I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited October 2012
    The Associated Press is reporting that the U.S. housing starts have jumped to their highest level since July 2008.

     

    This type of good news is all around.  You have to be willing though to accept it. 

    I'm rather sad, though surprise I think ended a good while back, about how good news is received so often by conservative people.  So very many seem to to be such fans of Fox news which it would seem by concerted efforts whip up the frenzy ( by careful re-arranging, omitted material, and total slant ) and when that is the only station you listen to ( as all my Republican family ) pretty soon you start to sound just like that channel.  Pretty soon that is all there is to you.  My family seem like so many robotical puppets and why some distance is necessary.  They are in their own little un-realistic doom and gloom ( unless their guy scores ) robotic world.   That world is way too small and narrow for me. 

     

    Jackie
  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited October 2012

    I think Jim Morrison would make a better president than Romney.  They're so sure he's dead!  Guess they haven't done enough reading on all the conspiracy theories out there.  I thought Conservatives were into conspiracy theories. Has Elvis left the building yet?    hahahahahhahaha!

    Also, the FBI had a file on Morrison.  They were afraid of him and his influence on the youth of America.  He knew exactly which buttons to push.  His IQ was 149 I believe, so he wasn't stoooopid in that regard..

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited October 2012

    yorkie,

    Congratulations on your 1 year.  It is a big deal for many reasons and I agree it's also sad.  Your chances of recurrence are dropping but facing mortality sucks.  I liked it when I was under the delusion that I would live forever without any health problems or just plain bad luck.  Now I know I won't be that woman.

    I recently had my 5 year anniversary and have 3 months and two weeks left of Aromasin.  I am still sad; sad that this happened to me, to you, to all of us.  I'm sad that it's going to happen to someone else today or tomorrow. I have finally learned that life is full of both happiness and tears.  We choose which to cling to.

    Have a good cry and then be happy because it's your one year anniversary.  Smile

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited October 2012
  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited October 2012

    Blue...love the cartoon.

    notself:   We choose which to cling to.  Truer words are not out there. 

    Jackie

  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited October 2012

    Jackie ... well said.  IMO if somebody is so detached from the lives of everyday people that they just plain cannot relate they are not a good choice to lead this country. 

    We've had the lowest tax rates in history for the wealthy for about 12 years now.  It did not tinkle down ... they did not use the extra money to expand in this country and create American jobs.  They simply pocketed the cash ... continued sending jobs to China and India etc. and stockpiled their money offshore.  They are not magically going to do otherwise if a Republican is elected President ... it's all about the money.  IMO it makes more sense to leave tax rates higher and give incentives in the form of tax deductions to encourage businesses to expand and hire more employees.  The way it is we have done just the opposite. 

    The employer threats are disgusting.  But they can't go into the voting booth with you.  And I think most people who work for the kind of company that would make such threats also (should) know that those same employers would fire them in a heartbeat for any other reason or no reason anyway without a second thought.

    I know several baby boomers who would like to retire but are still working solely because they need the health insurance.  I'm thinking that the implementation of Obamacare and the availability of health insurance for those people might also encourage retirements and improve the job market for younger people.

    Glenna ... your trip to Ireland sounds wonderful!  Hope you can get a treatment break too so you will be feeling good for it.

    Happy cancerversary to yorkiemom and blue!  My 6 years was in August.  A bunch of old timers we are.

        

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited October 2012

    Wow there was a lot to read her since I checked in yesterday morning. 

    I love the intelligent conversation.

    Mary

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited October 2012

    These are the traditional ways of conducting a campaign:

    1.  Mass Communications

    This one is easy.  Your television ads, radio ads, direct mail pieces, and even billboards should be purchased, placed, and mailed such a way as to hit your targeted voters.

    2.  Online

    Likewise, your e-mail blasts, e-newsletters, and web advertising should be targeted to your chosen voters and demographics.

    3.  Yard Signs

    Are you placing your yard signs willy-nilly?  Getting them up anywhere you can?  That’s fine if you have unlimited resources, but if you’re on a tight budget, you should be getting your yard signs up so as to be seen by your targeted voters.

    4.  Door-to-Door

    I love door-to-door, and think every candidate should do it.  Yet, too many candidates just go out an knock on every registered voter’s door, and wonder why they never got into half the district.  Target your door-knocking campaigns.

    5.  Campaign Events

    Schedule rallies, coffees, barbeques and fiestas where they will do the most good: wherever your target demographics live, work, and play.

    6.  Sign-Waving Campaigns

    Many grassroots campaigns engage in sign waving on busy corners to show enthusiasm and raise name ID.  Great, I’m all for it.  But only if those corners were chosen because of the number of targeted voters that pass by them each day.

    7.  Campaign Advisors and Boards

    Do you have a finance committee?  A campaign advisory council?  A young professionals group?  Are you making sure that at least some of the membership (and leadership!) is being drawn from your targeted groups and demographics?  Make sure leaders in your targeted communities are also leaders on your campaign!

    8.  Volunteers

    Similarly, make sure a good portion of your volunteers are from your targeted groups and areas… people who volunteer on a campaign are more likely to tell their friends and neighbors to vote for the candidate they are working for and to make sure their network goes out to vote!

     

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    This is Romney and Rove's:

     

    1. Vote Supression via Intimidation


     


     

    2. Employers intimidating workers with loss of their jobs:


     

    4. Send out Republican Operatives to register Democrats.


     

    5.  Create long lines at Precincts that have more registered Democrats (urban areas, college areas) -  where you have Republican Secretary of States or County Election Clerks sympathetic to your voter supression cause.


     

    6. Robocalls

     


     

    7.  Their misinformed voters spreading lies like "millions of illegal voters" voting.  (As an aside, I've always wanted to know the incentive for one, just one lonely non US Citizen, to try and vote.  Does that person think his or her one vote will really make a difference, and at the risk of doing something that is legal or get deported for - ofcourse there is very little incentive there!!!  And that's why there are so few actual voter fraud cases.  The real fraud is from the those running the elections, registering the voters, and counting the votes...that's where the biggest bang for the votes come from.
  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited October 2012

    LOL! Mary and Kam, I was being silly in my last post.  hehehehehehe!  But I can see him living in Africa!  

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited October 2012

    Looks like DAVirg!

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2012

    Bruce Springsteen's endorsement of President Obama for re-election.



    Yes, he IS The Boss.



    http://brucespringsteen.net/



    L

  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited October 2012

    LOL ... we've got Springsteen and they've got Hank Williams Jr. ... enough said Laughing

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2012

    Oh, but they have Ted Nugent and Lindsay Lohan, too. Guess that doesn't make it any better, though. :-)



    L

  • Belinda44
    Belinda44 Member Posts: 718
    edited October 2012
  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited October 2012

    I'll raise their Lohan with Betty White.  The way they talk about us 'libs' you would expect that we would have the druggie and drunk ones ... ummm interesting. 

  • YramAL
    YramAL Member Posts: 1,651
    edited October 2012

    Blue-Are you on restriction? I notice that a couple of your posts were removed by the moderators over there.

    Mary

  • Belinda44
    Belinda44 Member Posts: 718
    edited October 2012
  • Belinda44
    Belinda44 Member Posts: 718
    edited October 2012
  • Belinda44
    Belinda44 Member Posts: 718
    edited October 2012

    And of course, we've got George! Smile

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited October 2012

    Notself, you said it all. I have to say that while cancer sucks, but it is an amazing teacher. I think I felt the same way about my high school Geometry instructor!

    ROFL at the cartoon Blue!

  • lassie11
    lassie11 Member Posts: 1,500
    edited October 2012

    What I am wondering about is related to bosses telling their workers how to vote.  If the worker says nothing, or says s/he agrees with the boss, what is to stop them from going ahead and voting however they want? Are there different booths for different parties?  Not being a US voter, I really don't know how it works. On the other hand, it clearly is realistic intimidation and certainly the threat of being fired wouldn't work in a unionized work place. (Before others suggest that unions direct their members' votes, I hasten to add that unions might recommend, but workers decide without consequences).

    Of course the whole thing about compelling workers to turn up at rallies is a very different kettle of fish.

  • riley702
    riley702 Member Posts: 1,600
    edited October 2012

    (((Jackie))) You are a treasure. Love your posts. And yes, it's a beautiful, sunny autumn day. You make it brighter.

    lassie - there is no way the bosses could know how their employers vote.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited October 2012

    I am superstitious about cancerversaries so I never "observe" mine. Heard too many stories about people passing their 10 year mark, THEN getting mets. Strictly speaking, your chances actually go up with time, not the other way around. You are more likely to fall in the group of those who will eventually recur.

    Still, it is a lovely day, and there are always reasons to smile, as Notself and Jackie say. I can't stand serial whiners and complainers myself. There is too much to be engrossed in, too much love to give and too much to learn. Even in times of sadness, one mourns the happiness that one cannot feel but knows is there.

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited October 2012

    Good Afternoon Friends,

    Cold, dreary day in SW Virginia.  But I was able to spend some time outside shoveling up acorns and chestnut pods.  It felt really good to work up a sweat.  I've been so sad lately.

    Athena ... I love your last paragraph, and especially the last sentence.  "Even in times of sadness, one mourns the happiness that one cannot feel but knows is there."

    hugs,

    Bren

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited October 2012

    No. I'm just a trouble maker even though I was polite and respectful!

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited October 2012
  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited October 2012

    Just for today!  hahahahaahha!

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited October 2012

    Athena,

    My onc says recurrence goes down every year until about year 7-8.  Then there is a increase chance of recurrence.  They don't know why.  After about year 9 the chance of recurrence drops off again.  I think they are still gathering stats.  Your quote on your signature line really says it all.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited October 2012

    Exactly, Notself.

    So for our readers (:-) ) let's say there are 100 women who are diagnosed with bc in year one. Let's say we know that in 20 years, 25 of those women will be dead from bc or bc-related causes. Let's say 20 women have recurred by year 20. You have not. But there are only 80 "slots" of non-recurrence remaining. That means your "number" is more likely to come up. Think of it as bingo. :-)

    It sounds rather negativistic, but it's true, and it just shows you how misleading "stats" are.

    I have fairly high mortality rates from my cancer AND from my comorbidity. Death is my bed partner, but I turn over on the other side, and I see life.

    Happy celebrations to all of those sisters who are observing another year of kinship on this earth.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited October 2012

    I, like Romney/Ryan, don't get the maths!! Undecided

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