I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

Looking at that picture of those two men.....eee gads...this country can't afford to take anymore timeouts from progress.

Bren, great picture of two lovely ladies! Thanks, all, for the well wishes. I'm a glass half full kind of person so look at this as kind of a blessing .... Skipping that last doxil/adriamycin treatment may be a good thing!! I do feel it has worked since I haven't had the pain under my rib cage that was a result of the lung mets but sure don't want to continue if it causes worse problems down the road. As my onc has always told me, there are other chemo drugs out there that I haven't tried!! See the onc next Wednesday so will get my muga results then. Seems to me like CNN is bending over backwards to give Romney the edge .... What's with that?

This is so funny:

Amazon: Avery Binder

The graphic from Belinda makes me think this needs to be talked about more.

Romney's Foreign Advisory Team:

 Of Romney’s forty identified foreign policy advisers, more than 70 percent worked for Bush. Many hail from the neoconservative wing of the party, were enthusiastic backers of the Iraq War and are proponents of a US or Israeli attack on Iran. Christopher Preble, a foreign policy expert at the Cato Institute, says, “Romney’s likely to be in the mold of George W. Bush when it comes to foreign policy if he were elected.” On some key issues, like Iran, Romney and his team are to the right of Bush. Romney’s embrace of the neoconservative cause—even if done cynically to woo the right—could turn into a policy nightmare if he becomes president.

http://www.thenation.com/article/167683/mitt-romneys-neocon-war-cabinet#

Romney's Economic Advisory Team:

Romney’s economic brain trust is led by two former chairmen of President George W. Bush’s Council of Economic Advisors, R. Glenn Hubbard and Greg Mankiw.

Hubbard is famous for his role as a chief architect of the Bush tax cuts. If any single non-politician can be blamed for turning the budget surpluses of the Clinton years into the crippling deficits of the Bush era, thus leaving the United States woefully unprepared to deal with a disastrous recession, it’s got to be Glenn Hubbard.

Glenna - I'm sorry you have to go through this.  xxox    As far as CNN, they always do that!!!  It's one thing to have bias, it's another to report news from each side as if there is equivalence, where there is none.

OMG - the Commie meme is alive and well.  I wonder if these idjuts even understand what Communism even means.

Beesie - your point?

If you think the GOP is the party with gravitas - tell us what we don't know - tell us the GOP plan. Do you really know it all?

The point is, they don't have a plan. And while the conversation here has gone far beyond binders, you appear to miss the point that the binders comment symblizes Romney's lack of empathy and understanding for anything outside of himself.

BTW, polls are going up and down.

Hi Beesie

It is interesting how things look from the outside. Thanks for your perspective. I still ask how Romney will create 12 million jobs as president AND does not think government creates jobs. My head is spinning at that one.

On a totally different topic,

Tesla at 4 months

 She is around 5 or 6 pounds already.

She must have some Maine Coon in her. She looks a lot like my Kiki. Lovely kitteh, Rosymary!

You probably told me that and I forgot it already. Stupid arimifaslodexifen!

Beesie I absolutely respect the detailed information you provide so many on BC.......but.....this post sounded like someone wagging their finger at us like an old schoolmarm.

Romney's "binders" comment symbolizes his lack of empathy?  Seriously???  He used an accurate and correct word, based on his experience (and as I pointed out, my experience).  He was talking about his process to recruit and hire more women. Twisting this into something it's not may sell to the base but it comes across as just plain silly... and desperate. 

And yes, actually Romney does have a plan.  I agree he's been short on some of the detail but I'm pretty sure he's actually provided more detail than Obama has. The Democratic campaign has been all about trashing Romney and saying that the Republicans don't have a plan and their numbers don't add up and they lie, etc. etc..  What the Democrats seem to have neglected to include in their talking points is much about what their plans are, what they will do to fix the fine mess that you all are in. By the way, last I checked, Obama's tax plan doesn't add up.   

Rosemary, he creates 12 million jobs by taking the binders of business.  Different binders than previously discussed.  Canada successfully lowered corporate tax rates, increased the global competitiveness of our businesses, increased jobs and maintained or increased corporate tax revenue.  Everyone complains about all the U.S. jobs that have been outsourced to other countries.  How about creating incentives for returning jobs to the U.S.?  There are lots of ways to create 12 million jobs by incenting (or not penalizing) businesses.  I've spent my career in business. This is not rocket science. Right now American businesses are sitting on cash, not spending and not hiring.  The right policies will change this. 

Enjoyful, Obama hasn't disappointed me in some way.  He's disappointed me in every way.  

I was a Hillary supporter, as all of you who were here 4 years ago probably remember. My issue was simply that I thought that Obama was not qualified for the job - I figured that he should wait until he had more experience. I admit that a good part of my initial dislike of Obama was that he reminded me of too many of the young hotshots I'd seen through my business career, guys who for some reason or another are tapped on the shoulder early in their careers and are told that they are "the one".  They progressed through the ranks quickly and often without learning anything or contributing much.  In the early years, it was always men, never women, who were "chosen". Even now, it's still usually men.  They climb the ladder, relying on the work of other people; most often, it's the work of women - women who aren't promoted and who are just left behind.  I can think of a few exceptions - men who appreciated and understood their good fortune, and who made sure that they learned as much as they could on their way up, and who rewarded those who helped them climb. But most who were in this position believed the hype about themselves.  Too many of them were just empty suits. When I first started to see Obama campaigning about 5 years ago, he reminded me so much of those empty suits. 

But he was nominated and he was elected.  I hoped that he would be like those exceptions I mentioned, that he would appreciate his good fortune and learn on the job. I hoped that I was wrong about him.

But as I assess the last four years, I'm afraid I wasn't wrong.  In fact, while my pimary concern had been that Obama wasn't yet ready for the job, what I believe now is that temperamentally, Obama is completely unsuited for the job.  He's bristly and and mean and vindictive.  And he doesn't seem to have a clear concept of the job. From his comments (to the Supreme Court justices during the State of the Union, to John McCain in that meeting shortly after the election, to Paul Ryan when he was sitting, by invitation, in the front row, etc.), Obama doesn't seem to appreciate that the office of the president is one of three branches of goverment and he has to respect and work with the other branches of government. The structure of the U.S. is not set up to make it easy on the president.  It's set up for conflict.  It's set in a way that forces the president to have to work with Congress.  Obama has shown no willingness or inclination to do that.  Let Nancy Pelosi do it.  And now that she's not there, lay blame on the Republicans.  "They won't work with me!"  But it's just as much his fault, if not more since he's the president, and therefore he's the one who has the start the ball rolling and put out the invitations to meet and talk. 

There's a lot about the Republican platform that I'm not big on. Some of it I think is wrong; some of it really worries me.  So the choice of party is really troubling to me. But putting parties aside, I believe that Romney is much better suited to be president.  He has the temperment and the experience and he worked hard and learned tons on his way up. All those changes in positions.... that's called flexibility and compromise and knowing when you can stick to your guns and when you have to shift your position in order to achieve your larger goal.  It's not a negative, it's a positive.

By the way, on women's issues, I don't think the choice is nearly as clear as many of you think it is.  I support the full availability of contraceptives - that's why I support Planned Parenthood - but I don't think that the government should be paying for every woman's contraceptives, or forcing employers to pay. There need to be avenues for all women to be able to get contraceptives but why in the world should there be federal legislation stating that contraceptives must be free to all women, including women who can afford to pay? Isn't that a waste of money... and government overreach? As for abortion, I strongly support the right to choose, but I don't support unlimited access to abortions at any point in one's pregnancy.  I believe that late term abortions and partial birth abortions should be illegal, except when the health of the mother or child is involved. With rights come responsibilities. If someone is going to have an abortion, she should be responsible to make the decision early on in the pregnancy. So I guess I don't agree with either the Democratic or Republican positions on these "women's issues".  I don't think these women's issues are nearly as black and white as everyone makes them out to be. So no, I don't think that the Democrats are the party that is concerned about women and the Republicans have a war against women. It's just not that straightforward. 

And no, I don't expect to sway anyone here.... I'm really not trying to. But it would be nice to see a bit more respect, not to me but in the comments made about Romney. For goodness sakes, the guy is a Mormon who doesn't smoke or drink, he's had a very long loyal marriage and he still loves his wife, his kids & their spouses all seem to love him and support him, he has ministered to those in his church and he gives a lot of his income to charity, he donated his entire inheritance from his father.... how in the world did this guy become the lying devil that he's protrayed to be? Just because he was a successful businessman? 

Edited to Add:  I saw Romney's lieutenant governor on t.v. tonight... a woman.  She was there and she supported his story. I don't really care how the binders landed in Romney's hands, but it sure sounds as though a lot of pretty significant positions in Romney's cabinet and leadership roles were women. 

Beesie ... you come here and talk trash about Obama and at the same time lecture us about why we should not speak badly of Romney?   I don't agree with your conclusions about either of them.  But this is not intended to be a debate thread so I'll just leave it at that. 

ETA ... I changed my mind.  You know when the election is over you will still be in Canada with your national health insurance and all that.  Romney/Ryan want to repeal Obamacare and leave us with nothing again.  My sister who is under 55 will end up with a voucher when she's 65 instead of Medicare.  As women we are not supporting the party that wants to legislate our reproductive choices and get involved in our most personal medical decisions.  We are the ones who would have to live with the policies the Republicans are advocating.  And I for one don't like them and I don't think they are what is best for this country.

Rosemary, Tesla is gorgeous!!

And I'm sorry, Beesie, but BOW is hilarious, IMNSHO. It sounds funny and it evokes funny mental images that have immediately been translated into pictures all over the web, quite a few involving the Dems, too.

If he'd said, "bring me resumes", no one would have blinked an eye and it wouldn't have been funny at all. And I don't think it matters that "binders" is a perfectly normal business term; it was the unintentionally funny juxtaposition of "binders of women" that made it an immediate internet meme, much like "I can has cheezburger?" (which is not an attack on either cheeseburgers or spelling). It's just fun and people like to have fun and sometimes that's all there is to it.

E.J. writes another good one!!!!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ej-dionne-romney-goes-from-etch-a-sketch-to-sketchy/2012/10/17/ad4edc2e-187a-11e2-9855-71f2b202721b_story.html?hpid=z2

Athena is probably reading this in hard copy....hoping you're having a better day today than yesterday.