Argyle.

    An interesting thing I learned is that when developers promise a certain number of low/mod income units as part of a development, they don't have to actually include those units in the development itself.  They're free to create onesies/twosies scattered pretty much anywhere.  Which, of course, perpetuates segregation and makes the city more boring.

    (Rosemary, big cheers on your normal MUGA . . . and don't worry, your MUGA may be normal, but YOU are still strange.  As are we all.)

    Linda

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited November 2012

    My mom, in comforting my angsty adolescent self (who, at 6'1" tall and 110 lbs was VERY different!), uttered words of wisdom that resonate through the ages, "Why be NORMAL?  Normal is for people without imagination!"  (not applying to MUGA scans, of course, but to life approaches).  Normal (meaning ordinary, not strange) was not a compliment in our house.  My mom once said to my sister, "Oh, you are so NORMAL!" and my sister burst into tears and said, "You don't have to insult me, Mom!"

    Strange is good.  If we didn't have strange, we would all still be huddled in caves trying to figure out how to start a fire.

    Congrats, Rosemary, on your GREAT MUGA scan!

    And it seems as though EVERYTHING is a UN conspiracy.  Maybe the people who fear that SHOULD go back to the caves and huddle there while they try to figure out how to start a fire.

    L

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited November 2012

    I love being straaaaaaaaaaaange!  My strange buddy was the BEST!  We've often taken a Moonlight Drive together!  It's what makes some of us human.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited November 2012

    I love you fellow strange ones - it still breaks my heart that I wasn't able to go to NOTL last year.

    E  - how are you doing these days? Are you getting a Thansgiving break on rads?

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  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited November 2012

    Rosemary - great news! Phew!

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited November 2012

    Hello All, and Happy Thanksgiving to those of you in the US!

    We at BCO have decided to re-instate our policy on no politics, unless directly related to healthcare. We are posting this in various topics throughout the boards. With the US elections behind us, we feel that this is a good time to return to this policy, and bring a greater sense of calm in this regard. We sincerely appreciate your understanding. Best, Your Mods

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  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited November 2012

    Back to brussel sprouts!

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited November 2012

    Strange=non-complacent flexibility.  I like to challenge things and do things I am not suspose to, though they are not bad things. I just like to do them differently.  When small....I generally searched out older people to listen to because I FELT old.  I didn't enjoy 'book' learning.....I wanted to 'hear' what older people had to say, know what they enjoyed.

    Conversely.....as age progressed, I wanted to stay in tune ( flexible ) and understand what was going on around me.  One of the really strange things was how immersed I was in this just past election.  I still find myself very fascinated with people.  Much more so the in-flexible ones.  I keep wondering what turned them down or off  ---  why it seems so difficult to look at things through new eyes -- to see that people who are different from us/them, in general want nearly the same things. 

    I am going to change with the times because I don't want to be left behind in some stagnant pool of in-flexibility.  Just having a few concept moments here. 

    Blue...strange and human....goes together very well.  Perfect fit.

    Jackie

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited November 2012

    Posting at the same time as you mods.  Oops.

    Jackie

  • 208sandy
    208sandy Member Posts: 2,610
    edited November 2012

    Funny thing is we "strangers" don't have to talk about just one subject all the time so we'll be fine but restrained (which I personally hate).

    Rosemary - wonderful news - lifting my coffee mug (I slept in!)

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited November 2012
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2012

    Strange - the best. 

    Kam  - more thanks - I never knew the USA was a "christian" nation.  When did that happen?  Shall I tell all my Jewish friends, Buddhist friends, Muslim friends?  Will they have to leave the USA?  Hindu friends are probably still celebrating Divali, so I won't let them know, yet.

    Ok. I'm fine with no politics. YES WE CAN. YES WE CAN, easily continue our thread without discussing politics Tongue Out

    We can start reading installments of Alexandria's book?  Sing with Blue's hero ( oh those lips, those lips), and share the HL story about the American Masters David Geffen ( I think he's Jewish, will he have to move?)Laughing

  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited November 2012

    I just ran across a really nice piece that I wanted to share here.  If you go to the link there is political content there too (it's Thomas Friedman's column) but that's not why I wanted to post it.  I just think this is really neat:

    How fast is that Chattanooga choo-choo? The majority of Chattanooga homes and businesses get 50 megabits per second, some 100 megabits, a few 250 and those with big needs opt for a full gigabit per second, explained Harold DePriest, the chief executive of EPB, the city’s electric power and telecom provider, which built and operates the network. “The average around the country is 4.5 megabits per second.” So average Internet speed in Chattanooga is 10 times the national average. That doesn’t just mean faster downloads. The fiber grid means 150,000 Chattanooga homes now have smart electric meters to track their energy consumption in real time. More important, said DePriest, on July 5, Chattanooga got hit with an unusual storm that knocked out power to 80,000 homes. Thanks to intelligent power switching on the fiber network, he said, “42,000 homes had their electricity restored in ... 2 seconds.” Old days: 17 hours.

    More at link:  http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/21/opinion/friedman-obamas-moment.html?smid=pl-share

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited November 2012

    Interesting, River Rat!  I'd seen stats before on how shockingly slow U.S. internet speeds are compared to Europe.  (Just think of all that productivity lost while waiting for YouTube videos to load, LOL!)  But the tie-in to utility service was totally new to me.  I really hope we can continue to share stuff like that.  (I know that smart meters have been controversial in some areas - with opposition coming from various points on the political spectrum, it hasn't been a left/right issue.  Personally I think they make a lot of sense.)

    On a different but related topic - one reason why we never lost power during Sandy is that the power lines in our neighborhood are all buried.  I wish that were more common but, you know, it takes money.

    A food note: I'm in training for the big feast tomorrow, with pumpkin challah bread soaking in eggs and milk for French toast in a little bit.  The bread is from an old-time Jewish bakery that's rebranded itself as "the original NYC artisanal bakery" in an effort to tap the insatiable demand for all things artisanal hereabouts.  I love Brooklyn, I really do, but sometimes it gets ridiculous.  We have artisanal popsicles, artisanal dog biscuits, $40 artisanal T-shirts . . .

    Linda

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited November 2012

    Wow, after watching the David Geffen piece on American Masters last night, I couldn't sleep because of all the earworms!  "Court and Spark," "Free Man in Paris," "Our House," "Suite Judy Blue Eyes," "Wedding Bell Blues," "When I Die," "Stay," "Doctor My Eyes," and on and on.  Wow, David Geffen brought us a significant portion of the soundtrack of our lives! I didn't remember that he was involved in a relationship with Cher (I wasn't paying attention to Cher at that time).  I didn't know that Laura Nyro wrote "Wedding Bell Blues," or "And When I Die," or "Eli's Coming," or "Stoney End," or "Stoned Soul Picnic."  David Geffen is REALLY interesting!  It was on PBS, so I'm sure there will be reruns.  I can highly recommend it.

    Listening to a vinyl copy of the "Messiah" arias and choruses.  We played some of them in high school orchestra (I played cello) and the "Hallelujah" chorus was another earworm last night.  Don't ask me why -- David Geffen was NOT Handel's agent!

    I am looking forward to taking music lessons again when I retire next year.  It has been 35 years since I put down the cello ... I think it's time to take it up again.  And the piano.  So much to do, so few hours in the day!

    L

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited November 2012

    My dh and I are here in Florida also getting ready for our 'second' thanksgiving dinner. Mmmmmm. We have ordered a traditional turkey dinner to have at our condo but I understand that many Americans prefer ham now and turkey at Christmas. What do most of my "strange" American pals usually do?

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited November 2012

    Ohhhh...the Messiah is my favorite. I have it on CD but I miss the vynil. Now is the time of year to start listening to it, too.

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited November 2012

    I am looking forward to the day when I, too, can meet all my strange friends in person. 

    Having a pretty small Thanksgiving at my house tomorrow-7 people-but I think that's kind of nice for a change. Much of the rest of the family went out of town, but we didn't because both of my kids have to work on Friday. I'd rather be with them.

    Mary

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited November 2012

    Ah, PiP, I'm a traditionalist.  I have turkey and dressing, although DH prefers StoveTop Stuffing (insert gagging noise here).  He also likes white gravy from a packet.  Embarassed  Nothing to do with my cooking (his mother was a famously terrible cook), but it is what he likes to eat.  My mother and grandmother are reeling in horror wherever they are at the thought of StoveTop Stuffing and packet gravy.  Mashed potatoes, candied yams, peas with pearl onions, green beans with almonds, soft rolls, and dutch apple pie round out our meal.  I like mince pie, but I am the only one, so I look for a small mince tart instead. 

    L

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited November 2012

    My cat is an atheist, or so she meows to me on occasion.  In one altered reality, she might also be a US Citizen (and an atheist) - certainly she gets better medical care than 50 million of them people.  Unfortuneately, she doesn't' pray, so I'm sure that's why she was not blessed with a stable immune system.  Back into the Vet with a vaccine-induced sick cat! (I'm not too worried, as it is probably Herpes and they can treat with famcyclovir.  Btw, most cats self-resolve herpes episodes, but not my Emma!) 

    No more politics?

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited November 2012

    Oh, Kam, I'm so sorry Emma has to go back to the vet!  My little Forrest gets herpes, too -- and it never resolves on its own.  He always has to have eye ointment.  The last time I took him to the vet, it sounded like we were boiling a human baby in the back seat -- it was TERRIBLE.  He is so afraid to go outside ... fortunately DH was driving because I was in tears. 

    This is my little man when he was younger.  He is 6 now.

    L

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited November 2012

    I must be 'strange' ..... I've never heard of a cat with herpes.

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited November 2012

    They get it in their eye and it gives them a runny eye.  Accordig to my vet, it can't be transmitted to humans (but I am careful nonetheless).  I expect Forrest got it from his mother Peaches, who was an outside cat when she gave birth to him and his siblings.  She only gets it every once in a while, but Forrest gets it when we go on vacation or he is otherwise stressed. 

    L

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited November 2012

    HL...no pumpkin pie?



    Thanks for the herpes explanation. I guess cats should be less sexually active. They must be very liberal!!!

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