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  • LisaMomOfFour
    LisaMomOfFour Member Posts: 465
    edited August 2012

    I've been absent for awhile... my new job is keeping me busy.  That and getting the kids ready for back to school, seems like every day is bringing so much stuff to do.  This is our last year with child care... we have had the same nanny for years and years and she is a member of the family.  But my youngest (the twins) are in their final year of elementary school, so next year this time, we will be saying goodbye.  That means I am trying to get us all to a more indepedent place, having her work fewer hours this summer, and that means more laundry and cooking for me (and, well, I'll be honest, I kind of suck at the domestic thing.... I am a much better software developer than a cook.....).  

    I just put together the schedule for the fall, and now that my children are older, all of their extracurricular activities are later in the evenings, so EVERY night has at least two of the kids being shuttled to and from dance class, tumbling class, cello lessons, you name it......  

    So this means NO time.  I haven't run for a few weeks now, last weekend I walked 8 miles which felt WONDERFUL.  How do I work this running routine back into my life?  I am up at 6, get the kids up, drive my son to cross country at seven, leave for work by 7:15, home by 6pm, cook, drive and drop like a stone around 9-10pm when I finally get a few minutes to myself.  I can't say that weekends are any better.  I know I sound like I'm complaining, and I suppose I am.  When I was first diagnosed I reminded myself that being super busy was NOT a real problem, not like a cancer diagnosis.  

    How do you find the time?  I would love to exercise at work, but I'm only there from 8-5, and IT, well, it's an overtime heavy culture, I can't justify stepping away fom my desk.  AND I sweat so much when I'm running I have to cool off and stop sweating before I shower, and that makes it a start to finish 75 minute activity.  

    Looking for advice... HOW do people do this?   

  • CLC
    CLC Member Posts: 1,531
    edited August 2012

    Lisa...I have two young children and work full time, from September until June.  It is NOT easy.  First, my rule is...if I can exercise, I will.  Ten minutes here, ten minutes there.  That is added up as my non-intense, cross-training time.  Second, I often drag myself out of bed before everyone else in the morning and run.  Third, there is a gym right by where both my children dance.  I go to the gym while they dance.  Other moms are grocery shopping or running errands then.  I don't.  My husband does that.  Which brings me to the fourth and most important thing.  I couldn't do it if I didn't have the utmost support of my family.  They have allowed me to put exercise toward the top of the list.  I made my dh understand that I needed him to not only say "okay."  I needed him to remind me that exercise was important and to offer up to do things so that I could.  The kids also have come to understand that I need to put myself first in this way.  It was very hard for me to do that at first.  I felt constant guilt.  But now, the kids and my dh see the difference.  I have lost 50 pounds and look pretty good.  More importantly to them, I am a pain in the butt, stressed out, nagging, short-tempered mom and wife if I don't get my running and swimming fix.  Once they saw their self-interest, they started suggesting I go for a run...lol

    There are weeks that I get almost no exercise.  It happens.  And, my house is not as clean as it used to be.  And, not all of the grocery shopping is done exactly as I would do it.  And, there are times my kids would rather it was me than Dad taking care of something.  But I am a whole lot more whole as a person.

    It is not easy.  It is a matter of priorities.  And I am very fortunate to have my husband's support. 

  • firstcall
    firstcall Member Posts: 499
    edited August 2012

    Dougieswife - what is the name of the 5K you are going to do? Its on the calendar now, so you have to do it!


    KY - and what is the name of your 5K? You're on the calendar too!

     So.....have a son getting married this week.  Makes for a hectic time.  I overdid it getting things ready, and my arm got a little swollen.  So, back in the compression garments, and I'm having to let others do more.  Thats not easy.  

  • LisaMomOfFour
    LisaMomOfFour Member Posts: 465
    edited August 2012

    CLC -- Thank you for the suggestions.  I'm going to give some of those a try, fortunately my husband is very supportive, just unfortunately as busy as I am!  

    I'll report back next week... my goal is to walk / run at least once during the week, and once on the weekend all through the month of August, if I can figure out how to make that a habit, I can ramp up.  

  • marie11
    marie11 Member Posts: 75
    edited August 2012

    12 miles today. Hot and humid. Still great to be able to be out there.



    Lisa, I have 4 kids too and it isn't easy. You just have to make yourself a priority. Your health, fitness and sanity are as important as anyone else's needs.



    That said I get up at 4:30 - 5:30 everyday to get it done before I am responsible for everyone else. Get the kids to do the chores. It is easier to just do it than to let the kids learn at first, but in time the investment pays off.

  • blackjack
    blackjack Member Posts: 1,010
    edited August 2012

    HI Running Girls...question has anyone had a tibial stress syndrome. Developed swelling and pain in my right leg. I am wearing a air splint but I don't think it is helping. I had an xray and it was negative. I was told no running and I am very sad.:(

    Just looking for some answers....thanks

    Blackjack

  • kks_rd
    kks_rd Member Posts: 363
    edited August 2012

    Hi everyone!  I haven't been on in a while (also very busy!) and am amazed to see all the new names here. Welcome to all!!

    Here's a short update. I'd been working up to half marathon distances these past several weeks in hopeful anticipation of completing the Rochester HM on September 23rd.  Last week I did a long run on Monday (for the previous week, I'd been traveling) and it was atrocious.  The location was hilly it was like 85 degrees and full sun; although I had a goal to go 10-11 miles I ended up walking every mile or so and eventually kind of ran out of steam.  Saturday was better; I got out early and did 10.8 miles, but I still needed to walk every 1.5-2 miles.

    The needing to walk thing has been consistent for the past 6 weeks or so, and is pretty discouraging.  Have tried varying/slowing my speed but it hasn't seemed to help; I think it will come with experience, maybe just not this season.  I mean, I don't care except that I've heard this is not looked well upon by "real" runners (depending on the race of course).  And I only have like six weeks left!  Between the heat and the time commitment, I'm not taking for granted that it takes a LOT to train properly.

    So when I got back from my Saturday run to find an email from a friend who asked if I would like to be a part of her Marathon Relay team, it immediately felt like the right decision.  Each leg is between 6 and 7.5 miles which I know I can do.  And this group of women is all about having fun - I told my friend my usual race pace and she said I'll fit right in. :)

    So, firstcall, please sign me up for the Rochester Marathon Relay on 9/23.  The team name is "Sole Sisters," cute huh?

    I think I will still continue to work on longer-distance goals. If it turns out I can do the 13.1 by this fall, I might sign up for a HM in a nearby city.  But I've also signed up for a new gym (they're building it now, it opens this fall) that has a pool and all kinds of different classes, so I think I'm going to do some different stuff.  I've had some pain in my left heel and I suspect it's plantar fasciitis.

    In the end though, this whole thing is about feeling fit and having fun (right??) - and I'm getting what I need on both counts.

    Hope everyone's doing well out there!  This afternoon should be a lovely 4-miler in more pleasant temps.....

  • marie11
    marie11 Member Posts: 75
    edited August 2012

    Tibial stress syndrome = shin splints. Basically, it is a bit more complicated than that depending on exactly where you have the most pain. Generally cause by changing running surfaces, increasing milage or pace too quickly, and bad shoes.



    Bad shoes means bad for you. What might be a great pair for one runner can be a disaster for another. Head to a running store to get fitted. Well worth the cost.



    Strengthen the muscles on the front of your leg. Sit on a table and put an ankle weight on your foot and flex your toes up. Also stretching front of leg, ankle circles will help with that.



    Most I know "run" through this injury. That prob depends on the severity of your pain. Walk, jog slowly, if it hurts go back to walking. Decrease overall distance and pace until you are pain free. Doubt splint will help.



  • sptmm62
    sptmm62 Member Posts: 665
    edited August 2012

    Hi Everyone, I just found this thread and would like to drop in.  I was a non-exerciser prior to my diagnosis.  After treatment I was told by my onco that exercise would help me recover quicker, so I joined the gym and started to exercise.  That was February of 2011.  This year, after losing 50 additional lbs., I decided to try the challenge of running, which was something I always hated.  I made it 1/2 mile in March of 2012 when I first tried but I kept at it, running once or twice a week.  I ran my first 5K in May and have run two since.  I am currently training for my first 10K which would have been in October.  I will, however, most likely be having a BMX at the end of August so I will have to postpone that.  It is very encouraging to read the various restrictions put on everyone by the plastic surgeons.  I will meet my plastic surgeon for the first time on Monday and intend on asking straight away how my activities will be restricted.  I like the fact that everyone could walk relatively soon after the operation.  I would be okay with that, as long as I can exercise in some way...(LOL I have become addicted).  Hopefully when I get back to running I will not have lost too much (I am up to about 5-1/2 miles 1-2 times a week now), but I know that if I could go from 1/2 mile to 5-1/2 miles in five months I could do it again and be ready for the Spring. Any advice would be welcome!

    P.S. The avatar is a picture of me (with my medal) after finishing my very first race.  It was a very proud day for me.  Most people couldn't believe I actually could do it!

  • NatsFan
    NatsFan Member Posts: 3,745
    edited August 2012

    Getting my fall 5K schedule in order - signed up for stuff this morning so these can be added to the list for me, in addition to the Color Run 5K in DC on 10/21:

    9/16 - Ft. McHenry Tunnel 5K Run - Baltimore, MD (Runs through the I-95 tunnel under Baltimore Harbor and Ft. McHenry - where the "bombs bursting in air" were during the War of 1812 inspiring Francis Scott Key to write the Star Spangled Banner. I've never run "underwater" before! Wink)

    9/30 - Ovarian Cancer Awareness 5K - Annapolis, MD

    10/13 - Breast Cancer 5K - Gettysburg, PA (part of the run goes through the Gettysburg Battlefield - can you tell I'm a history buff?)

    Now I need to find a local Turkey Trot and some sort of Jingle Bell run to finish out the year!

  • RachelMarr
    RachelMarr Member Posts: 4
    edited August 2012

    Hi,

    New to this but google search about running during & after radioT brought me here.

    Avid runner - before diagnosis had ran 1/2 marathons & my typical week would be 2 runs, covering 7 mile & a 10mile.

    Have now completed my radioT and 3wks on I'm still struggling to get back into a routine. Ive experienced 'dry chest' during & after the radio (taking a deep breath has its discomforts & can only liken it to breathing hot air if in a sauna) and wonder if this is contributing to my inconsistent runs. Ive managed some 10ks, one 10miler but today got 1.5 miles into the run before my chest felt as though it was on fire!

    Does anyone have any advice or have experienced similar?

  • sptmm62
    sptmm62 Member Posts: 665
    edited August 2012

    Okay, I just signed up for what will probably be my last 5K for awhile due to the surgery. August 18, a breast cancer fundraiser, Hope Lives Here. 

  • mariannm
    mariannm Member Posts: 32
    edited August 2012

    Starting Week 3 of the Couch to 5K program tomorrow.   My weeks are a little long....everytime I go in for an adjustment to my expanders, I have a 4 -5 day set back.    I think I have about 6 or 8 weeks left of that , then my replacement surgery.   I figure as soon as I get that scheduled then I will decide on my 5 k goal.   Hard to believe that less than a year ago, I was up to an 8 mile 'long run' and had know clue I 'd be coming up on BMX.  I sure missed running, and it's something I'm looking forward to getting back into.   I think it will be good for my mental state too.

  • mariannm
    mariannm Member Posts: 32
    edited August 2012

    Hello Lisa Mom of four--  I started running in MAy of 2011, worked up to about 20 miles a week and then had,  my diagnosis and surgery.   I only have 3 kids (5, 8, 11), but work full time (and then some), as does my husband, plus all of the extracurricular activities that go along with it.    I also drop like a rock at night.  What has worked for me is getting up earlier.  I get up at 5:00 AM and after a 30 min run, with 5 min warm up and cool down, that gets me back in the shower in time.   It's hard at first, but I always feel so good afterwards that I keep remember that aspect.  

    I had my BMX in June, so started back a few weeks ago, and taking it very slowly, but back to the 5 AM starting point.   I find that it's a 'darned if you do, darned if you don't type of thing.   It's sooooo exhausting getting up early, but once you hang in there for awhile, it gives you that extra energy.

    I also have a neighbor that goes with me sometimes.   that EXTREMELY helpful, cuz I know she'll be waiting for me and I don't want bail on her.

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited August 2012

    Hi all - I've been rocking the aircast boot and it's been helping so much. However this week I am at a construction site all week in safety shoes and so no cast. Standing all day and more walking than I should really do. I don't really have the option to skip the work and just hope to avoid setbacks on healing. But the safety shoes are pretty rigid themselves and it has not been too bad from what I can tell. I'm keeping off my feet off-hours and have been to the pool.

    I'm going to pick up the shirt for the Midsummer Night's Run this weekend but I will not be getting the medal :-(

  • marie11
    marie11 Member Posts: 75
    edited August 2012

    On vacation and still managing to get in some good runs. Still prob gained 2 pounds. So far it looks good for a tri on sept 8th and a half marathon sept 16th. Struggling to find the right pace for me. It is still slower than before surgery. I used to just know what the right pace was for my conditioning now I just can't seem to find it. The half should at least give me an idea of where I am and what to expect in a full.



    I can't say enough about swimming and how much it has helped me with muscle spasms (back and chest), pain (shoulder and arm), and muscle weakness (shoulder and chest).



    Anyone have recommendations of where to stay for NYC marathon? Signed up for the ferry to get to the start, but think walking distance from finish might be good.



  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited August 2012

    sign me up for August 18th...5k United Way race in Wooster, Ohio....haven't been on this thread for awhile...will try to catch up..hoping everyone is doing well and improving their times!  It is has been so hot in Ohio but still trying to run....a little stinky...lol

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited August 2012

    any tips you can give me would be great...I'm trying to lower my shoulders..well...relax them and move my arms more.  trying to stretch out my legs when running...but this takes alot of concentration which I really don't have alot of anymore...I have a hard time focusing and have to snap myself back into thinking...gah...its rough

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited August 2012

    kayb I have had acupuncture. I can't say it did a darned thing, but it was cool. My back pain went magically away with 12 hours of general anaesthesia with my DIEP! A miracle relaxer! I can understand why Michael Jackson would do that! Other than that, PT has helped more than massage therapy or chiropractic for the various soft tissue kinks for me. I also am using that kinesiotape. I've had it put on for lymphedema (stretched skin, unstretched tape, thin strips), on scars (stretched tape), and on muscles (anchored and stretched combinations). It may be voodoo but at the very least, it creates a gentle reminder of posture to reinforce innate proprioception.

    Titan, what's with the stretching out the legs while running? We were having some discussion not far back in this thread about shortening the stride as the secret to good time and injury prevention. Curious what you mean.

  • LisaMomOfFour
    LisaMomOfFour Member Posts: 465
    edited August 2012

    Marianm -- Thank you for the encouragement.  I am hearing from more and more people that it's the morning or not at all.... by the time the pressure of the day is upon me... well, I won't make the time.  So 5am it is.  I'll let you all know how I'm doing in about a week... I hope to at least run twice in that time, and now that I've typed that I've committed to it!  

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited August 2012

    gold...my son told me to to widen my stride when running...it does make me go faster but yeah it does hurt a little...when watching the Olympics I saw how long the strides were...course they are in shape and I'm not even there yet...he said to shorten the strides up a hill and widen them out down a hill...

  • sptmm62
    sptmm62 Member Posts: 665
    edited August 2012

    Thanks for the kind words and advice Kayb.  I was thinking the same thing about the recovery.  Start walking  and eventually work back up to running at the PS allows.  That is how I began this fitness journey too, walking through chemo. 

    Finished my 3rd 5K this morning, shaved 3 minutes off the time I ran for the last one in May! Looking forward to attempting the 10K in October. 

    I have some issues with anemia and a GI bleed, so the BMX will have to be pushed back till October.  But that means I can run some races, including my first 10K, in the meantime.  Thats the silver lining.

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited August 2012

    Ah I see, Titan. I saw the elite marathoners at the London marathon, including some Olympians, and they really do move. I do extend stride downhill and shorten uphill, but am trying to increase steps per minute on the flat because that seems to be a key to faster times.

    That's all theoretical at the moment, since for the past while, I have not run at all because of the toe injury and recently the air cast on it. However, I DID THE 15K!

    I finished in 2:20 and it was astonishing how many people I passed. I don't seem to have any ill effects from the activity on the injured foot, just a little twinge in the hip from the asymmetry in leg length (shoe height) and some tightness in my neck that I had before. I also still have tightness in the abdomen where the DIEP donor site is still tight, and I particularly felt it on the running-shoe side that had longer to travel than the cast side but there's nothing to do but keep stretching it. I was worried about developing blisters inside the cast with the socks bunching and it being sweaty, however I fussed with the sock just past the 1km point and decided to hang in there. As I approached 3km, the course goes out into a narrow spit that extends into Lake Ontario, with boats on one side and the city skyline with the sunset behind it off in the distance on the other, and looking forward to the 7.5km point turning around at the lighthouse, people all dressed in fairy apparel (with the Midsummer Night's theme), it was so peaceful. I haven't had much time to myself lately due to no running and I think the endorphin surge and the atmosphere just carried me. I am glad I did it. I needed the me-time. The medal is nice too!

    Congratulations on the 5K and time improvement sptmm62! Looking forward to the run report from firstcall too! 

  • firstcall
    firstcall Member Posts: 499
    edited August 2012

    Well, A Milestone for sure.  

    I ran my first race since Chemo.  It was a half marathon.  I'm also the race director.  Its a small group, sponsored by our running club.  We had about 100 people and you could choose your distance, half marathon, marathon or 50K.  Since I was directing the race too, and since it was my first race since Chemo, I just did the half marathon.  It went well, and I felt great.  It was a trail run, on a paved trail along the Sammamish River just north of Seattle.  I knew I wouldnt be fast, and I decided that time didnt matter.   But I really hoped to be under 2 1/2 hours.  I finished in 2:21.  I knew many of the runners, and they were incredibly supportive.  Hopefully I can build on this and get back to the full marathon soon.

  • sptmm62
    sptmm62 Member Posts: 665
    edited August 2012
    Wow, firstcall, that is impressive!  You are obviously well on your way to recovering from the chemo.  I am working my way up to 1/2 marathon.  First is 10K then probably next year for the half marathon.
  • willy5js5
    willy5js5 Member Posts: 140
    edited August 2012

    First run post DIEP and I'm pleased that distance was well maintained but very disappointed in my pace.  Felt wonderful to get back to it though, really really really wonderful! 3.68 mi/60 minutes - over 16 pace:(

  • mariannm
    mariannm Member Posts: 32
    edited August 2012

    Your stories are all so encouraging!!!   A 15k, a half marathon, it's so wonderful to know that this is only a tiny , little setback!   I finished my Week 3 of couch 2 5k this morning.   Had my expanders increased this afternoon, so it will be a few days before I run again.  I still manage to feel guilty about doing the run/walk thing, but I found that if I increase my pace for those short stretches, it's satisfying , and feels more like I'm doing speedwork.   Whatever works, right?

     Lisamomoffour, I 'll keep a look out for your posts.....give yourself a few weeks before you make a decision one way or another.  you will feel very tired for the first few days, but it gets easier.

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited August 2012

    You'll get there, Anita. Just keep at it. Isn't the time out just wonderful, no matter what the pace?

    Good work mariannm with week 3!

  • willy5js5
    willy5js5 Member Posts: 140
    edited August 2012

    Yes goldlining, love that time out. I have to get a better bra before I stretch it out and take off too. Way too much action going on with my bali bra today.

  • LuvLuLu
    LuvLuLu Member Posts: 377
    edited August 2012

    willy5js5, I hear you.  My TRAM was 5 weeks ago and I'm out walking every day.  I throw in a few very easy jogs, though I probably shouldn't . . . but I too wonder if I'll ever get back to my former pace.  Then I think back to minor injuries I've had in the past and when I start back the pace is always slow but it eventually comes.  And this time, I remind myself, my body is recovering from MAJOR SURGERY - I'm still healing from the trauma!  So hopefully someday my pace will improve.

     In the meantime, it's wonderful to be out there walking and taking in the sights and sounds and smells.  That in itself is healing!

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