I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

vegetarian? do we have to be vegetarian - oh no!  And here I sit with my little bag of chicken wings for lunch.  Actually I was vegetarian for a few years, but got a little "odd" - or maybe it was odd-er.... anyway decided to re-join the eaters of animal flesh.  Can I stay even though I eat meat?  Please?????  I can still be a pinko commie whatever, I eat mostly vegetables - does that count????

Hi Everyone!

I love it that this thread is moving so fast.  You guys are lots of fun!

I'm going to meet up with the Chaplain/bartender next week.  Can't wait to see her again.  I'll post pics as soon as I can.

Welcome to Glenna, Yorkie, Alexandria and all the other new gals I've missed.

hugs,

Bren

How about pinko commie flexatarian (yes, it's a real word - for peole who sometimes eat vegetarian) gangstas?

Welcome yorkiemom.

Glenna: Glad you are feeling well today. Our bartender is merely away for a few days exploring vinyards where they grow grapes that can be enjoyed by chemo sisters regardless of where they are in the cycle.

I have no problem having a healthy debate about climate change....but I know it's never really about that at all. It's about economic ideology. If republicans and their backers benefitted from climate change, you can bet it would be taboo/unpatriotic/terroristic to even question it.

Same goes for the ACA - it has NOTHING to do with health policy and EVERYTHING to do with an economic ideology that favors the widening disparities between rich and poor and is happy to see them continue.

I am especially hesitant to engage in forays designed to close this thread. For our new members: we have had about three previous iterations of a politics/healthcare/everything else thread and they have been shut down when bullies used the "report this post" function against people expressing liberal views (but who hadn't broken BCO rules). Those were the days when a person could get away with reporting anyone with impunity and moderation was virtually non existent. The Big Deleters still exist, but luckily their power has waned considerably.

So if some of us come across as closed minded or not wanting to discuss certain topics in certain ways with certain people, it's because we have a history in which they underhandedly silenced us by reporting our posts for no good reason. Good people have been stalked, harassed and defamed, Perhaps they don't like that we silence then with the facts.  

Ergo, I am happy to have a discussion about science and health when the topic really IS science and health and not Rovian/Limbaugh talking points/efforts to get us removed from here.

Thanks, Athena.  I have a tendency to engage once (well, OK, sometimes more...), but when I finally see (sometimes I'm rather thick, but I usually get there eventually), that the thrust is not dialogue, then I disengage.  BTW, I don't see you as closed minded at all .    you is cool. 

Alexandria, I got what you meant with Gallileo, but I think it is less clear than that. I do not know the science well enough, but have talked to credible people who have half a clue, and what I can gather from it is that the case for carbon emissions being a major factor in the warming is at least questionable.



However, I do not get the hysterical denial that the warming is even happening, nor the insistence that even if it is, who cares sort of thing.

I tried to turn my dog into a vegetarian. Didn't work out too well.  But, she survived that little experiment and now is a healthy and spunky 14 y/o. 

I have to admit I go off the veggie wagon from tiime to time with a salmon steak or shrimp. But that's all, PROMISE!

Speaking of vegetarianism, did you know that a huge amount of the carbon emissions causing global warming comes from cows? 

My Aunt give her show dogs egg yolks daily for a shiny coat.

I've heard that (what YorkieMom said)- and in all honesty, I have a really hard time believing it.  Look at the HUGE herds of bison and caribou that used to roam the Americas - and equally large herds of other cud chewing, methane producing critters around the earth that have now dwindled to almost nothing.  I just don't think that the beef/cow herds come close to replacing the animals that have disappeared.  I'm willing to be convinced, but nothing I've seen or read has come close to doing that (for me) yet. 

Athena - you have to be a carnivore - you're a cat. 

I'm more of an omnivore.

Alexandria, yay, the kitties are adorable! Didn't know orthodox Jews can't eat shrimp (shellfish?). My husband, the very unreligious Jew, either didn't tell me or I forgot. Probably the latter.

Yorkie:  Yeah, shrimp, clams, oysters, lobsters - all ther good stuff -out.  Fish have to have fins and scales.  Don't ask me why. I think it's just so we can continue to feel oppressed. 

I love lions, Athena.  Once got to hold a lion cub - at King's Island outside Cincinnati.  Doing a newspaper story on their lion preserve (I think it's now shut down).