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  • teeballmom
    teeballmom Member Posts: 322
    edited October 2012

    I'm so happy for you Virginiab!!!!!!!!

  • stride
    stride Member Posts: 470
    edited October 2012

    http://www.cheemo.com/

    Cheemo potato pierogies. Sure, why not? 

  • _Ann_
    _Ann_ Member Posts: 769
    edited October 2012

    Oh my goodness stride-- what an unfortunate brand name.  What were they thinking?

  • virginiab
    virginiab Member Posts: 205
    edited October 2012

    Thanks to everyone who is helping me celebrate the benign thyroid biopsy!

    I had a wierd chemo response in that my very dry and itchy skin got less itchy during chemo -- and maybe less dry. Now three weeks and 2 days post final chemo, my skin is itchy in all the usual spots again. Pretty harmless,but just wierd that chemo would affect that....

    I hope folks are having a good weekend, with few side effects (wierd or otherwise).

  • emilybrooke
    emilybrooke Member Posts: 98
    edited October 2012

    Terrific news Virginia!

  • Itsalltemporary
    Itsalltemporary Member Posts: 38
    edited October 2012
    Virginiab - somehow I missed the news that you had your last chemo - congrats on being on the other side!!! What is next for you? Are you doing radiation? Looks like we have similar diagnoses and I am curious as to what your doctor has recommended. I have my last round of TC on Thurs and then on to radiation.
  • natL12
    natL12 Member Posts: 135
    edited October 2012

    Dear friends....I kept seeing the abbreviation "pfc" and was too lazy to look it up.  I see it means "post final chemo".  I imagined it meant

    post &*&(! chemo.  Bad language. Bad attitude.  Nat

  • virginiab
    virginiab Member Posts: 205
    edited October 2012

    NatL--

    the first time I saw PFC I inserted what I thought was the most appropriate word for the F, just as you did. But here at least it does (as you suspected) mean Post FINAL Chemo.

     ItsAllTemporary--

    Yup, like you, I am on my way to radiation. I have had the initial consult with the RO and the session with the CT scan and many Sharpie marks on my breast. Now I am waiting (none too patiently!) to get called in for the initial check in the real rads room and then get started (and get done....). In addition to posting here, I am also posting on the Fall Rads board and have begun reading a long Post Radiation board to learn more....

  • teeballmom
    teeballmom Member Posts: 322
    edited October 2012

    NatL:  I thought the same thing.  Laughing

    Virginiab:  Good luck with rads!

    Itsalltemporary:  Good luck with your last TC!

  • SusanHG123
    SusanHG123 Member Posts: 414
    edited October 2012

    Need some help/advice from those who are on Taxol. Have had my 3rd dose with Herceptin. Am now on neupogin to keep white counts up as was too neutropenic a couple of weeks ago. 

    Now am really having bone and muscle pain. Not just across my upper back and hip and shoulder area-but knees, groin, arms. Seems everyplace. Waking me up at night. I have meds for routine and break through--but so hate to take them. When I do--I take just to take the edge off so I can work (tell my docs am of strong Iowa German stock). Of course I then worried about mets versus SEs of chemo and neupogen but really feel it is SEs. 

    For those of you who are further along--is this expected? I tried to go back through the threads--but....

    I had a lot of bone pain with neulasta but was not expecting the neupogin to be worse. I am really frustrated. Feel like all I do is whine about one thing or another. I know 9 more is not that many in the over all scheme--but 9 more weeks of this seems unending right now. And 3 injections a week--each site from this week still is achy and sore. 

    Emily I thought of you Friday when someone asked me if I was still on chemo. My mind said "really dumb ass" my mouth said "oh can you tell?". 

    One of the EMS guys in my division gave me a pink Leatherman (for those like me who did not know--better than a swiss army knife). I told him I could now stab people with pink tools :) So far almost my favorite! 

    A peaceful sleep to my dear friends.  

  • teeballmom
    teeballmom Member Posts: 322
    edited October 2012

    Susan: I am having Taxol weekly with weekly Herceptin but am not receiving neupogin. My ONC is watching my counts very closely and my white blood cells are slowly creeping up on their own. As far as pain, I am experiencing some minor pain across my chest and tightness of my muscles but nothing too bad. The tightness does seem to be increasing but I am told it's normal. I am going to speak with my ONC this week about the pain around my chest, though. It seems like the numbness I have from my surgery is slowly going away.

  • roadwarrior28
    roadwarrior28 Member Posts: 301
    edited October 2012

    Susan - I do bi-weekly Taxol and Neulasta, no neupogin. I have muscle and bone pain after every treatment - yesterday felt like someone was driving a nail into my foot. Thankfully, it's all been temporary.

  • _Ann_
    _Ann_ Member Posts: 769
    edited October 2012

    Susan, I'm just going for my first Neupogen today.  I don't remember information about it either.  I'm not even sure if Claritin works for it like it does for Neulasta.  I plan to ask them today.  Can you call your nurse's line and see what they can tell you?

  • Madelyn
    Madelyn Member Posts: 93
    edited October 2012

    Susan,

    I am on weekly Taxol, this week will be #7 (out of 12).  I am not receiving herceptin nor neupogen.  I am currently only taking Caltrate with vitamin D, I am not on any other supplements.  My blood counts are good.  My only problem is the restless leg on the day of treatment.  I'm up all night(steroids) and then crash the next day, otherwise I'm doing okay.  I am very careful about touching things that are too hot/cold.  My onc told me anything extreme will upset the nerves in my legs/feet/hands.  It may sound like over-pampering but it works for me.  I noticed after going to the bathroom barefoot in the middle of the night, I would get back into bed and my feet would tingle...that was due to the cold floor.  I now keep slippers by the bed.  I'm a real go barefoot kind of girl but not anymore.  Some days after walking too much my knees will ache but nothing major...I try not to cross my legs when sitting down.  Epsom salt baths are also a soothing comfort.  My eyebrows and eye lashes are super thinned--nails are still good and clear. 

    I have had some numbness under my arm where some lymph nodes were taking out but that seems to be going away..tissue expanders are getting more tolerable.  Every once in a while at night, I roll on my stomach, I wake up very quickly afterward and notice my heart racing more than normal.  It calms down again...  

    As far as taxol being cumultive, it hasn't been that way for me...I felt better as more time went by...mreaning the further I got away from AC, the better I felt.  The nurses told me the steroids with Taxol are almost doubled from the AC treatments...maybe that explains the 8 pounds I've gained!! 

    I hope this finds everyone doing well ....xoxo 

  • _Ann_
    _Ann_ Member Posts: 769
    edited October 2012

    Madelyn that's encouraging to hear that you felt better over time on Taxol.   I was pretty discouraged after #1, but feel better after #2 already.

    Susan for what it's worth they told me today to use Tylenol for Neupogen.  Claritin isn't recommended.  They said the bone pain should be less than Neulasta.  But I already have some bone pain from Taxol alone, so maybe you're experiencing the combo of the two?  I hope you can get some relief soon. 

  • Maddie57
    Maddie57 Member Posts: 296
    edited October 2012

    Hi Ladies- am off on holiday tomorrow, so this is a quick goodbye. Susan - I had the same symptoms you had, only I was on Neulasta, You forgot to mention the aching jaws with the SE's. I was never sure which medication was the culprit, but you must continue with one of the white cell boosters if your blood work is off.

    Road warrior - I had the same thing with one foot. What the *** is that! Why one foot? This is weird stuff we are taking!

    I will be checking up on you all when I get back. My thoughts and prayers are with you all. Take care. 

  • PaEaglesFan
    PaEaglesFan Member Posts: 277
    edited October 2012

    Finished chemo (6 wks pfc) and started rads (14/36) and my BP is starting to creep up to numbers I don't like.  Has anyone else had issues with it?

  • emilybrooke
    emilybrooke Member Posts: 98
    edited October 2012

    Had my 3rd round of Taxol yesterday and 5th round of Herceptin with it. No Neulasta shot for me this go around - thank goodness because last time it kicked my butt. Met with oncologist yesterday who was very surprised to heard that I am leaning towards no rads - against the recommendation of the board. SHe encouraged me to get a second opinion before committing to this choice. I asked a lot of questions regarding stats about my staging, lymph node involvement and chance of recurrence if I choose to do rads vs. not and sadly she was unable to provide any. This upset me because I've looked for studies on Sloan Kettering's site, Johns Hopkins, and MD Anderson - having little luck I thought that my oncologist of all people might be able to provide this. So I will be looking for a doctor to get a second opinion and still awiting news from my breast surgeon who requested that the pathology dept re-examine my slides.

    In other news, I started one-on-one counseling last week. Having never done this before, I found it very interesting and look forward to this week's appt. Tonight, I will be attending a support group meeting which meets twice each month - once for group discussion the second time for meditation/guided imagery and then reiki. I will you know how it goes.

    Susan - please try not use your new gift on anyone no matter what dumbass comments comes flying out of their mouth. I'm not sure they'll let you use the chatboards from prison ;)

  • virginiab
    virginiab Member Posts: 205
    edited October 2012

    emilyb--

    Good for you for continuing to pursue the question of radiation. It surely seems mysterious to me (Not a doctor!) why the tumor board favors it. Is it just because you are young and they figure to be as aggressive as possible because any stray cells have a lot of years to grow? Or are they just afraid of lawsuits? Or what?

    A second (and possible third) opinion seems like a great idea!

  • SusanHG123
    SusanHG123 Member Posts: 414
    edited October 2012

    Maddie-enjoy your holiday! Every minute!

    Thank you ladies for responding about Taxol. I visited with the nurses today when I went for the lab draw. Seems I am in the throws of complexities of SEs of both Taxol and neupogen. I had jaw aches with neulasta but so far not with neupogen. Today--the day prior to chemo--the constant pain has eased--so a better day. It was nice to have a day with a bit of a break. Have had to push fluids today as I let myself get a bit dry the past couple of days. Will be glad to look back @ Taxol as I look back @ AC. 

    Madelyn--will ask about the steroids. The day of chemo and the day following are my "steroidal" days. I am awake and prowling--but get nothing done. Am also a barefoot person and having to be careful as the skin on my feet is now peeling in sheets. So very attractive....

    Hugs to all

  • emilybrooke
    emilybrooke Member Posts: 98
    edited October 2012

    Virginia - yes, it is because of my age. The doctors want to be sure that nothing is lingering. However, I thought that was what the chemotherapy was for. I am still awaiting the re-read of my path slides and have started looking for rad onc outside of the hospital I am with for additional opinions.

  • PaEaglesFan
    PaEaglesFan Member Posts: 277
    edited October 2012

    Emily, the best way surgery/chemo/rads was explained to me is to think of it the same way you treat your yard for weeds. (Thistle or dandelion work well for this visualization!)  Surgery, you remove the weed.  Radiation is like a spot treatment of weed killer to get rid of any root that might be left behind and chemo is like an all over spray you use to keep the seeds that might have floated away from growing somewhere else and starting new problems.

  • mamabr
    mamabr Member Posts: 83
    edited October 2012

    Susan - I was also having bone pain after Taxol treatments. It hasn't been unbearable, but shots of pain through my legs and lower back. I go in today to (hopefully) start back up on the Taxol treatments. I have missed 2 weeks because my counts were too low. Hopefully they don't cancel again. 

    I've been having a really hard week, just feeling down. I'm a cpa and this is the first October 15th I've missed in more than 20 years. 10/15 is the final deadline for tax filings. Most of my friends think I am crazy to miss it, they don't even want me to go back for next tax season, too stressful for me. So many people at work helped to finish client returns, many difficult (or not so difficult, but chaotic) returns with years of information stuck in my head. I feel so badly and guilty that I wasn't there to help. I know it is totally inefficient for me to be there, I think many of you can understand how I feel. I'll get out of this slump..........I just feel so inept at everything!

    Hopefully I get started again today and can stay on the weekly schedule. Hugs to everyone!

  • PaEaglesFan
    PaEaglesFan Member Posts: 277
    edited October 2012

    mambr, I've worked in both a Tax office and an IRA department in a bank, so I well know the rush you get from the rush of the seasons.  Maybe if you aren't up to going back full time for the next tax season, you might be able to help out with fielding phone calls or something less 'taxing' than returns?  Laughing
    I hope your counts are back up so you can get on with the process and get back to life.

  • _Ann_
    _Ann_ Member Posts: 769
    edited October 2012

    mamabr, hugs to you.  It's tough to be sidelined by this thing while life and work goes on without us.  I hope your counts are up today and you get your treatment.  

    There was a huge layoff at my office this week and I won't get to be there to say goodbye to people I've worked with for up to 12 years.  When/if I do go back next year it will just be a shell of the former place.

  • Lifeonitsside
    Lifeonitsside Member Posts: 250
    edited October 2012

    So many of us are struggling with loss and missing things. I miss my guy so much, even though it's only been a week or so. Been blogging about loss, etc., lately because there's so much of it going on.



    The good news I got today was from my physical therapist. Showing no real signs of lymphedema, excellent range of motion and she even gave me compression sleeve and glove that she had on hand since I can't afford to buy them. So just waiting to see how many sessions I get with her.



    Hang in there, ladies. I can't wait to see where we all are in six months.

  • Madelyn
    Madelyn Member Posts: 93
    edited October 2012

    Mamabr- I hope those counts go up and I'm sorry about work. Its hard to build a reputation of being dedicated/committed worker only to have to stand back now.



    Emily- good for you for being your best advocate. Keep us up to date on how the counseling goes.



    PAeagles- I really liked the radiation/gardening comparison.



    Well today was Taxol #7, all is well...



    However I did experience 2 or 3 pains in my big toe last night, very similar to Roadwarrior, when I woke up my big toe was 65% black....crazy huh? But I looked in the mirror and there was peach fuzz on my head.....my hair is growing back. The Taxol thread I follow said it COULD fall out again but it may not....



    I hope everyone is doing well

  • Madelyn
    Madelyn Member Posts: 93
    edited October 2012

    Lifeonitsside- you are a true survivor, thanks for sharing your personal experiences. I hope it helps to write about it, because you just come across as a rock star and so deserve to be happy....

  • mamabr
    mamabr Member Posts: 83
    edited October 2012

    Hi all - thanks for the kind words. I was okay for treatment, which was good. Now I'm just resting at home. One step at a time, I will get over these moody blues. Have a nice evening everyone!

  • teeballmom
    teeballmom Member Posts: 322
    edited October 2012

    Well, finished Taxol #7 today!  Yay!!!!  Having some pains on my right side both under my armpit area and breast bone area.  I swear I felt a lump in the armpit area there last night so although I wasn't meeting with my ONC today, her physician's assistant examined me and when she touched the sensitive area, OMG I thought I would scream.  She didn't feel a lump, says it's bone and believes that it may be some scar tissue from my mastectomy back in May.  She says the cancer was all removed and the active treatment I am receiving is killing any of those cancer cells that are maybe hanging around but my mind is on the go with horrible thoughts of recurrence.  I am one of those women who had breast and underarm pain before being diagnosed so this pain right now is bringing back those memories.  Also, being so close to the end of weekly treatments is also weighing on my mind because I'm getting worried about this safety blanket I feel I have right now with this very doable Taxol treatment.  So, my ONC is meeting with me next treatment day and she's going to check me out herself.  She walked over to me today during my treatment and gave me a big hug and apologized for not being able to see me herself since her father had just past away.

    I'm keeping my fingers crossed that everything is good.

    Take care and minimal or no SE's for everyone!!!!!!

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