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  • Belinda977
    Belinda977 Member Posts: 381
    edited July 2012

    Started running again about 2 weeks ago. Slow progress but it is progress.  I walk 2 minutes (at least 4 mph) and then run for 2 minutes (try for 6 mph).  I usually do this for about 3.1 miles.  It was only almost 2 months that I didn't run but the endurance is taking some time.  The heat doesn't help either.   

  • CLC
    CLC Member Posts: 1,531
    edited July 2012

    Wow, Hello to all the new folks!

    Well, today was my first run with my new orthotics.  Oh my gosh!!  NO PAIN in my left foot.  NONE.  ZERO.  ZILCH.  That's never happened before.  Let's hear it for the orthopedic surgeon and her prescribed orthotics.  WoooHoooo!!!  I didn't want to overdo my first run with them because I was worried that I'd be using new muscles or something, so I ran for about 4 miles.  It was wonderful.

    I hope this finds you all well, and happily running...

    Claire

  • eulabt
    eulabt Member Posts: 194
    edited July 2012

    Hi all, I have been MIA because of an injury that is not getter better as quick as I would like. I have achilles tendonitis, which I can deal with. I think i also have a strees fracture. Firstcall- if you see this, could you pull my name off for the ING NYC Marathon. I hated to back out, but there is no way that i can train properly in 12 weeks. I hope to be back to running soon:)

  • kks_rd
    kks_rd Member Posts: 363
    edited July 2012

    So sorry Eula!!  What a bummer Frown

    I'm still kind of working towards my possible HM goal... yesterday went for my longest run yet, just short of 11 miles, with something around a 1-block walk break every 3 or so miles.  I figure I ran at least 10 miles.  Afterwards, I had to run some errands and every time I had to get out of the car I all but groaned! LOL quite sore afterwards but this morning I felt fine once I got going.

    I've been readinng along and it's always so great to hear of people's progress... keep it coming!

  • Belinda977
    Belinda977 Member Posts: 381
    edited July 2012

    Yesterday I was able to run for 3 minutes and walk 2 in intervals for 3.2 miles.  I am getting there.  Can't wait to be able to run the entire distance again!

  • eulabt
    eulabt Member Posts: 194
    edited July 2012

    kks_kd- 11 miles is awesome! Congrats! I can't wait until I can run again:(

  • firstcall
    firstcall Member Posts: 499
    edited July 2012

    eulabt - I made the calendar adjustment.  Hope you are back in the full swing soon.  

    Also....I think some of you have races you should put on the calendar.  Go ahead, make the commitment!   

  • fredntan
    fredntan Member Posts: 1,821
    edited July 2012

    I have a question for you'll. I am just starting back on my recovery.



    I am going out shopping for one of those good sports bras mentioned up there. But is there anything to even me out. Left side is droopy D, and rt has TE,maybe B. I have a prosthetic,"chicken cutlet" but its hot and I don't like wearing it. I want to be able to wear something not hot.

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited July 2012
    fredntan, look for a Been-a-Boob, made by Janac (a Canadian company) designed by a BC survivor. It has a microfibre outside and light beads inside and squashes quite naturally and comes in different sizes. I think Google can help you find them.
  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited July 2012

    eulabt, I literally feel for you. I'm prohibited from running for now. In fact, I was grateful I had a day-pass for the subway today to get to physio (just two stops, or a 10-15 minute walk downhill). Had some intense therapy, some ultrasound voodoo, and left wrapped in three layers of kinesiotape and a metatarsal pad. Even with that, and in Mephisto sandals, it's still painful, so at home, I've also wrapped it in an ACE bandage with a squeezy stress ball under my foot. I have no idea how I did this, and why it's only on one foot, but it is no fun at all.

    I hope we're all on the road again soon. 

  • blackjack
    blackjack Member Posts: 1,010
    edited July 2012

    Good Morning Running Girls...... I need some help and advise. I am in training for the Chicago Marathon in Oct. I have been doing good with the training. Yesterday I ran /walked 14.5 miles in 2hr 45 min. I developed left groin pain the last 2 miles so I walked it back. Any suggestions for exercise or what I can do. I have bad osteoporosis and I am due to get a Zometa infusion in 2 weeks. Has anyone got an infusion and still run?? I am enjoying this training program and hope to finish in 6.5 hrs.

    Wish me luck.....

    Blackjack

  • LuvLuLu
    LuvLuLu Member Posts: 377
    edited July 2012

    Hello, running ladies . . .

    I'm new to posting so I don't know if the subject has come up before.  Has anyone out there had Tram Flap reconstruction?  I had mastectomy followed by immediate tram flap.  This was 2 weeks ago.  I am (was) a 30-mile/week runner.  The day before my surgery I ran 8 miles followed by 1 hr of weights at the gym.  Will I ever get back there?  I know, it's been so soon.  Patience, right?

    Right now I'm walking at a very comfortable pace about 4 miles a day, but broken up into 2-3 walks/day. The only discomfort I feel is the tightness in my stomach where the stitches are.  I'm also doing some very gentle yoga stretches - and I still have 2 drains which really gross me out!  But those will be gone this week.

    One note in the hospital - a young nurse really gave me a pick-me-up and I don't even think she realized it.  She came in to take my vitals (and I was MISERABLE in the hospital) and she was a little taken aback with my HR which was 55.  Then she says, "OH, that's RIGHT, you're a runner." I smiled to myself because she said, "You're a runner" not "You WERE a runner" because YES I AM A RUNNER!!

    I think I just want some encouragement / confirmation from anyone out there who has been through the same.  Will I get back to my former fitness?  Thanks!!!

  • willy5js5
    willy5js5 Member Posts: 140
    edited July 2012

    I just found this thread and what great recovery support. I am recovering from stage 1 diep and I miss my runs. Keep posting ladies and I can enjoy your progress until I get my turn.

  • dltnhm
    dltnhm Member Posts: 873
    edited July 2012

    willy5js5  - I have a umx and immediate DIEP reconstruction in January. My PS cleared me to run at week 5 but wouldn't let me wear a bra until week 6 ... LOL ... so I didn't run until week 6 ;-) Saw my PT that week regarding cording and lymphedema prevention and started chemotherapy ... It was quite a week. But I kept on running through all my chemo and I'm about to start rads next Monday and was encouraged by my RO to run through rads too!

    I'm not a fast runner but I can put in the miles.

    You'll be out there before you know it!

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited July 2012

    Me too, Anita. I was walking 4mph an hour at a time on the treadmill starting at 2 weeks post bilateral DIEP. Was very stooped over at first but it helped a lot with getting straightened back up. Had a half marathon already scheduled at 6 weeks (was supposed to be 7 weeks but surgery was postponed), and showed up there for the weekend and tried a 5K tune up and ran for the first time post-op just 36 hours before the Half. No ill effects after that and still felt great at the starting line so I ran probably the first 1.5 miles of the Half then began to alternate. Did not push it at all, just ran when I felt like it, and ended up at 3:07. Best personal worst ever!

  • willy5js5
    willy5js5 Member Posts: 140
    edited July 2012

    I run on the treadmill. My knees won't forgive on pavement yet. I started running to prepare for diep and fell for it. Hooked for certain. My PS won't approve the treadmill yet. Suggested walks at the mall but I am not a fan of the mall. I only have a couple more weeks to wait and hope my endurance has not dropped too much. Anxious though.

  • willy5js5
    willy5js5 Member Posts: 140
    edited July 2012

    Wow, 2 weeks post diep I struggled walking to my mail box. Did you find the walking to make your drains have more output goldlining? A half marathon at six weeks is fantastic. My doc says it is too soon yet. She worries about trauma to the flaps if I should fall on the treadmill. Soon though:)

  • dougieswife
    dougieswife Member Posts: 171
    edited July 2012

    HI...I am new here to this board.  I just started C25K within this last week.  Truth be told, I need to lose 60 pounds.  Before I was dx'd, I could walk a mile, but it was a struggle.  During treatment, I could barely walk even a quarter of a mile...chemo and me didn't get along well AT ALL.  After treatment, I started walking and was walking 2 miles.  Had to take a break after my exchange surgery and decided to start up with the C25K program.  I am amazed at how fast a mile goes...I'm still at a 20 minute mile, but I started at a 22 minute mile.  I have set a goal that I am going to run my own 5K on October 14th, my one year anniversary of being dx'd.  I have some friends who are runners and they are all going to run/walk with me.  

    Anyway...hopefully I can stay motivated and get running tips from all of you!!!!!  : ) 

  • willy5js5
    willy5js5 Member Posts: 140
    edited July 2012

    Hi dougieswife. I am new here too but welcome and running will shed pounds. I just started running in Feb this year but will share how I started. Start by adding a one minute jog to your walks a few times and go back to walking. It takes a bit of practice to get your breathing in check. Once you get that, increase running intervals. I was at a 11:30 pace for 4 miles before my diep reconstruction five weeks ago. I hope I am not too disappointed when I get back to it.

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited July 2012

    Anita, I did not ask for permission, so ... 

    One of the reasons I knew my surgeon was right for me is he was obviously a runner (albeit lapsed) and he got it. He thought I was crazy doing the Half because my time would suck, that's all.

    I had no drains when I started back at the gym. They were outputting nothing and they removed all but one before I left the hospital, and they only made me keep the last one for principle. They leave one ab drain for 48 hours or whatever the fluid quantity is. I had nothing draining and I made the homecare nurse take it after 2 days. She wanted to squeeze an extra day's billing out of it but after my previous mx, the homecare infected my incision and for me the less homecare the better.   

    I did fall on the treadmill. Total faceplant. Bleeding knees. However, I fell crossing the street on the way to the gym too. On two separate occasions. Right in the middle of four lanes of traffic, jaywalking in the snow. Messed up my knees and dislocated my shoulder but I was already in physio for everything else so that was quickly looked after. Also fell down the stairs at the mall. If you're going to fall, you're going to fall, I figure.

    The treadmill made walking easier than elsewhere because it has the arms to hold on to, and I really did support myself on those arms quite a lot, to try to straighten up, gently, as I walked. The mirror along the side wall helped to watch my straightening progress from week to week. I started with an hour and worked up to 90+ minutes at a time (thanks to SuperBowl playoffs on the treadmill TV) in the weeks leading up to the Half, but literally just tried running at the same belt speed for the last 30 seconds. It just didn't feel right. But when I got to Disneyland, and the 5K started, I felt like running. It was the pixie dust, I guess. That really reassured me that I would be able to go the distance on the Sunday. 

  • blackjack
    blackjack Member Posts: 1,010
    edited August 2012

    Good Morning Running Ladies....I wanted to share with you something I found that could be a life saver. When I run I don't always carry an ID with me. Something I really never thought about. My onc who is a runner told me about Road ID which gives medical personnel info about you. As I nurse who worked in the ER I always hated to take care of Jane Doe who came in with no ID / medical hx. Since having bc I really worry about not using my surgical arm for BP/IV's. I refuse to have my BP taken at the md's office on my affected arm. I am training for the Chicago Marathon and really thought about my medical hx when running outside.

    So I ordered this ID band from www.RoadID.com and put on there No IV/BP Left Arm Hx BC. I also added my allergies and med hx. I am so happy I ordered this, as for me I feel comfortable knowing that if something happen I would not become a another Jane Doe. I was so appreciative of my onc who suggested this to me that I wanted to share this with all of you. Some of you season runners may know about this but as I new runner with bc, I wanted to keep myself safe. 

    Happy and safe running to all of you.

    Blackjack.

  • kriskat
    kriskat Member Posts: 163
    edited August 2012

    Hi all-new to this thread and running. Until my dx in Jan 2011, I had never ran- but walked all the time. I decided a couple of months ago to give running a try and now I am addicted!!! I registered for my first 5k. It is 8/11. I am looking forward to it. This thread is very encouraging to a newbie like myself!!

  • tina_jason
    tina_jason Member Posts: 147
    edited August 2012

    Good like on your first 5K kriskat!  You're right, it is very addicting!  Let us know you you do!

  • pat01
    pat01 Member Posts: 1,005
    edited August 2012

    Hi ladies - newbie running question here.  I have been doing couch to 5k very slowly, taking about 3 weeks to progress through 1 week of the program.  This week I upped my running time again, but as the days progress through this section it seems to be getting harder and not easier.  I run on a treadmill, so I can get my HR after a running section, and yesterday it was up to 163.  I am 58 and that seems too high to me.  I am jogging slowly, and I am not overly winded, but was wondering if a high heart rate like this is normal or even unhealthy?

    Another question I have is breathing - I've seen you all talk about getting your breathing rhythm, but how does one do that?  Maybe I am overthinking it, but I do not seem to have any rhythm to my breathing during the jog sections.

    Thanks,

    Pat 

  • 301724
    301724 Member Posts: 478
    edited August 2012

    Hello Ladies,

    Just found this forum and feel glad to know you're out there. I'm a runner - several half marathons, one full - who is having BMX with DIEP in less than two weeks. Am wondering how soon I can get back to running and whether or not I'll have to start completely over.

    Thanks!

  • NatsFan
    NatsFan Member Posts: 3,745
    edited August 2012

    Welcome 301- Follow what your surgeon wants you to do. I know we all want to get out there and get back into life, but doing too much too soon can lead to setbacks, and possibly even permanent conditions like arm or truncal lymphedema. 

    Being in good shape and having strong legs will absolutely be to your benefit as your upper body will be compromised for several weeks.  You'll be relying on your legs and core more than usual for everyday activities like getting up from a chair.  You may want to do some extra core work in these couple of weeks leading up to surgery. 

    While your ps may not want you to do any running, you will not have to be completely inactive as walking is usually encouraged.   I was walking in the hospital halls a few days after my surgery, and walked daily for the 6 weeks I was off work.  At first I could barely manage to shuffle down to the next house and back and that took about 10 minutes to go maybe 100 feet, but by the end I was doing several miles daily.  So even if the doctor recommends no running for several weeks, you can still walk and that will maintain at least some of your conditioning.

    Pat - FWIW, I'm your age and have a high heart rate as well when exercising.  It comes back down when I'm done, so I've never thought to mention it to any doctor.  I did have some measurable heart damage from adriamycian, but my heart function is still within normal range so I was not placed on any restrictions nor am I monitored. I'm mostly just a 5K kind of gal - maybe it would not get as high if I were more of a half or full marathoner.  

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited August 2012

    Welcome new people!

    For 301724, post DIEP (one delayed, one immediate), I was walking on the treadmill by 2 weeks at 4mph for an hour, and was stooped over but it helped me to gradually straighten. I did that weekly, increased the duration, and was still stooped at 5 weeks, but went off for a half marathon at 6 weeks expecting to walk it. The Friday night tune up 5K, however, I was able to run the first 3K and walk-run the rest, so I did run some of the half and it was slow but fine. I did 5K on my 3rd day post op around the hospital floor, but it was very very slow, and just 10 laps (1K) between rests. It's ab exertion we have to curtail for 6 weeks. Walking is good. (Performance -wise, the 6-week post-op half was 3:07 and my PR is 2:43 so really, I am not fast to begin with, but I did not lose much.)

    Today was finally my appointment with the sports medicine doctor. She Xrayed my foot and did not find any big fracture or arthritis but thought it could be stress fracture or soft tissue like a bursa. (It's the bone/joint that hurts like hell, in exactly one spot. I believe it was my casual shoes being too soft under that joint, and the joints being too loose, leading to an overuse injury from just transportation walking. It's not a running injury.) So I have an air boot and no running, but recommendation to swim. I have to spend a week on a constrution site, standing up for 9 hour days with safety shoes on, week after next, so I really hope this improves enough, and the safety shoes are rigid enough, that I can pull that off. So - no running for me for a few weeks. Post your run reports for my vicarious enjoyment :-)

  • NatsFan
    NatsFan Member Posts: 3,745
    edited August 2012

    It seems that different PS have different restrictions - my PS was very clear that I was on both ab and "no jiggling" restrictions for 6 weeks after my DIEP and Stage II revisions - that meant no running, treadmill, ellipticalling, etc. that could cause my new "girls" to jiggle.  I was limited strictly to walking, but she encourged me to do as much of that as I wanted.  Since I'm thrilled with my outcome I'm glad I followed her advice and didn't do anything that might possibly impair the eventual cosmetic and medical outcome.  Gold - it sounds like your PS was a bit more easy-going with restrictions if you were allowed to treadmill and run so soon after your DIEP.  I guess each ps finds what works best for his or her patients, and makes recommendations accordingly.    

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited August 2012

    Just to clarify, I did not run until the 5k which was 6 weeks + 1 day post op.

    I walked 4mph on the treadmill. It was snowy December and it was safer than walking outdoors.

    I tried a "run" at the same pace for 30 seconds in the final treadmill session before the 5K (which would have been at 5 weeks + 3 days) but it did not feel great so I didn't do more.

    But lo and behold, at the magic 6 week mark, it felt right to run (slow though I was, it was faster than walking).

    Update on my air cast boot, the foot feels so much better just in the 9 hours or so that it's been immobilized. No pain unless I poke it. Hopefully this will do the trick! 

  • marie11
    marie11 Member Posts: 75
    edited August 2012

    It has been a while for me. Busy with work, kids, vacations and trying to train for a triathlon. Whoever said the only training plan you need is swim, bike, run, eat, sleep and repeat had it right.



    I think swimming has helped some with the chest tightness and with the shoulder pain. In fact today I had no pain at all until I lifted a case of water.



    Welcome to all the new runners/ walkers.

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