I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

Not needing to note here...out of the mouth of stupid politicians......Rice is somehow tainted when the other Rice plus Sarah Palin were souls of proprietary behaviors --- it is you politicians who seem to think we will overlook what you said and thought before---watch out ---- lest your "good" deeds follow you a little too closely.  Lots of eyes and ears are keeping tabs.

Jackie

This pretty much represents my view of all the gloom and doom predictions, excuses, finger pointing and cluelessness coming from Republican circles after the election.  Let them have their little snit fits.  The news cycle will pass them by shortly.

If they let the tax cuts for the middle class expire it will make it perfectly clear that the only ones they care about are their wealthy donors.  Protect them at all costs and the h*ll with everybody else?  We've all figured out by now their 12 years of tax cuts did NOT result in these so called 'job creators' creating jobs.  Now we see if Boehner, McConnell, etc. have figured out that it is voters who can take away their jobs.

The Republican House members who are smart enough to see the writing on the wall and step away from the crazy can rein them in.  Boehner is going to have to decide if he wants to let the crazies destroy his party or not.  He knows better IMO.  He has the power to 'allow' his saner members in safe districts to vote reasonably. 

McConnell has spent too much time in his shell and is suffering from lack of oxygen to his brain cells.  But the Dems have a majority in the Senate anyway and for him to filibuster against a middle class tax cut would be totally self destructive.  These guys like their cushy jobs a whole lot better than they like McConnell. 

It won't have to be played like a poker game if they would step up to the plate and be reasonable.  If not, Obama has the winning hand.

I'm torn.  On the one hand if they keep up the stupid we may well be able to get rid of the worst of them in 2014 and put a stop to this sh*t and restore a sane and functional two party system.   But a lot of people are going to get hurt if they keep this up for 2 years so I hope it does not come to that.      

Some wag has called McCain "Grampa McGrumpypants".  Fits, don't you think?

I've read that the insults thrown at Susan Rice is because McGrumpypants and Graham want the President to nominate Senator Kerry so that Brown can run for his Mass seat.  Well, it's all politics, all the time.....what's new?

ETA:  Oops, Yorkie got ahead of me there!

I really think McCain lost most of his mind quite a while ago.  He is twisting in the wind trying to remain in the game but he really needs to retire before he makes an even bigger fool of himself.  Never mind ... history will never forget Palin anyway.

What happened in Ireland was murder.  They stood around and watched her suffer and get sicker and sicker past the point of no return.  That woman did not have to die and there was no viable fetus to protect.  That is what happens when you let religious dogma and politicians get involved in medical decisions.  A friend of my daughter found herself in roughly the same circumstances a few years ago.  She desperately wanted that baby but the only 'choice' was whether they both died.  In the Ryan, etc. world with no exceptions she would have been dead at the age of 28.  There is nothing pro-life about that.

Athena: I'm not worried about the nuts who support Ryan's no exception to abortion.  You're right.  They'll never change. It's the more moderate people who don't see the danger from these nut jobs, who don't realize that women will die if the Repugs have their way on abortion.  I am worried that some moderates will be fooled by the smoke and mirror tricks and let this happen.  It's going on in Ohio now.  How many women will not have their cancer caught because Planned Parenthood is being deprived of funding?  This is absolutely a war on women.  I agree with WR that this was murder, and I condemn not only the hospital but the political idiots who force their religious dogma on others.  This woman wasn't even a Christian, but she had to die for Catholic beliefs.  It makes me crazy.

Yes, those doctors should be had up on manslaughter charges.

There are things that are best not put up for debate - the right wing nuts will go on to justify them and since the media loves covering extremists (the ignore the moderates) the wingnuts will get all of the air time - just like those PIGS who justified rape and blamed the woman and ran for congressional seats. They lost their elections but boy, did they every make a splash with the gullible press.

It's also why I don't want to go off the fiscal cliff. The extremists would happily vote down programs for the poor - they would just lie and say they were doing something else. It's what they've always done - call a spade a club.

If a major candidate can lose and help to spread the falsehood that his opponent's supporters got gifts - and if that news can spread like wildfire and people can believe it, then anything is possible.

Polls show that most voters support choice in abortion. I am not worried about them. I am worried about some nutcase taking up the Ireland story, changing the facts, repackaging and telling a completely different tale. Knowledge is NOT safe in the hands of these people. They've never seen a fact they didn't want to twist.

Sadly, we have always been a nation of gullible information consumers who don't use their judgement. We've let all the information out there for nuts to twist. Now is the time to tell them to shut up and let mature people with a brain govern. I also think some liberals on television need to stop sensationalizing these whackos and concentrating more on the moderate thinkers. From watching TV, one would think these extremists were the norm. Luckily, they are not, otherwise Obama would never have won. 

I believe in free speech, so those extremists can continue to cry like babies if they wish. Just not on C-Span's or taxpayer's time.:-)

Alyson, thank you for sharing your story with us. I am so glad that you are here with us, and so glad that even decades ago, the doctors, the medical system and the culture were all supportive and sensible about the right thing to do in such a tragic snd dangereous circumstance. The fact is, medical procedures should only be a matter between a patient and her (or his) doctor -- period. Not up for public debate or comment, not a part of societal norms or enforced religious strictures, but between a doctor and patient, whatever is in the patient's best interest.



People are free to believe whatever they want, but should not be free to impose it on others. Me doing something lawful of which someone else disapproves because of their religion is not infringing on their rights -- but someone trying to prevent me from doing something lawful because it is against their religious beliefs is religious bullying. Believe whatever you want, but don't try to make me. And the murder of that young woman in Ireland was indeed just that -- murder.



L

This is from the New York Times.  It appears that the Republicans are so busy demanding an inquiry regarding Benghazi, that they don't have the time to attend the inquiry into Benghazi.  You can't make this stuff up.  http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/15/john-mccains-scheduling-error/?hp

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Mr. McCain has said he wants to get to the bottom of what he seems absolutely certain was a catastrophic bungling of the Libyan situation by Mr. Obama and his team. He is proposing holding “Watergate-style” hearings on the matter, with lots of witnesses and of course, lots of television cameras.

But yesterday, when the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee received a classified briefing on the Benghazi issue, Mr. McCain was absent. His spokesman Brian Rogers blamed a “scheduling error.”...

Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky also missed the closed meeting on Benghazi, but managed to find the time for a TV interview in which he said he had big questions about what happened. “I don’t know enough of the details,” he said.

Puffery...that is the perfect word.

I hope this comes out right....so much I put in here has the crazy marks....but it is about Karl Rove the possible law breaker.

Karl Rove was ambitious this past election. He spent hundreds of millions of dollars in an attempt to sway people into thinking Mitt Romney was going to win. He was so confident in his ability he eventhrew a tantrumon air. And now he isunder attackby his own party, being thrown under the bus in a blame game. And now it turns out, Karl may have broken the law in his eagerness.

Think Progresshas uncovered that Rove’s Crossroads Grassroots Policy Strategies (GPS) is, for lack of a better term, not-legal. Not saying that they’re illegal, but they failed to file the necessary legal paperwork to even exist in the first place.

Crossroads GPS was filed with the IRS as a 501(c)(4) “social welfare organization” located in Virginia. This kind of corporate structure is commonly called a dark money group due to its design to shield donors from any fallout associated with the donations. However, when you check with the state of Virginia, no such organization exists in theirdatabase. Per the law in Virginia, any such organization which is to collect $1 million or more in donations must file the proper paperwork and fees before starting operation with the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services Office of Charitable and Regulatory Programs. Crossroads GPS did neither.

As a result, the shield which Crossroads GPS was to provide their donors may not apply at all. Failure by Karl Rove to cross his Ts and dot his Is might open him, and all of his donors, up to a legal nightmare scenario. He may have to return all of the money, and even then all the donors would become public knowledge, and he may be facing jail time for illegal solicitation of millions of dollars of donor money. People have gone to jail for far less severe a crime.

Karl Rove appears to have been so assured of victory that trivialities like legal paperwork appear to have not registered with him. Without a Romney presidency, Rove now may be facing an IRS auditor in his future, along with numerous complaints and other legal filings. The story of Karl Rove may make a good movie one day, discussing the hubris of greed and the failings of Objectivism. For now, it is clear that Rove is finished.

Very interesting.....I am sure the VA attorney general Cuccinelli, a Tea Party apparatchik of the worst kind, will do what he can to protect Rove. Maybe his succesor won't though.

Thanks for the article, Jackie.